₦airaland Forum

johnmartus:
This governor need orientation you're a chief security of The state yet you don't know how to put stop to incessant attack from so call Fulani.that's why I use to call them opportunist.

Do you mean the Chief Security of the state who has no control or power over the security forces but the Federal Government?

The man is powerless according to the way we structure our government which is why he will always call on the Federal to intervene

JAZES:
Lol...so u go about asking MTN or other brands what is the message they are trying to pass across on a
billboard?
If what you are preaching is Christ and his church that he bought with his own precious blood, then it should be obvious to even a blind man. Please lest focus on the message Freeze is trying to pass across here cos he is on 100% right on this one.

Your point is clear but Freeze being 100% right on the statement made doesn't mean he is right in line with the advert.

For example, a keyword used 'learn' means what to you? What are they to learn? Is it about the Pastor, the church, or politics?

This is my point - Freeze should have asked to know more than criticizing.

nwaanambra1:
if after reading freeze's comment and you still went ahead and type this rubbish, then i can boldly say you have minus zero IQ hence the reason why you don't even know what IQ means.

Has Freeze become your God or standard in following God?

Sometimes, we shouldn't be quick to criticize but ask questions to know more. That the advert was done that way doesn't mean Jesus is missing. He should have asked the creator what He meant by the keywords used before jumping to conclusion. If after explanation, it has nothing about Christ or His word, then he is free to say whatever he likes.

Also, this advert didn't point to any individual as a replacement of Christ. So, the guy Freeze is just a noise maker.

Flexherbal:
We do not Glory in the death of another man.

But, of a truth, we need to start seeing the power of God in display in our churches, as Christ did in his time.

He said: "Greater works shall we do"

Please, don't quote the Bible wrongly to suite your selfish motive or intentions.

A man can die anywhere and death is not beyond any man. God's will prevails over any man's desire or wish.

Also, read about how the disciples died and tell me if they lacked the power hence, the reason they died terrible death.

HisSexcellency:
Osinbajo is a disgrace to professorship and pastors all over the world. Like King Saul, God is regretting right now why He allowed him become vice-president.


Where was professor pastor when
1. snake ate our money in Inec office
2. Maina found his way back to the civil service
3. Herdsmen became land grabbers and murdered.
innocent lives
4. Cabals took over the presidency.
5. Rats chased mr president from his legitimate office.

Or cat got his tongue

Get enlightened. The Vice president has little to do when the President is around. Ask yourself this very question, what was his performance while the President was away?

We can't blame him for the disappointment Buhari himself caused

dingbang:
Parents need to listen to their female kids

Not just female but all kids. Male kids go through same too.

JayCynic:
As in ehhh, This OP needs to be banned, I taught I would see better breast not knowin he has English Language impairment.

How about yours?

It is 'thought' not 'taught'

BruncleZuma:


"Get out of his front"...Aunty what part of UK were you living?

It's a reported speech of a typical policeman's response and has no link with where she lived in the UK

osinbanjoisaliar:
He will fall for it. Buhari does not need tinubu. He just wants to fulfil full righteousness. What will Tinubu bring to the table: A mere 500,000 votes.

A mere 500,000 votes can make Buhari go nowhere. A winner in presidential election is not based on just having a high figure from one part of the country but must cover majority of the country's region.

So, please get things right.

Here is the truth Freeze refused to say but was just being one sided in the whole thing.

Recall that Christ didn't come to abolish the Laws but to fulfill this. In this, brought many upgrade, from Passover we have the Lord's supper, killing of animal we call the blood of Christ for remission of sins, observing the Laws through our works to allowing the Holy Spirit to work in us to do God's will and so on.

Back to the main issue, Tithe isn't applicable in the era of grace but have been upgraded to giving. Now, we are to give to honour God and by the value we place on God not bounded by 10%. Hence, we can give 10, 20 and as much as we can according to the way we honour and value God. Remember, the book of 2 Corinthians 9:6-7 it points to the fact that the believers aren't forced to give but as a result of giving their lives to Christ and personal encounter with Him, they give as a response to this.

As taught, here are the types of giving as stated in the Bible:

1. Giving to the needy - Acts 24:7, Acts 6:2.
2. Giving to the Saints - Romans 12:13, Galatians 6:10.
3. Giving to the local church- 2 Cor. 11:8, 1 Thess. 2:5-9.
4. Giving to ministries reaching out to the world - PHIL. 4:6.
5.Giving to the teacher who has imparted your life in God by sharing all the good things you have- Galatians 6:6.

