₦airaland Forum

989900:
The buck stops with the President. That is why we voted GEJ out, and that is why we will vote PMB out if things do not change. I have large faith in the long term prognosis of this country under PMB, but in the short term 'nko'? A good chunk of the population will either be dead, jobless, out of school, turned criminals, or laden with terminal illnesses if things don't change in double time.

The president was elected to check ills afflicting the country from security, to general saboteurs, to the economy, or find alternatives to them, hell, he campaigned and lobbied for the job for years, that he knows how to fix this. The Forex situation will soil him and end his government if care is not taken. If him or anyone thinks this is beyond him, then we have a problem, and he should do the graceful by resigning.

310 to 475, we already have the perfect situation for systemic collapse . . . and Emefiele is still the governor?

Morning Bro.

you and I know that sacking Emefiele is another war story on its own. It's really sad that we are back to the same spot we were before the 'acclaimed' floating of the currency with the official interbank and black-market rates being far far apart; I can't understand why they can't float the damn thing properly and close all room for round tripping. Me sef I don taya for this govt honestly..

Osmondinho:
Go and reread my post again... slowly this time


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Haba! if that's the case, then your choice of words were either poor or you deliberately set out to twist information; nobody reads or comprehends things literally. For the sake of an argument you can claim you used the word 'completed', but a road which was over 95% complete shouldn't really be shoved aside as non-existence simply because it wasn't 100%.

Osmondinho:
I will always blame OBJ for the poor state of Federal roads in Southeast.


Throughout his 8yrs in power, there was no federal roads that was completed. GEJ tried his best but he also have part of the blame.

infact.... All the past government never cared about the Igbo's and that is why there is continuous agitation from my people.

You are not right about OBJ not fixing a single federal road in the SE; the Onitsha-Owerri road as an example was 98% complete by the time OBJ left. On the contrary, GEJ was far more worse in terms of road construction in the SE especially when one even considers the much higher revenue he had at his disposal. At the end of the day, I think both of them need to be flogged; special flogging needs to also be reserved for all the high ranking Igbo politicians who have occupied the senate presidency and other NASS positions and even the ministers (past and present) who have gone to Abuja to fill their pockets and remember their people only when it is time for elections or when they've been arrested by EFCC.

ephi123:
Private investors are that - private. They are not regulated by their own government, besides obligation to pay their taxes.
TSA can't be spent "like that" - okay, what should it be spent on?

Businesses are regulated by governments. If a UK company wants to build a plant in Nigeria, it must get approval from the uk govt. Nigeria struck a deal with a bank in China to finance our rail projects, the last time I checked, the final approval for that was discussed between buhari and the chinese president, so my dear, private businesses too are regulated. If the Uk govt says NO to coal plants, a UK private company cant come to Nigeria to build a coal plant, neither can a UK bank give Nigeria a loan to build a coal plant.

Once again, TSA money isnt disposable income that the government can just dip its hands into and spend.

TheEastActivist:
Your reasoning has shot you at the leg, now I know you are rational and talking with sentiments BC buhari ministers that are being criticised for incompetence are from your kinsmen.


Now I dismiss you and thanks for letting me know that I was wasting my time with a zombie.

You were making no sense and just blabbing out of an ingrained hate sentiment for the govt. Renewable energy is 3 times more expensive than sources like coal, and even for the cheaper coal, Nigeria doesnt have the funds and needs to still borrow to finance it. Now these loans are being blocked because the lenders dont want us to harness coal energy.

With the above situation, what exactly was your response?... you claimed the govet was useless bla bla bla.... and you think you were making any sense?... An now you myopically bring ethnicity into the simple discussion?...

ephi123:
But the government claims to be recovering monies left and right, TSA, looted funds, so why not use that?
Besides they could approach private investors rather than governments - but considering how they've wrecked the business environment I won't blame any private investor who holds back.

Private investors rather than governments?... arent you aware the activities of those private investors are also regulated by their govts?

Besides, the recovered moneys (e.g. TSA) cant just be spent like that, it isn't disposable money. Then the recovered loots are insignificant compared to what nigeria needs.

TheEastActivist:
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You are not serious for putting off the effect of co2 in our atmosphere.

As far as technology is concerned standards are sacrosanct....

A coal power plant this moment will be very harmful to our space and the world at large...

Nigeria should try and invest in the power sector not this lip service of finding who to blame..

So which should start blaming the Westerners BC we have no power, is that how it should be now?

That's rubbish, nobody should take kemi serious and the minister of power should sway in and inject money into the sector for a workable efficient source of energy....

Finish

You say Nigeria should invest in the power sector and not make excuses, Nigeria intends to harness coal energy but doesnt have the money and can't get funding (loans) cos some hypocritical countries who use coal for half of their power generation think it is unclean for Nigeria to do same. Such is the situation but you choose to take sides against your country because you hate the president and his ministers?

