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dialfa:
May I urge you to jump into the lagoon after raping your mom

I wasnt talking to you.

PassingShot:
The word "probe" gives some people goose bumps.
Probe is another word for investigation and the intention is to find out what has been wrong (if any) with a view to correct (where possible) and prevent reoccurrence.
In this particular one, the intention is clearly stated but the word "probe" has made some to become so agitated.

Very serious headache

Not a single probe has commenced yet these lovers and defenders of thieves are about to die of cardiac arrest; even before the probes starts, they are already 99% sure that their heroes must be guilty, that is the only explanation for all these oppositions and protests against probes.

adconline:
By "urging"them not to defend alleged corrupt folks he's implying that he doesn't want a fair trial.. Being denied access to a lawyer tantamounts Kangaroo court of justice..
Folks like u don't get that we elected as the executive president not Chief Justice of Naija. He should stop making statement that might undermine legality of his actions.. The job of the GMB is to build a team that will mount an air-tight case against alleged folks, but they must have their day in court. GMB should stop playing the judge and jury in his case!!

...and since when has 'urging' someone to do something be come a 'command'?

adconline:
because APC partisan brigands like don't know that Naija constituion guarantees a fair hearing and upholds that everyone is innocent until proven guilt.
Also, GMB cannot be executive and judiciary at the same time.. This is constitutional democracy no matter how imperfect it might be!

Do you know the meaning of the word 'urge' as used in the report?

...and I asked a question earlier, what do you lovers and defenders of thieves/oppresors gain from defending the same set of people who have rendered your nation a 3rd world slum?

DaBullIT:
A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS

Op those are official interbank rates. The problem is with the black market rates.

Wailers making a fool of themselves everyday and everywhere; since when has it become a honorable thing to defend thieves?

...and for the Op of this thread, what is despotic about urging lawyers not to defend dubious characters who have impoverished Nigerians and kept us backwards for decades.

obayaya:
Obasanjo administration was "punitive".. yet it didn't stop corruption... infact corruption was on the increase while we all basked in the euphoria of the arrest and prosecutions made on the surface.

But did that discourage people from engaging in corrupt practices? No. Why? Because the arrest were just some deceptive media show.. It's just like killing a goat that ate yam in front of the farm owners to deceive them that you're effective, while a thousand other goats are devouring yams like it's nobody's business in the backyard.

The best way is to build strong systems. A system that makes corruption difficult or impossible. A system that detects corruption automatically and is strong enough to punish the offenders.

That's the system in place in all the developed countries.

And who told you OBJ's administration was punitive?.... arresting a person and releasing the person on bail and squashing the case after money has changed hands, is that what you call punitive?

Name the people who were convicted and sentenced to proper jail terms under OBJ?

obayaya:
Considering that all goats whether old or young, foreign or local will always eat yam, will you kill off all the goats on the planet?

China has developed strong institutions.. those institutions are their way of keeping the goats away from the yam. That's what we need to focus on first..

When we must have successfully built these strong institutions, any goats that trespasses can be murdered or tied as the case may be..

Why are you guys always so defensive when it comes to punishing people for impoverishing the nation?... As long as there are no punitive measures, no matter how powerful your systems are, no matter how strong or high the gates are that protect the treasury, as long as there are no punitive measures for attempting to break in, the thieves will keep trying their luck until they get access to the treasure. This is common sense and I have absolutely no idea why any normal person would even think of arguing about this.

kernel501:
Sinless Yoruba tribe go and probe Fashola for using N176 million to update a site or expariate your Ogun state Drug senate.
How did Obasanjo send $16 billion to improve power yet he couldn't add 1000 MW, you think we are fools, right?

And this senselessness of myopic tribalism continues to get even more disgusting.... How on earth did we degenerate into this fuckery where anyone who complains of corruption must be termed yoruba?... So are you suggesting that no Igbo man has a right to be reasonable without being labelled an outcast?... Where is your common sense?.. what sort of calamity has befallen my tribesmen?

obayaya:
And which of the 2 strategies do you think is more effective?