So, you can replace giving to your church for the needy. They are two different responsibilities giving to believers.

fablani:
is now that they just Wake up.
thanks to Daddy freeze for hitting hard on this group of tithe(hustlers) ,hence resetting their brain

Has Freeze now become a standard or a Bible to follow? I really don't understand how Freeze issue is brought to this.

Freeze himself has his own errors in interpretation just to sway the minds of other thereby giving half truth and not the truth itself. Man is fallible.

So, please, when we talk or address matters, let's do so according to just the Bible alone as that's the sole authority of believers.

Also note that I support no man of God above the Bible. The Bible alone remains my guide.

kolawoleibukun:
you get luck say I no near you. I for slap rotten worm comot for your face. na me you won tell about CAN? who be the new one? ode way no geh sense. old sheeple. day there make dem day finger your nyasch for new year

That you stoop to this level doesn't mean I should join you in this.

Do your research better and you will know better. We talk based on the knowledge we have.

CAN of years ago might have a bad image before many but the new leadership of CAN needs time to correct this. He is a man of proven integrity and a man of faith who can't and won't tarnish his image or whom he is representing just because of goodies of the office he occupies or corruption therein.

kolawoleibukun:
I do not blame any hausa man for these crimes. the problems stems from the people that we look up to. we have a president of CAN but these mofos just sit down for one place day chop money day fat up their accounts. see that ordinary muslim lawyer girl way dem denyreject, one big man for north spoke out.

dem kill redeem church member for Abuja, Adeboye day hide like snake. to come out and talk like a man. dem no fit. dem go day shout inside church say dem get big God and all day threaten poor masses with God will strike you but if e reach were them go talk, dem go draw body go back. they are not blind not to see all these. I mean our vice president is a pastor who campaigned in the church and he got voter for buhari. undermining say ear day pain buhari e no gotalk say e no day see wetin day happen. all those people congratulate wizkid they are now blind to this one.

dem day blame Freeze say e no day attack Imam dem, the problem no be the Imam, way all those people way day attack Freeze? way Adeboye pikin? way dem? Oyedepo dem no send wen a poor member dies or is punished. Are they not supposed to come out en masse and speak against this? they will hide like cowards. the men are evil. they know what they are doing. martin luther King was a preacher but he condemned the evil against the blacks. na prayer go stop this oppression? if them no want Christians they should say it openly make we share the country. which kind nonsense be this?

is it too much for adeboye to come out and fight against this nonsense? wetin CAN president day do? dem day be president for nothing? Oyakhilome dem just day hide no one fit talk. but see as them come with strong to criticize daddy Freeze which means say they are very well aware of every other things way day happen.

Atiku, na so you won take be president? you don congratulate wizkid, oya how far na? you won hide like say you no see this? devils. na the Imam day send dem to go kill Christians. them go day waka like say dem no day kill fly, but they have hidden agenda. their goal is to Islamize the whole world. it is in their quran. they are up to no good. they are not satisfied with themselves. just to kill and kill. which kind religion be that?

Tuface no fit talk? which kind coward we take do celebrities so? all these people are they insensitive to the problems in Nigeria? wetin hard for Omotola to condemn this and organise a protest against it? na so so pictures dem day send give us we go day comment? but if them sick dem go remember us? the same us way dem day kill dem shut up.

AY makun, una no fit talk? people are dying. some moomu day tell me say make i easy, say na step by step. if na your pikin dem rape last night you go easy? must you wait to be a direct victim before you condemn evil? open your mouth una no be coward. this is bad. small small the thing day near us. them day gain momentum.

cant you challenge your pastors to something. if no be protest way Nigerian protest for London Buhari for carry him rotten ear sit down for there day waste our money. we just sit down day judge for house but the men we call leaders day dine with these killers. dem go come stabnd before us day form righteous.

Ashimolowo how far? you blind? abi na Bobrisky we go come day call to use him platform send the message across? the thing day pain me oh. becos we look up to these people, we attend their shows. buy their movies. support them. Funke Akindele where una day? Don Jazzy una no be men? Tiwa how far na?

see as all American stars team up against their president. putting pressure on the man left and right. our deaf president just keep quiet ordinary Fulani herdsmen day slaughter people anyhow. aboki way suppose to day polish shoes begin rape people children. we don forget the millions way die oh. the thing be like say we don forget them. life goes on. but the life be like say e no day go anywhere oh
. the killing day rise everyday

Stop ranting nonsense all in the name of typing rubbish. That a past CAN president failed doesn't mean you should see the new one in that light.

