₦airaland Forum

spirul77:
he has an o level, He then studied at Ruskin College, Oxford in the United Kingdom where he majored in economics and industrial relations. He also attended the National Institute for Policy and Strategic Studies, Kuru.
Aside been secretary general of textile and garment workers of Nigeria, and also labour president he was also the representative of African workers at the international labour organisation, ILO.
His qualifications are not questionable bro.

Have you personally seen his certificate? Or is it not in this same Nigeria we have heard of many politicians lay claims to having some degree and yet, it was all lies?

In Nigeria, anything happens and the truth is politicians know each other better.

walex2:
He doesnt have a certificate but he was NLC president for 8 years. be deceiving yourself, he worked in Nigerian textile industry and rose to the position of factory manager without a certificate?

Well, you seem to think like someone who resides outside this country, Nigeria.

Here in Nigeria anything is possible.

techmo:




Isnt it absolute stupidity for a state with so much unemployment, zero power supply, and absolutely no infrastructure, to ware house 75 billion in a cormercial bank like diamond bank.. while bankers wont even borrow the money out to Anambra indegene but to the likes of Dangote and Rabiu of Biu groups

75billion would construct a gas pipeline from Imo gas flaring fields, build a 1000 Megawatt Thermal/gas turbine power station and give Anambra 24/7 electricity with enough to sell to other state while their industries drastically develop

a Bank Boss Start hailing you, then they don chop you mugus, alex otti is just thanking you customer dada who would save money rather than develop and make more money

I hope you also read the part that says Obi paid all debts incurred by his predecessors. Asides this, there were so many developmental projects carried out by him during his tenure. You need to read why he was given the Governor of the decade. In all these, he still thought it wise to save for the future. Is this not the problem of Nigeria? No savings for the future. Yet, we keep hearing of several billions released for developmental projects and nothing to show for it.

The question you should ask is that how come those states with no savings for the future but undergoing developmental projects with several millions or billions of Naira released have nothing to boast of developmentally?

Another question you should ask is why Governors keep repeating same project whenever one tenure expires and another takes over. Also, same at the Federal level.

One man thought it wise to save for the future after clearing debts from predecessors and embarking on several developmental project, yet, you still have something to complain when his mates who did otherwise have nothing to show for it.

We can never make progress in Nigeria if we keep criticising good things and not rendering meaningful suggestions.

The guy does comedy skit. I believe this is one of his skits.

Is the Governor trying to say that the people in that LGA were completely tested?

AhoadaRivers:
Many of them are rapists themselves.
Castration is well in order. It will make many think twice.

For ladies who rape men, sealing up their vaginas surgically is also apt punishment.

Who bears the cost of surgically sealing the Vagina? Also, through the same surgery it can be recovered.

I am in no way against punishment for Rapists but law on this should weight both sides of the gender.

Jail term is okay to make that person learn some lessons. As for murder after rape, there is a law that back up murder cases.

Oluromantic:
Either the father is reaping what he sowed or the boy will later reap what he's sowing now

If the father is reaping what he sowed, the boy also can't escape this in the nearest future. The boy had a choice not to repeat the occurrence.

Just saying

Gazzy88:
I know you're a fan of the current VP but tunde bakare would have make a great VP. He's a no-nonsense man just like tunde idiagbon back then. Read more tunde bakare before judging. Osinbajo is more of administrative than political, the real job of vp.

No nonsense that can't bridle his tongue. Always speaking to cause more division. A man who in the face of much oppression couldn't speak to power and be the voice of the masses but took sides with his political friend.

I am not judging as I know Pastor Tunde Bakare so well and have followed him for so long. Infact, it is Osinbajo I never knew till he became the V.P. Just so you know also, I am a Christian and believe in truth but when a man thinks he is fierce but take sides rather than speaking the usual truth then there is a problem.

May I suggest that you go read more on Osinbajo's 6 months reign as the acting President and you will understand that we have a better president in him.

Tunde Bakare will not do better than Osinbajo's current capacity as the V.P because the V.P is always silent in most administration and even worse in this administration as they want the president to be the face of everything.

mooremoney:
This man would have being a better vice president of Nigeria than that short Prof.

