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@gigitte; I thought my question of 3 all of a sudden becoming one is more of a math problem, not behaviors of particles or the characteristics of matter and the analysis of wave. Please that you have in the Bible that each of the three entities are complete as separate entities. Then I wonder what happened when Jesus was praying and asking that his cup be taken away from him. Who was he asking and praying to. When he asked that a will belonging to some entity be done who was that entity and in what role of personality was that entity. When jesus was expiring according to the Bible, who was he asking that he had been forsook. Is that entity his equal or higher. When Jesus died according to the Bible did the other two died as well. Who was overseeing the creations at the time of the death of jesus. When jesus was in his mother's womb, who was still in charge of the creations. My sister, physics does not apply here and you need to reflect.

@davidylan; I think you must remember that that still did not take away the fact that Essau was on earth longer than Jacob, further there is no support of this topic in the Qur'an. My brother you must never forget just because a person is poor, he does not really loose all the days, weeks or years that he/she has over that has been spent on the surface of this earth. If you are a yoruba man, you must have heard when it is stated that Olowo lagba ' the wealthy are the elders'. it does not mean they are alive longer. For sure, Ismail did not sell his right of birth to Isiaqa.

It is not the position of the Muslims to preserve or help the christians about the failure to have seen an authetic Bible. The Qur'an is a proof enough. By the way which version of the Bible is real then. Is it KJV, NKJV, the American versions. For example the one that I used in High school prior to 71, is different from the one given to the new entrants of 71.

It is very hard to deal with you. I have to restrict my tongue to deal with you. You will go far in life if you are less harsh. You will catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

@davidylan.
If you are sincere that you are looking for good reasons to have a true thought about religion, then may God help you and all of us to the right path of His mercy. Now, tell me what questions you will like and please quote the Qur'an or hadith. Remember that you have what we call hadith Kursi and the other hadith is classified by the chain of narrations from strong to weak. When hadith is weak, I will let you know.

Happy trail.

My people, but the world was predicted to end in August 2006. What happened. Is this just like the many predictions of old which ended in a wimper.

The christian write and caryy on as if they have a contract with God. Some of them are claiming that they will not dieand therefore judged in that state. My people, unfortunately, when death comes no one can delay it. You will unable to tell the once who are still alive the reality at that time, even thoygh you might have loved them so dearly while death has not overtaken you.

Some try to explain away the Bible verses, but they have no authority nor having any scholarship. The real issue is whether the material source that you are using is pure or even a good source for that matter. It does not matter the luster, a fools gold is exactly that. It has no weight.

You need the god, who protects and is the Only One that can forgive. Not the Okey dokey concept that all of a sudden somebody appeared on the world stage to take away your sins. The God who forgives is able to forgive without having to kill any one in order to forgive the sins of others including later generations. I wonder why the companions of Jesus continue to do good and worship God the way their leader Jesus taught them.

This above is before Paul enter to the fold of the companions of Jesus. Yes, I know, some of us will not quickly cast away Paul in the face of tremendous evidence to do so. Who do you believe, Jesus or Paul. If you believe Jesus, then learn about him from every available source and find out the real truth about him and follow his directive, even if you have to through away your present believe and come into a new way.

By the way, as a muslim I do believe that Jesus (AS) will come back. Not as anything that he was never was. He will come back as one of the signs of the last period of man on this earth. he will kill the Antichrist (the accursed), he will enter the Muslim place of worship in jarusalem at the time of sunset. He will join the Muslim prayer and pray behind the Imam. Even though be was given the position to lead the prayer, he will refuse it because that was not his position.

If Saul/Paul (the accursed) was not a prophet but a teacher, then i wonder what is it that makes the christians enter his writing in the Bible, when the same christians believe that the Bible is exclusively the word of God. This entry of Paul's writing therefore diestroy the hypothesis of truly and strictly Word of God. This also lead to the truth of the Qur'an which says that the Bible is corrupt. I wonder how many similar entries in substance and in form are in the Bible.

To all the evolution proponents, please tell me where iron ore comes from. please do not talk about it unless you know the subject very well. Please give the amount of energy that is in the molecular volume/structre of it. Now tell me if you know what occurred first and how is metal (iron) is transformed to say, Fish. When you can find clear and direct relationships, then you will know that God creats all things. The DNA of Potato is even close to mans than the DNA of Apes to Mans. The Biologist and Chemist amount you should respond, along with the Medical Doctors and any relevant scientific descipline. The Big Bang is a sound. We all agree that Moses (AS) heard the voice of his Lord. This is sound too. The commandment for creation is also sound 'BE".