If you flog a goat from now till next year and you still keep him together with the yam, he'll still eat the yam. So the wisest thing to do is to keep the goat away from the yam

Lol.. Permit me to re-word my original statement regarding flogging the goat, "Tie the freaking goat"

That's what they do in civilised countries which makes them to have a lower prevalence of graft. Some countries even go ahead to slaughter the goat instantly for peppersoup e.g. China. Tell me why I would be discouraged from stealing when I know fully well that the worst consequence if I'm caught is for me to return a part of the stolen funds?

cuteboy2:
Femi Falana (SAN) dwelt not only on the effective Abacha loot recovery, he also elaborated extensively on the laws he put in place to strenghthen the hands of DPP and anti-corruption agencies to successfully prosecute corrupt officials.

Though Falana did not touch on this, via the e-purse, Jonathan effectively ended the perennial fertilizer scam in which Nigeria lost billions every year, and successive govts were incapable of doing anything about it because powerful emirs and prominent Nigerians were all involved. Adesina Akinwumni (former Agric Minister under GEJ) can provide more details.

GEJ's fault is that he needed to also publicly prosecute and make an example of corrupt officials. In fighting corruption in Nigeria, symbolism is very important. In our current national psyche and thinking, these symbolism are even more important than the substance itself. Nigerians relate more to fear factor in obeying the law.

There are 2 approaches to fighting corruption:
1. GEJ's goat and yam theory where systems are put in place to prevent thieves from getting close to the funds.
2. Flogging the goat for eating the yam.

For corruption to be effectively fought in a country like Nigeria where indiscipline and impunity reigns supreme, both number 1 and 2 have to be applied. GEJ failed because he attempted only number 1.

9jatatafo:
I am waiting patiently for the human and corruption environmental sanitation being carried out by PMB. We all want good for this country but in a situation where PMB thinks he is the only saint then that is dictatorship. How could you tell me that all the lawyers nominated for the special court for looters all failed integrity test? My friend think very well.

The report says 'majority' and not 'all,' kindly go back and read with your glasses this time. Besides, why should anyone be surprised at such a development?.... Are you nee to Nigeria?

cuteboy2:
Femi Falana on Channels TV shocks the usually APC sympathetic Sunrise crew of Maupe, Aledeh and Chamberlain Usoh, by giving facts and figures that GEJ govt recorded the highest and most successful loot recovery in the world by getting back over $1.3billion from the Abacha family.

Tune in. It's on now live.

How does retrieving the loot of a long dead man translate into fighting corruption?

As a matter of fact, for Falana to point out recovery of abacha loot as GEJ's only effort at fighting corruption, he's actually mocking GEJ.

9jatatafo:
Show me one saint in Nigeria be it a christian, muslim or traditional worshipper and I will show you a 50 years old lady that is a virgin. Nonsense, even PMB is corrupt. APC and their propaganda..

So because you believe PMB is also corrupt, so therefore we should not make any attempt to clean the corruption in our system?... or probably we should wait for Jesus to leave his throne to come down and help us fight corruption before you would support the fight right?

Why can we just be patriotic or optimistic for once in our lives?... Ask yourself this question deep down in your heart, are you happy with the way things are in your country?

LongPennis:
Since everybody is failing integrity test in Nigeria, let buhari be the president, minister and judge too naa.

What kind of nonsense is this sef? Are all Nigerians daft?

Saint buhari indeed.

Vicadonis:
Buhari should man all the courts since he is the only Nigerian with integrity...

fitzmayowa:
Since everybody is failing integrity test i wonder who will be clean/saint enough to work with PMB, am beginning to see the so called "integrity" test as ploy to give nigerians excuses for non performance...SMH

simeonii:
PMB should head the Legislative, Executive and Judiciary........seems he's the only one that can't fail the integrity test in Nigeria.

