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wldy feel like slapping someone

people like goodass look chinese

correct.




female.

lol

ibkaye:
I didn't think

meaning?

b- 576

naija chinko.

looks pretty and cool.

his rubbish is similar to the same the mohammedans all over the world repeat.

They ignore the oppression they cause in their backyard and then try to force allah on their peaceful neighbours. . .what a piece of trash.

Abuzola:
@noetic-
u see where you are defeated ?
Muhammad was an illiterate, unable to read nor write but look at what he came with Superior and unique.
Hmm Allah is great.


@osisi, yeah u like it, like it and embrace the truth

whats the meaning of all this RUBBISH u keep coming up with? why cant u interpret that verse from allah's DISCREDITED koran?

squad1:
@ Noetic2

What im trying to say (for the last time) is that AGE was not really the main issue in those days when it comes to marriage. so calling the Holy prophet a pedophile (which is the ONLY reason im n this thread is blasphemy)

And since you said ur a good "researcher" i will be glad if u can tell me how old was rebecca when she got married and ow old was mary when she got married or will u call Isaac and Joseph "phedophiles'? It's rude for you to just say im lying (when ur not ready to answer my question), so try proving yourself (if truly im lying) by just answering my question OTHERWISE u don't have the right to call the holy prophet names.

If u don't answer the said questions (which i know u won't answer) better just close the thread and start thinking of another controversial topic.

So, answer, we continue our argument, dont answer the question and I MAY not reply to your baseless claims again cos i will believe ur out of point(s)

whats the meaning of all this u have written here?

what EXACTLY is the definition of a paedophile? does mohammed not fit this description?

u FALSELY claimed that rebecca was 3 years old when she married isaac, but u ignored the fact that she fed the donkeys and camels of abraham's servant with water. so i asked u, how can a 3 year old feed a donkey? how can a 3 year old draw water from a well?

whats all this RUBBISH u are talking about?

toneyb:
According to your creation myth the bible god FINISHED creating the universe on the 6th day and rested. Science has shown that new stars are still constantly being created in the universe.

I have repeatedly told u that this no point.

That the bible is silent on the re-generation of the stars does not rule out the work of God. God rested on the seventh day after creating all animals and plants. didnt these animals reproduce? didnt new plants come forth from the ground?

God made the stars, their continuous re-creation is still the work of God, just like human reproduction.

According to your creation myth the biblegod created the moon as a light producing thing just like the sun but science has shown that the moon is not light, it only reflects light from the sun as we view it here on earth just as the earth does when viewed from the moon. if the biblegod  made the moon to "rule the night" as the bible puts it, why does it spend half of its time moving through the daytime sky. There are other parts of the bible that talks about the "moon failing to give off its light". The moon can not fail to give off its light because It does not produce any light As science has shown.

The sun gives the moon its light, as such the moon reflects the light it obtains from the sun, the moon is therefore a source of LIGHT.

Do u know the source of the light the sun gives? if eventually science finds out that the sun does not generate its own light but obtains it from somewhere else, does that stop the sun from being a medium of light? The moon just like the sun is the vessel through which we obtain light.

It is irrelevant how long the moon travels. The most important thing is that it is the source of the light we use at night.

2 facts u have failed to refute is that,

1. The sun and the moon are mediums by which we obtain light.
2. The sun rules by the day and the moon rules by night just like God decreed.

According to the creation myth god spends the second day creating this strange thing called the firmament which sperates the waters above from the waters below. This strange structure, which the biblegod calls heaven, is intended to separate the higher waters from the lower waters.  In the bible, the firmament is a solid, dome-shaped structure in which the stars were placed. It separated the waters below from the waters above. Windows in the firmament were opened whenever it rained. Any body with that has a little knowledge of astronomy knows that this is all BULL.

once again, u have made no point.
what other explanation do u have for rain?

Plants are made on the third day before there was a sun to drive their photosynthetic processes. The creation myth even says that the earth was created before the sun. . Any body that knows how our solar system functions KNOWS that the earth can not be created before the sun because the sun's electromagnetic force is what keeps our earth and other planets in our solar system in orbit. The creation myth does not even talk about the other planets because the goat herder that wrote it did not even know that there are other planets in our solar system.

I must confess that u have a limited knowledge of the bible. This is forgiveable because u are an atheist.