That man won't be a better Vice president but the worst we could ever have.

He will lead the country with just talks and wanting to criticise everything or respond to every criticism.

One question I keep asking people is this, during the 6 months when the Vice president was in charge, did the country not record great positive change?

Lyoncrescent:
Are you saying that CAC allowing all this people and water containers in the tomb of a dead man is biblical ? Praying at the tomb of babalola is biblical ? CAC is a great church and I know and recognise the great grace in the church but we need to correct wrong doings . We shouldn't say this is just a small wrong doing. We should condemn it . CAC members pray in churches and mountains which I have no problem with. But when Abiara dies or the late obadare, then another set will go to his tomb and be praying there ?

Stick to what works for you and if possible make findings.

Were they praying to the Apostle or praying to God while using this as a connection?

Do you know that part in the Bible where Jesus addressed the resurrection of the dead and said I am the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He is not the God of the dead but of the living (Matthew 22:31-32)? So, what do you think of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob going by what Jesus said?

Idolatry comes when you worship any other god except the Almighty God (quoting the Bible)

Please, provide me an audio of the scene where they were worshipping him and bowing to him.

Lyoncrescent:
Okay. God said...

Please sir can you confirm if it's biblical to pray with God of Prophet Hezekiah the current CAC general evangelist and God of Abiara in the same context you referred to God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob ? Can you confirm if it happens that church members pray with Olorun Hezekiah and Olorun Abiara ?

I am not criticizing. We are shedding light to better know and worship God in spirit and truth . The truth is key.

About the mko abiola stadium comparison to naming revivals at babalolas tomb, I reserve my comment . However, how many other churches in the whole world do you know that do the revivals and label it with the tomb of their founders ? For example, Baba Adeboye doing revival at the area of Pa Akindayomis tomb ? Any similar examples we can draw from?

Can you also answer this - Is it just at Babalola's tomb they hold prayers? If No, why are you just being selective in your argument?

Go and understand the history of CAC before you criticise.

Who created these people you just mentioned? Then tell me if God of..... is wrong?

Lyoncrescent:
You have made a lot of valid points which I agree.however please visit this link on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIERvnXdEIg

It is a video by the new General Evangelist of CAC who succeeded Abiara. His name is Prophet Hezekiah and on his YouTube page, he wrote it there clearly that Revival on babalolas tomb at Efon Alaye.whats the role of adding babalolas tomb to the caption if not idolatry from the General Evangelist ? You can also check prophet Sam olu alos page on YouTube and see him doing several revivals at babalolas tomb as he captioned it; does babalolas tomb have more power to answer prayers or is it a " marketing gimmick" ?. Prophet Alo is closely affiliated with Prophet Hezekiah the general evangelist of CAC. These are senior figures in CAC . Can you confirm if that's idolatry or not ?

In your words you said :Praying to him, holding crusades at his tomb and using his posters for protection are manifestations of the spirit of error.

These actions are done by some senior CAC leaders. I understand what you mean by covenant and your explanation is detailed. However, I have gone to churches and if for example the name of the pastor of that local CAC church is sofowora, you hear people praying first with olorun babalola then with olorun sofowora. Sofowora may not have the genuine calling or covenant that babalola had, however some just follow the precedence without having a deep spiritual understanding of what they are doing . There has also been cases of people praying with Olorun Hezekiah who is the current evangelist and Olorun Abiara the previous evangelist. The funny thing is the current and previous general Evangelist just let it fly and don't correct people praying with their names . So it's not as if I don't understand your explanation but it's been abused and peopl are getting lost. I'm a Christian and I believe Jesus is the only way not doing revivals at a dead man's tomb however great the grace of God was on the man when he was alive .

I learnt a lot from your explanation nevertheless. That's the point of engaging in such conversation; to learn . Thanks

So that I hold a Crusade at MKO Abiola Stadium does that mean I am praying to Abiola or I am exalting Abiola?

You need to go into the history of CAC to understand them better before you begin to criticise. There are several praying points for the CAC for personal prayers without any form of disturbance.

