₦airaland Forum

deomelo:
1. It is not an allegation because the crooked and corrupt judge himself confessed and claimed ignorance and forgetfulness. Confession and allegation have different meanings.


2. Ganduje is a serving governor that the same constitution that you people talk about so much but know nothing about blessed him with immunity.

3. If found guilty, Ganduje should rot in jail, but read up about the Nigerian constitution and immunity before spewing ignorant jargon.


Do you think the suspended CJ should resign? Yes Or No?

1 Its a civil case and not a criminal case however the penalty for ommision is to admit and get a new form and update so why should he resign.

Ganduje has immunity so does the CJN,the high court in Kano stopped the investigation by the Kano HOA same way the appeal court has on the CCT.

The executive does not have a right to suspend the CJN its alien to the constitution.

He also can't appoint an acting CJN without recommendations from the NJC and the Senate

abes:
That's why I said it is unfortunate the constitution does not make the CJN a special appointee.

He is the number 1 judicial officer in Nigeria if that doesn't make him special I wonder what will and BTW not an appointee of the president.

Okrikacity:
Bro is the CJN your father? why defend him.

Abi d money he stole he go give u inside


The CJN shld be a scape goat to other govt officials

Bro is the CJN the father of the EU and the US embassy that both condemned this illegality.

Tyranny reigns supreme when good minds do NOTHING.

Any sane and right thinking person would do the same

Akolawole:
Admit and just update. I hear you.
We are in trouble. He is the CJN

Well that's what the law says and if u are not OK with it call for an amendment of the constitution.

Why the fuss about the 09 omission when he has duly declared in 2015 before he was CJN,doesn't make any sense.

bixton:
You need to go and read the constitution/ law as it applies to the activities of the CCT/CCB and how it affects judicial officers.
It's quite funny for a CJN to admit to a mistake or "negligence as you say" regarding his assets declaration. Can he also say same in some cases he must have given out rulings?

How do you know the penalty does not call for such?
When Justice Ayo Salami was suspended and recommended for compulsory retirement by the NJC, did his action(s) call for such as at then?

Like I said, if the CJN is not guilty there'll be no need for him to ask the court's to put an injunction in the first instance.......

Perhaps u are the one that needs to go back the educational institution u attended to get a refund if u still can't wrap your head around this.

Its quite funny when a minister of communication says he thinks been an honourable member of the state house equals to the mandatory one year youth service,however I never heard the echoes of resignation from your likes then but why now after Onnoghen duly declared in 2015 before he was CJN that should be enough,why need to time travel to 09 except for mischief.

I know there is no penalty because fortunately im an ignoramus like u.

In Justice Salami case he was suspended and recommended for compulsory retirement by the NJC and not the president,that's all we asking of,he should go the right have and petition the NJC and not some jankara purchase of an acting CJN,how hard can that be.

Like I said the CJN does not need to reply the CCT at all because its not within their jurisdiction to prosecute, its akin to a college head boy canning a corper for coming late to class.

DanXplore:
At the bolded. You are with no doubt naive in politics. Are the implementors of the ‘due process’ saints? Will they ensure a credible ‘due process’? We Nigerians must understand and accept the fact that unconventional and expedient tools must be employed to at least ameliorate the kind of corruption level Nigeria has degraded to. Vladmir Putin, one of the most powerful leader in the world said that to fight corruption in a corrupt system, you don’t follow due process, you follow the necessary process

Oh really but when the Ganduje videos came out u followed due process by allowing him enjoy his immunity but want to follow the necessary process now and won't allow the CJN enjoy his constitutional rights and immunity,how convenient?

5thElement:
You really are disgracing yourself online. Just look at your statements. You can't differentiate between a sitting judge and a high-priced private-practicing lawyer.

NL is overrun with children.

Oh really going by your narration a high priced practicing lawyer must definitely be richer than the current CJN who has also been a Supreme court judge in the Gambia,how convenient?