Sorry but I think you are just a directionless wailer who is just out to criticise for the sake of it.

Izonpikin:
oboy shey na avengers and gej cause this wahala..??...i hope next time ona go vote vibrant intellectual to rule nigeria...

or maybe we should wait on dangote to come produce all we need to survive in this country ruled by an old frail certificateless man...

God is really punishing nigeria...

Bros make una try understand say oga Jona don go.... try and put that election behind you....

Oh yes, lack of forex is the prime reason behind the problem. 92% of Nigeria's forex income comes from oyel. Oil price drops by more than half, avengers place the icing on the cake by wiping out over 40% of Nigeria's oil export and all in all, forex inflow has dropped by over 60%. Confused haters would choose to say it is buhari policy flops that is responsible for the forex scarcity, but that is nonsense compared to the contributions of oil price and 'your boys.'

Econs 101, when there is scarcity, the price goes up; today the price of a dollar is N475, and this inflaton is swallowing the profits of companies, the inflation is also making production far more costly and the difficulty in accessing the scarce forex is making business climate very difficult thereby forcing many businesses away from Nigeria (more forex flight).

So yeah, if you say so, avengers totally have their hands written all over this and all Nigerians are suffering it. If you like continue to blame buhari and his certificate, every unbiased person knows the real problem.

ephi123:
Did Western powers hold your hand and stop you from building? Do other countries "block" the hands of the Western powers from doing what they want. What kind of nonsense is all this? Can we please stop with the talks and get things done. The blame game is getting tiring!!

A begger has no choice... whrn you run around begging people for money in form of free donations or even loans, then the people have a right to dictate to you what you do with the money they want to give to you. I'm sure you are aware Nigeria is frantically looking for where to get loans from?

TheEastActivist:
Please the world is changing so fast so Mrs finance minister follow the trend...

Science has a standard for everything.
To checkmate global warming and ozone depletion there are many technology that has fade out with time to give room for cleaner fuel to power our infrastructures in order to save the earth ozone layer and checkmate global warming.

Sometimes I ask who is advising the woman she looks young but acts so old in the brain. How can in this century you want to use coal to power your country when there are other better way of doing it using solar and wind even ordinary water too.

This woman won't stop disgracing herself and Nigeria at large. So for your mind Na Westerners they hold you .. smh this woman is a joke as one would say apc has graduated the blame game to a whole new level.


#SackKemiNow

You need to direct you criticism rationally. First of all, I do not think it is the finance minister who decides on the kind of power plants to build.

Secondly, there is nothing wrong with using coal to generate electricity. Forget all the bulls**t about the environment, coal still provides 40% of world energy till date and the biggest developed and industralised countries are the biggest users of coal. The US gets over 40% of its power from coal, china gets over 75% of its power from coal, I can't remember the statistic from Germany but if I'm right, the Germans are currently building a very massive new coal plant as we speak.

As a nation, just like a child, we must first learn to crawl and then walk, before we start thinking of running. Renewables (wind, solar etc) are far far more expensive that the traditional ways. Nigeria is presently in darkness, we still use kerosene lanterns in our homes and have tens of millions of tiny generators which emit 10,000 times more dangerous pollitants than whatever a coal plant can emit. This is just common sense, we must first walk before we start thinking of how to run. Even the industralised and developed who have all the money are not yet leaving coal power even for the next 50 years, yet you want a crippled child to jump and run faster.

nku5:
So you have agreed that GEJ set funds aside for 2NB and that there is an international airport in Enugu.

I am satisfied

Of course he paid a fraction of the required counterpart fund of the FG, that isnt news. You are however making it sound like he 'set aside' or 'provided' the full funds for the bridge; if that was the case, the bridge would have since been completed.

Effects of the skyrocketing exchange rate... God help this country.

The CBN/FG should look for a way to properly float the currency. With black market price at N475 and interbank at around N310, we are back to exactly the same point we were when dubious individuals received forex from CBN/banks, hoarded the forex (to increase the price by speculations) and then return to the black market to sell same.

nku5:
1. SHUO! He put more than 50% of the FG's share of the funding for the project. Is that not money set aside to ensure consummation of the project? Abi you dont understand the nature of the 2NB? Read up-

"According to the NSIA, the Nigerian government has so far disbursed N18.3 billion of her N30 billion commitment to the project"

2. Is there or is there not a functional international airport with cargo facilities? Na wa to you o!

"First cargo plane lands at Enugu Airport
ON August 24, 2016 6:30 AM
ENUGU—The first cargo plane yesterday landed at the Akanu Ibiam International Airport in Enugu.
The landing of the Ethiopian Airline Boeing 757 cargo plane was witnessed by an enthusiastic crowd and other dignitaries including Governor Ifeanyi Ugwuanyi."

