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World AIDS Day 2009

Do you know that:

In the past thirty years, over 25 million people have lost their lives to HIV/AIDS
4.4% of Nigerians between 15 and 49 are living with HIV/AIDS
Nigeria has the third highest number of people living with HIV/AIDS
About 1.3 million children in Nigeria have been orphaned by the disease
For more startling facts about HIV/AIDS in Nigeria, go to www.naca.gov.ng and www.unaids.org.en.



World AIDS Day is commemorated annually on December 1. This year, the global theme is "Stop AIDS. Take the lead."

The last time I checked, the penalty for armed robbery is death in most parts of Nigeria.
The death penalty has not stopped armed robbery, why do they think it will stop kidnapping.

The key is better crime prevention and good punishment for lesser crimes before the criminals graduate in bigger crimes like kidnapping.

tempest01:
A safe haven to temper with the votes?

Its going to be a safe haven for the govt in power to temper and manipulate votes without any prying eyes.

A new kia is better than a used japanese car. a new car gives you an trouble free assurance you can not get from a used car.

Maxidoe:
Spot on well said,quite an intelligent post,keep it up,stand up for what is right even if you stand up alone


Deceit is not patriotism,another man's total failure should not be an excuse for another man's failure.I lived in Warri through out the regime of Ibori,i had the opportunity to travel round the country,well Ibori built some infrastructure, that does not mean it is enough.For the fact that a student scored 10% in his exams and another one scores 30% in his exams does not mean the one with 30% passed, they both failed.We ought to celebrate if a criminal or thief is disgraced,and we would irrespective of where the person is from,if my Governor is disgraced today i would be more than happy cos he is a thief.And if u must know someone who is given 10billion naira is naturally expected to perform much more than someone who is given just 3billion naira.For your information Ibori cant beat his chest in term of performance where we have Donald Duke,yet Duke has also been indicted and he is also a thief and a criminal.If Ibori is given 50billion and he works with 10billion,does that not make him a thief,pls stop crying more than the bereaved, My advise for you quit fooling yourself here,nothing personal,you may not know you are fooling yourself here,so guy pls quit it,i mean you are ranting shamelessly and it seems you dont know it,am sorry for asking this please are you up to 10 years old,no offense,am just amazed at your level of understanding and manner of argument.

First and foremost all politicians in Nigeria are thieves. Even the rev father who was made a gov during Ibori's tenure turned out to also be a thief. Having said that, we will now look for the bigger thief and criticise them accordingly.

Thank god you lived in Warri and you have confirmed that Ibori built 'some' infrastructures. the question is what did others do during the time Ibori was building those infrastructures you mentioned.

What did Obasanjo do in 8 years in Delta state. Remember the FG collects over 52% of the revenue while the state gov was collecting 29%. with 29% Ibori was able to build some structures all across the state while the FG did nothing in delta state with 52% of the revenue. so why criticise Ibori more?

In you analogy, If I have two children, one score 30% and the other score 10% my annoyance will be on the bigger failure who got 10% than on the one who scored 30%.

Based on that analogy I will criticise the federal govt and other state govs more than Ibori, because they failed more woefully than Ibori.

I will criticise the FG first because it failed more before I criticise Ibori, I will not tell you that Ibori did not steal but we have bigger thieves amonst us than Ibori. Modifying public opinion away from the bigger thieves will not help us on the long run. If Bode George, a common Board chairman could misappropraite 84 billion, use your head and calculate how much other federal officials in the several ministries and boards misappropraited. This same Bode Goerge was shielded by Obasanjo.

We still have the 300 billion tony Anineh has not accounted for. Certainly there are Interests groups within the country that will not want you to look at these thieves. Anytime you talk corruption, they shout Ibori to take your focus away from the bigger thieves.

You are comparing duke to Ibori, Duke did projects in calabar, Ibori did projects in every local govt of delta state. In terms of coverage, Ibori's project had more impact on more people of the state.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=353140.msg4943582#msg4943582 date=1258468897]Kano is the most populated by inhabitant while akwa ibom & rivers state get the highest allocation,yet fashola stil touch much lives than these governors[/quote]Dis pikin take your time. you are comparing lagos and Kano with respect to population and taxes??

