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PoliticsRe: True Analysis Of Yar’ Adua’s Health – He Can Only Survive By A Mirracle - Doctor by OAM4J(op): 12:03am On Dec 13, 2009
debosky:
That was not an opinion worthy of consideration - it is an attack on the integrity of individuals without any proof, interlaced with some sob story of her own loss.

While the actual nature of his illness is unknown, we do know he isn't well. . . .it is not for people to discuss and determine if he is fit for office or not - the folk in the FEC come from somewhere and have family members. Talk to them and let them do the right thing and let a medical panel assess whether or not Yardie is fit to continue with being president.
The more I read your posts, the more I wonder whether you are a political apologist or you are just a damm ignorant. Even a school cert dropped-out can see that the man is suffering. It has been officially announced before now that the man has kidney problem, his skin problem is ovious to all and now they are crying he has a heart problem. what more information do you need? With those informations a good doctor should be able to make a good analysis. The anonymous doctor is free to make analysis from a well-informed angle. What she cannot do is to prescribe treatment, since that can only be done after confirmation of her analysis.

This annonymous doctor based her analysis on the information at her disposal and she did mention that it accurateness depends on the truthfulness of those informations.

It is people like you that make others wish the man dead. May be after he died, then your eyes will clear.

Anyway what is most important now is that we cannot continue like this. We need a leader, everyone knows that Yaradua is not available to lead  and Jonathan has not been legally empowered to lead. If he cannot resigns, he can at least write the Nat Assmb. for leave of absence so that his VP can officially take over. If he is not doing any, it might just mean that the Anonymous doctor is right afterall, meaning he is dead but still alive
PoliticsRe: Yar’adua’s Illness: Jonathan Refuses To Sign Budget by OAM4J(op): 11:25pm On Dec 12, 2009
SapeleGuy:
Goodluck nah smart guy, he is merely giving them enough rope to hang themselves.
Bankole and Mark need to do their job Yaradua is in no position to write a letter even if he wanted to.

20 days and counting.
He should not sign or approve anything. When the system is completely broken down, may be they will then wake up.
PoliticsRe: Should Yar Adua Resign or not? by OAM4J: 11:19pm On Dec 12, 2009
What is he waiting for? The collapse of Nigeria? I beg he has overstayed his usefulness.
PoliticsRe: True Analysis Of Yar’ Adua’s Health – He Can Only Survive By A Mirracle - Doctor by OAM4J(op): 11:12pm On Dec 12, 2009
The situation is very bad already, His sickness is making things worst. For God sake these people in government should put the interest of the nation above their selfish interest and let this Yaradua go, if he is no longer capable of writing a resignation letter, they should remove him by declaring him incapable to continue and let his vice step up. may be some things can still be done before 2011 or at least prevent things from getting worst before then.
PoliticsRe: Yar’adua’s Illness: Jonathan Refuses To Sign Budget by OAM4J(op): 7:30am On Dec 12, 2009
Very funny!!! grin
PoliticsRe: Yar’adua’s Illness: Jonathan Refuses To Sign Budget by OAM4J(op): 7:29am On Dec 12, 2009

PoliticsRe: Yar’adua’s Illness: Jonathan Refuses To Sign Budget by OAM4J(op): 7:14am On Dec 12, 2009
[size=16pt]Jonathan is not in charge, and he knows that —Akeredolu[/size]

The Nigeria Bar Association President, Rotimi Akeredolu is firing again from his hot barrels. Now it is over the stalemated Mr. President’s absence and health incapacity. He strongly feels the right thing in law as clearly stipulated in the constitution on how the Vice President should take charge in the absence of the number one man has not been kept.

Akeredolu is not amused by the stance of the Federal Executive Council (FEC) that Jonathan is in charge. He is also not happy that the National Assembly has not seen the reason to make sure things are done lawfully.
Earlier this week, his path and that of the Senate President crossed on the matter at the NBA legal week in Abuja.

Senate President spoke first and sneered at those calling on Mr. President to resign as praise singers and sycophants. Akeredolu fired back at him and insisted that the law must be followed. Now again, the second time in the week, he took a swipe at Goodluck Jonathan, Vice President, in a chat with Saturday Sun, saying that the VP lives in self-deception to think he is in charge as the FEC makes Nigerians understand without any legal backing. That goes to say he could be sitting there just as lame duck – all name and no action.
Hear the rest from the NBA boss:

What is your view on the politics the North is introducing into a legal provision that the vice president takes over when the president is incapacitated and can’t function?
Well, I am hearing this from you, for the first time. I don’t know whether that’s the equation being pursued. You call them the Northern Union. I don’t know whether that’s the point they are making.
But all we know and all what Nigerians believe and what true Nigerians should know, speaking for myself is that this is a country, this is a nation and the only way to build a nation is for us to build institutions and to build such institutions, it can’t be on parochial basis.

