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littleb:
Countinue. People would like read more!

Do u agree to the list of characteristics?

Answer my question. I see you as a lost man. You need help. Will you be a muslim?

is this not plain STUPID? is this how u convert people to islam? by showing them a koran verse? this is RIDICULOUS.

produce the verse that says mohammed will go to paradise, if at all it exists.

muhsin:
Oh. . .C'mon fellis, didn't you see he, though in a bit way, submit himself? He himself knew he had been on a wrong track. Life.

May the Lord of the universe guide us, amin.

what are u talking about?

michelin89:
I can't adore anyone else but me!

that was simple and honest.

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=290574.msg4119011#msg4119011 date=1246461278]So do christians. Always looking to science to validate their false claims.[/quote]u know this is false. we only use science to reveal ur ignorance when u hide behind it (science)

michelin89:
Not all atheists are experts in science. I am not. My atheism is more a self worship, rather than faith in science. We have different ramifications you know.

ok. so can I ask. why are u an atheist? I expect explicit reasons.

davidylan:
I read mazaje's response with my jaws well on the floor . . . i cant believe we still have brainless idiots in the 21st century.

Thou fool read the following points pls in response to the complete idiocy you posted above:

1. Lung disease is truly a leading cause of death among babies less than 1 yr old . . . that is because with increasing technology a lot more babies are now born PREMATURE (at least 10 weeks before the normal delivery date)! Human lungs do not fully develop until 2 yrs AFTER birth and the cells responsible for producing surfactant (keeps the air sacs open and prevents atelectasis) are not fully formed in premature babies hence they are at greater risk of developing bronchopulmonary displasia. It has NOTHING to do with smoking you fool.

2. lol i laughed so much at the portion you wrote which i highlighted . . . instead of wasting my precious time on this uneducated buffon i chose to copy/paste this portion from wikipedia - [size=14pt]The primary risk factor for COPD is chronic tobacco smoking. In the United States, 80 to 90% of cases of COPD are due to smoking.[/size]

My dear . . . try studying first before rushing to grab a computer. You expose your own illiteracy.

3. The grand designer indeed designed our lungs to be very efficient at gas exchange . . . infact 95% of the cells that line the alveolar wall are Type I epithelial cells which are specifically designed for gas exchange. The rest of the airspace is lined with larger type II cells that keep the alveolar wall lubricated and prevents them from collapsing after expiration . . . if you destroy your type I cells from smoking . . . how is that the designers fault?

uhmn. . .well stated.

where will muslims go to?

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=290950.msg4118980#msg4118980 date=1246460959]I gained something valuable. . . .
Read it and grab yours.[/quote]whats that valuable thing u gained?

michelin89:
Atheist and christians should stop discussing about science. Leave that for scientists!

but atheists are known to hide their IGNORANCE behind science.

Abuzola:
Poor attempt, first osisi answered question with question to question she couldn't answer and later answered the question with her own knowledge, nowhere in the bible support her words but just illusion of her own. If you know you are truthful you should be able to give answer with your holy book just like i do and not your own words, the samething apply to tonyeb. What you quote never exist in the bible

Osisi claim jesus crying on the cross and asking help is talking to himself while the other poster claim asked God for help and he came to his help. Obvious contradiction. This shows jesus wasn't God and if he is then examine what he said referring to himself 'MYSELF MYYSELF, WHY DID MYSELF FORSAKE ME' Does it make any sense ? Come to islam and see sense and understanding

I cant pick a meaning out of this. What were TRYING to say?

squad1:
Haba!!!! Bitter ke? I was just a bit , (sorry if ur offended though) but at least, try to answer my question How old was mary when she gave birth to jesus and ow old was the 2 of them (Mary and joseph) when they got married.

I honestly did not answer this cos in my opinion it is evasive. joseph, mary and christianity are not the subjects of this thread.

did joseph have sexual intercourse with mary as a 9 or 12 year old? is joseph a prophet?

About Aisha, just google it (Aisha and Jober Ibn Al-Moteam Ibn Oday ), stion,

I understand the point u are trying to make. But I would appreciate it, if u can back it up with either the koran or the haddith.