The two Prophets you mentioned have captioned several of their prayer programmes or crusade according to the area where it is held. Why did you just pin point one?

When God is to reveal Himself to the Israelites, He said I am the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. God used the people Israelites hold in high esteem to talk to them.

So, as long as prayers are directed to God and not any man then it has no form of idolatry in it except they worship man in place of God and call on man in place of God.

You will always hear of God of..... And not the name of the person while praying.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
Hmmm
I heard some of his exploits. Pls tell me more.

There is so much more about this man that I cannot type everything. I will advise that you search online.

To summarise it all, he was a big terror to the kingdom of darkness and all kinds of sicknesses and diseases were healed by God through him.

He was an unusual praying man.

gospelpen:
No one is against the use of private jets in the preaching of the Gospel. As long as it is for that purpose, it's OK.

However, you and I know it has become sort of a competition today.

Including the buildings. Bigger buildings are built everyday while the real church is in penury!

Hmmmm..... I understand this view of yours. May God intervene in His church

silvermania:
If he was here Corona won't be an issue cause God would have spoken to him clean and clear don't quote me o, iam not well

You are right on this.

He was used by God to the extent that hospitals in the community went out of business.

gospelpen:
Ayo Babalola is definitely one of the few names that will be forever remembered not for his private jets, big auditorium or mansion.

He will forever be remembered for affecting Nigerians positively with the Gospel and real miracles.

It was through his ministry that men like Bishop Feyi Daniels of iReign ministries were born.

He lived well and died well.

Do not go down any further, hit me up on Fiverr let's talk business privately https://www.fiverr.com/s2/41294c1d6b?

Let's be objective in all we type. Apostle Joseph Ayo Babalola is one of the greatest men of God if not the greatest used by God in his time but please, why bring in private jet, big auditorium and the likes to it?

Tell me if as at 1959 the spread of gospel was same as the 21st century? Please, be objective and praise God through him for a life well spent in the gospel business than trying to pass across this kind of comment.

Dangrace01:
@ your fourth paragraph everyone supports the suggestion what people are fighting is the motive behind the suggestion

The message should be louded above the motive. We should fight for our benefit than whoever made the statement.

This is just my view.

Shattuck:
this is something every Nigerian have been talking about on twitter all he is doing is echoing public sentiment, he could have told that to buhari personally,I assure you the main aim of this is to score cheap political point.the bvn thing is not an original idea of his most Nigerians have talked about it too

When it is done personally, we will still say he never said anything or will you know of any personal discussion he had with the president.

The man has spoken, let's just for once talk on the suggestions he gave rather than tackle the person.

Is it not okay having a voice speaking the mind of the masses for once? Why must we always attack the person rather than re-echo his suggestions till Government does something in this regards?

Let's think straight as a country and stop the attack style that makes no changes.

Mrshape:
They want to make him look as if he his the saviour, they all planed what they are doing.

If you want to be a saviour from your billions share it to Nigerian using BVN, the banjs won't object,
FG will also share too,
Who no like better thing

He came out to give a better idea which you probably haven't thought of but all you did is to find something against him and against the government.

If he doesn't talk again, you will crucify him.

I do not think we can make any tangible progress in this country if we keep handling issues with this mindset.

Fine, this man has his own issues but his suggestions or advice on this matter can't be ignored.

ignis:
Verily Verily I say unto you, thou have received your reward here on Nairaland. Forget about the heavenly reward.

Did you notice that he didn't include the pictures of those he shared these with? He only mentioned them.

The Bible verse you modified does not mean this literally. It centres on motive too. What if he was encouraging you to also do same?

Only God is the judge of motive which you have no idea about. So, leave it to God to decide.

I am not a supporter of this administration but anything done to get the ventilators is okay by me.

We are just not being honest in this country and we feel everything is an avenue to criticize the government.

Personally, if someone wants to give you something free of charge and you have the money to pay for it, will you ignore the offer simply because you have the money?

It's okay to criticise the government when they do something wrong but in this case, I am in full support of begging if that's the way we see this request

ejihand:
Anyone could rent a building and provide (camp) beds. The question is
1. Is this place equipped with ventilators, PEP, etc
2. What about medical personnels?
3. Availability of testing kits nko?


