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@Babyosisi; I read your entry, which was register fot today's 2.28.29 am. Therein you raised the following issues;
1. Time to take to creat: You alluded to 4+2+2=8. It is as if you state that God is not capable of doing more that one thing at the same time. You forgot that Allah, the All powerful has the power to creat as soon as He decees a thing; All He says is "Be", and it is. You need to know about creation, God said that He created in Six days. (Surah A'raf (7;54)).

2. Crucifixion as means of punishment by pharaoh: Is it not true that the the babylonian (Modern day Iraq), was where Ibrahiim came from. It is not true that Ibrahiim era was earlier than the era of Musa. It it not true that if the babylonian used this method that it was already known to people before the 'Pharaoh' usage of it to punish those magicians who he thought made him and his authority look very low, indeed. It is not known, also that other civilizations used it before the pharaoh of Musa (AS to Musa and Haruun).

3. The Golden calf mooing: The person who was mensioned is Samiri, a member of the party that left Egypt with Musa (AS). I do not know how you come about Samaritan person. Oh, I get it. You are trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

4. Ezra to the Jews being son of God; Babyosisi, do you know any Jewish scholar? Ask him. He will tell you that they gave him honorarium godsonship. I know. I have a bunch of them in Borough Park section of Brooklyn. I have ethnic Jew/Children of Israel who was studying to become a Rabbi, now he is a Muslim. His name is Musa Cohn. His Children names are Daud and mariam. (God bless them all).

5. About Alexander the great. (Zul Qainain); In the appendix of Yusuf Ali, where you brought about your usual inference (Conjecture), there is no definate indication that this identity refers to your conclusion.

In the first place, Yusuf Ali said that it could refer to a Persian King that was probably mentioned in the Jewish Book of daniel, or the pre historic Yemen King as well. He further spoke about Alexander the great, since this personality that grab your attention. He said that Alexander the great was a pagan, but the Ethiopic traditional story about him was that the considered him as one of their great prophet. No where did he call him a great Muslim. No where did he talk about him living to a ripeful old age. By the way what is a ripeful old age? Is it going to be a known number that will be the same in present day Japan and 3 centuaries ago Congo's Pigmese society? Yusuf Ali describes Alexander the great as a man who was honest, somewhat good. Neither one of these characteristics is exclusive to a man who believes that God exist, or for that matter a Muslim.

6. About trinity and the mother of god in the Qur'an: Please tell me, is it not true that the Roman Catholic pray/worship an image known as mary mother of God. As a matter of fact is there not a prayer that is known as hail mary!

7. mary the Mother of jesus (AS), being called sister of Haruun, etc. Please tell me, is it not true that all man and woman are called children of Adam? Could you tell me the generation vaseness of Adam (AS) to our present generation versus Musa and haruun to Mariam Ummu Isa bin mariam? I am from Ijebu ode yet, every Ijebu Ode person is called Omoobanta. Indeed every yoruba person is called Omoooduwa. Igbo people must have something similar!

What is so strange, is that after all your research of the qur'an, you came up with all of these. You cleverly ignored where it speaks about disbelef and where it spoke about Jesus and his mother. You do not want to lear about the true condition of Jesus and his mother. Yet, you struggle from elementary school up to the highest level of education you have, to learn about new things. I remember meeting an american girl who was married to an Igbo Doctor in delawaere. She said that when she first visited Nigeria, the nephew of her husband in Igboland would reel in laughter the moment she opened her mouth to speak in English. Why, because she spke very stangely by the hearing of these young people. They are probably used to a Brit speech. But that is not to say that she is not speaking proper English!

Just because your Bible does not teach you the whole truth about jesus, and any about Muhammad (AS, to both of them), does not mean truth is known. God has revealed it in the Qur'an. The Jews who do not believe anything about Jesus (AS), does not by that change the true condition of the messiahship of Jesus to them!

Nice try my girl, nice try.

@Babyosisi: Ignorance does not only means unaware, but in this case, for you and Orikinla and the passes who can not write except that they are loud and caustic, it is knowingly hiding the truth.

Afterall, Islam is meant for those who think, observe, reflect, etc. I read how you bend anything islamic to advance your cocept of christianity's understanding of jesus, from the eye of paul.

It is a good thing that zainab, who is a Lawyer has heart of Gold to accept Islam, the moment she heard about it. God will give her double reward. One portion for believing what she believed before, then an equally complete full portion as she accepts the lastest truth that will last for eternity. Yet, she is young and from the royalty of Owerri, part of the heart of Igboland!