But on the long run (Try as much as possible to be 100% SURE of something before u jump into conclusion)

this is funny.

The reason why I get pissed at half-baked responses from mohammedans is because, I normally take the pain to make an analysis before reaching a conclusion. You can sincerely go though the threads I started, they all have one thing in common. . . . EXTENSIVE ANALYSIS.

try and do the same, whenever u want to come up with assertions.

what did u gain from reading it?

squad1:
@Noetic2
Truly Truly (I am sorry to say) you are pretty dumb, i gave u a link to a catholic encyclopaedia are u are talking of Allah's bible,
ok, ow old was mary and joseph when they got married? (Answer the question if u think u are smart)

U already have a wrong mind set about islam, so if ur not ready to dialogue just shut up and get a life.

As a muslim, I would never call Joseph a Child Molester, nor would I refer to the "Holy Ghost" of the Bible, that "Impregnated" Mary as a "Rapist" or "Adulterer".

did u make ANY sense? why are u so bitter?

why is this worth reading?

with due respect, I did not intend to invade ur privacy. My intention was simply to ensure that the right of non-muslims to state their opinion is also not eroded.

best regards
noetic.

Frizy:
I always like this Sheikh/Imam bonds between Muslim followers, it brings a sense of hope and guides our Islamic understanding from being disrupted. I would also like to bring my Sheikhs sometime on this forum to defend the Muslims and guide them in faith. And ultimately to defeat the Kafirs. That I promise.

You will hear from them soon.

May Allah elevate your status, Imam Abuzola.

what stops u from obtaining the same knowledge as ur imam? ur imam probably knows that Jesus is Lord and has been hiding it from u.

u need to learn and move out of the delusive box and propaganda u are continuously fed with.

Abuzola:
*imam takes over the stage again*

i see you nutshell as a troublemaker, by the way what are you doing in muslim section. I believe my boy Abuzola has been handling you, thats good.


Saudi arabia has high rate of under-age marriage while America, europe and many christian countries have high rate of under age rape, sex and indency.
See the differences.

dont u consider it ignorant and foolhardy that the ignorance of ur boy has been continuously revealed. he is fast becoming an embarrassment to allah and mohammed.

why dont u come and bail him out? why dont u just register and join the forum? we await ur ejaculation of mass delusion and ignorance.

@ Poster

Dont u consider ur points ridiculous especially 1 and 2?

well stated.

Abuzola:
Am the honourable imam online. Abuzola please give me 2 minutes to settle the score.

Imam: Emeka, we muslims already know this before you posted it, sharia is the best way to rule a nation. Today saudi arabia has the least crime all over the world, you can contact the U.N office in your locality to comfirm it.
The muslims know that the only way out of poverty and illiteracy is to follow the Quran and hadith, these are the only remedy. The Prophet said seek for knowledge even if is as far to signh referring to china. Also in a tradition he said 'hustle and make urself rich as if you will not die tomorrow and in another he said 'do good as if you will not reach the next hour'.
Abuzola u can now takeover.

This is interesting.
Saudi also has the highest rate of under-age marriage. . . . . . . .

since ur imam is a literate, what stops him from having his own username? and hopefully come and ejaculate his knowledge or ignorance on the forum. Abeg, dont crack me with laughter

Ogaga4Luv:
"Jesus Lied About Prayer. . .?" find out now!

Jesus is quoted many times in the Bible saying that a believer can ask for anything through prayer and receive it. He even goes so far as to say that mountains and trees can be thrown into the sea simply by praying for it. This is clearly a lie, and can be proven to be a lie by any believer. Simply pray for me to be converted to Christianity right away. Or better yet ask God to move the mountains behind my house. He could make a lot of converts that way. If I’m converted today, I’ll post a public apology on my threads and devote my life to kissing God’s ass. If I’m not converted it would only be fair for you to apologize and devote your life to kissing my butt.



