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Christianity EtcRe: Sinners In Christ Embassy,steal Millions Of Naira In Church’s Bank by ogajim(m): 12:40am On Apr 15, 2010
jaffi:
Pastor Chris preaches sound gospel!
the bible says in a great house there are vessel unto honor and vessel unto dishonor.
we all gree up from different home and sometimes if not most times,we violate even our moral trainings from home despites our parent strict instructions and training.
why??
it's the fault of the parent or the child that failed to take heed to the instructions and guideline of the loving parent?
, crooks get trapped in their sinful lust proverbs 11:6
In the book of james,the bible says -temptation comes from the lure of their(our)own evil desires.These evil desires leads to action,and action leads to death.so don't be misled,my brothers and my sisters james 1:14-16 living version.

Their action has nonthing to do with the mesaage of CHRIS EMBASSY.
READ OUR ROR and you will get familiar with the message.
There you have it folks, the real name of the Church! WOW
Christianity EtcRe: Are Large/Mega-churches Biblical? How Large Is A Church Supposed To Be? by ogajim(m): 5:58pm On Apr 14, 2010
wyt:
i just can't conted to say some thing here, these so called institutional
churches, ain;t doing what christ ask us to do, "make deciples"  i no longer
go to church because each time i go i here hereses, ranging from tithe and
offering to manner they conduct church services.i have my fellowship with
Full Gospel Business Men Fellowship still love NCCF it was nice experience
when i was a corp member. i can even put it to churches that they (all of them)
can't do 10% of what NCCF do. the worst of it now is that they now have
redeem corper, winners corper etc
to reduce what God is using NCCF to do
if you know these so called GOs tell them to leave the corp members alone to serve in  NCCF!
Most of those businesses Churches are run like Corporations and they are all about the NUMBERS so when  they see a youth corp thingy about to pour "sand sand" in their garri, they have to move to neutralize it and nip it in the bud. They are all about the BRAND my friends. cool
Christianity EtcRe: You Are Not A True Christian If You : by ogajim(op): 5:54pm On Apr 14, 2010
^^I got you.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Adeboye Is The 2nd Most Respected Man Of God by ogajim(m): 5:34pm On Apr 14, 2010
Who CAREShuhhuhhuh
Christianity EtcRe: You Are Not A True Christian If You : by ogajim(op): 5:11pm On Apr 14, 2010
If you have to tell or inform someone of your Christianity, then you have work to do. People should see/feel your FAITH, you should only have to CONFIRM what they already FEEL.

Contribute your own now grin
Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by ogajim(m): 3:43pm On Apr 14, 2010
Wofers are like smudges on the windshield of true Christianity and should be stopped before they lead way too many astray.

", be wise as serpents and gentle as doves, "

The "name it and claim it" p*i*m*ps forget Tim.6:3-8, one has to be very CAREFUL with these bunch.
Christianity EtcRe: What It Means To Be "born Again"! by ogajim(m): 2:04pm On Apr 14, 2010
Joagbaje is here after all! cool cool cool cool

He didn't come to Washington with GJ, maybe it was a protocol decision to leave him in Nigeria, I even camped out in front of Blair house and didn't see anyone looking like good 'ol jo grin

Oga jo, make you take am easy now, A Christian should DO EVERYTHING to avoid SIN, when a Christian sins, he is inviting satan to deal with him and unless he seeks forgiveness and atonement, he is game for satan. "The soul that sin shall die, "
Christianity EtcYou Are Not A True Christian If You : by ogajim(op): 1:50pm On Apr 14, 2010
Here is the deal folks:

You are NOT a true Christian if you have to announce it to people or those that interact with you daily or sparingly. Do you agree with this statement and if not why?
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Meets Obama At Blair House(pics) by ogajim(m): 1:19pm On Apr 14, 2010
^^^^Uyipeace,


Don't get too far ahead of your self bro, President Obama taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School so don't spew what you don't know just because folks are not as inclined to list titles with the names here as opposed to Nigeria.