Kano has more population on paper but on ground is a different thing. Lagos wins.

hope you will not ask the Kano gov to tax almajiris to be able to catch up with lagos.
We don't want another rampage and churches burnt.

Rivers gov is trying on a serious note. just that the guy is not making noise about it.

RICHIE BOI:
this international bad boy(IBB) is yet to give account of the $16 Billion dollars oil gulf winfall that was never accounted for.

O boy, you have increased the windfall from 12 to 16 billion usd. I guess you are adding interest to the capital

emiemi:
Ogb5 and erico2k2 seem to be the same person to me.

Everyone that criticises your position must be one and thesame person to you. Suit yourself

emiemi:
I do not have to reside in Delta state to reap the benefit of a working gov there y'know.

You are wrong there. You have to be on ground to know what actually happened. Ibori was not like most politicians, he did not hire praise singers to blow his trumpets, so if you live far away you will not see the goodies.
Come back home for a vacation and tour the state. A trial will convince you 

emiemi:
Pls go ahead and laud our chief honourable Onanefe Ibori as nothing can change your stance.

you can't change my stance by not being objective. You claim to be from Delta state. Can you tell me one delta gov who has performed better than Ibori since the creation of Delta state? If you can not, then you will agree with me that Ibori is the best gov delta state has got since its creation. And should you really be criticising the best gov blindly?

emiemi:
I asked whether you know how much allocations come into the state and what was done
with such in the tenure of Ibori but you dodged the question. Your likes will not
get a chance in the Nigeria of tomorrow if you continue this your campaign for corrupt
(korokoro) leaders.

The allocation to the states and local govts were widely published by the federal govt during Ibori's tenure. So its no secret. Also alot of projects were done by Ibori during his tenure. so whats the issue.

emiemi:
@Ogb5
You see the problem that I just pointed out? What are you defending? Are you a relation of Ibori?
Or simply, have you been granted some contracts _{(supply it is mostly called though you end up supplying nothing)}
while the guy was in power? You are eagerly ready to defend the poor man whose arse will soon
follow Bode George to lay in Kirikiri.

Go to saharareporters.com for a lot of proofs (which you will still find unsatisfactory) which you seek.

emiemi:
I am a bonafide Deltan Mr erico to your shame. But all your claims are nothingness.
What you need is information on how much the state gets as allocations and the
internal revenues generated. Then compare with what you ''seemingly'' observed to
be government efforts at alleviating the poverty and disunity in that land.

You claim to be from delta state but the highlighted texts shows that you are very alien to the affairs of delta state.

During Ibori's tenure, supply was not the way gov money was spent. Contracts where given out for construction mostly. The question you should ask is if the constructions were done.

If you are from delta state as you claim then come back to delta state from wherever you have hidden yourself and see things on the ground before you join others blindly in calling your leaders thieves.

Come to delta state and you will see the footprint of Ibori's tenure in all corners of delta state.

Wherever you are, there are several ways Ibori was better than the gov of that state. So criticise your non performing state and federal officials before you criticise Ibori.

rasputinn:
They won't fool anybody as the many criminal acts of Ibori are legendary and the records are available for all to see

Can you guide to where I can see the records? Just point every one on this forum to where they can see the records of Ibori's criminal acts as a gov of delta state.

erico2k2:
Now you need your brains checked even more, Im from Delta State and I can tell you my state benefited more during the Ibori rule,there was so much monies spent on the states, it was during his tenure we dont have to pay for primary education in Delta state,he created DESOPADEc to give jobs to loads of people, he brought almost 6 higher learning infrastructure to the stae, bosaries where paid as at when due,N10k and above, built roads and bridges to places never imagined in the whole of Delta,man I cant go on n on, my stake here is, if Ibori is a thief as you said just cos he refused to share the Money with the rest of the crooks in the fedral level then the whole of Delta state is indeed guilty of this crime, now Im asking you again, what where his offence? cant you state them, you being a Lawyer?if you tell me his offence then we shall see if its any diffrent from any other state governement,why dont we for starters start with your state, tell me what the govt have done in 14 yrs lets check it out with what Ibori did for Delta state in 8 yrs, today we have Oil derivatives to delta state and indeed the whole of the Niger Delta cos of Him,your leaders are decieving you lot, the real thievs aint been caugh, eg, baba sshege.