Here is what the bible says in Genesis 2:
This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.
      When the LORD God made the earth and the heavens- 5 and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth [] and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth [c] and there was no man to work the ground, 6 but streams [d] came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground-

Genesis 1 is God's view of creation. He dwells in the spirit and has made all things perfect in 7 days. Genesis 2 is man's view of creation.
From the verses above we can both see that plants did not grow until photosynthesis took place.

What about amimals? All animals were originally herbivores. Tapeworms, vampire bats, mosquitoes, lions, tigers, snakes, canivoures birds etc all were strict vegetarians, as they were created by the biblegod.

This is a mere assumption, which u have failed to substantiate.
The animals did feed according to their natural instincts, however the bible did not lay emphasis on their feeding mode. There is also no reason to believe otherwise.

This same story tells us it took the biblegod one day to create the billions and billions of galaxies, and more multiplied billions of suns in each galaxy. Yet, it took the same biblegod one whole day just to make our sun and moon. The writer of this creation myth thought that the stars were tiny objects that were just hanging in the sky that is why in other bible passages we have about god commanding the stars to fight along side his chosen men in battles against other people that worship other gods. The same goat herders thought that the stars are such tiny objects that hanged in the sky that was why they wrote that the stars will fall down from the sky on the day jesus will return to the earth.  .

Again u are wrong. As far as God was concerned, the stars have been made, just like animals, plants and man.
You are yet to refute the fact that God indeed created billions of stars in one day.

They even have vissions of a goats horn reaching high up into the skies and pushing the stars in to the earth and stepping on the stars in the book of daniel. This goes to show you the thought process of the bible writers. Any body with an idea of what the stars really are will not have such "vissions". .

How does this relate to the creation story?

[b]I don't know how the universe came about [/b]but the creation myth has been debunked by science.

Thank u for ur honesty. Nothing stops u from believing the bible.

The creation myth has not been refuted by science. Not only has there been no scientific refutation, there has also been no alternative.

There is only one world, one universe that we live in, and what can be shown to be true by science, MUST ALSO, BE TRUE FOR RELIGION. Present day believers in the bible try to defend the bible by telling us, "The Bible is not a book of science." So the creation story is an allegory which is not supposed to be taken as a literal tale. . They have forgotten that the church and christians have killed so many people in the middle ages who questioned the creation myth back in the days.

Science has not established how the universe came into existence. Until then, I will stick to my bible.

Abuzola:
@noetic,

The Quran challenge u to produce a surah and call upon your idol or trinity to guide it. U can start it now, good initiative to measure the quality of Quran, eventually you will surrender to Allah for sure if u see reality

why should I produce a surah when the koran itself is a plagiarised LIE from allah through mohammed to muslims. If not, whats the meaning of this verse:
koran 19:33-34 records Jesus as saying:
Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive!

@ OP

This is one annoying, nincompoopish and ridiculous post in a long time.

lmao

littleb:
Why should I agree? You asked question that its answer is right there with you.

what are the characteristics of a tyrant?

Just answer yes or no.

Not in this world, nor in the world to come, over my dead, rotten and decayed body will I become a muslim.

RichyBlacK:
I'm yet to see any evidence to disprove my claim that Nigeria has the worst government in the universe.

Fashola should run for the presidency someday. He has a vision.

how do u know he has a vision for the whole country?

running a nation is a different ball game compared to running a state.

mazaje:
Kai kiyale wannan mahaukachin.

I thought English is the official language on NL?

toneyb:
I am just trying to illustrate that I don't have to know what or how the universe came in to being to know that the creation myth in the bible is FALSE.

toneyb, but u honestly have not either produced an alternative or explain how exactly the bible account is false.

olabowale:
@Backslider:
Who was with Moses for the same exact reason you quoted above? Now, since I know that you care less about Moses, anyway, and all your hope was on Jesus of the Bible, I ask you the same question as above that you asked about Muhammad (AS)?

Folks, watch how he is going to trip over himself. Then am gonna cream him! I hope he remembers about the Satan (bad jinn/Devil) whispering in the ear of Jesus, at least three times. Watch this dude or anyone, who have the gull to attempt this booby trap!

1. we saw the works of moses and they correlate with the GOD who sent him.

2. why did u not answer backslider's question? who was with mohammed? and how come he kept getting different versions of surah from the same allah?

@ OP

nice one.

olabowale:
@$Osisi:
I asked you to give us your professional description of the person who is a possible pedophile. Or give us the characteristics of a pedophile. You ave not done so. Yet i know you know its not in the character of Muhammad (AS)!

I ask you now that you throw incest into the mix, if Aam and Eve were incestious? Or their children who married from the pool of their brothers and sisters? Or their own children who defnitely married from the cousin pool?