Acting President Jonathan looks more presidential than Yara dua did but that's not for me to say, OBJ's hands might still be in all these.
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Meets Obama At Blair House(pics) by ogajim(m): 6:30pm On Apr 13, 2010
^^^^ Abeg no mind these "mumus" who think they know it all about Nigeria, if you're not dressed in western gear, it must not count, and the one that wants to teach them how to communicate, acting President GJ is a Doctor for crying out loud and you know for a fact that he got it in Nigeria or has not spent time outside the shores of Nigeria? And these are the kids that are supposed to take over sometime undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided omase ooooo!
Christianity EtcRe: Sinners In Christ Embassy,steal Millions Of Naira In Church’s Bank by ogajim(m): 5:26pm On Apr 13, 2010
jessefly:
THANKS A LOT WHICH CHURCH WILL U NOT SEE BAD EGGS DAT IS NOT THE ISSUE OR PERHAPS U DONT KNOW WAT IS GOIN ON IN THE PAPACY NOW, MY ISSUE IS THIS I HAVE NOT GIVEN ADEBOYE ANY GODLIKE STATUS, I DO NOT HAVE TO USE HIS BOOKS AS A BIBLE, I DO NOT BEHOLD INDECENT DRESSING WHEN I GO TO CHURCH, I AM NOT TAXED WAT I CANT PAY TO PLEASE MY CHURCH OR WATEVA, I AM NOT WATCHING PRE-RECORDED TEACHINGS OF ADEBOYE EVERY SUNDAY, AND ALSO MY GO IS AS HUMBLE AS IT COMES
SO ITS NOT ABOUT FINDING WRONG DEEDS IN CHURCH ITS ABOUT THE SHEPHERD CALLING HIS SHEEP TO ORDER CARING FOR THEM WITHOUT ACTUALLY MAKING THEM PAY FOR IT
Dude, you were shouting so much that you couldn't even hear your self! What do you mean be the highlighted? A lot of the so called "MOGs" everywhere are birds of the same feather and ought to flock together if they aren't already. Follow Jesus Christ only and pay no mind to these business folks, Someone even mentioned in my presence that "all the Nigerian 'MOGs' meet regularly and one can only wonder what is discussed there should that be the case.
Christianity EtcRe: Are Large/Mega-churches Biblical? How Large Is A Church Supposed To Be? by ogajim(m): 1:57pm On Apr 13, 2010
Zikkyy:
Money, Power/Influence, my church is bigger than yours metality grin Definitely not for the souls.
I think folks have forgotten the "many are called, few are chosen" admonition, the only way a "Church" grows real fast is to water down the true teaching for the MOST part, what is the point of going to a Church and your soul doesn't benefit?

Some Pastors have turned the "Church" into a kalo kalo business, the bigger and shinier the hall is, the more customers you attract. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Meets Obama At Blair House(pics) by ogajim(m): 1:09pm On Apr 13, 2010
LOL@ "mumu GEE"


I see a lot of comments here that show they have seen other Nigerian cultures apart from the "big three", I intend to get me one of those Ijaw outfits when I visit Nigeria next time, mama, make you go wear your tommy or baby fat all you want but you're still naija whether you like it or not (, wether you like or you no like, after you hear this little song, Fela na oga)

>>Wonder why some people only see GOOD in other CULTURES apart from their own DIVERSE culture undecided undecided undecided undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Sinners In Christ Embassy,steal Millions Of Naira In Church’s Bank by ogajim(m): 12:50pm On Apr 13, 2010
^^^ I no fit laugh grin grin grin grin

Follow Jesus Christ only and not man no matter what name he goes by. House fellowship is a good thing to start if you have the numbers but in the absence of enough folks to do that, be VERY VIGILANT when you worship in these churches, not just in Nigeria but everywhere.
Be like the Berean Christians and check everything you hear for your self against the Scriptures, a word is enough for the wise. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Meets Obama At Blair House(pics) by ogajim(m): 12:40am On Apr 13, 2010
[quote author=mama-gee link=topic=428840.msg5880318#msg5880318 date=1271113803][color=deeppink]This is ridiculous!
Jonathan set out to meet the President of the United States and he chose putting on an ugly hat and a dull coloured lace? undecided
Whatever happened to dressing in an Official manner? undecided
Like wearing a suit or something similar? undecided
And look at the way he puts his legs apart as he's seating and chatting with Obama.[/color] undecided[/quote]Madame, Have you ever been to Nigeria? Why can't he be dressed in his native Ijaw attire? You must have seen OBJ in suits throughout his 8 year tenure to come to this sort of conclusion. Are you so ashamed of Nigerian stuff that you want your President to showcase western culture because he is visiting the West?