Enrico, save your breath, don't waste time educating people who have refused to learn.

Some people quickly call Ibori names. They forget that they have never been in Delta state. They have not compared Ibori's achievement to the achievement of others, they quickly come out and type rubbish, calling Ibori a thief just because the heard others call him a thief.
While their state govs and federal officials steal them senseless, they forget where to channel their energies and lose focus. Blaming Ibori for the failure of their own governments.

Every right thinking delta indigene who is conversant with delta state knows the progress Ibori's govt brought to delta state.

Strangers can scream and call Ibori what ever name they like, but the efforts and achievements of Ibori is recorded by structures on the ground and is known by the people of delta state.

mikesleek:
We all know to what extent this guy emnriched himself with public funds and what we are trying to say here is that such people should not be given the honourable opprtunityb of being convocation speakers, for heaven's sake.

Mikesleek, If your gov was better than Ibori you will not have a problem naming who your gov was during Ibori's tenure. If you are bold enough to name your gov, I will tell you several ways Ibori was better than your gov.

emiemi:
What amazes me about some NLanders is that they are very quick to display their lack of depth
especially ''defending'' their so called tribes man. Does corruption have a particular tribe or is it
a native of a land? Pls, Let's all condemn what is wrong and stop justifying evil. That's the way
forward. Fashola will be a very worthy representative at that event. he sure will inspire and
motivate the younger generation some of whose lives will be changed just by listening to a
speech like that.

This is not a matter of tribesman. Judging people should be based on facts. What facts do they have that Ibori was a worse crook than other govs and federal officials during their tenure.

I don't have data to show that Ibori stole more than others, what I have is that Ibori performed better than most govs in the country during their tenure, sentiments aside. I will not castigate a better performer like Ibori while glorifying poor performers.

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0sisi:
Oh My
pray for me then
I ate their meatpies recently on allen avenue area
I hope I didn't contract tape worms and hookworms

You must have contracted both hook, line & sinker worms  

You go and vomit out ur intestine

lapson:
Sold to one of the nairalander from portharcourt today at about 12 noon nigerian time.
Have a safe flight back to portharcourt.

Thanks for the business. had a delayed flight for 3 hrs at the airport.
all cool though.

What do they use bitter cola for abroad, just wondering

Sagamite:
I guess so.

Most likely they would need a psychiatrist to convince you if you don't believe a bank that is going cap-in-hand to its nation's Central Bank for cash to fund its day to day activities (of paying staff and servicing liabilities) is not a bank in distress.

*Morons plenty!*

Your mumu nor get mate.
It's thesame banks both local and international agencies were rating highly a few months back. Every body was wrong only the CBN is right. Mumu

Even the predictions in March that some backs will be schemed out of the hands of the owners will not get you thinking about the real motive of the CBN gov. MUMU plenty for NL

Start from the road leading to lagos.

The lagos benin road is an eyesore, people spend up to 10 hours in a 50Km stretch at Ore due to potholes on the road

This remind me of June 12, Cancel the election and look for reasons later.

In this case, steal other people's bank and look for reason why you did it.

They will need more than forensic experts to convince me that Intercontinental and Oceanic banks are distressed.

Help with this igndu03e4yd318261

Would have loved to buy it for someone. the airbag was deplored in a previous accident. How was it fixed

Bankole is lying

the pattern is well known, people like him are only trying to incite the people of the niger delta against their leaders. They will call the Niger delta leaders corrupt so that the people will not ask for more derivation money. are govs in other parts of Nigeria better than the Niger delta govs?
Why is the corruption focus on the ND govs.

The provisional census figures as at 2006 puts the population of Nigeria at 140 million, while the Nine ND states at 31 million, where did Bankole manufacture 17million from as the population of the Niger delta.

At a population of 31million, 22% of Nigerians live in the Niger Delta, giving 13% of the revenue to 22% of the population is not doing the people a favour, there is 87% of the revenue left to be shared by the remaining 78% of Nigerians.

During obasanjos tenure, revenue allocation to he states was well publicised, at no time during those years was the allocation to any Niger delta state higher than an entire region of 6 states. the revenue allocation formula has not changed in favour of the Niger delta states since obasanjos tenure. Bankole is manufacturing these lies to justify denying federal expenditure in the niger delta.