You want lawyers to be rich but judges adjudicating be miserly poor,is there any logic in your thinking index at all?

renewa29:
Yes, he declared such sums because he could prove where the money came from. He is an international lawyer, a professor and former AG of Lagos and he can justify how he made the money through his law firm, can the CJN who has been a judge justify his source of income?

Oh really but the CJN is a local charge and bail lawyer that doesn't have a law firm for private practice, so Onnoghen who has been a supreme court judge since 05 and probably been a judge before Osibanjo was ever a SAN can't justify his source of income?how convenient?

bojobulege:
This is a ridiculous statement. Osibanjo has never been a judge. He was a professor of Law and in addition has been a Senior Advocate of Nigeria, in private practice for many years. He has also worked for the United nations on a couple of capacities as an expert. His firm, in which he was a senior partner specialises in Commercial Law with international aspects to it. He was also the Attorney General of Lagos state. All of the above is easily found out. What I don't understand is how young people are not embarrassed to display their ignorance on social media. Or is it just deliberate misinformation on your part. As for his lordship and Osibanjo, the point is not how they got their money, those of us in the Legal profession know how each of them got what they have got. At least we know how Osibanjo got his. His lordship's source of funds is a tad more opaque but all will be revealed in time.

The point is for public officials to declare their assets so that we they can be open to scrutiny and are accountable. If the Chief Judicial officer of the Land cannot comply with that simple law, we have no hope.

So in your mind Onnoghen who has been a supreme court judge since 05 can't do any private practice, its only Osibanjo that can own a law firm in your mind,FYI Onnoghen is light years ahead of Osibanjo in all strata and he himself knows that.

Onnoghen declared duly declared his assets in 2015 before he became CJN,your grouse was that there was an ommision in 2009 which he admitted so don't make it look like he didn't comply with the law.

NOETHNICITY:
Thats not true bro

Onnoghen himself declared that in matters concerning asset declaration the CCT is the highest court. The CJN does not have immunity from asset declaration offence

The CCT is not the highest court in the land as regards to judicial officers as it is stated in the constitution, what part of that are u yet to understand?

halhassan1:
Nobody is actually questioning how much he has in his accounts and the government is not turning it into an exclusive criminal case However, it's a constitutional breach and an act of criminality to falsely declare an asset considering the sensitive an pivotal position Onnoghen occupied.CJN and the Chairman of NJC... it is absurd.

Its not false declaration its total ommision and last time I checked the penalty for omnmision is to admit and update which he has done so in reality there is no case whatsoever, even CCT laws do not penalize for ommision.

joedejoe:
Please people should critically and empirically study this matter. Somebody committed an offence which he admitted in writing. Instead of facing justice, he is using his position to either frustrate and/or secure justice for himself. Are you aware that he is the chairman of njc, should he preside over his own case? As if this is not enough he adjourned the njc session indefinitely. Where and when will the so much due process take place. The CCT arraigned him and he was asked not to make appearance. Court injunctions here and there barring the trial. What should be the next thing to do? To allow him preside over judiciary arm with this grave allegations which he is not ready absolve himself from?

Discipline of integrity demands that he should have stepped aside on his own even before being arraigned. Let's allow the course to flow from his suspension. If he cannot cover and protect judiciary nobody can do that.

If he commited an offence then the law should be followed to the letter to prosecute him,here is what the law states

The charge against the Chief Justice of Nigeria, Justice Walter Onnoghen ought not to have been instituted at the Code of Conduct of Tribunal in view of the case of Nganjiwa v FRN (2017) LPELR 43391 wherein the Court of Appeal held that a judicial officer who has not been investigated by the National Judicial Council and sanctioned for misconduct cannot be arraigned in any criminal court in Nigeria.

Which means the CCT does not have the jurisdiction to prosecute him until he is investigated and sanctioned by the NJC,the NJC is a body of Jurist and not a one man show,I'm sure he will have a vice or secretary who will be willing to take over if he is found wanting.