I don't know where you live but I see native attires all the time from the World over, you don't seem to have a problem with kilts do you? abi na inferiority complex? lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Christianity EtcRe: Sinners In Christ Embassy,steal Millions Of Naira In Church’s Bank by ogajim(m): 6:08pm On Apr 12, 2010
Where is Pastor Joagbaje when you need him? Maybe he is here in Washington with JG, I should start a thread to place a GPS location on him undecided wink cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy.

jessefly:
'May pastor chris find it in his heart to forgive us' dats wat all were saying
why is it so, wat kind of god is pastor chris to these folks believe me once u get into dat church u get hypnotized n start looking unto pastor chris, why is it so
i belong to redeemed n i do not see adeboye like dat,
also remember wen dey fabricated a story dat some1 wanted to assasinate pastor chris days after a similar plot was unveiled on anoda man of God
i feel for all cec folks i feel for them sha God will deliver them
Dude, there are plenty of folks in Redeem that are close to these Loveworld INC. folks though a little less fanatic but they do believe "daddy" can do no wrong even after the jet thing and the pastors who became "area OLEs"


We need to PRAY for them and not condemn them to "Pastor Chris"
Christianity EtcRe: Is Pastoring Supposed To Be Full-Time Or Not? by ogajim(m): 6:07pm On Apr 09, 2010
Ideas are universal my friend and more than two people can share the same, Nigerian Churches are pooping everywhere not just there in Nigeria but all over the west. I have learnt a lot from NL because sometimes we get too busy with the daily grind too look too deep about doctrines and or issues that affect the body of Christ.

tonye-tithe was the first to make that accusation but wasn't man enough to apologize when he realized I shared issues with Kunle but not the same guy, I won't mind hooking up with Kunle next time I am in Nigeria since we're the same guy cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Is Pastoring Supposed To Be Full-Time Or Not? by ogajim(m): 5:59pm On Apr 09, 2010
Deep Sight:
Ogajim - confess once and for all. . . are you Kunle Oshodi?
Dude! You've got to be NUTS to think I am Kunle, we seem to share the same thoughts on a lot of these Nigerian impostors masquerading as "MOGs", I guess Kunle is also working right now on the east coast of "obodo" America where it's almost 1pm. You guys are good at distractions, have the moderators check my IP and confirm before you get classified as a big BOZO (major league A-hole as Cheney would say) or maybe you don't know that computers have addresses, lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

Too many kids here it seems, if you're a Lagosian, know this: I was already in high school before LKJ came to office or better yet before they had the so called LOOBO states, It's Friday and you're not gonna piss me off even if you try cool

Maybe I need to send you a link of Erykah's "window seat" video to chill with.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Pastoring Supposed To Be Full-Time Or Not? by ogajim(m): 5:08pm On Apr 09, 2010
I hear you Segymaro, I read that too about the 100 fold blessing for those who give to the GO and 60 fold blessing for those who give to the pastor, sounds and smells like someone making up a doctrine completely different from Jesus Christ >>>

Matthew 19:29 (King James Version)

29And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

kenny888:
Thats the only thing i like most about RCCG,70% of their pastor works.
Must mean the ones in Nigeria!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are All These General Overseers Bringing Their Kids Into Pastoring by ogajim(m): 3:45pm On Apr 09, 2010
Thank you sir for the clarification, I came back from naija last month, these sort of things are getting worse maybe due to the economy but we can joke with the KINGDOM of God.
Christianity EtcRe: Symbolism,Satanism,Illuminati,and Mind Control in Music by ogajim(m): 3:11pm On Apr 09, 2010
symbolism ko symbolism ni, these people know what they're doing,


, " be wise as serpents and gentle as doves, "
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are All These General Overseers Bringing Their Kids Into Pastoring by ogajim(m): 2:51pm On Apr 09, 2010
^^^Graduates can't find jobs in Nigeria but you're telling me it's right to employ a couple of teenagers at Church expense?
LOL@ being paid by their dad through his salary, it's Nigeria we're talking about here.