Here are the quotes from Jesus that proves that he lied:



1) And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen. "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive." (Matthew 21:21-22 NAS)



2) Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Matthew 7:7-8 NAB)



3) Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. (Matthew 18:19-20 NAS)



4) Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25 NAB)



5) And I tell you, ask and you will receive; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Luke 11:9-13 NAB)



6) And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13-14 NAB)



7) If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask for whatever you want and it will be done for you. (John 15:7 NAB)



It was not you who chose me, but I who chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit that will remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name he may give you. (John 15:16 NAB)



9) On that day you will not question me about anything. Amen, amen, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you. Until now you have not asked anything in my name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete. (John 16:23-24 NAB)



A lot of Christians ignore what Jesus actually says in the Bible. They also tend to add things to the actual words to make them say something else. If you honestly and truthfully read these quotes, without adding to them, it is very easy to see that Jesus is not saying that God will think about your prayers. He says God will grant all your prayers. Clearly, God doesn’t grant all prayers and this proves that Jesus was a habitual liar.

in addition the brilliant ones already know the Bible is "Twisted written"-and has played a great roll in the life of many less privillage.,anyway stop secrets must definately be exposed to the interest only.

you need to go one step further and explain how each of these verses amounts to a LIE, otherwise ur post is plain STUPID.

toneyb:
I JUST can't understand how muslims came to the absurd conclusion that Jesus was an islamic prophet. I JUST cant understand this.

I dont think u, me or anyone will ever understand, cos even the muslims dont know and cant explain. islam and its contradictions.

muhsin:
@unhealthy noetic2,

Let's re-analyze something: you say
What has your below reply got to do with the thread:

But you tactlessly came again saying: I'm an embarrassment to blah blah blah,

Who is an embarrassment to his religion, then?

An again: if you really knew what the thread is about what brought this your saying;
Is the thread talking about anybody's belief? You are really sick. You surely need an Islamic injection to get back to normalcy. Pathetic.

why are u so insecured? I though u said , u aint gonna reply my posts again. so why not SHUT up?

Jarus:
@Noetic,
Interfere not in what you know not. I had earlier PMed him asking him something private, and he only sent me his email address so that we can discuss more. He used this thread because this was where he felt I can easily get it, and he asked me to delete after reading. Your guess was therefore wrong. I was the one that wanted to confirm something from him, and it's strictly personal between us.
So learn to mind your business pls.

u should learn the difference between interference and stating an opinion. I did not interfare in whatever u both transacted and said between urselves. I simply made an OPINION very very very CLEAR.

Abuzola:
Emaka, my imam said the poster is an idle man and i should leave him with his opinion, besides he is a cross member association.

I don talk am, your highnest imam

u actually need to bring ur imam to nairaland, cos u have been embarrassing him with ur posts. why not do a brain transplant with him?

Abuzola:
Sleek, bring it down, bring the samples let me educate u

u of all people want to educate someone else INDEED

littleb:
@noetic:
Once again, for you to get it clear. Check the characterisitcs of Pharao.

I just want us to reach a consensus on these characteristics of a tyrant.

Do u agree that some of them are
1. profound wickedness against weak and defenceless people.
2. impunity and excessive abuse of power
3. inhumaneness.

Allah does not tired not to think of he would rest. He never tell us the reason he created heaven and earth six days. However, we keep on asking, since he is supernatutural, why can't He created everything in a day! Apply the same principle!

Allah counts His prophets amongst who submitted to Him and he promised them paradise. If I give you Quran verse, will you become muslim?

please dont play any of this intellectually bankrupt games with me. I should become a muslim because u used google to produce verse from ur koran? INCREDIBLE.

produce the verse where allah promised mohammed paradise.

ronkeenuf:
To all muslims who have been responding, may Allah increase you all in knowledge, amin

To all nnon muslims who have contributed, including the poster, thank you for making me a better muslim

To the question, why am I a muslim?

I am a muslim because Islam is the only worthy region. Before I became a muslim, I asked myself, is there God? Does He care to be worshipped? If He does, how does He want us to worship Him? Did He lay down specific ways or would not mind if one says thank you occassionally?