Adebayo Shiitu admitted to not going for the mandatory Youth service,how come u haven't used the same discipline of integrity to ask him to resign?

bkool7:
You'll also have to leave the office if you can't account for ur assets.

What do you think the CCT was set up for? Just to record public officials asset?

Are u this slow or something,the CCT has no business asking u to account for ur assets,that would be the job of the ICPC or EFCC,you clearly have no idea what separation of powers means nor the functions of the CCT self so no need going back an forth with an ignorant dolt.

Hafeexla:
When did judiciary start having immunity and wasn't it these same corrupt CJN that frustrate the prosecution of Ganduje, Bark away from here jor

Just in case excess garri has damaged most of your optical nerves here is what the law has to say

The charge against the Chief Justice of Nigeria, Justice Walter Onnoghen ought not to have been instituted at the Code of Conduct of Tribunal in view of the case of Nganjiwa v FRN (2017) LPELR 43391 wherein the Court of Appeal held that a judicial officer who has not been investigated by the National Judicial Council and sanctioned for misconduct cannot be arraigned in any criminal court in Nigeria.

In other words judicial officers also enjoy immunity from been prosecuted,I hope I have made myself elementary enough for simpletons like u.

bixton:
You will petition the NJC through who ?
Are you not aware that the CJN is the chairman/president of the NJC?

Are you also not aware that CJN indefinitely postponed a meeting that's supposed to be held by the NJC members because of the allegation against him?

Do you not know that this same CJN gave a ruling about the role of the CCT/CCT to the conduct of judicial officers and the allegation against him falls within?

If someone is not guilty of a crime why would such person want an injunction ?

The NJC is a body of jurist and not a one man show, if he is the chairman,I'm sure they will be a vice or secretary who will be more than glad to take his place if he is found wanting.

I'm aware the CJN postponed its meeting and the reason was because of the armed forces remembrance day which falls on the same date and the CJN also has to be present at the state house for the parade,besides how is postponement of their meeting supposed to be your business last time I checked they aren't answereable to anyone,if the senate of a university postpones its meeting for any reason whatsoever does it mean a SUG president can then suspend or rusticate a fellow student because they are taking too long for his liking?

Do u know the CCT gave an ex parts order out of the blues after the case had been adjourned till the 28th as at the last hearing.

What is Onnoghens crime=He failed to declare assets years ago

What is the penalty, If u admit to an ommision due to negligence u are given the opportunity to update your form and everyone goes home smiling.

How come he is been suspended when the penalty doesn't even call for such at all.

bkool7:
Don't you think the reason Ononghe forgot to remember to declare those assets was because he couldn't account for them?
That is also one of the charges against him.
So, what are you saying exactly?

Whatever u think is your imagination and not facts,here are the facts

He forgot to declare some of his assets years ago

What is the penalty?

If he admits he forgot he will be given the opportunity to update it and everyone goes home smiling.

If the law says 5 yes behind bars u don't take them to the electric chair because u don't like their face.

Here the penalty does not even include a suspension, just admit and update,I wonder how in Gods green earth they came up with the suspension plot in the first place.

Hafeexla:
Ganduje or no Ganduje ? that is how you pple do counter a bad behaviour with another behavioural attitude.

NEXT LEVEL ON THE MOVE !

This is your hypocrisy staring right at u in the face,its OK for a court to halt proceedings on the investigation of the ganduje videos because he enjoys immunity and at the same time don't want the CJN to enjoy his constitutional rights and immunity.

Hafeexla:
My Foot, do you mean lefledrum law that permit stealing !