Not everyone lives for his belly, there are very few ones who still stand on real faith and this new CAN president is one of them.

miraclejoy:
for your mind king James was the original bible.

Bro get a Hebrew bible if u are serious. Kjv uses old English that's no longer in use today.
There were other translations before kjv.

Hello Sister, kindly see the following translations for Matthew 1:25

New Living Translation
But he did not have sexual relations with her until her son was born. And Joseph named him Jesus.

English Standard Version
but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus.

Berean Study Bible
But he had no union with her until she gave birth to a Son. And he gave Him the name Jesus.


Berean Literal Bible
But he did not know her until she had brought forth a Son, and he called His name Jesus.

New American Standard Bible
but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.

King James Bible
And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
but did not know her intimately until she gave birth to a son. And he named Him Jesus.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And he did not know her sexually until she delivered her firstborn son, and she called his name Yeshua.


I have painstakingly shown you various versions of the Bible now just for you to know the truth. Please, note Aramaic Bible and also Holman Christian Standard Bible, they seem to give this in a plain language for easy comprehension.

Like I stated earlier, the focus is on Christ and not Mary as her virginity ended after Christ birth. Only Christ birth was unique in that it came through a virgin and without sexual intercourse.

I hope these versions helped.

MosesAlex:
You accuse me of lying, I was hoping you were sincere in the discussion but your accusation seems you have ulterior motive.

Did you not see in Gal 1:19 that James the brother of the Lord was an Apostle. Are the fathers of the two James Apostles not Alpheus and the other as Zebedee. Was any one mentioned as the son of Joseph. The Apostle James son of Alpheus is referred to the less, some versions use the younger to differentiate him from the second James, the son of Zebedee.

Brother, no version used James, the lesser. You added this yourself. I have checked Galatians 1:19 again.

We are to keep silent where the Bible never spoke.

As for ulterior motive, I have none except that the word of God prevails over human wisdom

miraclejoy:
even from kjv you use, i did not see where it said that Joseph had intercourse with her.

This is English and not written in a strange language. Kindly patiently read this and you will see that Mary's virginity ended after the birth of Christ

MosesAlex:
Consecrated here means for a singular purpose of bearing Jesus. The King of Kings. I wonder it is difficult for you to believe that the womb of Mary was consecrated biologically for her biological Son alone Jesus.

See the identity of the brothers of Jesus so that so may understand that these are sons of Alpheus.

The brothers of Jesus listed in Matthew 13: 55 are James and Joseph and Simon and Jude.

Gal 1.19 Identifies one of the apostles James (the less) as the brother of Jesus. (Note two of the twelve apostles bear James. One the son of Zebedee and the other son of Alpheus)

Luke 6:15: Says James father is Alpheus (not Joseph, ).
Luke 6:16: identifies the apostle Jude as the brother of James the less.
Mark 15: 40 Acknowledges that the mother of James the less is also the mother of Joseph. Hence James and Joseph are brothers. So with this we can see that James the less, Jude and Joseph listed as brothers of Jesus in Matthew 13:55 have been identified .
John 19:25 Identifies Mary of Cleopas(Alpheus) as the sister of Mary the mother of Jesus.( Note Cleopas is the Greek version of the Aramaic name Alpheus).

So we are left with just one of the brothers of Jesus to identify. That's your assignment

Brother, why are you lying just to suit your motive? Bible never mentioned James the less in Galatians 1:19. I have checked most Bible Translations and have not found less attached to it.

Why can't you just be silent where the Bible never spoke. Stop teaching people your view but allow the Bible speak.

The Bible clearly states, James, the Lord's brother.

Don't teach assumptions or human view.

Puzzypleazer:
Since she started fucking upandan after Jesus birth, why do people call her Virgin Mary

Let's not joke with things. The truth is that the Catholics out of trying to make the birth of Christ sacred and the person whom through Christ was born, they decided to twist the Bible to suit their motive.

They failed to agree with the fact that the major focus is that Christ didn't exist as a result of human sexual intercourse and the womb from which Christ was born is of a 'pure and undefiled' one. This is the best way I can explain the situation.