If you have seen a rich westerner "spoil" their children the way Africans of same means do, do share!
Christianity EtcRe: Is Pastoring Supposed To Be Full-Time Or Not? by ogajim(m): 2:47pm On Apr 09, 2010
Does RCCG preach TITHE erroneouslyhuh??
Christianity EtcRe: Assisting A Friend Or Pay Tithe. by ogajim(m): 2:22pm On Apr 09, 2010
Nuke boy is totally on POINT. These guys and gals have been turned into Zombies, they remind me of the old "phonogram" (or was it phonodisk ?) motto and logo with the dog and the caption "his master's voice" grin grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: The Victor Banjo Story by ogajim(m): 1:56pm On Apr 09, 2010
Justcash:
The answers to this Topic has been about Igbos , hausas, Yorubas against themselves, and Some one will wake up in the Morning to tell me that Nigeria will ever be one? [b]When Northerners and westerners are rejoicing about committing a genocide, based on certain perceptions and Igbos are seen as rebels rather than victims.
This is an evidence that no real change can ever come to Nigeria untill the truth is said.

One of the most productive tribes in Nigeria is being laughed at for being victims, how do you expect any meaningful contribution from them?

@Poster: Is the answer to your question not simple? What is the implication of sabortaging a serious military operation? Is it not death? How did they get to Ore if they were not strong enough?[/b]
What were the Ibos doing when Hausa, Yoruba and Mid West folks were killed in the first coup? Did an Ibo become head of state after that? Were the Ibo wives in the barracks making fun of the Hausa wives?Why were the Eastern politicians and officers spared?


They got to Ore because the Ibo officers and their mid western ibo officers in Benin left everything for them (assist is what they call it in Basketball)
Christianity EtcRe: Is Pastoring Supposed To Be Full-Time Or Not? by ogajim(m): 6:35pm On Apr 08, 2010
Fhemmmy:
There is no doubt about the fact that many are not called, but they have called themselves, cos they see money.
However, it will be hard sometimes for us to know who was called and who was not.
That is why the bible said at the last day, many will come and pretend to be of the Lord, but we have to be careful and knowthe truth.
Any pastor that teaches contrary to the word of God, runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
", By their fruits, ye shall know them, "

We can figure them out (some take a while) based on their doctrines, associations, etc. If they teach anything outside of Jesus Christ or the Apostles, run, better yet FLEE is what the Bible tells us to do. Jesus took 12 disciples and turned them into Apostles with Authority and Seniority grin

There is an old Yoruba proverb , " all Lizards lie prostrate, it is therefore hard to determine which one has a belly ache until it is bad enough to cause it to turn over, ", in matters of the kingdom, it is our DUTY to find out before it's too late.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Pastoring Supposed To Be Full-Time Or Not? by ogajim(m): 5:59pm On Apr 08, 2010
Fhemmmy:
U bet you could pray for yourself, however, there is nothing wrong while i am working and all that and someone is busy just seeking the face of God on my behalf and that of other members of the church.
The pastor need time to prepare and take care of duties at the church.
Some take some days to talk to people and counsel them
Some are all over the place doing the work of the Lord
I understand your point, do you think maybe that the influx of all kinds of shady characters into the Pastoring fold could be traced to the lack or regulation as this is an unregulated industry (if one can call it that)? All some of them need is a "calling" to the "ministry" when in fact MONEY is calling them.

Good deeds and continuance thereof will produce super abundance of face time with God, a Pastor can not and should not take the place of one's parents, no matter how busy I get, I will have time for God. there is no need for an intermediary as long as one has from Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Pastoring Supposed To Be Full-Time Or Not? by ogajim(m): 5:29pm On Apr 08, 2010
^^Dude you no fit pray for yourself?