Look, we have a constitution, which talks about the office of the president and the office of the vice president and the constitution designs clear provisions as to their respective roles. Whether the president is from the West and his deputy is from East for as long as they have been elected, whether the president is from North and the deputy, no matter where he comes from, the law applies to them fully and equally, the extant provision of the constitution would apply as to who is who, and what is what and what happens after what and what happens.

I don’t know what has happened, the only point we keep making now is very simple and the point is that we have provisions of the constitution. We have Sections 144 and 145 and S145 to me is very clear. If Mr. President left in the manner in which we are made to understand, then his mental state was perfect and I believe he was. All he had to do was to act by declaration to the Senate President that he is going for medical treatment and the Vice President will act for him in his absence. That’s what the constitution provides in section 145.

So, when he comes back he takes over as president, but in his absence the Vice President must act. Although people tell us that the VP has been acting, but that isn’t how the Vice President should act. The VP acts only when there is that letter from the president, or declaration from him to the Senate President to the effect that he is going on vacation and that the VP would act for him. That’s all.

But the PDP insists that Goodluck Jonathan is acting?
Jonathan isn’t acting in law. And he can only act in law, when the provisions of Section 145 have been complied with and we are saying, comply with that section Goodluck Jonathan can be there according to the PDP, and may probably be acting for the party. But we want to know that he is acting in law and he can only act in law when Section 145 of the constitution is complied with and that’s is what we are saying.

The president should have complied with that section before leaving. We went further and the position of the NBA is simple; that if the president acts the way we have heard about the issue of his health, the time has come for the application of section 144 of the constitution for a medical team to assess, if he is capable to continue in office. If they say, he is, nobody would say he shouldn’t continue. But we aren’t going to rely on PDP medical report. The country can’t rely on Aondoakaa’s medical report.

The AGF isn’t a doctor, he is serving his own selfish interest there, nobody is going to rely on his medical report, neither are we going to rely on the wife’s medical report.
This issue of Mr. President’s health has become like a breaking plate that is often repeated, every now and then. So, what is wrong in a medical team telling us whether our president is capable to carry on the work he has been elected to do? If for every reason they believe that with his health he can’t cope with the weight of the job, then, let him resign. That’s all. It is in his own interest and that of the country for him to resign.

But it seems those who should set the machinery in process for the VP to act have shut their minds to the entreaties of Nigerians and what the law says. The Senate and the FEC have shown they are not ready?
I agree, I am not saying he can’t be away. The Bar would not say he can’t be away. It isn’t that he can’t be away for treatment for a year, all well and good but while he is away, let the VP act for him in law and let him send the letter to the senate and the VP is there acting the law. That’s all.

When the VP has such backing in law, then he can do many things and there would be no vacuum. That means he is already acting as the president of the country, but if you don’t have such letter and you pretend to be acting, you aren’t only fooling yourself and trying to fool the country. If there is no such declaration and no letter is sent to the Senate, you are only fooling yourself. That’s what we are saying. So, it is a simple thing, but I don’t know why we are belabouring this issue. I don’t know why the president is taking us through all this torture and the Senate, House of Representatives and PDP are taking the whole country through all this unnecessary debate on the health of the president.

Anybody can take ill, everybody should continue to pray, but the point is that while we are praying for him and he isn’t here, somebody must in law act for him under Section 145 of the constitution and that must be done. There shouldn’t be any pretence about it, whether the person who is going to act will come from the East or South doesn’t matter. He chose the VP and luckily it was Goodluck Jonathan he chose.
So, he is the one that would act and there is no way you can play round it. Jonathan as Vice President must act for him. That’s the point we are making.

The AGF’s position on section 145 conflicts with the NBA’s interpretation and that of other concerned Nigerians. Does that still come back to the call for the separation of office of AGF and that of minister of justice to insulate the AGF from politics?
I agree with you. A number of us are bewildered about a lot of his statements, the Bar is worried, majority of our members are really concerned. In fact, I received calls, I am inundated with text messages from lawyers and non-lawyers alike about the way Aondoakaaa is carrying out his functions. One is worried about it and one has to say it that it is unfortunate.