What is of importance is how Christ came to the world and not the vessel retaining virginity status throughout because of the birth.

miraclejoy:
that's your assumption , read other translation or better get a Hebrew bible.

Assumption? I have shown you the Bible from KJV which has the original text before modern day English took over for simplicity and in some areas original meaning was lost.

miraclejoy:
mat1:25 said 'But he had no sexual relations with her before she gave birth to her son son. Joseph named him Jesus'

The original text by KJV Matthew 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

So, this mean it ended after the birth

Investnow2017:
Oh i like your references and persuasion. Yet this is not to be taken that Mary never had other children. She continued to remain the wife of Joseph after the birth of Jesus. If the equation of Joseph is refutted of what essence was he in the entire picture?

Reading the gospel account leaves no room to draw conclusion that Mary continued to remain a virgin. Those said to be BROTHERS of Jesus were actually his half brothers, children of Mary by Joseph. Where the context suggests otherwise it would have been indicated.

For instance, Elizabeth was referred to as Mary's COUSIN, Luke 1.36. And the other gospel writers make clear that Jesus had sisters too.

As there were many Marys so there were many Josephs, Judahs, Simeon, etc. And to a large extent some of these are actually related in some way. If those referred to as BROTHERS of Jesus were cousins or nephews, this would have been captured.

Joseph might have died before Jesus, hence Jesus handed his mother over to John his disciple-friend closest to him. Why? Apparently because his own half brothers by Mary were not yet believers according to John 7:5. But after his death, they became believers that is why subsequent Bible writers like Paul while writing endeavoured to differentiate the direct brothers of Jesus as he did in his letters at Galatians 1:19 and 1st Corinthians 9:5.

The apostle Luke who identified Elizabeth at Luke 1:36 would have done the same while referring to Jesus' half brothers as BROTHERS at Acts 1:14.

Yes, Mary had other children after her virgin birth of Jesus, hence Jesus is rightly called Mary's FIRSTBORN son, Luke 2:6-7.

In all, however, it does not justify praying through Mary or in her name when there is a clear command and principle that prayers should be said to God THROUGH Jesus Christ, who himself says I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through me, John 14:6

Matthew 1:25 clearly tells us that the Virginity of Mary ended after the birth of Christ

Syncan:
The first bold: You can never show me where you got that assumption from scripture, so you are now the one speaking where the bible was silent.

Second bold: Which error are you talking about, I have shown you who the mother of those mentioned is, Scripture clearly pointed it out, so you won't be in this error, but you still fell into it.

Chronology of events:

1. The names were mentioned as brothers of Jesus (Note:not children of Mary), Mk.6:3 "Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

2. The mother of those brethren of Jesus is mentioned .......MK.15:40 "There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome".Mk15:40

3. The woman is identified properly... john19:25."Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene".

4. The earlier mentioned Jude confirms he is brother of James, who is also son of the other Mary in Jude 1:1 "Jude, servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James".

5. This James called brother of Jesus is also His apostle, James the less. Gal 1:19 "But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother"

Now from the above, counting from

5. We see that James the less is the apostle of Jesus and mentioned as his brother,
4, we see that this James has a brother who is Jude,
3, We see wife of cleopas identified
2, we see that James has another brother who is Joses, and their mother is "wife of cleopas" as seen in 3.
1, All three brothers are mentioned including Simon as brothers of Jesus, but we have already now identified them as Children of the other Mary, wife of cleopas.

This is scripture.

Assumptions again. The Bible stated what was clear for anyone to read.

Matthew 1:25 talked about future sexual intercourse after the birth of Christ. So, there was no assumption to the first bold texts. The virginity of Mary ended after the birth of Christ.

In all, the Bible remains the sole authority.

Syncan:
hahahaha, now you want scripture to mention the four, when scripture already mentioned them in an earlier verse, so each time scripture mentions them it should call the four right, You should tell that to Jude who was mentioned as one of them, but decided to say thus :Jude 1:1 Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James. Tell Jude to mention others too na. Note he called himself servant of Jesus, but brother of James. Same James whose brothers are also Simon and Joses, and whose mother is the wife of cleopas and not Joseph. MK.15:40, Jn19:25

Like I stated you've brought assumptions into this. The Bible didn't speak of the Pharisees referring to Mary's sister but directly mentioned those names as Jesus' brothers.