Please if you do not know anything about this so not give me anty opinion. Further, to butress my statement about Creationizm, read the Qur'an. In it you will find scientific knowledge of gigantic proportions. You will find also the exact amount of the number of bones in the body of man in the hadith of Muhammad (AS). Yes I am a Muslim. Yes I am grateful to God who has made me a muslim. I am a Yoruba and yes the peoiple who have been making fun of the Northerners should be ashamed of themselves. I wonder how you feel when the Whites in the so called new worlds make fun of your Africanness. Of course, they will be wrong and here you are wrong as well.

God crteated all things and if you believe that things evolved please proof it and you will never be able regardless all your conjecture. God is real and He will be the One who will judge all when we are all recreated, an easier task.

Please can anybody with a minimum amount of arithmetics tell me how I can arrive at 1 when there is 1 plus 1 plus 1. How can rational mind justify this hypothesis. truly if the mind is sound. About it being termed a misery, oh my brothers and sisters from Nigeria ( an being nationalistic here), tell me how you justify your theory of Misery, especially when you have to prove all things. Please be sensible. Most of you have gone through comprehensive matriculations. You have Doctors and a pool of Scientists.

Unfortunately the christians in general are either taking their religion as a jest or because of the station of the organ in the body known as the Heart, they do not see the truth. If the haert is good the whole body is good, but if it is bad so does the whole body.

Some even called Allah the moon god. They do not remember that in Igbo language God is called Chineke. Please forgive me , if I did not spell it correctly. Even the Yoruba that i belong to, I do speak it very badly and do write it even worse.

Again, in the Christian Bible written in arabic, God is known as Allah. To my sister babyosisi; I wonder why the Muslims destroyed the idols that you have mentioned and the other 357 when makka was conquered. Why is it that the muslims do not have any Imagery or idol, infact Muslims are known as Iconoclasts. By the way why do the declarationof faith is really the declaration of Oneness of God. Why is it that when you read the Qur'an and the hadith you will see that Idol worshipping and association of anything with the Creator are stated as unacceptable. By the way you raised a very good point about the Qur'an, you finally mentioned that hadith is the collection of what muhammad said, did and did not object people from doing. Infact you have proven the statement that Qur'an is not the saying of Muhammad. Muhammad is not the author of this work, rather someone else. As you know, Muhammad said that it was from Jibril and said that Jibril got it from God. You need to read the Qur'an and see the benefit of it in your life. Since you are a Doctor you will become a better Doctor, knowing fully well that God is the real Doctor and He works through you.

Please pay attention to the fact taht even the christians agree that the Muslims states that Muhammad (AS) went to heaven and return on a single night, lifted from the earth into heavens from jerusalem, the spot is known as the Dome of the Rock. Muhammad also came back before the morning prayer, even as he arrived back to makka. This in itself is a big miracle, but the Biggest of the miracles is The Qur'an itself. You need to read it.

Just a note on the website listed, on the sacrifice ordered by God that Ibrahiim should perform on his son, the Muslims said and mentain to this day and to the future until end of time that it is Ismail, the only son at sometime in the life of Ibrahiim. The Muslims perform the rites of hajj  in part based on this. The christians and Jews believe that it is Isiaqa, but there is no truth to it, because as a none first son, there was no way that isiaqa was never an only son to Ibrahiim. From the Bible, you will see that there is no selling of birth rights.

I am not using the bible selectively to support any of my argument. I use the Bible verses that the Qur'an support, since I am writing to a christian audience. When Islam states that Bible is corrupted, it means that after each of thes prophets were no more amongst his people, sometime thereafter, there were changes in exact sentense, wording, elimination of some portions, insertion of other foreign statements and ideas, others too numerous to mention. For example, you continue to rewrite and upgrade the Words of GOD? This is unacceptable. No one has the audacity to change what comes from God, especially when the prophet it is given the authority to never doctored it. How come can later generation do this.

You see, God in His infinite wisdom did not allow the corrupters hide all the truth from mankind. God Almighty will reveal the truth to who ever He wills. For example, a liar may cover the track of lying, but there is that subtle  slipup. You can always find the truth if you search with a pure heart. Happy trail.

@ babyosisi; I thought you are aDoctor, having studied and in practice in the USA, you have better control of your emotion. I am shocked that you are in cohort with the likes of people who because they are Ibo, not even alive when the civil war took place, yet they are still aspiring for Biafran Nation. Yet it is clear that Ibo women are marrying the northerners in droves. Gowon during the war married Victoria. Babangida's wife is an Ibo woman, though bendel Ibo, she is Ibo nonetheless. A flood of Ibo makes their livelihood in the communities of the Northerners which you hate so terribly. You spent at least your holidays/vacations in jos, a seudo Northern City and you never forgot the experience.