Why would anyone even wish evil for his/her own country?....Are you guys really happy with the status-quo?

Since I was born, I've always known Nigeria to be an extremely corrupt nation of which all sectors have been infiltrated; the executive, the legislative, the judiciary, the military, the police, the educational system just name it. We all know that all sectors in Nigeria have been corrupted over the years and this has led to our economic and social stagnation and backwardness. Even the judiciary we talk about now is the very same judiciary we have always complained about for years of being extremely compromised.

Now for the first time in our lives, we have an old man who is making an 'attempt' to clean the system a bit for our collective betterment, and here we are, mocking and mocking and mocking the old man and his ideas.

Please my people, this is no longer a case of politics of GEJ vs APC anymore. Why can't we kindly put politics aside for just one second?

Rich4god:
The source alone tells you how credible the news is.... can we actually progress with all these propaganda flying around...

There's actually a difference between propaganda and pure undiluted foolishness. It's a pity Igbos have now turned themselves into a national nuisance all because of GEJ.

Duru1:
You are a dunce for asking such a stupid question. Is Jonathan not a Nigerian? Nigeria's fund belongs to Nigerians, dummy.

OMG!... how can a normal human being even reason like this?

What do you mean by what you have just said?... that because Jonathan is a Nigerian and FG money belongs to Nigerians, so therefore there is nothing wrong if Jonathan or anyone else corners the entire funds meant for the entire society?

How did Igbos reduce themselves to this mess all because of the Ijaw man?.... Please stop embarassing us. Tufia!

Why are roads hardly ever marked in Nigeria?.... why would a contractor spend millions in building a road but can't spend a few thousands to buy some white paint to mark the freakin roads?
www.nairaland.com/attachments/2773793_20150822124547_jpeg40da0d9eb25cfcfbd998894380cdf5be

Happiness87:
i knew this was coming, lagos number one on the list

that's why APC wanted power, so that they can waive their debts

Are you okay?

adconline:
FG is absolving indebted states of responsibility and at the same time approved $75m for Oshiomole to waste. FG is encouraging profligacy and wastefulness. Oil prices have fallen below $40 and these governors are going to be broke again in 6 month. GMB is spending money he doesn't have bailing politicians that contributed to his elections. Capital budget is at all time-low and we are bailing out spendthrift governors

It was an economically 'expedient' move. If things got out of hand, it's ordinary Nigerians that would suffer it and as usual, Nigerians will always blame the FG and not the wasteful governors; that is not to say I'm holding brief for the profligate governors though. Do not forget however that this is not debt forgiveness.

I just cant help but imagine Alex Badeh or Gen Minimah leading the war in the forest. Just imagine a bomb lands and everyone starts running, it would be a sight to behold seeing those niggas run in the bush with their pregnancies.

adconline:
So if states are longer indebted to the banks, who are they indebted to?? If the FG is bailing them out, doesn't it mean FG is absorbing the loans and passing the risk to all Nigerians? Doesn't it mean that the FG is increasing its debt to GDP ratio without commensurate capital inflow to our national economy? It's like your brother owes a bank and the bank comes to collect their payment, your brother is unable to pay and u step in and tell the bank let him off the hook and transfer the loan to ur name, if u default on that loan the bank will come after u not ur brother!

The most important point to note is, the states are still in debt and would still have to pay back. Using the term 'DEBT FORGIVENESS' is misleading.

[size=15pt]Debt restructuring is not debt forgiveness and the states involved are not secret.

The title of this thread is deliberately misleading.[/size]

The MODs should do something about this title if this thread must make the frontpage else, Nigerians in their usual laziness to read will just rely on the wrong title and start making silly assumptions.