To answer all these questions, I became neutral because I knew if I were otherwise I would only choose my way and hence fool myself believing I'm fooling someone else, i.e., God. In the course of my research and toughts( of creations around me), I realised there is God who created all things around me, who is worthy to be worshipped. Then the question became HOW.Then I asked myself, how do I worship this God? I thought of the major religions in which I noticed its followers worship God persay; christianity and Islam. I studied the tenets of both religions, I noticed christianity recognises God but like every other religion, someone is placed between as if one can not reach God directly.Reasons for this intermediary(ies) are not reasonable. islam encourages reasonability, as a muslim you have to KNOW. From my research and indept reasoning, there is only one God. I say indept reasoning because all creations, when reasoned about, point to the unity of our creator. It was and is Islam that portrays this fact. It is only in Islam that one gets to feel the awesomeness of God and give all due glory to Him. One thing is for sure, it has not been easy because Islam is heavily attacked, directly and indirectly, but like they say, the wrong way is always wide and smooth while the right way is narrow and rough.

I'm a muslim and am proud to be one. May Allah make me one till death, amin.

Salamalaykum  

You have said NOTHING.

What u have said up there CANNOT be the product of a research. what stops u from listing chronologically meaningful points as listed in the OP to explain why EXACTLY u are a muslim. All u have written about a god and how to worship him is meaningless in this context.

squad1:
@Noetic2 (Please read my previous 2 posts and this CLEARLY before replying)

It is probably at Nazareth that Joseph betrothed and married her (Take Note: MARY was BETROTHED to JOSEPH before conceiving JESUS) who was to become the Mother of God. When the marriage took place, whether before or after the Incarnation, is no easy matter to settle, and on this point the masters of exegesis have at all times been at variance. Most modern commentators, following the footsteps of St. Thomas, understand that, at the epoch of the Annunciation, the Blessed Virgin was only affianced to Joseph; as St. Thomas notices, this interpretation suits better all the evangelical data.

When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, "the Lord's brother". A year after his wife's death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse [b]Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, [/b]went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place.


Source: The Catholic Encyclopaedia
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm

I cant find this in my bible. did u get this from allah's original bible?

squad1:
@Noetic2

From the little research i just made (Which u did not do before ur previous postings) These are the "Qualities" of a pedophile

1. "Low self esteem.


As well as being married to Aisha, he was also married to many other women during his life. He wasn't certainly suffering from low self-esteem. Therefore, this does not apply to Prophet Muhammad (SAW).

2. "Lack of impulse control.


As has been mentioned before, Muhammad waited for at least two years before consummating the marriage. Therefore, this point of 'lack of self control' does not apply to Prophet Muhammad (SAW). Also, fasting during Ramadan requires abstention from sexual relations. Why would Muhammad practise this if he had no self-control?

3. "Denial.

Muhammad never once denied having sex with his wife. Also note the use of the term 'victim'. Aisha could not be described as a victim. Therefore, this does not apply to Prophet Muhammad (SAW).


4. "History of previous pedophile activity.

Prophet Muhammad (SAW) has no history of pedophile activity whatsoever. Also, as I pointed out, all of Muhammad's other wives were adult, and there is no evidence of him being obsessed with children. Therefore, this doesn't apply to Muhammad.

"Poor family relationships

Although he was orphaned at a young age, Muhammad was always very close to all his family members, and advocated that whosoever cuts the bond of kith and kin, he/she would be denied paradise. Therefore, this does not apply to Muhammad

5."Low IQ

Despite being illiterate, Muhammad had a reputation for being a very bright young boy, an excellent trader, and an extremely wise man. Therefore, this point does not apply to Prophet Muhammad (SAW).


6. "Loneliness, depression and relationship needs

Prophet Muhammad (SAW) wasn't suffering from depression when he married Aisha. Also, low self-esteem, loneliness, and difficulty to establish relations could not be attributed to Muhammad.

7. "Having been themselves sexually abused

This certainly isn't true. I HAVE demonstrated that, despite the fact THE HOLY PROPHET Muhammad married a nine-year old girl (or eleven), he could NOT be considered a pedophile.

what is the significance of this finding to mohammed's inaction?