By the way, I am a Yoruba man and I would have defended the Igbos if it was Northerners of Westerners that will paint the people with a terrible brush, the northerners are more than what you and the others think of them. You have a people who can take care of themselves and your generalization is very tacky and uncalled for. Your problem is their Islamic religion. By the way Gowon is a christian, so was Joe garba, Theo Danjuma to name a few from the Northerners, who are national figures, yet not Muslims.

I wonder what you will do if you were to have a northern Muslim as your patient and the condition of the patient is very critical. As I remembered there was still Hypocrtical oath that the Doctors have to take. Maybe Dr. Ekpo Eyo's statement that the Days of Humanitatian Doctors are gone still applies. Unfortunately, you allow it to show its ugly face in your thought. I think you need to apologize to the Northerners as a people.

If we want nigeria to remain as One, the young will have to be different from their Old folks. We have to erase the barriers between the tribes. For example, if you can live with the people who are from different colors, cultures, lands and the likes, how is it impossible that you could not be able to live with people from the country of your forefathers. How will you trat the Christians from the north. Not like christians. What wil you say about the Yoruba Muslims or an Igbo muslims; this this about Islam. I have news for you Islam is here to stay, no one can obliterate it because God will protect it.

If only the Muslims of the world can practice Islam the way it should be practised, then you will not have to be coy in your deridation of any group of people who practise this religion. Every people on earth have good and bad amongst its group. Here in america, some of the worst people on earth are from the white race. You also find bad people amongst the blacks as well as the recent immegrants, blacks and whites and in between.

I pray that you and others will turn back and know that people are people all over the world.

@ softee. Sorry it took this long to respond to you. About my saying that Chrisianity is an easy and 'feel good' religion is based on the age old believe that Jesus is more than a servant of God, who the lord of the worlds sent as aprophet to a nation of people, the children of israel.  In this believe that Jesus was more than a messenger of his Lord, the christians, a religion that is not started by jesus, had developed a doctrine of death on the cross and salvation based on the belief of believing in shedding of his blood. My sister, God Almighty, who had created all things without a prior example before He created, will creat all things again, after everything, except God perished away. He will recreat all things to Judge  on judgement day.

For example, the ammageddon proponent have been saying the world will end so many times, but it never happened. The latest was in the past month. Further the Rapture proponent will talk about Jesus coming down to take them all up, whereby they who had never died will cheat death. Do they think that iit is permissable that some people will die and they these ordinary people will not die. No they must taste death and be recreated for Judgement, the same way they had been created the first time. Only God can creat, no one else. By the way somebody may say that Jesus created, but i will beg to defer because what jesus created was from within what God had created for the first time without any example.

It is in the christian religion that you will find that the laws of Moses, though still essential to all christians today, you will read where Saul/Paul had stated that the believe in the blood of jesus negate the essence of the laws. If the Bible is the words of God, then is it permissable for anyone to edit it or say that it has been amended by another part, like the NT cancelling out the majority of the laws and injuctions in the OT. Please pay attention that jesus said that he had come to fulfil the laws of Moses and stated that not even a jot will be disregard and whoever disregards it or encourage any to disregard it will be the least in the heave. i wonder what is the meaning of all of this except that he, jesus was on the same religion as Moses. By the way what does it mean to be least in heaven and what heaven can a person be least; Paradise or hellfire in this case.

You can do any kind of evil, yet as long as you believe in the blood of Jesus, you are okay. God does not make Paradise that easy. If it were, for people like me, it would have been anything goes. God Almighty was consistence in His commandment to each of His prophets before Jesus. When the peolpe who are christians bastardize the message of Jesus (AS), then God sent His last messenger (AS) to return people to that authentic straight away path; there is no God except Allah (God) and you must no associate anything with Him. Since all the messages of the previous messengers and prophets, inclusing the message of jesus has been polluted, then Islam revealed in Qur'an and through Muhammad (AS) is the only acceptable religion from the time of Muhammad to the end of time, as ling as you know about that religion, hearing the name Allah, His revealed religion, His book and Muhammad (AS).

@m4malik; Again I belive without any doubt that you did not answer the core question of babs787 of this thread. I have prepared a response for you, but I also realize that i have no intention of going through an unnecessary dialogue where I can sense that there is no benefit to any of the participants. As one of the Imams of the Muslims said ' If I dialogue with an intelligent person, I will win, but if I dialogue with a fool, he will win, because regardless of whatever I say, he will not get any good from it'.