If you go back and read further news reports on the 2NB, it says only about N10bn was actually released in 2014 out of the 'disbursed' N18.3bn; about N4.4bn was the amount that had already been spent previously for consultancy and other stuff (this N4.4bn bit doesn't seem to be part of the N30bn which is FG's counterpart share). The part of your story I didnt get was where you said "funds had been set aside which is enough to build the bridge if this government is interested in applying them," you made it sound like the full funds required for building the entire bridge had been provided and kept in a special safe somewhere but that the new govt isn't interested in completing the project. Meanwhile about N15bn or N17bn (not sure of exact amount) was budgeted this year to offset part of the counterpart funding too.

As for Enugu airport, yes the airport was upgraded and that is commendable, but remember that whatever was done in the enugu airport was also done in Kano, lagos and Abuja, so why exactly should this upgrade be a substitution for important things like the Onitsha-Enugu road repair?

Meanwhile in the euphoria of the development, half of the money meant for the real structural upgrade (runway repairs and expansion etc) developed wings and flew away (or probably was never released). There's a reason why major airlines are still avoiding the airport, and its not because of a 'conspiracy' or 'gang-up' by 'enemy tribes' as many people allege and believe. The reason is cos the standards (infrastructure) haven't really been upgraded yet (except on paper).

nku5:
For one thing he gave SE industries a good deal of support by encouraging the likes of Innoson to key into his automotive industry policies. Even gave consent to Airforce to service our planes. Imagine the boost to the capacity of the industry

Made sure Enugu Airport was gazetted as international and is now equipped for cargo. Sotay we can now export vegetables

Second Niger Bridge funds he set aside can build the bridge if this government is interested in applying them

A few others I cant recall now

Sometimes i wonder where some people churn out these strange arguments from. Which money was set aside for Niger bridge?.... N10bn out of the required N130billion in 2014, is that what you mean by money set aside for Niger bridge?... Not even a dime was budgeted for the bridge in 2015 budget hence the project was abandoned in 2015 and contractors left the site (with ignorant and evil people spreading rumours that BUHARI has stopped the project).

Enugu airport which was recertified was eventually used as a conduit pipe to steal billions. Of the tens of billions purportedly released for the project, the runway still has numerous potholes because the moneys were swallowed; airlines like Emirates have bluntly refused to bring their planes anywhere close to the Enugu runway because of this very runway. Meanwhile, hope yu are aware that whatever was done for the enugu airport, more was done for other main airports across the country (kano, abuja, lagos etc) so i still don't get how this enugu airport keeps being repeated as a favour GEJ did to Igbos.

Would be nice if you can remember those 'few others' cos it would be interesting to know what they are.

Considering that the delay in constituting a cabinet and the delay in getting the 2016 budget approved is blamed as one of the reasons behind the mess in the economy, I am yet to see any single person in this thread who can explain what exactly is wrong with the government planning early enough for 2017.

PDP being paid back in their own coin.. Karma is a bi***

Useless politicians and childish politics..

sarrki:
Pls bro Gej is a total failure

Tell me one project you can point to while he was governor ?

While he was the president can anyone tell me any project he commissioned in the entire south?

We can see obiano working

"Tree near tree na wetin make monkey dey smart"

The above proverb relates to Obi and Obiano. No doubt, Obiano is doing fine, but the reason he's doing fine is cos Obi totally laid the foundation. Obi deserves all the commendation he gets, Obiano today is reaping the fruits of Obi's efforts. After the exit of Mbadinuju, Anambra has been blessed with good governors.

TPAND:
I must apologize for losing my cool, but when you come out attacking my person, you leave me no choice. What some persons forget is, everyone claim bragging rights to their opinions. You should follow the trail of why I let loose and see it was called for that time

Apology accepted... Like you said, everyone has a right to their opinion on these things; I am a realist and not an idealist. I believe that no matter how careful and wonderful parents may be, children being children sometimes would still go beyond their assigned boundaries.

I was once a kid and a teenager, and no matter how strict and wonderful my parents were, I know I did overstep my assigned boundaries sometimes because it was impossible for my parents or teachers to have their eyes on my 100% of the time. I can only thank God that I suffered no major misfortune through those years but even if such ever happened, I believe it would be totally out of place for anyone to blame my parents for that.

The point i have simply tried to pass on to you is that it is totally wrong of you to judge the parents of these 2 boys who lost their lives because you do not even know the parent. and you don't know the full story.

DesChyko:
I just can't understand. While we were kids under our parents, we knew how we managed to upset their rules despite strict monitoring. It's a wonder how a person as a parent could easily forget that. It's just to pray as a parent that anythinh close to such doesn't befall one because as a parent; you can never ever be too careful. I've learnt this firsthand; despite all careful planninh and organization, even a right move can turn out to be one's undoing.