By the way, the 11 states involved are:
Osun State - N88.6 billion
Delta – N69.8 billion
Ogun – N55.4 billion
Imo – N37.1 billion
Ekiti – N18.8 billion
Kwara – N15.6 billion
Edo – N11.9 billion
Benue – N10.9 billion
Oyo – N9.1 billion
Bauchi – N6.5 billion
Kogi – N0.81 billion.

moshino:
First, If you assume that I insulted you, then you must have completely missed the point, or you're ultra emotional, sensitive and have no appreciation of facts.

And your postulations above still begs the questions - What verifiable facts do you have to support the premise of your accusations? And how do you come to the conclusion that Igbos will be held to ransom by being charged a toll fee? You're assuming that only Igbos have been using the existing bridge, and will be the only ones to use the 2nd one, when built. You're also saying that payment of toll gate fee anywhere amounts to holding people to ransom. None of your theories make any sense. People other than Igbos have been using the existing bridge, and will continue to use any new bridge. Toll fee is added to transportation cost, and these costs are in turn added to the cost of goods, and is paid by the final consumer. The Niger bridge is a major connecting transit route for goods and services all around Nigeria and beyond, needless to point out that people other tan Igbos use that bridge also to get to different destinations within and outside Igbo states. There're many Igbo people who have never been on that bridge, just as there are many hausas, yorubas etc who use the bridge every week. If you get out of your comfort zone and familiarize yourself with the rest of your country, you'll very easily learn this fact.

Please what exactly are you talking about in this your long epistles?

99% of people who use the niger bridge are Igbos and with the 2nd Niger bridge being tolled for 25 years, 99% of the people paying these tolls are going to be Igbos. So once again I ask, what kind of diversion are you trying to create with this your long epistle?

jmoore:
What is the difference between first lady and wife of the president?

[size=14pt]The difference between the FIRST LADIES of the past and the present designation which is 'WIFE OF THE PRESIDENT' is that there would no longer be any budgetary allocations to the office.

For God's sake my fellow Nigerians, what is too difficult to understand in this simple matter?.... 4 pages already gone on this thread and yet no one seems to have figured this out?[/size]

OfoIgbo:
Here you are forcing words I to my moith. Where did I write that GEJ was excellent?
I will continue to say it till THY KINGDOM COME that Yorubas prefer Mumu-hammadu Buhari, a dictator to GEJ, just because he is from the SS.

Getting to your other point with regards to OBJ
1. Corruption. Halliburton scandal is still looming. Also OBJ was the minister of Petroleum in much of his presidency. One of these days, his tenure will be investigated and we will see how pious he was in power

2. Security. OBJ allowed Sharia to flourish in northern states, which led to the Boko Haram that the northern establishment used to undermine GEJ.

3. Economy. Nigeria was recognised as the largsst economy in Africa. OBJ did not record that in the 70swhen he was the military dictator. He did not record it as a civilian president, even though I know he must have done his best, and probably would have attained that feat if he had carried on.

4. Odi and Benue massacres were carried outnin OBJ's govt

For you to claim that GEJ made Nigeria the biggest economy in Africa, I already understand the IQ class you fall under. Hence, i do not wish to continue this argument.

patrick89:
The only problem we have in igbo nation is people that reason and act like you.

Igbo man doesn't plan beyond one year! and you are doing that now, you are thinking about your property and wealth..

Do you know how blacks suffer in America? The situation they are in today was as a result the mistake of the past.

Have you extrapolated your mind into next 50 years and how your generation will cope in this hate filled, lopsided, Nd never do well country?

Do you know how many of igbo people have been disenchanted due to all these evil act?

You know absolutely nothing about your people, you write like someone that has his brain washed by a typical yoruba person...

I'm sure you live in lagos, and you think you can see nigeria through median..

You will simply be reasoning like a kid if you assume our problems would be solved automatically the moment we create a thick border blocking us from the rest of Nigerians. Sadly, that is what majority of Igbo youths have been brainwashed to believe, and we are too lazy to reason out of the box.