It is the person who occupies the office that makes what the office becomes; that is what I want you to know. I agree with you that probably the office of the AGF and minister of justice should be separated, there have been several arguments. But a lot of our people have occupied that office and did it with style; they have been able to differentiate their role as minister of justice and that of AGF. The way they had interpreted the law was not partisan, and they were not influenced by political parties.

Some people have been there before this man. Aondoakaa wouldn’t be the first. If you continue to get the kind of reactions that I get from almost everybody, then it means that something is wrong. It isn’t because of the fact that two offices are combined. It is probably because of the person that occupies the office now. He doesn’t appreciate his role, or that the AGF of the country has to be dispassionate in interpreting the law. He can’t do it under any influence, whether PDP or otherwise. This is what is lacking, this is what he doesn’t understand.

We have been calling on him to interpret what Sections 144 and 145 of the constitution say. All these points he has been making about whether it is moral or not to be making an issue of Yar’Adua ill-health are balderdash. It is an unfortunate thing an AGF is asked to look at what is the provision of section 145; to know if that has been complied with? Is Jonathan not entitled in law to act? Now that the president has gone abroad for medical treatment, can he be said to still be working as president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria? If Yar’Adua is on working tour, he could be in Britain or America, nobody asks him when he will come back.

The other time he travelled, did he hand over to Jonathan? When you are going for medical treatment or your vacation, when you will not be able to perform the functions of that office, somebody must by law be in charge. That’s what Section 145 says and that is what we are asking him to interpret, not to talk to us about morality and other things that don’t concern him. This man, Aondoakaa has a problem and I think it is better for us to advise him not to become a problem to the country itself.

But why are you always pissed off with him - whether in his interpretation of the law, or on the government’s anti-corruption war?
It is not me, I think the whole country is pissed off, the whole country is. Look, I can subject him to a poll and I can assure you that 99 per cent of the people of this country would tell you that this man is a problem to this country as an AGF. I have received text messages. The Bar has been a bit mellow in our reactions to him and we have only advised him that he shouldn’t embarrass us, but he continues and I think the time has come that we will tell him to his face that, ‘look you are an embarrassment to the profession.’ The AGF is an embarrassment to the legal profession.

In the past we had AGFs whose stewardships were anything but decent; but they return to the Bar and the camaraderie continues. Don’t you think there should be a way the NBA should reprimand its members who served as AGF and didn’t behave well?
I think there should be and a number of us have said so; a number of us have even said that when we have our colleagues who have held political offices they should be made answerable for what they do, just like Bill Clinton when he perjured - ordinary perjury! By the time he finished as President the Bar of Arkansas suspended his licence. By the time he completed his tenure as president, the Arkansas Bar to which he belonged, tried him and suspended his licence, because he perjured. He just told a simple lie: “I never met that girl”. That is all.

But here, we have people who are Attorney General who do worse things. People who have held political offices and they do things that are best described as professional misconduct, but they come back, nothing is done.
I believe the Bar should look into this. You are right. We should look into it so that if I commit any wrong, the Bar should be able to try me. There’s no problem; if it amounts to professional misconduct I should be dealt with. There’s nothing wrong with it. This is what we clamour for; let us all try and see what we can do about this. I think you are right, I agree with you that it shouldn’t be issue of business-as-usual that people will now leave offices having committed a lot of error and will still come back, be among us and they will be working as if they are kings. It is an unfortunate thing.

What’s the update in the calls for reform of the process of selecting SANs. Are those who want the status quo to remain winning?
Yes, there’s a battle. But honestly I don’t know who is winning - whether those who want the status quo to remain are winning the battle, or otherwise.
All I know is that the process of selection has undergone a lot of changes in the past. A lot has happened over the last two years and I think a lot is still happening but the Bar wouldn’t rest on its oars and we will continue to insist that the process must be one in which transparency must be shown. The Bar would continue to insist that it wants to play greater role in selection of its members for preferment as senior advocates.

If you want to select lawyers as senior advocates, the Bar wants to know how you come about it, we want to be part of it. I, for one, speaking for myself, I think it has got to a stage that I am going to urge the Bar to also in addition to whatever the Legal Practitioners Privileges Committee LPPC) has in existence, the NBA should also set up its own committee to assess its members and now put it across that these members are qualified to become SANs. That means we are going through two processes: the Bar itself assesses its members, it passes it to LPPC and say,” from my own assessment, these are the ones that are qualified’’.