Whether you want it or not, or even if the whole Islamic nations reject it, Allah will raise a new people who will Love Him and He will love them back. See, in America, indeed, the relatively new world, which include Europe, the indegenous are tripping over oneanother in their coming into islam.

Indeed, former Cat Stevens is a good English example. In America, indeed, David Wolf, an ethnic Jew,an a senior journalist from ABC-News is a good example. Islam cut accross ethnic, financial and academic lines. The issue is that you should safe yourself and your family, while each is stillalive. Jesus or anyone, except God Himself is not the Atimate DECIDER!

@Wumine: Is it true or a greater possibility that those who are eyewitnesses/companions, are the ones who have greater accurate information. This should be better and more reliable that those who have hearsay accounts. the first generation should be greater than later generations. In all cases, there should not be any group that will be better in providing information that is reliable as the eyewitnessing group. Further, what good is it that an individual is a companion of a religious personality of the stature of Prophet Jesus (AS), if this companion has nothing to contribute?

According to the Bible, Jesus had 12 companions. What happened to the account of each of the companions of the saying, actions and indeed the teachings of their leader? Is it possible that a large portion of them are in direct conflict with what the church leadership wants the christians to know. Is it indeed different from what Paul, the 'new companion, who was never a companion' in conjuction with his cohorts, wants the christians to know. Really, we see that the rule of Mosaic laws was bent or completely discarded, in an effort to recruit non Jewish followership. This is a concept different from what the Bible reports that jesus did. Qur'an confirms this, that Jesus was sent only to the children of Israel.

Most christians quote the letters of Paul to the unsuspected communities, instead of what Jesus (AS) said. Fortunately, we have the Qur'an to tell us the truth. Paul writing now dominates the New Testament. It overshadows what jesus was claimed to have said and did. Even though Paul was a companion of Jesus, but that will still not stop the Pro Pauline doctrine, which is the mainstream of the christianity, as we know it.

Please pay attention to the fact that the Jewish population, during the lifetime of Jesus (AS), onward to the present time, have refused to even accept Jesus as a prophet, not to even think of him as their Massiah. In essence, Jesus was seen by the Jews for the most part, in the same light, even up to the present time, in the same way, as the Christians of today see Muhammad. Does it mean that Jesus was not a prophet and/or Messiah to the Christian of Israel? No. Regardless of what the Jews think of him. Since the christians have been sold a bill of goods, however inaccurate, they transfer sonship to Jesus. Hench, they believe that God did not produce another prophet after Jesus (AS). When that prophet was actually non Children of Israel, then the Jews, even as the recognized him to be the prophet they have been expecting in Madina, they worked very hard to cover the truth. Yet, it was their expectation of this prophet of madina that made them took a great migration to madina, relative to other Arabian penusula city or town at the time.

I major uniqueness of The Deity, apart and different from His Creations, is that God has no beginning nor ending. This simply means as He has qualified Himself, that He was before any and all of His Creations. He was no conceived, nor did He conceive any. All are His creations!

God tells Muhammad (AS), in the Qur'an, that he should say to mankind, specifically those that associate offsprings with the All Unique, that if there have been an Offspring from God, Muhammad (AS), would have been the first to worship him. The sentence, in itself is very clear. It has shown negation of any likeliness of such a possibility! God says in the Qur'an that do people not see that Juseus (AS) and his mother are ordinary mortals, needing daily foods and sustenants, like every one? Read Suratul Al maidah and Mariam in the Qur'an about Jesus (AS) and his mother.

Somebody alluded to Ezra (AS), as he has been described in the Qur'an. This person, does not know that the description is true, in the sense that the Jews call him honorarium son of God. But not as the blatant and outright concept of christians' (the calling of Jesus son of God, yet in the real sense of it, it means the same thing, since this is forging a lie against their Creator!).

It is true that God is capable of going all things. However, He restricts Himself and does not do the things which do not fit His Majesty. Some of those things are that He comes out of the canal of a being, like in helplessness of a new born. He does not have to walk the surface of the earth to understand His creations. He knows all of His creations, sees and hears each and everyone, individually and can accept, therefore answer the petitions, even if all are to gather together and petition Him at the same time! Those who claim that God (Allah, the Almighty), can not see, hear and therefore can reach them, these are the inmate of Hell. There they will live forever. Afterall, some people deserve to go to Hell anyway. A well known example is Pharaoh who drwoned in the sea. Jibril related the story to Muhammad (AS). Jibril said that when this tyrant saw the reality of his evil ways, he now began to declare his faith in Allah, (tThe God of Moses and Aroon). However, Jibril began to pack the mud of the bottom of that sea into Pharaoh's mouth, not allowing him to make that proper declaration. God then said that Pharaoh body will be saved for the future generations to see.