Oh he forgot to declare his assets before he was CJN and has duly declared it in 2015 before he was appointed is stealing but Ganduje videos is technology,how convenient

oladele00:
Almost everyone on social media voiced former Finance Minister Kemi Adeosun into resigning. Some even asked that the President remove her to prove that he's truly fighting corruption. When the brilliant woman saw that she truly erred by submitting a fake NYSC Exemption certificate, she did the honourable thing. She tendered her resignation letter and left. She RESIGNED!
By that time, those of you ethnic jingoists didn't see Kemi as a Southerner. You screamed at her, cyber bullied her and even hurled abuses at her. Now it is the turn of the Chief Justice of Nigeria, Walter Onnoghen, who admitted himself that he 'forgot' to declare his domiciliary accounts which was loaded with £23,409, €49,971 and $391,401, including 55 houses undeclared, and by so doing, he breached the Code of Conduct as a Public officer and was suppose to have resigned straightaway if he had any modicum of honour, integrity and shame as the custodian of the Nigerian Law, but he didn't. Instead, he was doing everything to stall his trial at the Code of Conduct Tribunal. All those times, you didn't call for his resignation the same way you did with Kemi, you didn't bully him to resign the way you bullied Kemi, you were instead urging him to stay on, you were drumming support for him and some of you that were deceiving yourselves with your forming neutrality didn't say anything all this while too, you deliberately turned dumb. When it was first revealed a fortnight ago that the Chief Justice of Nigeria didn't declare his domiciliary accounts with dollars starched in it, all you were vituperating was that the President wanted to remove him because he's a southerner. You acted dumb on the offence he committed. Now that the CJN has been suspended, those of you fake neutralists are now crying foul. You're screaming that democracy is in danger. Can y'all see how nonsensically hypocritical you are? Your hypocrisy is legendary. Your hypocrisy stinks. You shouted and bullied Kemi Adeosun into resignation but aiding Onnoghen who can't explain how he got the foreign currencies starched in his domiciliary accounts which he didn't declare plus 55 houses. A whooping 55 houses.
Instead of the CJN to resign honourably and go clear himself, he was busy running from pillar to post buying injunctions to stop the case against him. Just a couple of days ago, another $630,000 and $800,000 was discovered in his separate domiciliary accounts again. Y'all pretended you didn't see the news, abi? Sensing that he could be suspended by the NJC, the CJN quickly suspend their meeting indefinitely. Why? So that he can stay on. You can imagine!
You asked Kemi to resign but Onnoghen who was selling justice for dollars and deliberately didn't declare those dollars in his domiciliary accounts including 55 houses should stay on, and he should be left alone.
Arrant nonsense.

PDP ARE SUPPORTER OF CORRUPTION

Unfortunately for u the CJN was not solely appointed by the President unlike Kemi case,she was hired and can be fired by the president whenever he deems fit however in Onnoghens case here is what the law says

The charge against the Chief Justice of Nigeria, Justice Walter Onnoghen ought not to have been instituted at the Code of Conduct of Tribunal in view of the case of Nganjiwa v FRN (2017) LPELR 43391 wherein the Court of Appeal held that a judicial officer who has not been investigated by the National Judicial Council and sanctioned for misconduct cannot be arraigned in any criminal court in Nigeria.

In other words the right way to go about it was to petition the NJC who will investigate and sanction him to resign if he is found guilty.

The CCT has no jurisdiction to sanction any judicial officer unless upon recommendations of the NJC

I hope I have made myself clear enough for simpletons like u

Hafeexla:
Mr OP, tune up your wailing to the highest possible volume nothing is going to change or happen.

We are on to the next level and the cjn is gone for good.

Your jankara CJN is only the figment of your imagination, Buhari action is null and void so in the eyes of the law nothings changed.

Peacemaker5128:
let him appeal the decision of CCT

The law is in black and white and here is what it says

The charge against the Chief Justice of Nigeria, Justice Walter Onnoghen ought not to have been instituted at the Code of Conduct of Tribunal in view of the case of Nganjiwa v FRN (2017) LPELR 43391 wherein the Court of Appeal held that a judicial officer who has not been investigated by the National Judicial Council and sanctioned for misconduct cannot be arraigned in any criminal court in Nigeria.

