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Joagbaje:WOW @ the highlighted above! Jesus had no CHALLENGES my friend, only those who are out to confuse will think of all that Jesus Christ went through for our SAKES as his own challenges. Jesus was and remains BLAMELESS! The stages he went through was to teach us lessons and never a product of his own, he already KNEW his assignment before he was "born" to SAVE us, abeg o, study your Bible well well before you lead others out of the way oooo ![]() Ever noticed that every time the Apostles/Disciples were listed that Judas always came last? You think that wasn't intentional? You think Jesus wasn't aware the guy was stealing and left him to teach us a lesson about GREED? Matthew 26: 24The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born. |
jagunlabi:Think of the Pharaohs they keep digging up every now and then, are they white or as light as most of the Egyptians you see these days? That should explain a lot of it to anyone who is OBJECTIVE enough to seek answers, they looked so much alike in those days to the point of one of Pharaoh's daughter taking in baby Moses and raising him to full adulthood. ![]() |
I get your point now, hope every thing is peachy over there in the ATL. |
Of what use is this? You mean to tell me someone left Nigeria for America and unable to communicate in the language of his adopted home? We need to spend our time on worthwhile enterprises rather than encourage people to remain in the sidelines. |
There is nothing that says the devil is not going to try to duplicate what God already established for his people if only to say he can do it too. Don't they also have the pagan/devilish trinity? The devil is in charge of this temporary world and will do anything to take others with him come judgment day. The "authorities" that tried and put Jesus on the cross thought they did it because they had the 'power' instead of the events being what God had already decided so that man would no longer die. |
Gunner needs a lesson in signs and symbols it seems, maybe you need to take that as home work and figure out what your team's logo actually means ![]() Ever heard of the 5 Solas? If the Catholic Church was enough, why did Martin Luther bother to write 93 thesis on the sale of indulgence? Learn young man ![]() |
Gunnaz007:The very fact that you love a soccer team enough to use on NL says a lot (to put it mildly but that analysis is for a different thread), I play soccer and don't cheer lead, I rest my case. Nigeria has changed, the Anglicans, Catholics, Methodists, etc brought free or subsidized education, health care, and other social services to the communities they ministered to but these days the new age churches of Nigeria are busy opening universities most of their members can't afford to send their children, for profit companies and what have you with only the naive left to defend such. There are STRICT laws that govern such around here so don't blame me for not being aware of "business churches" if such exists. It would be nice for the "gunner" to lay off the koolaid for indoctrination for a little while don't ya think? ![]() Shalom. CHARLOE: God bless you my brother, we can't allow the misinformation to continue unchallenged or we too will be failing in our Christian obligation to LOVE one another and SHARE with one another. |
^^ You got to be a soccer fan of one of those teams in the UK , I don't follow any man, I follow Jesus Christ and holds no man in that regard reserved for the most high. I expected you to "educate" me on why a Church should become involved in banking since the only time we ever found in the Bible where Jesus Christ was visibly upset was when he turned the tables in the Temple where the money changers had set up shop. You all may know more than I do so feel free to "educate" me on this, I don't believe in Churches, I only believe in God through his only begotten son Jesus Christ. I have worshiped/fellowshiped with the same folks now for over 3 years and don't feel a need to broadcast them because at the end of the day, "each one of us will have to work out his/her own Salvation with fear and trembling". Serve God only because he CAN'T and WON'T disappoint you! |
This thread is about folks stealing from a Church's bank ( I didn't know Churches were into banking these days in Nigeria) and my comments were strictly about that and not judgmental on anyone no matter their position. It is not my job neither do I need another job (thank God), I am too grounded to be drawn into any war of any kind. Your tone here is a little milder than the previous, anger/hate is not a Christian value so I don't hate at all, I am at peace with myself and my God. The problem with most Nigerians is that they don't care enough to look at folks critically and come up with an idea as to the kind of leader (secular and spiritual) they follow and it shows in the state of affairs in the country currently, I am not here to argue with folks who were still in diapers when I left high school as it brings no value whatsoever to me. We need to remember that God will not share his GLORY with ANYONE/ NO ONE no matter what we call them, Moses and Aaron were prime examples of that. Glory belongs SOLELY to God. |
