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Eze Promoe: Odum, achom ichi ichie. By 30th, agam abu the youngest ichie na bem.

I ga na-eso ndi okenye be gi na-eli ife na eme-enjoy (gbahalu Engligbo m) na-eliju afo lol.

Welu ya nwayo.

CAMEROONPRIDE: MOD FRONT PAGE PLEASE

How would I have seen this front page request If I didn't click on this thread? We have a system set up to take care of this but no one seems to be taking advantage of it, so I think it needs to be enforced.

Please repost your front page request on this thread if you want it to be officially considered. I apologize for any inconveniences.

https://www.nairaland.com/1004554/promoting-culture-board-frontpage

So far Ifyalways is the only person that has been nominated.

More nominations people, let's make this thing interesting!

I asked myself this question recently. The other day, I attended a mass service in a small suburb in the United States and as I took a look at the mass program, I saw, clearly written, Fr. C. Anyanwu. For some reason, I chuckled to myself.

Anyway, I think the reason why we Igbo are so widespread is because our culture(s) place(s) a high value on personal achievement and self-worth. Therefore, we all try our best to succeed and "make it" even if it means traveling thousands of miles from our hometowns in search of opportunities that would be otherwise unavailable to us.

LOL

A bat perching among eagles.

Abagworo and Antivirus, don't you think the "Oye Eboe" mentioned in that paragraph is actually referring to "Oyibo"?

But then again, the Aro were called "Bekee mbu", but at the same time, they came from the east [of Oluada's region] and not the south west.

mbatuku2: I think it's related. Anyway, I hope it's discussed at another time.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't discuss it. I just didn't see how Ngwa being considered Igbo or not relates to this particular discussion. If you think that it does, then you are more than welcomed to seize the opportunity.

mbatuku2: I've always said on this subject, there are obviously the original igbo people who called themselves igbo from time immemorial. Go to their towns, you find the term 'igbo' fully reflected in the names.

My ngwa people did not refer to themselves as igbo until the whiteman came to classify them as such. This is also reflected in the names of our towns and villages like itu ngwa, aba ngwa, etc.

The fact remains that the key elements of igbo are clearly missing in ngwa. Though, quite a number of ngwas may today identify themselves with igbo, but not everyone likes such classification.

This is an entirely different discussion.

Eze Promoe: M ga-ala i je were my third title.

Kedu udi title o bu? I gaje ichi Ozo ka o bu Nze?

BlackPikin nwa mama,
Ify gwara m si I ga-alu nwaanyi na Desemba, o bu na-ezi?

Odenigbo Aroli: You also said you were gonna run tracks at the next olympic games.

The boy guy get ambition.

Let the royal rumble continue.

Antivirus92: we all know that ur stay in nairaland is a very controversial one. You don't agree to what people say and nobody agrees to what you say either. So we are not suprise.

I don't know why but I find the conflict between you and Chinenye extremely hilarious. You guys are like fire and water.

The word Chukwu didn't originate from Aro. It's just that Aro exploits popularized it throughout ali Igbo because the portal to God's face (Ibini Ukpabi) is located in Aro. The term Chukwu Abiama (short for Chukwu a bia mara nke wu eziokwu) was also popularized by the Aro.

Afam, you'll need to be fairly popular not only in your ward but in all the communities that constitute your LGA. In addition to this, you will need to have a good reputation supplemented with an open and generous hand. I would suggest you organize yourself and plan out how you intend to rise up gradually.

Igbo uzo, unu a ga-alota kwa na Desemba afo a?

Nri, umu Umuoji ga-acho gi Desemba a.
Pres-elect na Toshmann, ndi Mbano nnaa kwa.
Chinenye, ala Ngwa ga aju m ajuju gi Desemba a kwa.

Igbo niile ekele m unu o. Chukwu nonyere unu na ihe niile unu ga-eme na atutu Desemba.

ifyalways: A lot going on in nld now. It might make more sense if we shift this to next year.

I think that's the best option; this is the time of year when people are very busy. However, I will leave this thread open for more suggestions as we work our way towards it. If all things go right, I look forward to having this early next year.

Ogas and Madams,

I, as your humble moderator, would like to formally announce that it is once again time for us to nominate the the "Culture Section Poster of the Year". Last year, our two-time consecutive winner, Ifyalways, took the crown, closely followed by Andre Uweh and PhysicsED. With many new faces and personalities among us this year, who will snatch the honor?