squad1:
@Noetic2

Aisha was already engaged to a non Muslim man named Jober Ibn Al-Moteam Ibn Oday. Back then, the people of Mecca did not object to Aisha's engagement to Jober because she was physically big enough and tall enough to be considered for marriage. Her parents saw that and they engaged her to Jober. The only reason why Aisha's father, Abu Baker Al Siddeek, broke her engagement with Jober is because he was a non-Muslim. Later, a woman named Kholeah Bint Hakeem suggested for Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him to marry Aisha, because the Prophet and Abu Baker became best friends. Prophet Muhammad engaged Aisha for 2 years before he married her. All Muslim scholars agree 100% that Prophet Muhammad and Aisha were engaged for 2 years before marriage. However, some say that she was 7 when she got engaged and 9 when she got married. Others say that she was 9 when she got engaged and 11 when she got married. I personally think that it makes more logical sense to say that she was 9 when she got engaged to Prophet Muhammad and 11 when she got married, because if she were 7 when she got engaged to the Prophet, then how old was she when she first got engaged to Jober? I don't think she was big enough and mature enough to get engaged with Jober before the age of 7. I don't think her parents would have allowed it.

Where in the haddith is any of these recorded?

muhsin:
Are you kidding or you mean your words? I wonder, wallahi.

This is not a platform for advertising ignorance, idiocy and stupidity. Please cease doing one. And if you insist on continuing, I'll then advise you to look for a suitable board or child-board for this is for *strictly* advertising topical, sensible, serious and matured religious (Islamic) discussion.

And lastly, let me call it to your misguided brain; I'll, from today henceforth, never, inshaAllah, regard your every singly tantrum infected word. You are not worth discussing with at all. More so, it's more than obviously and evidently portraits that you are the one who needs to get educated.

You are deluded, brainwashed, spiritually polluted and dogmatized.

I disagree, ok.

Let us analyse who is advertising ignorance and stupidity, deluded, brainwashed, spiritually polluted and dogmatized.

The title of this thread is called "Lodge Your Complaints Here". The thread is intended to address complaints from the forum, and there u are attempting to make a personal correspondence on this thread.

I believe that u are an embarrassment to islam, allah and mohammed. If at all there is a definition of the words "deluded" "brain-washed" "very stupid". . . . .I believe that they explicitly DESCRIBE you.

Your inability to answer simple questions about ur believe in allah is on its own astonishing. but why should I expect u to use a brain, if at all u have one. You are a pathetically imebecilic slowpoke.

And it will be in ur interest to ignore my posts.

olabowale:
When a person is this angry at islam, know that such a person is a potential Muslim or sincerely a hater. Remember Umar bin Khattab and Abu Jahal? There is no midle point. But because i like $Osisi, oh Allah dont make her Abu Jahal. Make her Umar bin Khattab, from your mercy. Amin.

Tell me woman, what are the characteristics of a pedophile? The psychological and sociiological qualitative descriptions? Can you tell us? I will be speaking to my business partner who is a Psychriatrist by training. I will ask her to tell me the profile from her studies, and I will post it in later date.

But I went on google and I will post what I saw there. There was no Muhammad (AS) i n there. Please produce your own professional data and lets compare them all!

Pedophile--Characteristics and Behavior PatternsPedophile--Characteristics and Behavior Patterns. , seeks out children at the age or stage of physical development at which he/she was molested. ,
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Characteristics and Behavioral Indicators of a PedophileCharacteristics and Behavioral Indicators of a Pedophile , Although physical abuse may occur, the molestation is usually secretive and is accomplished ,
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simply RIDICULOUS.

littleb:
Prophet Muhammad, prior to his Prophethood, he opposed injustices in his community, he defend the helpless and restore usurped rights to their owners. He was so trusted to extent of being calling him the most truthful and trusworthy. Despite the moral corruption in his community, he lived an extraordinarily chaste and perfectly disciplined life. There was no trace of sexual immorality in his life. Most paedophic had traces of sexual immorality in their youth age. Considering marriage to Aisha supported by the whole communities and bride parents, at young age, the same way Mary(Jesus mother) was given to Joseph at young age is an absurd and insult to divinity. Whoever inclined to such belief is an unbliever, never a Jesus followers. What a lost fellow!

is mohammed a paedophile or not?

littleb:
You are very wrong. Define pedophile. Go through the jewish history. How mature could a girl be for her to be given out for marriage? You need proper training on history and culture first. Then, we check your bible to find out what is depicted as pedophile.

an adult who is sexually attracted to children

so tell me is mohammed a paedophile or not?