Mudley313:It's mind bugling the way some of these guys roll now. And the moral of this story is ![]() |
Malcolm X was a Muslim, When I think of Jesus, I am not thinking of the one they show so often, no one from that region should look like that picture. |
oloriooko:The definition for "frustration" must have changed but then again, you got a point: I am FRUSTRATED with folks who view God as some kind of santa claus, folks who twist the Scriptures to fit their SCHEME, folks who follow others when they should be leading, folks who have little or no self esteem/worth, I could go on and on ![]() You can get personal all you want dude and it won't move me except you try to rub those Jerry curls on me , I don't know where you get the impression folks don't work or make a living in the US but this is not a forum for such education so I won't even touch that but you are entitled to your opinion .I can BOLDLY say I have never stolen in my life and would out anyone who does that I am aware of because it is our Christian DUTY to do such and not seek any glory for it, no one (I repeat no one) can make me do anything with sweet words like a snakeskin oil sales man. Jesus Christ is my FRIEND and he is the ONLY one I can follow but you are free to do as you please but be warned. These are the last days and I suggest you go back and STUDY your (you don't read the Bible dude) Bible very well and see that we have brothers hating on brothers, pestilence, rumors of wars, natural disasters, nations rising up against others, etc. You can read ROR all you want but it doesn't QUALIFY as a Bible, I have been to Ewu before mind you even if it's just once ![]() I would much rather remain anonymous than make a bad name for myself, I don't need money that bad my friend, I am CONTENT in case you want to know. || I'll keep you in my prayers though ![]() Shalom! |
maddock:You've got to be out of your mind to think anyone is trying to confuse with EDUCATION, no one condemns a person paying a tithe if that's what they believe in, what some of us condemn is the "requirement of tithe" preaching that goes on these days among Nigerian and 'wofer' Churches for the most part. Image123:Call it whatever you want to call it Mr. it remains your problem and prerogative: Some folks can't handle the truth so it's fine when they don't want to know because ignorance is bliss as it's often said. As for "haters" not going to Church service on a regular basis, you can speak for those you know because I for one can count the number of "Services and Sunday school" I miss in a year on one hand not to talk of the fact that I am a "worker". Check your Bible again if we are supposed to just follow and not "test every spirit" and "be wise as serpents and gentle as doves", maybe you forgot that satan was once a high Angel and infiltrating a Church wouldn't be out of reach for such, Charity to God is not what you give to a building, God's Church is in Christians, : 1 Cor. 13 |
^^^ Now Fela's song "zombie" makes lots of sense now! ![]() |
maddock: Based on your logic, those who don't pay tithe "open themselves for the devourer to attack" Based on your second logic, you only "see the miraculous hand of God" when you pay tithes? >>>And people wonder how some folks can be brainwashed into becoming suicide bombers! ![]() |
Remii, looks like you need to take a class prior to coming on this thread so the discussions wouldn't seem outlandish to you buddy! |
^^^ Where is the Biblical backing for such conclusions your honor? |
If you go through history, you will see that Europe went through what Nigeria is going through these days, there are the days of "the modern church of Nigeria LTD", it's all about the money now it seem. |
kenny888:Got to wait for the answer to that question , Evidence suggest they go into Pastoring after failing to secure employment else where for majority of Nigerian Pastors. |
^^^ Trying to find a rhyme and reason for this post! Our God is a JUST God who sent his only begotten son to PAY our DEBT in FULL and yet called himself our FRIEND while he was here on earth, he warned us of what the last days would be like which is why he admonished us to be "wise as serpents and gentle as doves" for FALSE preachers would come after his SHEEP. "By their fruits, ye shall know them, ", if spreading the TRUTH about our Lord Jesus Christ makes someone to be "categorized", it can only be a GOOD category to be in ![]() You guys need more firepower ( a few Abrams tanks maybe ) it seems ![]() |
Kunle, why you dey mind this olorioko ( I am tempted to call him oloriburuku) person sef? These folks are amorphous kinds of people and no matter the amount of light we try to shed on their practices, they won't take it because they will just change into another ID and try to defend the indefensible. God will surely judge them, something must be missing somewhere with these lot! |
^^^^ otitokoro1, Do you know what Cumin is? It is a spice and anytime you eat food prepared with Curry powder, you have had Cumin too because it is one of the recipes for Curry powder. Show me any evidence from the Bible where a fisherman/tent maker/carpenter paid tithe, stop deluding yourself by following these p*i*m*p*s on the pulpits, they are duping you for sure, you can't buy God's love and protection, the best way to sow seeds is via good deeds, love for one's neighbors, helping the "helpless" even within one's own family, etc, not money as they make you believe. |