The problems in the Delta are not manly problems to be solved by the state govts, they are problems to be solved by the federal problem.
Nigeria constitution vest ownership and maintenance of Trunk A roads on the federal govt. Roads like the East- West road, like the benin Lagos road, like the PH - Owerri road, like the Aba -Ikot ekpene road, all these roads are federal roads in the Niger delta and they are all very bad.
It is criminal for Bankole to push the blame for these bad infracstructures on the Niger delta govs.

Provision of Electricity is vested on the very Government, thats why even states gov have to obtain permission from the federal govt before they can build independent power plants. For Bankole to turn around and blame the niger delta state govts for lack of electricity is condemnable.

Provision of security is vested on the federal govt. No state gov in nigeria can even sack a thiefing policeman.
For bankole to turn around and accuse the Niger delta govs of not providing security to Niger delta citizens when it is a federal responsibility is sheer madness.

in the Arewa areas of Nigeria, the federal govt build water projects with federal funds, I am yet to see a federal water project in the Niger delta. All water projects in the ND are built either by companies or the state govt.

Federal medical centres are alien to the people of the Niger delta, Federal medical centres are only dot the north.

People like bankole will not tell you the truth that after derivation is paid to the ND states very little is done by the fderal govt in the ND.
Federal roads have to be built by the Niger delta govs, example is the Warri Omadino road + Bridge, the Bomadi road + bridge, the Ahoada Omoku road, the yenegoa road. Bankole will not tell you that these federal projects were done by the state govts. because they want to simply call the Niger delta leaders crooks at all cost. even when all nigerian politicians are crooks.

Delta state govt had to build NTA stations in delta state because the federal govt will not build it, even children know that building NTA stations should be a federal venture.

Bankole is lying

the pattern is well known, people like him are only trying to incite the people of the niger delta against their leaders. They will call the Niger delta leaders corrupt so that the people will not ask for more derivation money. are govs in other parts of Nigeria better than the Niger delta govs?
Why is the corruption focus on the ND govs.

The provisional census figures as at 2006 puts the population of Nigeria at 140 million, while the Nine ND states at 31 million, where did Bankole manufacture 17million from as the population of the Niger delta.

At a population of 31million, 22% of Nigerians live in the Niger Delta, giving 13% of the revenue to 22% of the population is not doing the people a favour, there is 87% of the revenue left to be shared by the remaining 78% of Nigerians.

During obasanjos tenure, revenue allocation to he states was well publicised, at no time during those years was the allocation to any Niger delta state higher than an entire region of 6 states. the revenue allocation formula has not changed in favour of the Niger delta states since obasanjos tenure. Bankole is manufacturing these lies to justify denying federal expenditure in the niger delta.

The problems in the Delta are not manly problems to be solved by the state govts, they are problems to be solved by the federal problem.
Nigeria constitution vest ownership and maintenance of Trunk A roads on the federal govt. Roads like the East- West road, like the benin Lagos road, like the PH - Owerri road, like the Aba -Ikot ekpene road, all these roads are federal roads in the Niger delta and they are all very bad.
It is criminal for Bankole to push the blame for these bad infracstructures on the Niger delta govs.

Provision of Electricity is vested on the very Government, thats why even states gov have to obtain permission from the federal govt before they can build independent power plants. For Bankole to turn around and blame the niger delta state govts for lack of electricity is condemnable.

Provision of security is vested on the federal govt. No state gov in nigeria can even sack a thiefing policeman.
For bankole to turn around and accuse the Niger delta govs of not providing security to Niger delta citizens when it is a federal responsibility is sheer madness.

in the Arewa areas of Nigeria, the federal govt build water projects with federal funds, I am yet to see a federal water project in the Niger delta. All water projects in the ND are built either by companies or the state govt.

Federal medical centres are alien to the people of the Niger delta, Federal medical centres are only dot the north.

People like bankole will not tell you the truth that after derivation is paid to the ND states very little is done by the fderal govt in the ND.
Federal roads have to be built by the Niger delta govs, example is the Warri Omadino road + Bridge, the Bomadi road + bridge, the Ahoada Omoku road, the yenegoa road. Bankole will not tell you that these federal projects were done by the state govts. because they want to simply call the Niger delta leaders crooks at all cost. even when all nigerian politicians are crooks.