Don’t you think that could lead to internal wrangling and polarize the Bar?
There won’t be any internal wrangling, all of us will submit to what the committee decides. So, at the end of the day, all we are clamoring for is that the selection by LPPC must tally with what we feel is ok.
If you place somebody that the Bar hasn’t recommended, then it means that the person isn’t qualified. So, the Bar itself must have its own process of selection of its members. I am not saying it has been discussed, but this is my own suggestion to the Bar. I will take it to them and believing that the Bar will accept set up its own committee to assess its members so that when we do that we can screen our members and say, “these are the ones that are qualified’’. If they now say they are going to give to only fifteen, fair enough, you are the body set up by law to do it, but those fifteen must be among those we believe are qualified to be SANs. That’s all.

Will the NBA recommendation be taken in absolute terms? Won’t some use it to settle personal scores?
No, it won’t be in absolute terms. Personal scores? No, the people who are going to be involved are going to be men on integrity. We are going to pick not only senior advocates, we are going to be thorough. Even in our own committee there might be judges and they all sit down and assess people. They will appear before them, they will use their offices and we now say,” from what we have, those who claimed they have applied, these are the ones we believe are qualified.’’ We send it to you and we give you reasons.
http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2009/dec/12/national-12-12-2009-00-003.htm
PoliticsRe: Yar’adua’s Illness: Jonathan Refuses To Sign Budget by OAM4J(op): 5:58am On Dec 12, 2009
Why should he sign it.

Good for all those greedy politicians. Now that there is no approved money for them to spend, let's see what they would do.
PoliticsYar’adua’s Illness: Jonathan Refuses To Sign Budget by OAM4J(op): 5:56am On Dec 12, 2009
The power vacuum created in the Presidency by the failure of ailing President Umaru Yar‘Adua to delegate power to the Vice-President, Dr. Goodluck Jonathan, is beginning to take a toll on the country, with no one to sign the 2009 Supplementary Budget into law.

Saturday Punch investigation revealed that Jonathan declined to assent to the supplementary budget bill passed by the National Assembly early in the week.

A source close to the Federal Executive Council told our correspondent that Jonathan’s decision was based on his belief that budget-signing was an exclusive duty of the President, which he could not undertake because he had not been made the Acting President in line with Section 145 of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Although it was gathered that before he left for Saudi Arabia for medical treatment at the King Faisal Specialist Hospital in Jeddah, President Yar‘Adua instructed that all files that needed his attention should be forwarded to the Vice-President, Jonathan was unwilling to take any decision that could raise constitutional problems.

As a result, our correspondent gathered, Jonathan would not sign the supplementary budget or other sensitive decisions requiring the President’s approval.

A source also told our correspondent that it was also for the same reason that the Vice-President withheld approval of the list of the 2009 National Awards presented to him by the Governing Board of the Nigerian National Merit Awards at a meeting on December 1, 2009.

The source said, ”There is no way the Vice-President would sign the supplementary budget. It is a presidential function, and he (Jonathan) is keen to avoid issues that would raise constitutional problems.

”I can assure that, if he signs it, there will be reactions. People will go to court and make noise all over the place. In the end, the supplementary budget will not be implemented because of the issues that will be raised.

”The Constitution spelt out certain functions that could be performed by the President and the Vice-President, and others that could be delegated. This (signing of the budget) is an exclusive function of the President. There is no way he would sign it.”

While the signing of the supplementary budget is mirred in confusion, there was also uncertainty concerning its whereabouts. Saturday Punch gathered that the supplementary budget was still with the National Assembly several days after it was passed by the lawmakers. It was also gathered that the fact that the Vice-President was not in a position to sign it, informed its delay at the National Assembly.

Similarly, a scheduled meeting of the National Council of State, the highest advisory body in the country, was postponed indefinitely because Jonathan could not chair it. The Council was supposed to meet in the last week of November, but the meeting was postponed after its members were told to ignore the invitations earlier extended to them.

The National Council of State comprises the President, former presidents/heads of state, state governors, and past and serving chief justices of Nigeria.

The postponed meeting was supposed to consider and approve membership of some key Federal Government commissions. It was also expected to approve the application made by some foreigners to become Nigerian citizens.

There have been fears that the machinery of governance could grind to a halt in the absence of President Yar‘Adua, an insinuation the government has spiritedly refuted.

In rejecting calls on the Federal Executive Council to invoke the provisions of Section 144 in order to pave the way for Yar‘Adua‘s resignation on the grounds of ill-health, the Secretary to the Government of the Federation, Alhaji Yayale Ahmed, had maintained that Jonathan was in charge.