Today, if you ask any anthropologists, any who know anything about the history of Egypt, you will clearly learn that the body pf that Pharaoh is available in Egypt for all to see!Such is the power of God, unique in all His descriptive attributes. However, never did He once, directly or indirectly call Himself father of any person or that anyone is His offspring.

@Bobbyaf: Thank you. Let everyone examine himself or herself.

@Babyosisi; No one is looking to the Bible to prove that Muhammad is Ahmad. It is all in the Al Qur'an! You will never know it, because at the moment, you have a beef with God, His religion ordained on you and me, His Book and His beloved Messenger (AS). May God open your heart to receive guidance.

@TayoD: Please quote all the verses of the Bible that mentioned Comforter as it still remain in the Bible. You will see that the Bible's Comforter was a living and breathing entity. You see, you are a human being, God will only send your kind to you. Another human, not a ghost or unseen spirit! Also, inj the Bible, Jesus used spirit for prophet in a verse or many.
If you will not put them forward, I will. But I hate to do your Bible job for you. Moreover, you have some dead weights, who are not allowing you and me to engage in meaningful discussions. They just have to put their two bits into it! I hate discussing with them, directly or indirectly. Infact, I pay them no mind, like flies on the wall.

@Babyosisi: Your hatred of Islam, must have created such a blinding rage in you, so much so, that everything Islam must be creating an 'emotional distaster' for you. I understand the foolishness of your compatriots, but you even began to surpass them in blatant disregard for honesty! How do you cook up the lies that you are spewing about your Creator (At least, as an Igbo woman, you will not deny that He is Chineke. Yet, to the English people or the Jews, Chineke means nothing to them). Try speaking the truth, sometimes.

I thought if you are ignored, long enough, you may come to your senses. I can understand your brothers, who are drenching in pure arrogance, failing to realise that arrogance is the core of disaster! They present their argument without logic and practical application. I guess, it is safe to have 'blind faith.' I bet their response to me on  this entry will be pure vulgarity. Their arguments, maybe as the result of the 'blind faith', are always filled in with, in part unfounded accusations, or reanting and raving in verbal abuse or using of infantile icons.

Instead of standing up and be grownups, these people provide me and others 'comic relief' with their entries. They often write as if they are sounding off, acting as if they are in a boxing match, looking for that one knockout punch. But you can see that they are like professional wrestlers, creative, but full of  illusion, pure and simple. If I have not made a conscious decision not to ever respond to them, I have a lot to say about their weak arguments;

Is it very difficult for the Lord of the World, Who created all things from nothingness and without prior example and then created Adam, without prior existence of Human. From Adam, He created his mate. From these two a range of people, in different hues. (He  was at some time, before creation was alone, neither wary nor lonely).

Tell me, is it so difficult to creat a man from the body of a woman, alone by the same Creator? When that Creator has created the same type of fatherless being in the ant/termite kingdom (Please note that the worker ant/soldier of the ant/termite colony is hatched from unfertilized/without the male sperm or semen added to the egg). You know that the Fertility clinics are nowadays, capable of producing babies, without sexual intercourse. Even they have experimented on  using the manipulation of the genes, to engage in production, eg the 'Dolly' lamb!

Babyosisi, falacy is not a means of winning any point, in the real sense of it. Whether, you or the rest of the world like it or not, Allah has decided the matter. Islam is going to be victorious. The altimate victory will be in the day of Judgement. We are are all seeking the mercy of God.

It it will benefit you to have answers to your questions, then I will answer every one of them. However, what kind of benefit is there for you since you have your heart so locked up in the Triune concept of god! Even though jesus prayed to his Lord. That tells you that God is separate and different from jesus. When jesus said that his God and the God of those who asked him about god is but One God!

@Wumine: What is it that you experienced in Islam, that turned you to christianity? Further, you can have a"grudge' with individuals, but not with your Creator. Regardless, God, the  Almighty Creator is perfect, always, in full authority. Wumine, the fact that Islam, is not 'envogue', does not change the condition of it, with Allah. Allah has promised that He will punish those who come to Him in the day of Judgement, with any other way but islam.

Allah says to Muhammad and it is the same saying to other previous Prophets, 'This is my way, the part that is straight' In the Qur'an, you will find the mission of Jesus (AS), is essentially of two parts; to redirect the the children of Israel to the religion that the old prophets followed, with emphasis laid on Mosaic laws. The second part was to proclaim the coming of the Messenger, whose name is 'Ahmad.'