I now asked if the Royal families of Europe are incestious since they are still marrying cousins, even now? How about Abraham and his half sister Sarah? How about somewhere in the blodlines of Isaac grandchildren? I gave you assortment of people and time to choose from, sandwiching the time of Muhammad (AS) between these periods?


Can you blame Muhammad and not blame at least one of the two periods; before or after his time? Are you an african woman more christian than the people of Europe who brought Christianity to ou? I hope you will say yes, because I am going to use it against you on the matter of God consciousness of the Muslims versus the Christians (Quran aversus Bible). You see, I want to set you up and trap you with your own words. lol.


What about the wager? Are you gonna take me up on it?

what is this RUBBISH u keep coming up with? why is difficult for u to accept the truth?

evidences have been produced from 4 different haddiths that mohammed had sexual intercourse with a 9 year old girl, thus denying her a childhood. what else do u want?

why are u trying to justify the anomalies of mohammed?

toneyb:
What is this FOOL saying? I might not know what 278922819722215*872827125651819 is but I know it is not 5.

This (answer is not 5) shows that u have the knowledge of mathematics. use that same knowledge of mathematics to find the right answer.

you have not said anything new.

olabowale:
sleek29 calls every female girl. Mr. Ciility or civilization.

What is civilazation? Please define it and you will find the imprint of Islam. Europe did not take shower, until islam taught them. They did not know how to use cutleries, either until Islam educated them.


You sleek29, I am certain dont know how to wipe yourself clean. And your cloth; undergarments and pants can't be devoid of urine! You stand and you shake and you are unmindful of the remaining droplets that socked your pants. lol.

How civilized can you be, man.

have u ever beaten any of ur wives before? lying is not allowed.

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=291146.msg4120074#msg4120074 date=1246473114]He/she/it is a creation of the imagination of men who completely overwhelmed by the complexity of our world decided to create this concept to mask their ignorance. . . . and ofcourse they added some extras to make he/she/it fit with their selfish desires.[/quote]any evidence to back this up.

If u have no evidence, whats the knowledge/convictions from which u formed this opinion?

fellis:
@noetic,
proove that all of it is propaganda.start a new thread.

Typical RUBBISH.

whats there to prove?

javalove:
@JJYOU

hmmm . . . i know pple like u. U r ignorant of alot of things . . . OSAMA DIDNT BRING DOWN WTC!!!!!! as there are no proofs that he did . .

but there are proofs that the west killed more than 2 million innocents in Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan . . . There are facts everywhere . . . the world sees nothing wrong in that. . . .

Gaza has not known peace since the sons and daughters of pigs started there wahala and yet, its the muslims point fingers at . . .

Well na una sabi . . . people are finding the truth everyday of the year . . . dey dere dey hate. . . suegbe

this that u have displayed is called raw IGNORANCE.

is the west the same as christianity? u live in an isolated delusive enclave, where IGNORANCE rules.

I f osama did not bring down WTC, we have seen what mohammedans are capable of doing all over the world.

where is ogaga4luv? where has he carried his tail to?

squad1:
@Noetic2

Answering the question is not evasive, i just wanted to "remind" you that geting "married' in those days was very early for ladies, so if u wont answer the question, she married joseph (at 90) when she was 12, and HE is not a prophet but at least he was called "st. joseph" and a contributor to the holy bible so what are u saying? So i cant credit u here for ur self claimed EXTENSIVE ANALYSIS.

I cant make a meaning out of this.

Isaac was 40 years old when he married Rebecca making Rebecca 3 years old at the time of her marriage. (Better still, u may find out and tell me how old was isaac when he married rebecca) some also said he was 29 and rebecca was 14.

where did u get this from? rebecca 3 years old? can a 3 year old feed donkeys and horses? can a three year old fetch water from the stream?
lying is not allowed.

all u have done here is to EVADE the essential purpose of our correspondence.

I dont really like posting on nairaland but ur just giving me the urge to do, Bros, ur Extensive Analysis is not enough, do more (mine is not enough too though).

Age in those days was just a number,

what EXACTLY are u trying to say?

littleb:
I think you mention some, complete them then I will respond.

Thats my list. Do u agree?

It could be stupid as unbeliever. Will you be a muslim if I tell you?

is that how u convert people to worship allah?

@ osisi

why are u surprised? abuzuola claimed to speak for all NL muslims. so it is safe to state that ALL muslims are potential TERRORISTS. simple.