He, however, noted that on matters requiring the President‘s express approval, contacts were being made with Saudi Arabia and such approvals did come.

At a news conference after a FEC meeting on December 2, 2009, Ahmed had said, ”I want to assure Nigerians that this government is indeed working and is in good shape. Every other aspect of governmental activity is being conducted well, and the Vice-President, as usual, is in charge.

”On issues that would require Mr. President‘s express approval, contacts are being made and such approvals do come.”

But the SGF‘s explanations have not been able to put to rest calls for the Vice-President to officially assume the position of Acting President, a situation that would enable him to perform all the constitutional duties of the President.

In Yar‘Adua‘s absence, Jonathan had represented the President at a number of events, including presiding over the weekly FEC meetings.

The FEC, chaired by Jonathan, had on Wednesday ratified the President‘s anticipatory approval for an International Development Association budget support credit of $500m.

There are also strong indications that the VP will stand in for Yar‘Adua to provide answers to critical national questions that may be raised by the Nigerian Economic Summit Group and civil society organisations at a presidential policy dialogue during the forthcoming National Economic Summit scheduled to commence in Abuja on December 15.

At a meeting with the Board of Directors of the NESG at his office in the Presidential Villa on Tuesday, Jonathan reportedly assured that he would be available if Yar‘Adua was not yet back.

The NESG had at an earlier meeting with the President on September 1 2009, invited Yar‘Adua to take the ”hot seat” and provide answers to questions on critical national issues that would be raised by a panel set up by the group.

The programme, which the NESG termed ”presidential policy dialogue”, is an innovation being introduced at this year‘s summit.

During the dialogue, the President is expected to present the country‘s economic scorecard, and respond to questions concerning it. Yar‘Adua had agreed to take up the challenge.

However, with Yar‘Adua currently hospitalised in Jedda, Saudi Arabia, the NESG again raised the invitation during its meeting with the Vice-President on Tuesday.

Issues expected to be raised by the NESG include the poor performance of federal budgets, the Niger Delta question, insecurity, unemployment and infrastructural challenges, particularly the problems in the power sector.

President of the NESG, Mr. Sam Ohuabunwa, had reportedly given indications that Jonathan would represent Yar‘Adua at the event when he said, ”The Vice-President has promised us that Mr. President will be available for the meeting. But if he is not, that he himself and the Economic Team will take the heat, and actually, that‘s the issue.”

Efforts by Saturday Punch to get the Vice-President‘s spokesman, Mr. Ima Niboro, to confirm the reports that Jonathan had declined to sign the Supplementary Budget on constitutional grounds and had also refused to approval the 2009 National Awards list were not successful.

Calls made to his phone numbers could not go through, while text messages sent to him were not delivered because the lines were not available.
http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art200912121614957
PoliticsRe: Plolice Issues International Arrest Warrants For El-rufai And Ribadu by OAM4J: 4:59am On Dec 12, 2009
mikeansy:
please what should Ribadu come home to defend himself on?

its shameful that you continue to make this comment one week after a Tribunal recognised in law has confirmed that Ribadu is innocent of the only charges against him.
I wonder why they are looking for him o. The court has all the evidences that he declared his assets, and had said so. what else are they looking for?

And El Rufai said he will be in Nigeria by 27th December. http://www.pointblanknews.com/os2552.html (I just hope they wont kill him)
PoliticsRe: Becomrich Says When I Become President , Quote Me An Igbo Would Be President by OAM4J: 4:38am On Dec 12, 2009
[quote author=becomrich, link=topic=363638.msg5095781#msg5095781 date=1260574470]My name is Adesegun.

Live in toronto.



dont worry about my date of birth, I am old enough to be president. I read the constitution.


It was my voice you heard for several year on naija radio.

I can change your life.[/quote]Adesegun What? ( what is your surname Mr Adesegun?)

And put your real picture here or on your profile. Not Satellite picture pls.

Thanks.
FamilyRe: Why Do We Marry? by OAM4J: 4:29am On Dec 12, 2009
michelin89:
I love surprises. They are challenging. cool
Trust me, in marriage you will see plenty surprises, I have seen them in many marriages. All the best.  cool

For me, I need better reasons, else I want she & I to remain lovers till either love or hatred or change of mind or death do us part. cheesy
PoliticsRe: True Analysis Of Yar’ Adua’s Health – He Can Only Survive By A Mirracle - Doctor by OAM4J(op): 4:21am On Dec 12, 2009
I agree with you. As a matter of fact, they broke the news of Yaradua travelling to Saudi Arabia for medical reasons before Yaradua spokesperson (Adeniyi) announced the edited version.
PoliticsRe: True Analysis Of Yar’ Adua’s Health – He Can Only Survive By A Mirracle - Doctor by OAM4J(op): 7:23pm On Dec 11, 2009
She is at least more genuine, informed and patriotic than you.