Even with several people calmly trying to make him see reason, he still sticks to his guns about being omniscient in the topic of good parenting; he also believes so much in his monopoly of wisdom in parenting. There's really no point engaging further with such a character, it's a hopeless effort.

TPAND:
I hate reading comments from pathetic inexperienced D-list lowlifes. "You sound so cretin in your comment" pray to God so such tragedy first befall you. Really! You expect me to use someone's misfortune and cataclysm as my own point of prayer. What do they preach in your church!

Damn!

Religion has flopped with the cerebral prowess of many persons in this country. Pagans raise successful kids, kids that are humble and obedient, listen and responsible. Pastors raise rascals. So pastors are not praying enough.

You sound so dumb I can't even think of words to reply you. All my mind is like really. No wonder Nigeria is still these backward, the most populous foolish people in the world. Sit there and be praying to God not to let you experience tragedy with your kids, instead of working towards it. Neglect your kids and pray to God to take care of them for you! So myopic. It is dumb persons like you that come to this thread and type R.I.P to an underage. If you don't have anything to say, just keep shut.

First of all, I see no reason why you have lost decorum and resorted to all sorts of insults and abusive words; I thought irrational outbursts like this were an exclusive reserve of the Nairaland POLITICS' section. But Going through your comments again, it is obvious that this is all you have upstairs and this is all you are made of; such a shame.

There's no point engaging further with an unstable, self-righteous bigot. I agree with you, you win!!! every parent that has suffered a tragedy is a bad parent that shouldn't have been allowed to be parents in the first place. All such parents should take lessons from TPAND.

TPAND:
You will be a bad parent. With this comment you just made, I can tell how reckless you will be in parenting. what kind of parent would I be to let my child drown in a swimming pool let alone in the lagoon. Do you understand the gravity of this carelessness on the path of these young children parents. Take a look at the picture of those kids, would you allow your younger ones go to lagoon to play if they were same age as those kids.

What kind of a generation is this for crying out loud.

Are you a parent?.... Whether yes or no, the only advice I have for you is to pray fervently to God to never let you experience anything close to such a tragedy. More often than not, things like this (children sneaking out of the house) are totally beyond our powers as mere humans and it has absolutely nothing to do with good/bad parenting. There is no way even the best parent in this world would tie a leash around the neck of a 14 year old to monitor every single move he makes outside the gates. You however brag to be a very responsible, possibly omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent parent whom such a thing can never happen to; so who am I to doubt you?

From your very harsh and insensitive judgemental tone however, I actually believe you are just as naive as they come. Once again my advice for you is to pray that such tragedy never comes close to your quarters, cos the pain of judgemental strangers judging your parenting isn't something you would like to experience.

TPAND:
Do you have a problem with my comment? It is actually not for everyone. Only parents not teenagers

I'm neither of the two... But then, your comment is obviously not for normal people... Parents are normal people, and there's no way normal people can possibly keep their eyes on their kids for every single second. I pray a similar fate doesn't befall you, cos I wonder how you would feel if people who have no clue about who you are come online to run their mouths about what a careless parent you are.

Izonpikin:
when buharis said he wants to fight corruption I laughed...how would buhari deal with senators and governors??...without a restructuring of some sort we are only decieving ourselves...


Please obailala tell me how buhari wants to fight this kind of corruption??..

Where is magu with his oily gorimakpa?where is the efcc??

My brother, the NASS is one monster that cannot be touched. The only way to cleanse the NASS is by mob action.

TPAND:
When God gives children to careless, undeserving and lackadaisical parents, this is what happens to their wards.

Why don't we have child services in this country, they should prosecute cases as this in our country. This is 3rd degree Murder.

Nda Chioma is an ugly soul. I object to the description of recklessness on the part of a parent as fine soul

Are you sure you are okay?

That place called NASS should be nuked.

Mama P is obviously shining better than before; the beauty of retirement.

easzypeaszy:
hey! chaiii! pls wch country r u...abbi ur lif bin dey stagnant u jst wakin up...i guess so

The momentum in agriculture has not gone down... We are still not anywhere close to food sufficiency though..

TPAND:
Jonathan laid a good economic diversification plan through agriculture. It's a shame Buhari could not carry on the legacies of GEJ. GEJ was not all that bad. His corrupt cabinet performed better than the stainless cabinet of Buhari

Jonathan's agric policies have largely been sustained and agric output has increased. So I think you are wrong here.

Quite funny observing how the PDP miscreants are being paid back in their own coin... Anyway, both candidates weren't inspiring one bit, so congrats to the winner as the journey continues.