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[quote)Lmao when I was younger when my mom would make stew I would hide the head and feet and throw it out later at night. My mom would be looking for it and I'd just act like I don't know what the hell she was talking about [quote][/quote]Karmamod,
when you have children and ponmo and ese baban kano start to miss from the pot, at least you know its the return of KARMA

tpia,

1. The discussion is "Yoruba men eating cooked fish head".
2. In response, I pulled a Yoruba proverb on fish head.
3. Applied the proverb in context of why it is a noble cause to eat fish head.
4. You responded by saying my interpretation of the proverb was wrong.
5. You offered another explanation for the proverb _ the correct version!

How does your offer of the correct version answer to the topic? If it does not, how is somebody wrong that attempted to apply a proverbial saying on fish head to answer to the topic?

Again, I maintain that Africans are notorious for skipping vision in favor of academic righteousness and with your responses you are accurately substantiating my claim.

tpia,

why is the dimension of my explanation not applicable to address the proverb? You are making wrong assumptions.

tpia,

our fore fathers spoke with divine insight. If you collect all the African proverbs and filter out repetitions across cultures and publish it into a book, you will be looking at a work that will sound like the Bible. God forgive me for that blasphemy, but I said this for a reason. There are people that read the bible literally and then they end up with a lot of logical questions and if your answer is not logical, then they cant understand the message in it. Its the same thing here.

I will end this discussion by referencing Sisi's last proverb in post #24 _

So ki ni oro ol' ogbon - Loosely translated - the wise do not have to make a big production of their words.

as well as her complete response in #26 . Tpia, she said it all for me and i'm done with it.

tpia,

again, there goes the myth. Does the teaching of the saying apply in a cooked fish? Does the question of Youruba men eating fish head apply with the Yemoja story?

I will repeat, Homer is made to fit several roles, depending on the event. Legendary!!

You have exemplified by your response, my conclusion that we, Africans, become so focused in critiquing messages and abandon the formulation of ideology completely.

I don spit tire and I still no see whispa, Omo, wetin happen? Oya put action for ground make u knock dat one comot for list naw

Hahahahahaha, Omo, you make laff so tey I nearly lock jaw. eeyah, wado :-) I like as u tek french blow the cry nah, e get as e do me, u sabi ya game well well. Na God don catch u, u see how e be for bodi? U waka comot, jus disapea poooff, no luk back, lef me for hia for inside dark. E bad reach say i no fit siddon hia again, na so i dey knock enter quick quick leave comot. Evfrywhere i go na so i dey luk left, right say i fit see ya light, i come be like agbero wey lost something. Belle sweet me as i take eyeball u so my sista.

Sisi,

Nice one there!  I dont know the truth to it but your account is very convincing. Im going to come back to that in a follow up below but first, to the post.  

There is a Yoruba saying, "Ol' ogbon di ori eja mu, omugo di iru e mu".
Loose translation - the wise is preoccupied with the head, while the fool is grappling with the tail.

Eating fish head requires caution, patience, attention and reflex. At the tail end, none of these skills is needed.  So by repeatedly eating fish head, it is hoped that the subject will rapidly develop these skills for wisdom and bring it to bear in his personal life.  Situation sometimes turn ugly when eating fish head, a mis-routed piece of bone could remain lodged in the throat for days, causing great discomfort, though not deadly. With patience and reflex (not reflux), the problem can be quickly resolved. The outcome is a lesson learnt.  
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Sisi,

Have you read Homer?  For the sake of those who have not, let me bring out the value of your creativity and originality with that story above you call BS.  It may not be true, but nonetheless, it is no BS.  If you were a white person, somebody will take that story and send it to their historians for evaluation and if no fact is found, they will not throw it out, instead they will then turn around and classify it for archiving. The purpose being to promote a cultural heritage and the Greatness of a people.  Homer is a legend and one of his works included Iliad.  There is no truthfull account to the adventures of Iliad.  Homer himself is a collection of orally transmitted history _ which is pretty much the basis of African historical passages.  Depending on who the audience is the person Homer has been modified and embellished so many times to portray the Greeks as a Great society.  In Africa we orient our learning towards European philosophies but we haven't developed the vision much less mastered the strategies for formulating and pushing ethnic ideologies.  If we did, our African legends and poets should be included in academic studies in colleges across the globe, just as much as Shakespeare and Charles Dickens are mandatory literatures all over the universe.


Sisi, thanks for your ingenuity.


For those who might be interested in further reading, here is a link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer

Ogbeni Kola,

Eku 'kale o. Iyan biu n' ko, ati awon 'beji? Se won je se won mu?


Ara' birin Gold Finch,

Iwo la ri bayi? Se mesmerize ti tun lo se ekeebu, Seun ti le jade, abi?

Snazzy, Comment l'u de r ? Le temps long non voit. Faites-vous bien ?

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Hayproof yes your phone is capable of blackberry connect services. This means that it is not a blackberry but it can be loaded with OTA software and behave like a blackberry.

Thanks all.

You heard what Geniall said? Good point there for u.

Pink,
I am Yoruba, I grew up in Kano. I speak, read and write Hausa fluently. I said this to give you a hint of my familiarity with the custom. Your parents are immediate to you but you will also have aunts, uncles and other first-relatives that are equally worried. You want a happy marriage but you are already taking short cuts at the foundation. If he thinks your dad shares his values, then why are your folks still worried about him? Why is he not bonding with your dad whom he regards as a fellow Northerner.?

Pink,

Its human sentiments. There is a fear of the unknown. Its not your responsibility to ease their concerns. The man you are dating, if he is aware of their apprehension, should step forward and engage them more frequently. He need to show up more and visit with them, especially with your Dad. His familiarity and presence will make him more accesible for them to satisfy their curiosity about his value system and personality. The more they know about him the more reassured they will be to entrust you to his care. He need to win them to his side, this is not your duty. If he doesn't know how to do that or if he is feeling that as a Northerner he cannot bow down to a Yoruba man, then he is not a good material for you as a husband. If he sees your parents as a Yorubas, instead of in-laws, then he will see you as a Yoruba instead of a wife.

My people how una dey? Man don waka go come back nah say make I step foot for ground see how una manage. E get as market be o, money don dry for pocket, rich man sef dey halla no know where to turn double hin money. Nah wa wa for dis obodo. Se una go still dey? Make una no comot make i run go for yonder quick quick see how Chief dem dey. I hear hin don sack two of hin wives for sake hardship done land for him door post.

E be like omo still dey vex for man pikin. She don carry herself go dance disnambari for obodo khatmandhu. Na wa for dis urhobo pikin.

Well, thanks for bringing us the information. If a discussion were opened on the subject of slavery would you be interested in participating?

Are you Nigerian or African-American?

Hayproof, Go to post #4 and click on the link to take you to www.blackberry.com. Take a tour of the demos.

Mesmerize?

She's your secret admirer. You unlocked the gate when you said that. You need a mai-guard to check her access through the gate.