They are the ones given birth to after the birth of Christ.

When you quoted Jude 1:1, it doesn't validate any point as to no existence of Jude being Jesus' brother. Can I show you what Galatians 1:19 says - I saw none of the other apostles —only James, the Lord’s brother.

Tell me, if the Bible also made an error here.

We speak where the Bible speaks and be silent where it doesn't

Syncan:
Why not compare these scriptures:

1."Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him".(Mk6:3)

With this:

2."There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome".Mk15:40

And who is this Mary mother of James and Joses? St. John says:

"Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene". john19:25


They were not Mary's children. Scripture never said so.

There isn't any connection with the other Bible verses quoted. If the Bible were referring to Mary's Sister, then the 4 male children would have been mentioned and not just two. Besides, the James they referred to was James the younger.

This is my own position on this as we speak only where the Bible speaks and be silent where the Bible says nothing.

Aleis:
Mary has no child apart from Jesus, that is why she still refer as Virgin.
IN the Hebrew, there is no clear distinction BTW cousins, brother and sons. Those u see mentioned, are his cousins not brothers.

Mary had other children and after the birth of Christ. Christ birth was a virgin birth. Jesus had not just brothers but Sisters

See Matthew 13:55-56
“Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?
Aren’t all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?”

compatriot:
the world don spoil sha. if it were during our time my mum will deal with u for collecting money from a stranger

The world is still as it were. This is only the difference between those who are comfortable and those who are struggling to survive.

In their case, if they don't collect that money and their parents get to know of this, they could be flogged or severely punished.

Well, the daughter is also sick. Over flogging sick issues when matters religion should ward into and make Nigeria a better nation have been avoided.

Sick issues

The Muslims are the major cause of problems in this Nation, Nigeria.

It is always one thing or the other about them.

Nigeria will know peace if we stop the foolishness we create as a result of bringing in religion into everything.

This will become news for weeks or months based on religiosity and not using these religions in looking for way forward for the country.

favoritte:
So he even has a baby mama. He should be careful with the way he attacks pastors because the Bible says "touch not my anoited and do my prophet no harm"....

The Bible never talked about some people being the anointed of God while others are nothing. Everyone is anointed of God as long as you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

The source of this verse quoted started from the book of 1 Chronicles 16:17-22. Verse 22 talks about what you quoted but the preceding verses gave a better clarity as to who the anointed are, the Israelites. We all are the Israelites today and as such, we all are anointed.

deomelo:
This useless governor and his micky mouse projects sha.


This is what Lagosians are getting for N830 billion budget?


This is definitely the lousiest governor in the history of Lagos state.

That same useless Governor with Micky mouse project help solve the third mainland problem where people can be on the bridge for good 3hours without headway.

We keep criticizing than see the good in things done.

Ambode has done well and has helped ease traffic to an extent in some areas in Lagos. I salute his technical team.

python1:
Part of me tells me this is not true. First class, Physics with Electronic, 22, female, yet jobless. Na lie joor. Job scarce but e never reach like that. Not adding up.

What part of it seems to be a lie? Google her details or search for the best graduating student for 2014/2015 academic session of the school. Maybe this will help a bit.

nefertitiram:
A marriage based on lies can be annulled, it is not called a divorce but an annulment, based on the premise of "it never happened in the first place" because it was built on lies and deception. The catholic church also annuls such marriages. I know this because I married in a catholic church.
There are two ways to legally end a marriage - annulment and divorce. An annulment is a legal procedure which cancels a marriage between a man and a woman. Annulling a marriage is as though it is completely erased - legally, it declares that the marriage never technically existed and was never valid. So if a man or a woman lies about his or fertility or HIV or mental status, and the spouse finds out, the marriage is rendered invalid and can be dissolved almost instantly. Like it never happened.

As for divorce, this doesn't happen in the church, only in the law court. The church can encourage separation and sue for peace esp in issues of domestic violence but divorce cannot happen. And if you chose to separate from your partner, you must remain unmarried, until death do you part.


So Apostle Suleiman is correct in this case

This is a nice comment from you. Some people are just too hasty in commenting because of the person who said this and things known about him.

The marriage never existed in the first place. A case of a lady without vagina who never opened up on this till the man discovered on wedding night. This union never existed as it was done on deception.

Thanks for this good contribution of yours.