You want her to tell you her name so that you and your co-assassins can go after her?
PoliticsRe: True Analysis Of Yar’ Adua’s Health – He Can Only Survive By A Mirracle - Doctor by OAM4J(op): 5:52pm On Dec 11, 2009
proudly9ja:
I think I agree with you. The president is at a stage he can't take decisions himself and unfortunately, those around him (Turai, and all the psychophant Governors and ministers) will only take selfish decisions.

If there's anyone who needs prayers, I think its us, Nigerians. Please take time to pray for Nigeria.
All the prayer warriors should pray more for Nigeria. Nigeria is in bigger trouble than Yar'adua.
PoliticsRe: Paid Political Hack On Nl! by OAM4J: 5:47pm On Dec 11, 2009
kuramo:
These Ibori / Yar' Dull proxies paroh_frey = Depilot = walakolobo = tosh acer  i[b] believe are one and the same corrupt types with no sense of morals[/b].  I don't usually waste my time with their lot.
Gbam!
RomanceRe: Being A "player" Vs. Being A "one Woman Guy" by OAM4J: 6:35am On Dec 11, 2009
you are on your own on this. Don't expect any sister to give you a pat for this, may be some brothers, even the best of players don't like to admit they are one, hence they spoil their game.
PoliticsRe: True Analysis Of Yar’ Adua’s Health – He Can Only Survive By A Mirracle - Doctor by OAM4J(op): 5:46am On Dec 11, 2009
Right now, I think Nigerians are the looser. He is in a state where he can no longer take decision for himself or for the nation. He can not write and send a leave letter or letter of resignature. The people around him will not tell us the truth, rather they want people to keep praying for a miracle. FEC will also do nothing, because voting for his removal might also be a political-suicide for them. Same with the Nat. Assembly. Nigeria is at the mercy of selfish and unpatriotic people in Government.

The truth is except a miracle happens and he recovers or He dies, the status quo might remain till 2011.
PoliticsRe: True Analysis Of Yar’ Adua’s Health – He Can Only Survive By A Mirracle - Doctor by OAM4J(op): 4:03am On Dec 11, 2009
Now i understand why they are calling for prayers. Lord have mercy!
PoliticsTrue Analysis Of Yar’ Adua’s Health – He Can Only Survive By A Mirracle - Doctor by OAM4J(op): 4:00am On Dec 11, 2009
[b]I just woke up to read this idiotic piece dished out to Nigerians. First, let me say, that beyond all reasonable doubt that if the diagnosis and the muddled up information dished out by the demons in PDP are true, then Mr. Yar'dua is  not coming back to Nigeria, at least NOT on his feet.

Please do not get me wrong, do not mistake my take as  being cold hearted or  see me as a woman without African compassion in her. In fact I feel all these because I was once in the shoes of Mrs Yar'dua. Not that my own man had his kind of influence or money, but I loved him with all my heart all the same.

OK, look at this, the man is not able to speak or he is inaudible if he does. No mam/sir, the man cannot speak at all. The man is on a ventilator, he is intubated to secure the airway because someone did not have the presence of mind to intubate him, secure his airway, hyperventilate him en route to Saudi Arabia, so he SUFFERED ANOXIC NEURO DAMAGE. It takes only 3mins and at best 5 mins for any one to suffer irreversible brain damage without oxygen. So, his fool of a doctor putting him on oxygen via nasal cannula will only give the man nose bleed without making much difference. . Doctors flown in from Germany and America will not make a difference.
The man had a cascade of chemical activities when his heart failed or should I say when he suffered vascular collapse in Abuja. These chemical reactions will open the gates for toxic reactions hence his systemic collapse. It takes only a couple of minutes, 8 mins precisely or may be a little longer in some strange people for the chemical to bring down  the whole system. In that case, he will be in a vegetative state . 

What is happening now is that they have put him on life support, he can neither talk or blink, he is in what we call CATATONIC STATE, with only the severely compromised brain ticking away. In that case , his algorithm will be  very erratic on the monitor,  They can give him all the epi.  in the world and it will not make a difference.