Not everyone who call themselves christians agree with the personage of Jesus (AS). Some claim that he is god, yet others say that he is in addition son of god, yet others disagree altogether with eithr of the two premises, but say he is a prophet. In addition, the Catholic assigns mother of god to mary. Both Mary and her son, Jesus are ordinary humans. They eat and depended on God the Almighty, for everyhing! Nothing can be done without God. Read about jesus (AS), then you know that when you worship, it should be directed to God, not any of the entities that ever walked the surface of the earth.

Be on the look out for my write up that clearly points to the birth of Jesus(AS). However you color it, there is only One God. He is without partner.

@Wumine: What is it that you experienced in Islam, that turned you to christianity? Further, you can have a"grudge' with individuals, but not with your Creator. Regardless, God, the Almighty Creator is perfect, always, in full authority. Wumine, the fact that Islam, is not 'envogue', does not change the condition of it, with Allah. Allah has promised that He will punish those who come to Him in the day of Judgement, with any other way but islam.

Allah says to Muhammad and it is the same saying to other previous Prophets, 'This is my way, the part that is straight' In the Qur'an, you will find the mission of Jesus (AS), is essentially of two parts; to redirect the the children of Israel to the religion that the old prophets followed, with emphasis laid on Mosaic laws. The second part was to proclaim the coming of the Messenger, whose name is 'Ahmad.'

Not everyone who call themselves christians agree with the personage of Jesus (AS). Some claim that he is god, yet others say that he is in addition son of god, yet others disagree altogether with eithr of the two premises, but say he is a prophet. In addition, the Catholic assigns mother of god to mary. Both Mary and her son, Jesus are ordinary humans. They eat and depended on God the Almighty, for everyhing! Nothing can be done without God. Read about jesus (AS), then you know that when you worship, it should be directed to God, not any of the entities that ever walked the surface of the earth.

Be on the look out for my write up that clearly points to the birth of Jesus(AS). However you color it, there is only One God. He is without partner.

@Wumine: Why not try Islam, since you have difficulty with other(s). I ask God the Almighty Allah to guide you and others to see the truth. Amiin.

@Orikinla: Islam is not a religion that people should be afraid of. Islam is not exclusive to any ethicity nor any ethnicity exclusive to Islam. Orikinla, do yourself a favor, practice Islam for a whole year. This will be a small portion of your life to find the truth of it.

Afterall, I went to Christian High school, spending 5years and studied the Bible. I was also born by a christian mother, who up to just 2 years ago, was a methodist. Alhamdulillah, she converted to islam, willingly at her old age of almost 80! After your practice for a year, give us your findings. We will believe you in anything that you say of it. Afterall, it will be your own experience, not just some concorted idea because of your dislike of it as it iconoclasically go against, godship, godsonship or crucifixion of Jesus (AS).

@Orikinla: It seems that you are ignorant of Islam. The best way for you, really, is to laern about Islam. You should do this with open mind and ask God to help you to its truth. I will not engage in an empty debate with you, this time around. Your obsession with Islam is very obviuos, yet you refuse to learn its truth.

@Babyosisi: I do not respond to your comment. However, i recommend that you go to www.shareislam.com. This is a web of a former white Christian from Texas, who is now a notable Muslim missionary, A Dahii. As a matter of fact, I have heard that he may be related to the notable of Texas!

@TayoD: You or me can not change the truth, whether we like it or not. the truth is always the truth. That been said, I want you to tell me all the many different versions and prints, updated and edited Bible(S), which one is true, really?
Are you the one setting the standard of truth or it is God that sets standard of truth that is assured?

The Catholic Bible have many books more than the Protestants'. Never mind the editions and the updates and the newly edited versions! Infact, the Bible are diverse and many to actually bring any one of it forward to be rekorned with. Will you then say that the Seventh day adventist Bible is not a true Bible, or will you claim the Jehovah Witness's bible is not a true Bible or is it the Mormon's, all of these group are in America! Yet, every so often, there is an offshoot raising itself up in Christiendom, fighting for recognition!

If the any passage of the Bible is confirmed by the Qur'an, then, I will use it to buttress my position. In essece, it is Qur'an that i am using, but i am giving you a material that you are familiar with.

For example, since Qur'an says that jesus (AS) was not god, sonof god, was not crucified or killed, I disbelieve the Bible account, which is contrary to Qur'an's.