Rules:

1. Only 1 nomination per person.

2. Any nominee that has been banned or warned this year will be disqualified.

3. A moderator cannot be nominated in his/her section but may be nominated in other sections.

4. Nominee must be active in the section.

5. Nominee must be forum rule-abiding and not a trouble-maker (passionate defence of one's opinions is not considered trouble-making).

6. Top 3 nominees will be up for poll for another 2 weeks; the winner will be announced at the expiration of the voting.

7. In the event of a tie, the mod reserves the right to either choose one or extend the nomination/voting by 24 hours.


NOMINATION ends on December 14, 2011
VOTING starts December 15, 2011 and ends December 29 when the winner will be announced.

azpekuliar: Mod, kindly consider the thread below for the front page. Thanks.

https://www.nairaland.com/1054627/why-people-wear-aso-ebi

No problem, next time please post this in the appropriate thread.

stillwater: Yeah. I found another picture. I got it from here. http://ndebe..com/2009/08/history-1-meet-your-very-recent.html

[img]http://4.bp..com/_QVW98iGMXHI/SoG1lsAKBjI/AAAAAAAAJYc/nqhXj4Jmx7E/s400/igbo+girl+wedding.jpg[/img]



Lol

Nice. I just wish we had more pictures of our ancestors from back then.

Antivirus92: but i have read and heard about the first igbo group that the europeans met on their arrival in igboland. They told the whites that they speak igbo language. Btw odumchi, what do u think the answer to ur question should be? Are you insunuating that the europeans founded the word "igbo"?

I'll answer your question with this:

"Igbo" was never the name of any group of people. "Igbo" was in actuality the categorical name given to the collection of very similar languages spoken by the different peoples who occupy the stretch of land west of the Edo, east of the Ibibio, south of the Igala and Idoma, and north of the Ijo peoples. What people sometimes fail to understand is that the original understanding of the word "Igbo" differs from that which we have today.

Like I've stated many times already, it was a language cluster. For this reason, if you were to journey to Onicha (or any other town, for that matter) in the year 1700 and ask a native what people he was from, he would tell you "Onicha" and not "Igbo" because the term "Igbo" only applied when discussing its members as a whole. If you were to ask him the origin of his town [Onicha], he would say "Ezechima" and point westward. If you were to ask him who his people's neighbors were, he would just describe them indescriminately by saying "Fa bu ndi Igbo" (meaning: they are Igbo-speaking peoples). But about his own people, he would say "Mana anyi aburo Igbo, anyi bu Onicha" (meaning: However, we are not a random bunch of Igbo-speaking peoples, we are Onicha). If you were to ask him what language he spoke, he would most-likely say "Anyi na-asu okwu Onicha" (meaning: we speak the language of the Onicha people). Like, Abagworo pointed out, this phenomenon is also found among other groups. If you had asked that question in Aro, the reply would've been "okwu Aro"; in Ngwa "Ngwa"; in Owere, Ngor Okpala, and their vicinities, "Urata".

That is why the true meaning of the phrase "Abu m onye Igbo" is "I am a member of one of the Igbo-speaking peoples who occupy th territory west of the Edo, east of the Ibibio, south of the Igala and Idoma, and north of the Ijo".

In today's world, the definition of "Igbo" has somewhat changed. Due to the forces of natural evolution and change (that is, if the forceful and abrupt
intervention of the Europeans can actually be considered 'natural'), the Igbo have gone from being a categorization of similar and related peoples who speak similar languages to being an ethnic group, equipped with a standard language, on its way to nationhood.

Antivirus92: Are you insunuating that the europeans founded the word "igbo"?

I did not in any way imply this. In fact, I believe the exact opposite: the term "Igbo" has always been in existence and in use. However, the understanding of it that we have today was prompted by the Europeans.

kwangi: Dude, get real abeg!

I saala nu m ajuju m juru?