I am almost sure the man is on life support. I want to assume he also has a trach. They will do that to access his lungs to see if miracle can happen as soon as he arrived in the hospital because his airway would have been compromised by the time he got to the hospital. Where we cannot get a line into a patient, we go for O/S, and that is we go through the the  trachea to get the lungs filled with oxygen. Sometime, the man will be artificially kept alive as long as his heart is still registering on the monitor, no matter how poor his algorithm may be. In that case, he will be dead and alive at the same time. However, we do keep them on to see if they will make a miraculous come back. There are some things, indeed a lot of things medicine cannot explain. One of which is the phenomenon of the COME BACK KIDS. as we call them. We keep them on as long as per family request until the register a PEA on the monitor and then they go away forever. Those moments are so surreal. So, what is Madam President is doing now is hoping that the man will make a miraculous come back. I am surprised Gov saraki is part of this caper because he is before anything else a medical professional who from all indications does not know what is on in our world anymore.   The man will speak to the nation? common guys, this guy ain't speaking to no one but his creator. He cannot speak because he has tubes in his throat or though his nasal septum. Actually he has more than that. let me tell you guys what he has:

1.       FOLEY CATH:  That is a tube going through his manliness to his bladder to drain urine into a urine bag for measurement. The essence of it is to see his urine osmolality and to measure the kidney function. We want to see at least 30 ml of urine per hour. In his case, it is not likely because the reports say his kidneys are gone. Poor guy.  besides, we do not want him to void on himself so that we do not have issues of skin break down from the ammonia in the urine.

2. RECTAL TUBE:  that is the one that will collect all the feces if at all. That is to maintain hygiene.  We also want to see the color, size, viscosity of the feces. It tells a lot. That is besides the fact that he is in ICU or IMU,   nurses on those wards are not known to tolerate an incontinent patient. Besides, you do not want to accidentally dislodge a tube because all the alarms will go off at the same time. I once rotated to IMCU and the noise from the monitors almost drove me to drink. I do not drink at all.

3. TRACHEOSTOMY:   That is meant to be part of his breathing tubes which will be connected to a ventilator. because the lungs are crappy now, am sure his secretions will be suctioned for him so that he does not drown in his own fluids.

4. G or J TUBe: That is to maintain nutrition for him and to see his if he can make a miraculous come back.

5. OROPHARYNGEAL TUBES: connected to the ventilator. helps him to breathe.

6. NASO GASTRIC TUBE: Not likely because the oro is already in, but may be they were not able to get in the oro tube and since he did not have a facial or cranial wound, he may be a candidate for the naso  tube. If his  his oral airway had been compromised before he got to Saudi Arabia. The dumb doctor did not intubate him, his airway would have become occluded and so we go through the nasal septum.

7. CENTRAL LINE:  that is to medicate him, draw labs which will be done round the clock at least B. I.D to see his chemistry. I hope they gave him the triple lumen so that if he cannot tolerate a g-tube, he will be getting  parentral nutrition. His eyes may be wide open which is kind of creepy or it may be shut. If it is my facility, we will close the eyes so that there is no corneal damage. If the eyes are left open, his people will ignorantly think he is looking at them and some times families think they see the man blinking. yeah right, The rise and fall of the chest may look even tot he uninitiated, they may think his respiration is even and unlabored, but it is the ventilator working. The man may no longer be taking spontaneous  respiration. it is the machines breathing for him. The family may think other wise.
 
Is there something am missing? please remind me in your reply.  The point is Mrs Yar'dua might be going through the stages of grief which is understandable. Look, when mine was in the throes of death, I walked in the icy rain of Washington, DC and I did not feel it. I went into denial. I almost  gambled away my license. I went to Dr Yamamoto, my daughter's instructor when she rotated to Cardiology.  He is the 5th cardiologist in the USA. I asked him to do a miracle. I wept like a baby because I saw him slipping into death.

Stages of grief are 4:

1. DENIAL : no it is not happening. He will come back. Lightening will strike and all of you will be shamed. I feel her pain.
2. ANGER: You feel betrayed by the patient. You blame him for being sick. You cuss at him and at every one who tells you anything contrary to what you want to hear. 
3. BARGAINING; you attempt to bargain with God and get all the prayer warriors to pray to God to give you a second chance. 
4.  ACCEPTANCE: You accept the party is over and allow the man to go.