There is no doubt that Igbo youths have been brainwashed senselessly to believe that Yorubas are our problem and it shocks me that we dont bother to question this fallacy; no assumption could be more stupid, but sadly, that is the case of millions of igbo youths today including yourself.

If there is any ethnic group that has advertised more hate than any other in recent times, it is the Igbos and that is certainly a recipe for disaster.

And yeah, I have never lived in the SW or in the same house with a south westerner. But my reasoning is way beyond the level where I just swallow whatever everyone around me believes/says, just like Igbo youths like yourself who cant think out of the box.

OfoIgbo:
First of all, Yorubas did not at all give GEJ 90% of their votes in 2011. The voting pattern in Yoruba dominated states was aroun 55-60% for Jonathan, and it was this high especially in Lagos mainly because of Igbo votes.
In actual fact Yorubas in Lagos probably gave GEJ about 20% of their votes, but Igbo votes took it over the 50% threshold because about 99% of Igbos in Lagos voted for GEJ in 2011.
Of course, I imagine that about 10-15% of Yorubas voted for him in Lagos in 2015.

Btw GEJ was far better than OBJ as a president and a democrat. But Yorubas did not mind voting for OBJ in 2003 without nominating a candidate for Alliance of Democracy.
So basically right from the onset Yorubas were always against GEJ, it's just that the Igbo votes masked this in 2011.

The bottomline remains that Yorubas preferred a northern brute and illegal dictator who deserves to be rotting away in some unmarked grave, to a fellow southerner, whose only offence was his naivety and indecisiveness, coupled with the fact that the northern establishment promised to make his regime ungovernable, and yet the Yorubas joined in making the government of this poor man ungovernable, showing no iota of understanding for his plight....Bokoharam and all

All these extra labels you all are attaching to him is simply a case of giving a dog a bad name before hanging it.

Anyway, I cannot forget 28th march and I am pretty sure Ssoutherners won't be forgetting it in a jiffy. History is always important as it helps one to make more informed decisions in the future.

Quit deluding yourself.... The 2011 election results are still online for you to go and review.

GEJ was better than OBJ?.. and i ask, in terms of what exactly?.... Is it security, or the economy or corruption?....

Anyway, sampling opinions both locally and internationally, it's only Igbos that think GEJ was an excellent leader. So please, let's just forget about this argument, the last thing I would want to do right now is to ruin my peaceful saturday arguing with an Igbo man about GEJ's performance.

Have a lovely weekend.

Iamsynord:
These are acts are widely termed publicity stunts by most critics and music lovers ,the truth or otherwise and the intent of these actions is only known to the artiste that carried it out and God.

1) Skibii Mayana- Five Star Music Act Skibii mayana allegedly collapsed and died as confirmed by the manager. Soso soberokon ,only to supposedly ressurect back and recovering in an hospital in what as been termed the Skibii Death Stunt .The Act received back lash from a Lot of Fans and Music pundits.


2) Adokiye- During The Heat of the Bring back our girls campaign in Nigeria,23 years old pop Singer and Self acclaimed Virgin .adokiye in an interview with the vanguard offered to give her Virginity to the boko Haram members in exchange for the girls. God knows it might have been the juiciest News of the year if Boko haram had accepted the offer and trust Nigerians ,She may eventually have to retract her words.

www.metro.co.uk/2014/06/28/brave-or-shameless-pr-stunt-nigerian-singer-offers-virginity-to-boko-haram-in-exchange-for-kidnapped-schoolgirls-4778925/



3) kSolo- After music producer and musician allegedly battered his Wife, kikelomo and pictures of her Swolen face went viral on the net,the Couple appeared on Channels Tv and claimed the whole bruises on her face and gadget destroyed were publicity stunt.
One may wonder why out of all the possible stunts they could carry out,The couple decided to play the battery and Beating of wife stunt to grab people's attention.