As per the Visit of Muhammad to Jerusale, on his way to heavens and beyond, you need to read Suratul najm, that this event is not a dream state event. It is in Body and Soul. You will see the descriptions of this event in this surah! This is one of the reason that Abu bakr (RA) was given the Qunya (Nickname) Siddiq. When the people asked muhammad to describe Masjid Aqsa in Jerusalem, he gave them a full description of it, almost instantly. You must remember that he was not so concern about Jerusalem on this Night, it was his journey to heavens and beyond that was memorable. He met prophets (AS) and dialogued with them. He was prescribed the salah for his Ummah on this occassion and the last part of Suratul baqarah was given to him, directly without Jibril (AS)! The tashahuud in Salah was a conversation between him and His Lord on this occassion, to.

Read the quality of your Bible 'Comforter", you will have to agree that it is not a thing that has no wight, volume and texture,inshort, it is not a ghost! It is a Human being. Please qualify the 'Comforter' in your mind and you will come to know that it is not a ghost!

TayoD, you must be a man that can think things through. I know that between you and me, some body is truly not telling the truth. Maybe because he is unaware of this falsehood. Also it maybe that he has been deceived and clinging stubbornly to thr deceit. For sure, the two of us can not be correct on this matter, since we are on opposite viewpoint.

You wish to qualify the holiness of Muhammad (AS), when his Lord is enough as a Witnes of his goodliness? Let us discuss real issues and not just throwing mud, just because you may score some points, regardless, if it is true or not!

@Babyosisi: Muhammad (AS) came to eradicate discrimination and other ills of the society. Only hypocrites could put something unprophetic as an action or record and attributes them to any prophet!

We will discuss at later time. I have to run and be busy for a few days.

@TayoD: I will welcome a civil discuss with you. But you must promise me that there will not be any cursing! It there is any, I will stop.

Now about jarusalem; You must know that Muhammad (AS), made a Night Journey to the place. It is in Suratul Isra, its first verse. Why do you think the Dome of the Rock is Masjid and the A;l Aqsa Masjid Complex is so crucial to the Muslims and the others are bent on its destruction?

Please read about the verse on the comforter in the Bible, again. You will see that the Comforter is a walking on the earth, talking and repeats all that 'he' hears entity! He does not change, para phrase or in any shape or form, make things up!

@Babyosisi; Some day, soon, I will have the time to read through that entry of yours. i will endeavor to respond to some very serous points. However, did you know that Muhammad(AS), wet nurse was a black woman, hajar was an Egyptian, when black people were the rulers and kings of Egypt?

Did you know that Bilal ibni rabba (RA), the Muhaddin of Rasuul (AS), was a former slave, whose freedom was paid for by his brother in islam, Abu bakr (RA)? Did you know that no one used it against him, after the death of the prophet (AS), to keep Bilal (RA), in Madina? Did you know that umar bin khattab (RA), the seconf Khalifah, used to refer to Bilal as his seyidd (Master in knowledge)? Did you know that in the Night Journey and the accension to heaven that muhammad (AS) had, he reported that he saw the feet of Bilal in paradise?

How do you write about the things you do not know about! Blackness, is neither a curse or a blessing. It is the way God has created some of His Servants. I guess that every hue fit in the collage of the coloration that God has made mankind!

@Babyosisi: I happened to glance through your very lenghty entry. it is very interesting, to say the least. Allah states in the Qur'an; If there has been that there is other god than Allah, you would have seen that the god is trying to struggle against Allah. Allah also asked; Which is better in directive, a servant that has one master or the one that has three masters, each trying to undo and outshine one another in authority to their servant? This is the case with Qur'an with just one Author, versus, the Bible with its over 40 authors (this is your claim)?

In the power or commandment of God, aren't we 'mechanical', rather than the free flowing, according to your referenced writer you proudly quoted. Maybe that is why he said that the Bible is God's 'dictates', but in men chosen words! I now can see why there are so many discrepancies in the Bible! God allows the writers to choose their own understanding, hence it sometimes contracdict, even on the same subject!

However, the qur'an, being 'MECHANICAL' at that, it has no room for change. Babyosisi, have you any Idea what language those writers wrote their 'ORIGINAL' portions of the Bible in? Can we see a copy of it. I mean what is copied from the original portions? If it is true that we can see any, for certain, you have not seen it, you may find out the truth that the Muslims, male and females on Nairaland have been telling you all along; The Bible is corrupted!

Further you are defending the Bible by giving us writings and letters of Paul and his cohorts. Even though, it sometimes contradicts Jesus and other early prophets sayings! You ask us to blindly believe, even though, there is no logic to such thinking!

