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prettyeyes:
garyarnold - R u sure u read Numbers 18 very carefully? u said the lord's tithe is everything that passes under the rod, did u not see verse 16 or u dont have it in your bible? u can redeem your tithe with money now in this verse God said shekels but we dont use shekels anymore we use naira that is why we give in naira or any other currency with respect to that country. u made mention of ordinanceses and made refference to THE LEVITES. U said "God said to take His tithe to the Levites"now who is a levite? the Levites were selected by God to serve in His santuary as Priests. they dont farm or do anything but offer service to God on behalf of the people. Now who is a Pastor. A Pastor is a person called by God to offer service to Him then. A Pastor is a Priest. u seem to have a lot of dictionarices please kindly read the definition of the word PASTOR in the LONGMAN DICTIONARY. Nobody has doubt that Tithe is a tenth part of your income the fact is that tithe is very scriptural if it is not, then; where did u get all the scriptures u have qouted so far. if u go to church at all Pay your tithe dont be rebellious.

prettyeyes:
and while u r reading take note of the tenses carefully too. in Malachi 3:8 God was asking a question in verse 9 He explained why Heked the question and in verse 10 God gave an instruction the word used there is "BRING" ye all the tithes,  now if u r christain it means u should obey God by BRINGING your tithes to His house. If u dont u r being rebellious and rebellion is as a sin of witch craft am sure must have seen that in your bible that is if u have one. Whichever way God has told His MOG to direct His members is not for u to question. The MOG answers to God not u.

leadteam:
Its not a new format, It has been like that since, Its just that some of these new parishes has not been doing it. All the old RCCG use this format. your tithe is between you and God. Not for humans to see you . It is high time people server God in spirit and in truth Jare.


I prefer to do my giving without synchronization and anonymously and was unsure why they introduced this new format.

KA24DETT:
If the Pastors spend half the time they spend preaching about tithes and offerings to the congregagtion on the sins of lying and stealing, nigeria would be a better place. How can a local government chairman or a senator or a governor expect to receive blessings when he channels all the state allocation to his private account. All the prophet in the bible were never loved by the rulers of the day, some were jailed, some were also killed for saying the truth and warning the leaders about the consequences of their action. I have never seen or heard Adeboye telling all the senators or local governement chairman that come to his church that they will die from all the evils they do with the state allocation. If he wants to do the right thing, he should go as far as telling all his pastors that they shouldnt receive any tithes from any political appointee because that money should be used to develop the city or country. Nope, he wont say that cus thats bad for business.
Its about time all these pastors get off the " pay your tithe or u will die" bandwagon cus honestly, God does not give a poo if u pay tithe or not. The pastors should be telling all our politician about the consequences of their action and how they will burn and rot in hell for their actions on our community and our country cus i know all these politicians do go to church.
The instruction of people coming in the front of the church so that everybody would know u pay your tithe is wrong but a very good psychological and business decision. It makes the giver feel good and special and makes the individual not giving feel like he does not belong. I dont know why u would want anyone to know u are paying tithes, its between u and God. Why the show., its all business . The US played the same "fear" game during the soviet war, do u notice that all the holllywood movies allways show the US victorious against Russia, its all a propaganda,. it makes the viewer and the rest of the world belieive that the US is better even though they are.
Its about time we develop maturely as an individual and realize that God only cares about our heart and not our offerings. Its not about the money, u give and u dont, its all up to u but never ever believe that u get special blessing bcus u give. U get blessing from your actions during the week and after the church and the positive impact u create on peoples life, thats what GOD looks at.

nearest:
Which one be your own in this matter? I said his church, meaning his in charge of the church not owning the church.
Don't you say my house when you are referring to the house you live in which you also pay rent to the landlord? my guy, if you feel paying tithe is wrong then confront your pastor about it, if you don't like his answer then QUIT HIS CHURCH

nearest:
I've said it before, if you want to understand the context of some instruction in the bible, read the original text! The bible was not written in english, and you will all agree that the english language is not as reach as the greek language{i'm not saying the bible was written in greek in the olden days, but it was translated into english from greek}. Sometimes the true meaning of something is lost in translation. Anyways, on paying tithe, do as your pastor tells you, if you have studied the bible and disagree with your pastor, what then are you doing in his church?