www.nairaland.com/1030508/k-solo-wife-fight-publicity-stunt

4) Psquare - After the Supposed Brawl between The Okoye Brothers threatened to tear the Square empire apart,their publicist ,Bayo Adetu in an interview with Icon Weekly magazine claimed the whole Issue was just a well thought out publicity stunt.Again ,one wonders why such a stunt should be employed as some fans were already taking sides on which of the brothers to follow if the break up pulled through .

www.nigeria.gounna.com/show/show/153416/1

5) Charly Boy- We all know the Area Father for his many stunts and Controversy .However one of is many stunts that cannot go unnoticed is the viral picture of him kissing Denrele Edun.Though They have claimed Photoshop and many other things, it is crystal clear that the Publicity stunt was a Very dangerous one and till date many have labelled the two acts as Gays.

www.stargist.com/news/these-photos-of-me-charlyboy-kissing-were-photoshopped-denrele/

written and Compiled by Iamsynord

Only a dumbhead wouldn't have realised the charlie boy-denrele pics was photoshopped (prolly by a blogger). How can somthing be a publicity stunt when the characters concerned arent even involved or aware?

zendy:
Listen man, I'm an Igbo man. I would definitely want true federalism as would all of Southern Nigeria. But the reality is that true federalism can only come by way of a sovereign national conference or if it is passed at the National Assembly. The North has perished any thought about a sovereign conference. When it comes to th National Assembly, the North have more delegates. A federal structure bill will need 2/3ds vote to pass. So how will be done? You think a northerner will vote for it when he finds out it will mean that people from the Niger-Delta will get as much 50% of their oil and Gas money while decreasing the revenue coming to the north? Face reality, regionalism isn't ever coming back.

The only people opposed to regionalism is the core north, the north central states arent even bothered and would be happy to break away from the domination of the hausa-fulani mafia. If the entire SW, SE, SS and north central agrees to unite in that fight, there's nothing the core north can do. It is not impossible!

OfoIgbo:
The foolishness of the south manifested itself on 28th March 2015, when Yorubas opted for a dictator, just because their son will be vice president.

The SS and SE clearly voted for restructuring on that day. Yes, we knew GEJ was acting like a rookie while he was the president and his wife compounded his issues, but at least out of the two main contenders, he was more amenable to issues regarding the restructuring of Nigeria.

Perhaps the vice president that the SW wanted so badly should work on restructuring Nigeria from within.

28th March was a landmark date. Yorubas made their choice and they were fully informed. Instead they chose to use their media to run down only SS president that Nigeria has ever produced, thus throwing away the baby and the bathwater.

Presently the SE and SS are consolidating their partnership and brotherliness and we are happy with that. Only committed people are needed and both zones have shown their sincerity towards a restructured Nigeria or TO YOUR TENTS OH ISRAEL.

Please forget the issue of March 28th, GEJ was a failure of a leader, the SW had absolutely nothing to gain from GEJ so they were under no obligation to vote for him. And while you may want to erroneously accuse the SW of voting PMB because of his vice, may I remind you of 2 things:
1. A yoruba man was also Buharis vice in 2011 but 90% of SW still voted for Jonathan.
2. Almost half (45%) of the SW voted for GEJ in the last election so it would be unfair and myopic to just generalise that the entire SW voted a dictator. As a matter of fact, the reason more south-westerners are even supporting buhari today is because of the reaction of the Igbos after the election, i.e. the way the SE has continually thrown insults and preached hate messages against them.

Also, have you ever wondered why the middle-belt which voted massively for GEJ in 2011 decided to switch to Buhari in 2015?... The answer is simple, GEJ wasn't a good leader (even though only the Igbos were blind to this). For the middle belt and SW, the last election had absolutely nothing to do with tribe, if PDP had fielded any other person from the Niger delta, there is absolutely no way the old dictator would have smelt victory.

And finally, regarding the restructuring, I could stake my life that there was absolutely no way GEJ was going to make any move in that direction. So for what reason exactly should the SW have voted GEJ?