Come on man, one has to live right and be right with God for any prayer to work no matter who is saying the prayers for you. I sincerely don't see why it should be a full time job unless they are not allowed to seek any other form of employment, opari!
Christianity EtcRe: Is Pastoring Supposed To Be Full-Time Or Not? by ogajim(m): 1:35pm On Apr 08, 2010
I saw the same thing last month when I visited Nigeria, Pastoring is a full time job for those who can't get regular jobs or for those of them that were "exported" to the west, they are not allowed to work (visa requirement). It has become the only section of the Nigerian economy with any growth, the ones that had skills before they were "called" do some side gigs I am sure. wink
Christianity EtcRe: Assisting A Friend Or Pay Tithe. by ogajim(m): 1:13pm On Apr 08, 2010
I am sure OP has got the message by now to go ahead and help his friend out.

tonye-tithe is like a well dine steak at this point and all we need do is stick a fork in him! The tithe merchants must be defeated because they're a disgrace to the body of Christ.

Why is it that majority of those that can't get real jobs in Nigeria become pastors? Is there real "calling" among Nigerian pastors anymore other than the call of MONEY?

We sincerely need to stop putting people who aren't worth a dime on a pedestal, it's like a bad case of low self esteem coupled with the inability to discern the Word of God.

, " be wise as serpents and gently as doves, " because they're out to get you and drain your pockets while they're at it.

A word is enough for the wise, cool beans cool cool cool cool
Christianity EtcRe: Assisting A Friend Or Pay Tithe. by ogajim(m): 7:57pm On Apr 05, 2010
[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=421491.msg5833216#msg5833216 date=1270468449]@ Alethiea,

To pick an instance of a logic to assume the generality of another shows you still have a long way to go. Dude let me seat back and analyze your lessons on English grammar/language.


Alethiea : “If I say Tonye-t is of Nigeria, what does it tell you”

Tonye-t: Sir, it tells me Tonye-t is a Nigerian. Let me presume your emphasis is on the word “of”

Alethiea: “What is the difference between “Matters of the Law” and “THE LAW”

Tonye-t: Ok Sir, if I say “Writers of the Law” what will you deduce from it, does that now make these Writers, THE LAW?


Let me dont waste my time on you. Dude, next time take note, the word “of” is used to connect a subject(LAW) to an object(MATTERS) and not to assume a subject (LAW) to be a prepositional object (MATTERS OF THE LAW). And your biggest gaffe is seen in your blunder of grammar “is of” which you used to explain “of the” (even when they mean different things). Disgust was the case when some supposed grammarians in the house applauded Nwa teacher amidst his silly gaffe. Lol.

Let me ask you one question and if you answer me, the I’ll forever esteem you. Agreed? Good!

-If you say Tithing is a/the Law (mosaic law), then when Abraham tithed in Genesis, did he tithe under the Law (Mosaic law)same with Jacob.?

And for the record. I was 5months shy from my B.Eng the year [color=#006600]NECO
was first introduced. Therefore I barely know little or nothing about NECO. Safe for the acronym; and its affiliation to SSCE certifications. Maybe you know more about how folks failed, because you could be a protégé to the descent recently. Nairaland sha! grin grin

And to the rest who love the word “mongers” (maybe they learnt of the word recently). If you feel you are more righteous than the Greatest one – Jesus who said the act of tithing should not be ignored. Then go ahead. I wonder if their problem is actually with the MEN OF GOD who take these offering or the problem is with their STINGY POCKETS to give a tenth of what God’s blessed them with as honor to God. You ask him a question he’ll run, so needless asking him. grin grin

Stingy folks who’ll stop at nothing to spread their baseless arguments of anti-tithing on innocent Christians in this section. Av been a victim once and never to be a victim again. angry angry

May God help us! wink wink[/color][/quote]tonye-tithe, I thought you turned the corner buddy but you are still calling folks who won't fall for the scam "stingy pockets" (whatever that means)

I am too old to know what NECO is or was so I'll let that slide.

Failing to fall for a scam doesn't make one stingy but wise if you ask me, there are plenty of ways to help the needy/stranger/widow/orphan/ etc without following the "institutional route", way too many FALSE doctrines in Christianity today and a Christian really NEED/SHOULD follow Christ's admonition to be ", wise as serpents and gentle as a dove, "
Christianity EtcRe: The Babylonian Origins Of Easter (ishtar) by ogajim(m): 3:24pm On Apr 05, 2010
Daniel 7:25 (King James Version)

25And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


Not all the glitters is gold my friends!

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