jcross19:
any pastor i mean ANY pastor that makes tithe as an obligation is a fraud and any church paying salary to pastor that church is fraud . remember jesus said that he will start his judgement from his house which is church to tell that HE "jesus" has knew what is going to happen .

adegoketes:
speaking in tongues is a necessity for every christian because it's an evidence of the in filling of the Holy Spirit,. That is , you cannot receive the Holy Spirit and not speak in tongues. And we know that it's hard for a christian to live HOLY without the Holy Spirit for the Holy Spirit is the spirit of Holiness, and without holiness no one can see the LORD. (1 sam2:9) " It's not by power, nor by might but by my spirit", saith the LORD.

davidylan:
I am in a church where they are sometimes asked to wave their tithes in the air. I have no problems waving nothing.

Mkpotu:
@KunleOshob, all these things are clearly stated in the Bible both in the Deut. 14:22-29 (usually done Catholic & Anglican churches as in Bazaar/thanksgiving where people bring things and they are later sold in the church) which you quoted as well as Malachi 3:6-12 (an obligation with a promise attached)
Why I do not really like venturing into argument about tithing is because I know in the past I have not really kept this obligation as a Christian, but that does not mean that when people are taught or encouraged to pay tithe, it is now a sin/fraud. Most of us are fund of choosing the ones that suits us whilst the unsuitable ones are criticized and argued against.

As a Christian, we are obliged to pay our tithe, most times it is not really easy but we are enjoined to do it. This is similar to telling you as a Christian, do not commit fornication or adultery, but you see most times how many of us Christians keep to it. it is simple, judgment is not for us but for God.

What I can understand from the tithing stuff is that, It is an instruction from God for us to observe and there is a promise/reward for it; Malachi 3:10-12 and I know it works. I do not think it was the pastors/ Rev. Fathers that put this Chapter of the Bible and I believe the Bible should be read as a whole and not in segment or piece meal.

Mkpotu:
@Poster as per Topic;

There is nothing wrong in calling up people that have their tithe to the altar and then pray for them. For your information, it is not only in RCCG that such is done, it is usually done in most churches and I do not see it as a new thing in RCCG or anything that could give any sane person this kind of concern. Whether they say people with their tithe should stand up for prayers and later they still match to the altar to drop and calling them to the altar for prayers and thereafter, they drop their tithe, to me I believe they are the same thing.

Meanwhile, announcement for tithing is usually done every Sunday (for convenience as different people have different times/period they receive their salaries/wages/remuneration), so I don't see the reason why you are bothered that you are seated except your conscience is really disturbing you as per not tithing. It's just conscience thing and nobody cares who goes this Sunday and who goes the next Sunday. Mind u, may be your church/parish is smaller because in some bigger ones, people with their tithe are asked to raise it up, after prayers, the ushers go around and collect them.

As per looking for the Biblical interpretation, there is no format/procedure stated in the bible on how to bring your tithe to the house of God.

bong4:
Well ,Well, Well Only the stingy will oppose tithing and expect God to talk to them on it directly. Go to Malachi 3 and read up. It is not compulsory but if you believe the God that said You shall be blessed and That The Lord is thy Shepherd, why is it too difficult for you to believe that you must pay your tithe. Besides God is not a beggar and your ten percent will not, i repeat will add shishi to his numerous wealth. How much do you guys even make that you think tithing should be difficult?

gmailer:
Real Christians DO NOT struggle with [i]paying [/i]their tithe.

lagerwhenindoubt:
There was one very funny format at a church in Sapele. i was there for a wedding and the pastor asked for everyone to reach in their pockets and bring out their tithes and wave it to God for him to bless. my comedian friend laughed and said. i only have naira coins and if i try to wave them it could hurt somebody

slap1:
My heart beats faster and goose bumps takes over my body as I read some replies on this topic. Is it not better for the uninformed to keep quiet than to bring down curse upon themselves?