Its it not writing in your Bible that God is not the Author of confusion? God in the Bible use singular for Himself. Yet you divide God up to three parts? Its it written in the Bible that verify all things and hold on to what is true. How is that Jesus worshipped God, you discard that function of Jesus and began to worship him! Where in the Bible that you can point to us the commandment of Jesus(AS) saying that human should worship him? Where did he say that he brought a new religion and that religion is different from the religion of Moses, Joseph (not a Jew, but a brother to Judah), Jacob (the father of Judah), Isiaac, Ibrahiim, Noah , etc?


in the Qur'an, you will read about the Sole Author and He also confirms that He will protect the Uncorruptibility of it. This Author is your Creator and mine.

To the disputants, who think that Islamic paradise is too far fetched, I ask this question: If mere mortals dazzle you with their greatness in creating what some of you have termed 'paradise', what do you think of the Paradise of God? God's Paradise is so great, that there is no amount of good, that a man /woman can enjoy on this earth, that will be near to it! All that all creations, put together, which include man, will enjoy from beginning of time and to the end of time, is less than One part of God's Mercy. God will give 99 parts of Mercy to the people of Paradise. What we have then, is that, paradise is so great, that the earth can never contain it, it has to be created, separated as a reward for doing good.

The flip side of it is that, Hell is such a gruesome place, it has to be created separatedly. The evil doers who disbelieve will remain, parmanently, in fire of Hell without any mercy of God. When the dwellers of Hell see it and experience it, they will wish that they has remained in their wretched life on this earth. It would have been as if it was paradise !

however, those who have been ransomed by Allah, the Almighty and never have spent anytime in Hell, they will think that their life on earth , when they look back at it, that truly they had been in Jail on earth!

@RevDaniel: There are three things that are not beffitting to God. So He will not do any of them; Having a family, vis a vis child/children come to mind along with the mother. This act does not fit the Majesty f God. they are meant for the being that need procreation, mankind comes to mind.

God does not need to have the functional qualities that we human beings have; eg eating, drinking, tiredness or resting, etc. God is unlike you and me in every way. All the above are for the being that He created. The costodianship of His creation is within His capacity. He guides it, always and constantly in full quality in His attributes. When He guides, He is the Best Guide. His Mercy extend beyond our capability. He gives aboundantly, without measure.

Nothing has the capacity to grasp Him. Hence, He does not have to come to the earth to walk among mankind to experience the condition of His creation so that he can thereby be suffered so that they will be forgiven through this act! Inshort, it is He, the God Almighty alone who existed, before He bagan to creat, even then His majesty was full. He was not lonely therefore longing for companionship. It was in His Mercy that He creats, wishing to reward true believers and meter out justice to unbelievers.

God does have power to control all things. It is Him alone that Mercifully forgives and only He can punish.

@Babyosisi: No muslim man is using the beard to hid anything. The beard is a sign of obedience to suggestion of Prophet Muhammad (AS). Also all the previous prophets (AS), Jesus, included in this group are reported to have wore beards! Was Jesus cleanshaven, ever? So, marry somebody who has the quality of your god. At least encourage your intended to acquire such a value.

@Lafile: Did you ever pay attention to how much Muhammad (AS) in particular and in a lesser sense, his true followers (Believing men and women), deprived themselves the things you claimed they indulged in?
Sexual pervertions and Lust: True Muslim men are faithful to the sanctity of marriage. I know. The black men who became muslims in America do not stray like the rest of the general black population. A well known Black Imam is Suraj Wahhaj in NYC. Please compare him to Rev. Jesse jackson or Bill Cosby!
Using a white Muslim Imam to illustrate the dominant race in America, Sheik Hamza Yusuf of Saituna Institute, in Hayward, outside Oakland has a better quality than the former of present president, in spousal commitment. Most muslim men around are married to just one wife.

Gluttony: Are you aware that there is a month called ramadan, which is dedicated to fasting? Are you also aware that Muhammad (AS), encourage people to fast Mondays, Thursays, the first three days of a new moon, the three days of full moon, the nine days of the month of hajj, days number Nine and ten and even eleven of the month of Muharram and other contributory voluntary fasts?

How is it that a leader who encourages his followers to practice these virtues could be described in the picture that you had conjured up?
It is well known that the Prophet (AS) encourage anyone who is not married, for whatever the financial and other reasons may be to fast so that the sexual desire is greatly arrested. He encouraged to eat to fill the stomach just up to a third and drink to fill another third, while leaving a third empty so that you can be capable of going about your duties and be light on your feet. Muhammad (AS) so never described to be fat because of abundance. He encouraged people to share their foods.