Let me try this:

Shop (house) - ulo avia
Store (house) - ulo ngwongwo (warehouse)
Store front - ivu avia
Shopping - nzumavia
Shopper - onye nzumavia
Customer - onye nzumavia
Service - oru
Cash - ego
Change (money) - uma
Counter - elu okpokoro
Credit card - ihe ugwo
ATM - mgbazinara ego
Manager - onye isi
Isle (of products) - uzo ngwo avia
Till - ikpo ego
Commodity - ngwo avia
Grocery - ihe ndi
Electronics - okwuinoku
Items - umu ihe
Utensils - umu ihe
Shop assistant - nwa avia
Furniture - umu okpokoro
Clothing - nwei
Gift - onyinye
Children's wear - nwei umuruma
Menswear - nwei umu nwoke
Womenswear - nwei umu nwaanyi
Register (sign on to something) - idei ava
Member (signing on to something) - onye otu
Membership - otu
Savings - nmeda onu
Allowance (what kind?)
Discount - mgbuwa oda
Programme (like a membership programme)
Customer services - nlema anya ndi avia
Check out - iwepu
Shopping cart - nkwara
Shop lifting detector - ihe mgbochi nzi
Cost - oda
Sale (selling) - orire
Sale (reduction of price) - nmeda onu
Online - na intaneti
Save - rie
Clearance - opupu
Refund - nyeachi
Return (returning items) - umu ihe nyeachi
Receipt - akwukwo avia
Percent - okere

ezeagu: It's supposed to be ndia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_for_Promoting_Igbo_Language_and_Culture

But there's no website, no information about headquarters, and I'm not even sure they are involved very much in Igbo curriculum. I see it as dead organisation that was only useful for orthography in the 1950s. It should be resurrected in the form of this: http://brown.edu/Departments/Africana_Studies/people/IkechukwuAchebe.html

Look at French regulation for example: http://www.xn--acadmie-franaise-npb1a.fr/

Headquarters:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Institut_de_France_-_Acad%C3%A9mie_fran%C3%A7aise_et_pont_des_Arts.jpg/320px-Institut_de_France_-_Acad%C3%A9mie_fran%C3%A7aise_et_pont_des_Arts.jpg

O di kwa njo o.

If they are truly the group of people who are responsible for the welfare of the Igbo language, then nsogbu di. Somewhere, I also read something about Oxford University being the prominent authority on Igbo literature and linguistics. However, I do agree that we (those with the power to do so) need to urgently revive organizations like these. It would be nice if there were organizations that would published annual dictionaries complete with new words and etc.

If someone travelled to Agukwu Nri in the year 1700 and asked an indigene what language he spoke, what would the reply be?

*I might have mispelled some of the words*

A relative translated them for me into Calabar Efik.

1. How are you: eti eririe (response would be: iri oke; meaning: "it is not bad" )
2. Where are you: eroke mmong
3. Where are you going: aka mmong
4. Good morning: emede mere or mesierong
5. Good day: menyong
6. Thank you: sosongo
7. Friend: ufan fo
8. Come and eat: eriamkpo

Efik market days

Ekwuru Efiong
Ekwuru Arar
Ekwuru Eyirio
Ekwuru Ekpem

Antivirus92: igweeee! I ga-adi ndu ruo mgbe ebighi ebi! Mana oputara na ibini ukpabi abughi arusi?

I meela o.

Odighi, Ibini Ukpabi abughi arunsi. Ibini Ukpabi bu aha ihu agwu (oracle) ebe e si aga na ihu Chukwu.

In Arochukwu, the two most prominent deities are Kamalu (deity of strength) and Chukwu Abiama (supreme deity). Aside from these two, there are numerous minor deities that are either inyamavia (deities that are said to provide good business fortune) or personal deities (which typically exist in family compounds as masks, gongs, trees, and etc).

In the olden days, upon returning from a long journey, a man would make a small sacrifice [usually of animal's blood] to his personal arunsi along with a pouring of libations in order to thank his ancestors and that particular deity for safely guiding him home.

mallorca: Ife nile di ka Chineke siri wee ke ya,Chukwuebuka!

O buru na ezi.

stillwater: ^^^That is one pissed bride, lol. Just kidding.

Lol she looks rather disinterested.

One_Naira: This is just wrong. I'm not sure if those boys positioned the gorilla's arm like that or it just happened to be like that but it just wrong.

Lol.

King George III is the great great great grand nephew of Ghengis Khan; Nigeria was an Italian colony; Shaka Zulu was actually an Arab sailor who was shipwrecked off of Africa; and Barrack Obama is actually Obasanjo in disguise.