Unfortunately the CCT doesn't have the powers to sanction any judicial officer not to talk of the CJN just the same way a SUG president doesn't have the powers to suspend or rusticate a fellow student,I hope I have made myself clear enough for simpletons like u.

Peacemaker5128:
Go to court

Why does anyone need to go to court when the court does not recognize the new acting CJN anyway,if your SUG president serves u a suspension letter would u need to go to any court at all,The CJN suspension is only in the imagination of Buhari and your likes,it never happened.

Peacemaker5128:
Buhari acted on CCT decision
If former CJN feels cheated he can approach court of law to seek redress simple

Buhari action is akin to a college SUG president issuing a suspension letter to a fellow student because he was caught in the exam hall with expo,how laughable

otswag:
It saddens me that a huge number of Nigerians are applauding atiku for boycotting the presidential debate.

Apparently, we do not understand that a presidential debate is supposed to be like an argumentative form of a manifesto. One is supposed to try to convince the people that they truly identify the problems plaguing the nation and they know how to and are ready to do what it takes to fix it while pointing out the loopholes in the other contenders opinions about the same issues. In other words, the most important audience is the "people"watching and not other contenders. In other words, you are trying to convince the people that you are the right man for the job.

If you decide not to show up simply because your strongest opponent did not show up is not only rude but highly irresponsible and misguided.

I will not mention anything about uncle buubuu not showing up because nobody expected him to show up in the first place. Fowl yansh that has already opened has nothing to reveal anymore.

At this rate,whomever wins this race, we can only hope that things don't get worse than it already has because we are not ready to do what it takes for real positive change to happen. All we will achieve regarding this govt is either maintainance or recycling.

Apparently u do not understand that a presidential debate should include all the strong contenders,he knows the audience are the important once and he showed up and that's what matters, why is everyone saying they were not expecting the incumbent to show up I mean he is a public servant that must give account of what he has done so far,there is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for him not making it there.

You lots find it easy to say u were not expecting the president and at the same time come hard on Atiku for the boycott I think its insane and reeks of double standards.

In my opinion Atiku made a smart and patriotic decision not to attend and any reasonable person would have done the same.

I also do not support not allowing Sowore on the podium as well.

I wonder if Nigerians still have an ounce of national pride left in them the president made trivial the debate,called his fellow countrymen and presidential candidates political dwarfs and lastly bailed and want any honorable person to go for such a debate?

MrRitchie:
even you you don’t understand yourself that’s all I see here

Now that I have exposed your double standards and illogical thinking can u go lick your wounds in peace and quit stalking me u unsalvageable beast of no shame.

MrRitchie:
ode you’re still saying the same or is it that difficult to understand the deference.

Royal rumble if the belt holder doesn’t show up for fight that as been announced, the fight might not hold but he will surely be stripped off the title by the governing body

But in this case if he shows up or not no one will strip him off his title as a president unless you go to the poll to cast your vote for high doesn’t count! so understand the difference oponu

Ode u are still saying the same thing trying to defend the indefensible and also playing double standards.

In this case if Atiku doesn't show up at all either he also won't be disqualified, so why are u coming hard on Atiku for the debate boycott,if its good for the incumbent not to attended since he won't be disqualified then it should be fair enough for Atiku as well.

Student A leaves home for school,comes for assembly, signs his attendance and then sneaks out of school,student B leaves home for school and heads straight to a video gaming vendor,as a teacher who is the bigger culprit?

MrRitchie:
you’re the biggest fool I’ve ever seen, how would you compare such to a royal rumble! This is not a fight between two individuals it’s each person will sell themselves to Nigerians, if the other refuses to show up why don’t you use that opportunity to sell yourself to the entire Nigeria but you said you went but didn’t say anything because Bihari wasn’t there.