When you work hard and you are given the reward of that work, often, the reward may be excessive to those do not know the value of your work. For example, if you do make good money as salary or payment from business, a poor person may think that you have been paid too much for your effort. For sure paradise should be more superior in quality that the best values of the earth. God is making Paradise as a reward for those who did good and He is pleased with them and hence this was His Mercy.

Do you expect hardship in pParadise. Lafile? You must never forget that paradise must have the things that are very familiar with what we have on earth. If houris was mentioned and you did not know that they are females, you will probable ask what are they. However, things of paradise, however familar to the things of this earth, the quality and the description are not in the least equal.

Lafile, please describe the christian paradise. Are you going to continue to worship as hard as you do on this earth. Are you going to be doing your own grocery shopping, the cooking, etc. Are you going to be as if you are on this earth. What is the reward of any good that you have stored up with God, then, if your condition is no different from the earthly condition.

Finally, take the case of the celibated priests and nuns. Let just assume that they are in the christian paradise. Now, from your dislike for the Muslim Paradise, this group of people will never on earth and in heaven know the joy of sex. You on the other hand, who used to like it on earth, will be deprived of it when you get to heaven. (Unfortunately, most christians, males and females are very lucid when it comes to being faithful to their spouses. They have one official spouse, but a hoard of bed partners! They even practice spousal swapping and sexual orgies in this dangerious time)

@Babyosisi: The quality that a virgin will possess, by God, through Islam I have it. This is one of the rewards of being a muslim. Since i am a follower of that Comforter, who Jesus(AS), spoke so lovingly about, that will show you all things, I have acquired a greater understanding of my relationship with God and His creations. I am a better husband, a better father, a better son, a better sibling and a better associate.

Islam is not just the duty of worship, it is the totality of being alive!

You should know better that bearded man are more desired that the ones who are artificially looking like women, daily. Take the case of Ojukwu. When he was younger and bearded, you will see real man and authority in him. Today, I think the pressure of poor nigeria kind of make him compromise his position. Beard that are well groomed is as supple as thick, raw cashmere coat.

@TayoD: Prophet Muhammad (AS), was also described as having kept his hair short and headshaven, as well! He wore thr hair on his head in many different ways, at different periods of his noble life. All of the ways that he had kept his hair are okay with me. I have a choice from them. In the past, I used to shave my head clead. Presently, I have a full head of hair.

About you concern of Tatawa, you need none from me. The life of every man or woman is safe in my hand.

@Babyosisi; I was just browsing through when I saw your referencing of me about the 'virgins' of paradise. I also need virgin on earth, too. I have still opening within the limit of 4 wives. the question is this, are you a virgin and do you fit the houri's billing?
Further, you will not know how manness is until you have a relationship with bearded man! I wear a beard and i look better and manly. Unlike those who intend to look like females, shaving obsessively. They, some of them even went to the extreme that they began to wear earring. I wonder when a man wearing earing is going to bed, does he remove this object as women normally do? Who really is the man or the woman in such a spousal relationship.

@Orikinla: You do know that in Qur'an and the Sunnah, it is Haram that one should take ones life (Suicide). I agree with your birth of Jesus, by a Virgin woman, his coming back. However, I disagree with you on the death on the cross and of course, your statement that he died for 3 days! If you are to calculate, using Semitic calendar, from Sundown to sundown asa full day, at best you have less than 2 days, from Friday evening to Sunday morning! Again, as I have stated above I am not one to believe in the Crucifixion. The essence of hanging and death on the cross amount to cursing of the soul! Jesus (AS) soul is not a cursed soul, it is a noble soul. You should do your research on crucifixion on the ancient people that are used to using this method for killing the evil people among them!

You must also realise, that Muhammad (AS), gave details and method of life and living a good life. This includes the methodology of having a preparation for life, before the life was born, then raising the life up, the life living independently, raising family by this life and then dying of, burial, etc. Such is Muhammad (AS), since in your Bible the spirit is used synonimously for prophet!

Orikinla, you are a good man. You are smart. You are unlike some of the folks who are book smart, alone, but are foul mouthed and can not hold civil discusses! People like you, I pray that you receive guidance and the light of the Almighty enters your heart. God sent Jesus (AS) for a mission. God sent others before him and sent one after him. All of them are good souls. God is the only True Saviour. However, if any lived in the time of Musa (AS), ignoring him, but followed Nuh or Ibrahiim, instead, that person is a disbeliever! In the same breath, if anyone lived in the time of Jesus(AS), but chosed to follow MUsa (AS), such a person is a disbelievr!