I feel her pain. She will get there. I went through it. I cussed at mine on some occasions, I cried and rocked him like a baby in the next minute. I dropped 4 dress sizes. I went into deep sadness. I blamed every body, lashed at him while he was sick. Tried all the hospitals all over the world. Got through to a friend practicing in South Africa for a heart transplant and blew all my savings including my childrens' money hoping for a miracle. he eventually expired and I almost suffered a melt down. Now, guys, having said that, I have zero respect to all those fools in Nigeria who have what we call the FOOT MOUTH DISEASE. Seriously, there is a disease like that, but IT IS FOUND IN COWS. Those folks in the national assembly are mentally below cows in the realm of things.

May God help us, and am genuinely praying, but it is not likely the man will come back. That is however, based on the premise that all what we have read is true.



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PoliticsRe: Becomrich Says When I Become President , Quote Me An Igbo Would Be President by OAM4J: 2:44am On Dec 11, 2009
Now. This is not funny any more.

Please identify yourself. Your real name, date of Birth, Place of Birth and your Present location with a recent photograph not older than six months.

Thanks. cool

NB.
failure to do so, I will--- (don't worry) cool
CultureRe: Common 'madness' In Lagos? by OAM4J: 2:29am On Dec 11, 2009
may be if you have not asked 'such' questions, I wouldn't have popped out.  cool
PoliticsRe: Plolice Issues International Arrest Warrants For El-rufai And Ribadu by OAM4J: 2:25am On Dec 11, 2009
I know. It only makes one laugh cheesy grin
FamilyRe: Who's More Important In A Marriage? The Husband Or The Kids? by OAM4J: 2:21am On Dec 11, 2009
agabaI23:
OAM4J
Thanks for making me review my atrocious post.
My mistake actually. guess it all make sense now. thanks to you too.  wink cool
CultureRe: Common 'madness' In Lagos? by OAM4J: 1:37am On Dec 11, 2009
[quote author=mama-gee link=topic=364306.msg5089315#msg5089315 date=1260491385]^^Why did you leave? undecided[/quote]Guess the same reason you left undecided
PoliticsRe: Plolice Issues International Arrest Warrants For El-rufai And Ribadu by OAM4J: 1:35am On Dec 11, 2009
[quote author=mama-gee link=topic=364543.msg5089332#msg5089332 date=1260491571]Where did those thieves go? angry[/quote]I thot they are with you undecided cheesy
PoliticsRe: 6000 Megawatts 20 Days To Go: by OAM4J: 1:33am On Dec 11, 2009
Are people still expecting 6000mw this year? It is very unrealistic.
PoliticsRe: NL Politics Section Contributors Of The Year!!! by OAM4J: 1:30am On Dec 11, 2009
Jcob:
Becomerich has never been involved in any logical and rational discussions. It amazed me how he got the best political contributor. There more to politics than map reading. No wonder we suffer in the nation. The most popular candidate is not always the best for the job. Jakumo rules.
Can you prove your points with maps? grin Mapomeji rules!!! cheesy grin grin


grafikdon:
Never under estimate the strength of  "Junior Mapia". With Egwuofor, Lookalike, Bashali, Southunity, Complove, tayo4lif, Uchenna . . . on rampage, even Jesus Christ will have  a hard time beating the King of Mapsters  in any Nairaland Poll.
grin grin grin
FamilyRe: Who's More Important In A Marriage? The Husband Or The Kids? by OAM4J: 1:20am On Dec 11, 2009
[quote author=!amebo no1 link=topic=363901.msg5089162#msg5089162 date=1260489002]It did not happen like this, yes they had an accident, he wasnt there cos he was in a different car with his wife, it was the car his kids were in that fell into river[/quote]Not sure, Its been long time now. but I think I heard him say he has to choose between his wife and the children.

Anyway if I marry you and am to choose between you and the kids, normally i would have chosen my wife, but for you i will choose the kids, because of the yaba left syndrome  grin
FamilyRe: Why Do We Marry? by OAM4J: 1:12am On Dec 11, 2009
Even when i don't like or feel comfortable with the flow?

I think we follow the flow most of the time cos we are not sure of what we really want.
FamilyRe: Why Do We Marry? by OAM4J: 1:06am On Dec 11, 2009
Think it is for us to determine and not for them to choose for us or do it to please them. Its about us not about them.
FamilyRe: Why Do We Marry? by OAM4J: 1:00am On Dec 11, 2009
But Honestly, must we go through marriage institution? must we necessarily pass through this particular reform? Why cant we just live happily without signing any legal paper?

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