If these basic things are not in place, kindly shut down the damn building. Let everyone sit his/her ass down at home.

Big corporations like this, are the conduit pipes corrupt politicians used to siphon millions of dollars to foreign nation to acquire choiced properties.

Critical health infrastructure have been neglected over the years. They are looking for avenues to safe their face now. Let them continue to open new branches in every nook and cranny of the city without investing in critical medical equipment and supplies. We are in this together.

Uncle Coro doesn't differentiate between the rich and poor, leaders and followers, etc. Everyone is equal in the eyes Corona virus.

I do not understand why you had to comment this way. If you had read the post, you will clearly see that your questions were useless.

Were you trying to prove a point or trying to make known how lazy you are to read?

Anyway, please read the post and if possible modify your comment.

It is comment like yours that kept the country in the state she is today. Having back and forth experience

Oluwasaeon:
Endosperm, if I haven't forgotten my biology

Chairman, accept correction when it is right and move on.

No one is talking about Biology here but just plain English.

You can check this on the net if not clear.

YesNo:
okay... you have been noticed. please shift

Still same reasoning. It cannot help you.

YesNo:
and your reasoning is superior? or you are here to tell me where to direct my thoughts to. my thoughts took me to the church community and all the falsehood & pretence in it. i can't help you if you are so pained by that.

you are talking of childishness but you couldn't even MANAGE to write a paragraph without throwing insults. sad.

It wasn't an insult but stating what is obvious and just so we are clear on this matter, no one is claiming superiority in reasoning.

I have stated this earlier and will repeat again, it is reasoning like yours that has put this country in the mess she is today.

Your response only shows how pained you are and until you get this right, your reasoning will still be affected.

Please, try being objective in matters. It will help you a lot.

NextD18:
Audio Ghost workers!!

These corrupt elements are quick to manufacture fake news to justify and make their fake systematic dealings look reasonable and functioning.

They like deceiving us with figures that are not real. Making it seem as if we are in a working system.

Scam

YesNo:
The babes look drained

And the same woman might be a respected RICH woman in her church. her praise and worship would be the loudest. God is really patient

This type of reasoning is what put this country in the mess she is today.

Must everything be linked to church or are the rich who could afford to buy babies in the church alone? Why not discuss on subject matters than reasoning childishly.

codemaniacs:
humans come up with solutions things through trial and error.

God is not the source of it, God is not behind this.

So, humans appeared by magic or miracle on earth, right?

codemaniacs:
the same God that gave Bats the ability to give humans rabies and kill humans.
the same God that gave Snakes the ability to poison and kill humans.
the same God that gave Mosquitoes the ability to give malaria and kill humans.
the same God that gave that gave wild animals strength to devour and eat humans.

This same God gave humans brains, legs, hands e.t.c. to learn and figure things out by themselves.

God did not save "US' from ebola. Dr Stella Adadevoh and her crew are the ones that sacrificed themselves to save us.

God does not help animals, humans, plants e.t.c..

God watches how his creations use their abilities.
God does not get involve in earth.

Kindly stop this and reason a bit.

If God gave us the brains to reason and we as human come up with solutions, if we are to trace the solutions who do we say is the source of this?

Haven't you thought of how the brain comes up solutions even when faced with new challenges? Who do you think is behind of this?

God didn't leave us as he is still involved in His creation

ikorodureporta:
.they didn't consider the routes' travellers..or else they shl nt have banned Keke.
Abi Keke drivers too na terrorists??

Well, this doesn't make them selfish. It was done towards a safe Lagos.

ikorodureporta:
...d govt took a selfish decision. wetin concern Keke there??

A selfish decision? So, the government lives in all the areas with restrictions?

I don't understand this.

ikorodureporta:
you ppl shl go to hell with yr security threat!

Is it only okada business those class of people are doing in Lagos?? Why can't the govt go after every foreigners to get their relevant statistics??

or simply because the restrictions ain't affecting you

Just so you know, I am affected by this to as I go to work daily but I believe that the government is well informed than you are on this matter and it was taken in the best interest of the state