Delta state govt had to build NTA stations in delta state because the federal govt will not build it, even children know that building NTA stations should be a federal venture.

1. Niger delta needs assessment.

Which assessment and for how long was it done before abuja was built. What assessment was done before the criscross of roads and bridges were done in Lagos and abuja with ND money.

Assessment is to bye time, its a tool on insincerity.

2. Niger Delta core values.

transparency and equity

3. How should teh nation nigeria work?
let every state keep majority of the revenue generated from it. It does not make sense to have trailers leaving lagos port and distroying lagos roads while the revenue from the port is sent to Zamfara.

4. understanding the nigerian governemnt and how to be part of it.

How to be part of wuruwuru
To ND, nigeria govt is a fraud since independence

5. how do we become a nation bound in "freedom, Peace and Unity"

By implementing the wish of Gideon Okhar. Away with the parasites

6. Do justice and righteousness have a place in Nigeria?

In present day Nijer?, No

7. the 7 point agenda nad your place in it.


7 points agenda = 7 points of distraction, its all tactics to buy time


8. teh nigeria's 2020 vision- from third world to first.

Do you really believe you can run without first crawling.
We don't even have electricity. Wake up

9. free and fair elections/ governace. my role as a good citizen.

2011, more guns will be bought to rig elections. My role is to sit at home while the thugs fight it out

10. the role of education in "helping our youths the truth to know".

The University enrollment of edo and delta is higher than that of all 19 northern states combine, what has come out of it. let me hear word

I nor want my anger to erupt

Nigeria's hero or Arewa's hero

I pass this one

MrCrackles:

Comparison with other Governors is not a valid yardstick here because virtually all of them looted and bled thier respective treasuries dry!

you have now admited that your own governor stole. something you have adamantly refused to accept previously, So do next thing open a thread on him and insult him on NL.

All politicians under obj regime stole, right from obj to the LG chairman all across the country. if you want to fight corruption you address all of them that stole, right from obasanjo to the LG chairmen.

Bringing one or two ND governors to rudicle in name name of fighting corruption will achieve nothing. people see beyond the pretence.

MrCrackles:

How did Ibori become a billionaire before he become governor?
Tell me.

How did dangote become a become a billionaire in 5 yrs of abacha's rule, Olodo, tell me I will tell you how Ibori got 9 billion to declare in 1999

MrCrackles:

Awon oloshi bastards!


so u are omo yoruba, thesame people who impeach a gov for not looting and impeach a gov for building imaginary poultry for 2 billion, confused set

we are already using renewable energy, in the north they use malu to tow cart as transport, they use it ploughing the field for planting. every where we use firewood for cooking .

now we want non renewable energy, electricity from gas or oil

Beaf:
No, I don't think that's his point. I understand SapeleGuy's position perfectly. We all know that Ibori is a criminal. But there is the more subtle game that Niger Delta people are aware of; it is the political traps the FG has been laying instead of being true to their word and resolving the ND issues once and for all. There are a lot of paid nagative propaganda mongers spreading deliberate falsehoods and hyping anything negative about the ND to the exclusion of all else.

Looks like someone is is also understading the politics and double standards inherent in Nigeria.

Thats why people have to take to arms to get the attention of the federal govt.

MrCrackles:
Are you shitting me?
Nigeria's greatest son
Do you mean Nigeria's greatest thief?
Where did a common home superstore sales attendant in the UK before he moved to Nigeria (And into politics) get all his wealth from?
What more proof do you need to conclude Ibori is a bloody thief whose blood platelets are filled with corruption particles?

.

You have to live with it whether you like it or not.

Ibori is among the greatest men delta state has produced. You may call him any name you like but he brought more development to Delta State than any Governor before him.

Also compared to other governors during there tenure, he was among the best performers with regards to structures built on the ground.

so if you decide to convict him of looting the finance of his state even before he is tried, then thats your beaf. He was elected to bring development to his people and he did just that. Can you say thesame of your state governor?

In your warped logic of concluding that Ibori looted than your governors, you fail to realise that he was a billionaire before he became governor

Carlosein:
and what happens when we all see Lamido Sanusi on any of the lists?

You will not see it. It will be removed before publishing the names