Instead of him to give another reason why he showed up late towards the end of the debate, he came on to say he (he didn’t debate because Buhari wasn’t there)) and fools like you and others are everywhere jubilating, awon ode jati jati.

Those who are wise are wise they’ll forget politics and say things the way they are.

Ode like you, if we look at your age now you’re not above 22, it’s better you know when someone is riding on your intelligence when you know clearly what he didn’t has decreased the number of people were willing to vote for him, why? Because those ones are wise unlike you.

You are the bigger fool because a WWE Royal rumble is between more than 2 contestants in the ring and could be as much as 10,if the defending champion who is the custodian of the belt refuses to show up with the belt then it would be a fight in futility for other contestants.

He gave his reason for the boycott was because the incumbent was not on ground and that was understandable enough while the excuse of the incumbent was a buy schedule,I'm not into partisan politics but I had known the date for the debate since last year so the excuse is a flimsy one cos Atiku perhaps had a busier schedule and was still on ground.

Ode like u Methuselah of nairaland why not add some zeros to ur age and go cash it out at the nearest bank,who is playing with your brain,the one who called other contestants political dwarfs or the one who actually came to take on the political giant but decided to boycott after the political giant chickened out.

There is a thin line between loyalty and servitude I think u have crossed that line unfortunately crossed that line with your brains along u low self esteem serf.

MrRitchie:
you get sense at all so?
Is Atiku debating because of Buhari?

Is like you apply for a job which is currently occupy by someone and they need interview you and the person currently occupying that position but because the person didn’t show up you decided not to go ahead with the interview too. Are you not supposed to have sense by now.

This guys are all there for there own interest and not that one Nigeria at large, the only person who has Nigeria at heart to some extent is BUHARI take it or leave it!

Your comparison holds no water,it can more be compared to a royal rumble WWE match where the defending champion who is the custodian of the belt refuses to show up at the ring, how do we get the belt for a new winner,a total boycott of the debate by all contestants would have been the ideal thing to do especially after been called political dwarfs,going on with the debate afterall smacks of low self esteem and Atiku has my respect for the boycott,shows he is a patriot,Its nothing but total disdain towards fellow contestants and countrymen, however the incumbent has been challenged again to choose a time,date and venue convenient and let's hope he will be honourable enough to honour the invite.

BluntBoy:
But Buhari attended in 2011 even while GEJ was absent.

Atiku has no excuse.

Since he was there, he should have debated.

Atiku has no excuse but Buhari who is the incumbent has an excuse right, how convenient,your double standards is out of this world.

However Atiku has challenged the incumbent to pick a date,time and venue convenient and I hope u he will be honourable enough to accept the challenge.

midolian:


Very dumb excuse. The debate ground is an avenue to market yourself. It doesn't matter if your beggest competitor is absent. Buhari must have not attended because he knows his good works are already marketing him...

...So Atiku only showed up at the debate venue without participating. He ran from the debate like..

Oh really and what's the wise excuse of the other absentee,he went to Campaign as if he hasn't been informed of the debate way before hand,Atiku was at the venue and he has also challenged the incumbent to choose any date and venue they deem fit if they still want a debate so the choose is yours

duwdu:
Hear Mr. Abubakar: "I regret that I will not be able to go on with this debate due to President Buhari's absence."

In other words, the other debaters already on ground are not worth your salt? That, combined, they're not up to the President in effect?

Is that not what Prof Sagay was saying exactly, and for which some people called for his head?

In any case, who told Mr. Atiku Abubakar that he is worth more than the combination of the other debaters already on the podium for the debate?

Arrogance will always show, no matter the pretense of the arrogant person.

But hey, what do I know?

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Nope its not I think he did the honourable thing by bee patriotic its a slap on the face of fellow countrymen if n this dire situation we are the incumbent wont show up for a debate,at least he honoured the invitation and was on ground and that's all that matters.