valchris10:With so many Churches in Nigeria, little wonder lots of folks are jobless as you claim, a lean freedom is still much better than a fat slavery (remember Vatsa, you might be too young to) Christian jnr. You started well but went off the highway on the wrong exit, and you're supposed to be a Christian You guys are like entertainers with the IQ of an average rodent. |
Snowwy might be one of the regular "combatants" who morphed into another alias with this acrobatics that has no Scriptural base, his/her antics amount to Ecclisiastical nonsense at best. KunleOshob:Snowwy must not have heard the fact that we are all Priests now- royal priesthood and only have one High Priest-Jesus Christ, everyone else is at best an "elder" Methinks snowwy might be a pastor or under the influence of some heave dose of "zombism", my God doesn't live in man made Temples snowwy but in ME as a believer and doer of his WORK. |
Snowwy Dude! What you fail to understand is that God MANDATES Christians to help those around us Christian or not, I am not coming from the perspective of how it is spent, I am of the opinion it is not required, mandated or even encouraged. Can you count how many time Jesus Christ reiterated the need for us to love one another, honor thy father and thy mother, mercy, forgiveness, etc? Yet he only happened to mention tithe once in passing and you guys latch on to it? The only motivation "Churches" have for preaching it is GREED, they have built this "magnificent edifice" and now need to tax their members to maintain and support operations when our Lord and savior DOESN'T live in Temples built with human hands. Acts 7:48-49 (King James Version) 48Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet, 49Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest? Why was Stephen martyred? |
Snowwy, DUDE! The malachi 3 that's been used over and over to fleece the flock has been reviewed thoroughly here on NL and found to be a fraudulent application in most of today's Churches as it was specifically directed at the Levites who took care of everything from Temple maintenance to administration for the Israelites. When Malachi don't do the job, you guys retort to Abram's tithe to Melchizedek, etc enough already. God doesn't live in MAN MADE TEMPLES (remember that dude!) The law was still in effect when Jesus made the comments in Matthew 23:23 and I wonder why you continue with it after he already fulfilled the LAW. It is no biggy for me if I was to pay, today is tax day and I would have had it back by now if that was the case but I prefer to give in ways that don't necessarily involve me getting a tax break, the kind you can't itemize and deduct from your taxes and is not programmed. That style is in conflict with the prosperity mongers and the wofers however. We are required to serve God in spirit and in truth not follow what your "mog" said: Luke 10:21 (King James Version) 21In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight. |
^^ I couldn't agree more, we can't just be following any Church or doctrine blindly because people no matter what we think of them are people at the end of the day. We are required to "test every spirit" |
These guys are like terrorists, they seem to have cells everywhere, this one might disappear and reinvent him/herself as another NL subscriber. They must be feeling the heat as they're sending more and more "agents" to NL to debunk what real Christians think of their cult. Not surprising at all, we have to follow the steps laid out in Ephesians 6:10-18. Shalom. |
Snowwy probably ain't got no job to be twisting the Scriptures the way she seems to on this thread, Are you a Levite Snowwy? What has Malachi 3 (Gospel p*i*m*p*s love this Chapter) got to do with today's Christian? When Jesus was admonishing the Pharisees for not leaving one undone, has he been crucified then? Jesus paid our debt on the cross, there are thousands of ways to help one another and tithe is not one of them, how come Jesus didn't mention tithes in Matthew 25? Did you see " I was broke, you gave me tithe"? You can't bribe your way into heaven my dear, study your Bible a little more, there seem to be lots you don't understand yet. |
Something to be said about seeking all these Worldly accolades, if it quacks like a duck, it's got to be a duck. ![]() |
babaearly, you're not going to be able to win this astrologer over but at least you have tried, Some folks will never understand some of these things HAVE MEANINGS ( as Bob Marley sang), some are more PLAIN about their allegiance than others. "Zodiac", It is possible and happens times over to hide secret messages and codes in front pages of newspapers or even inside of it, ever heard of ciphers? Yes there can be "a message within a message", you seem to be the one who should get out of their comfort zone (mental or otherwise) more often it seems, ![]() |
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? Come on brother, you can do beta than that one!!! 