However, you and me are not living in the time of Isa (AS). We are living in the time that it under the prophethood of Muhammad (AS), believe it or not. Therefore, no one is in guidance except that person follows Muhammad (AS)!

Your inquiry about the marital situation of the prophet can be summarized as follows; It is partly political, since Islam does not separate politics from religion. Also, the marriages fostered alliances and family and tribal ties. It is Allah who decides all matters and yould read Suratul Ahzab (the Confederates) and his adith and seerah.

However, I will like to stop and give a disclaimer that I dislike keeping the company of those who talk badly about God, His prescibed religion for mankind, His prophets and truly believing people.

@Orikinla: I am not argueing with you. No. far from it. I am not an intelligent man nor smart. However, God will direct everyone of us as per the state of our Soul and then the muscle that is lodged between our breasts.

On my mother side, they are royaly and one that is known throughout the Yorubaland and beyond because of their education and sphere of influence. From my father side, the name is well known amongst the elders of Ijebuland. However, Islam consumed my father's bloodline for many centuaries, just as early as Islam came to the Yorubas. Those amongst them who have deviated, i am asking God the Almighty Allah to return them as soon as possible. On my mother's side, we have islam getting to them, but they are more christian and still tradional at that. This is a big project for me. Only God can guide and tomorrow is far from being guarantted to anyone!

I want to ask you one question, though, in all the centuaries that Jesus had left the earth, has anyone in Christiandom seen the Holy spirit as the comforter that he used the male pronoun to qualify as he will lead you to all things, since Jesus (AS) did not by this statement in his own admition lead his companions to all things. I am not saying that Jesus could not, but it is clear that it was not part of his missionary! This is such the action of TRUE PROPHET. Never going beyond his prescribed duties nor derick in it!

@Orikinla: The three verses of the Qur'an that talks about Jewish and Christianand other religious scriptures believe, are not saying that if you believe in each one of them, today and die not accepting the Qur'an and Islam, instead that you will go to paradise. No. From one of the verses, you have the answer, because said that He willjudge between them in the day of Judgement.

This simply means that there was a time that Torah was pure. At least, when Musa (AS0, was receiving it and those who followed him then were true believers. When the Musa died, sometime after this, the Torah began to see corruptions entered into it. Then Isabin Mariam (AS) came and began to receive his revelation. At this time, the truth that remain in the Toral, Jesus was practicing it along with his 'New' revelation. All the children of Israel were supposed to follow him, as the ambassador to the rest of the world after their proper education from him. We all know that the large population of this people did not accept him. During his earthly life, whoever followed him were also true believers.

Later on, after he has been lifted to his Lord (YOu do believe in this event, don't you?), corruption began to enter into his revelation, just as it had entered into the revelation of Musa (AS).  When Muhammad (AS), began his miniostry, the Jews and Christians saw the signs of prophethood in him, a lot of those from this accepted his religion, knowing it to be in the same truth as the Puritan condition of Musa and Isa revelations and religion! But a larger group did not accept him.

Why is it that you have Jews in Madina and just a handful in other towns, before the arrival of Muhammad? The Jews knew from their book that a prophet will be raised up in Madina. They thought, the prophet will come from them, since the line of prophethood had remained with them for many centuaries. They also believed that the prophet will fight only on their side, regardly what that side may be, truth of falsehood. It was a shock to them when the Makkan Arab, in the personage of Muhammad (AS), emerged as that prophet!

The person who first saw Muhammad (AS) arriving in Madina from makka was a Jewish Rabbi. In time, he asked Muhammad, as soon as he arrived in madina, to let him see his back. Muhammad (AS) showed him his back. On the skin betwen Muhammad's two shoulder blades, you find araised Impression, which is the sign of Prophethood/Messengership. Upon this Rabbi seeing this, he told this young companion that this is truly a prophet, but they as Jews will have to fight him all the way> A similar condition occurred, when Muhammad as a youth of less than 15 accompanied his guidian, his Uncle, Abi talib to Syria. On the way a Christian monk say the cloud in sky erading the coming of the party which the noble soul was in. When they entered this monks presence to eat, without Muhammad, who was sitting outside, he demanded that they brought him in for him to question this honored guest.

His Uncle claimed he was his father, which the christian monk said it was impossible, that at that age, both his parent should been dead, already. When he saw the sign of prophethood on Muhammad (AS), he asked his Uncle to return Muhammad to makka, immediately. He said that if the jews found him out they will try to kill him. In this wise, God the Almighty protected Muhammad! In the affiars of Muhammad, God  Allah the Almighty is sufficient enough as a Witness.