You do know that the bible was not in its original text, irregardless of the languages you find it in today. What I read in High School, prior to 1971 is different from what was distributed to the fresh man class of 1971 and later years. Of course, which version of the Bible are we going to believe is acceptable to the christian religion. Is there any portion of the bible that remain unchanged from the time that it came to whichever prophet it was revealed? Can you invoke the punishment of the Lord of the world upon yourself if you lie against God the Almighty and upon His servant Jesus son of Mary, that Jesus is part of God other than Jesus is a prophet and servant of God. I am ready and all muslims are ready to invoke this curse if Jesus is more than a servant/prophet of Allah, strictly sent to the Children of Israel only and no one else.

You tried to associate Jesus with a Jesse mentioned in the Bible, the old testament to be precise. But you forgot that Jesus was mentioned as the son of King david, who is also a prophet of Allah. remember that the Psalm was revealed to him (AS). By the way between King David and his father Jesse, ( who on his own was not an important figure, except that his son was a young victorious warrior at a young age when he slained Goliat, and later became a King and a prophet) who is worthy of being mentioned as an ancestor of Jesus son of mary, knowing fully well that Jesus was also a prophet of God. Remember that since Ismail (AS) was at some point in the life of Ibrahiim (AS), his only son and as I have said Jesse was one of the sons of Ismail (AS). Therefore, the revelation of isaiah which mentioned Jesse could also refer to this jesse. I hereby confirm to you that if you coupled this with the revelation in the Bible about the rejected stone become so important that it is the corner stone of the building, knowing fully well that the children of Israel become so prejudicial and racist in their deed so much so that they wrote off the lineage of their father's uncle (the older brother of their grandfather, by the way he was 13 years older than him). But the promise of God to Ibrahiim was solely to Ibrahiim for the benefit of his seeds, the righteous among them, not to include the evil doers. You remember how Ibrahiim lamented about his son Ismail.

By the way in the Bible you will read that Ibrahiim did not take Ismail and Ismail's mother Hajar to the wilderness (The City of makka), untill Ismail was at least 13 years old. This is because it is stated very clearly in the Bible that Isiaqa (AS) his younger brother, born by sarah was already born and the age between the two of them was 13 years. Hence you will realize that when in the Bible it is stated that Ibrahiim put him on his shoulder on this journey, i must ask you if you know any old person who can carry a 13 year old person on his shoulder for a journey of such significany distance. Remember that Ibrahiim was 86 years old when he had Ismail and 99 years old when he had isiaqa. Which book is contradicting itself. rather who is not telling the truth.

Finally, I heard a recitation of Suratul mariam this morning and i want you to go and read it. While you are at it, read Suratul Al maidah, Al imran, Suratul Nisaa, then read suratul Suratul haqqa, Suratul Quiyyama, Suratul Mulk and Ikhlas. Read these surahs with clean and clear mind and ask for God's guidance. Remember to take proper shower and the wudu. I am sure that God will open your heart and let His light enter your heart and His mercy will make your heart soft.

@davidylan; I remember on another thread that I said that I did not want to dignify your thought by responding to you. This is not because of any arrogance on my part, however I think that my question to you is this; Are you a medical Doctor, if yes read about the heart and then read about the brain and then give your educated response with a new vigor. From your view point expressed above, I am sure you are not a Medical Doctor, so let Babyosisi, the person who has identify herself as a Medical Doctor respond directly to my statement. Have you ever heart of Brain dead. Even when a persons heart is no good, the function of the heart has to be mentained, in extreme case, artificial heart is made, like in the Javid design. The heart allows blood to circulate, the body to receive the essential nourishments, allow excretion to occur, even oxygen and other gaseous elements and compounds, eg, carbon dioxide and other elementss like Iron are transported through the blood. Infact the brain does not feel pain, its functions are primarily interpretations in the matters of the five senses. Yes I am not aMedical Doctor and I do not play one on TV, however as a person who studied Civil Engineering, you must agree that I do have some somewhat advanced knowledge than the High School level that you stated. Further there are many Medical Doctors in my life. One of them is here in USA and she is well known in her right.
Again, it is obvious you never read the Qur'an before. If you did, from the translation which is not Qur'an per se, you would have found out that in many places Allah, the Almighty stated that He is the One that forgives sins. He, Allah the Lord of all things, known and unknown stated that Muhammad is a mercy and a means of forgiveness for his followers, indeed the world over. I could have given you the parts in the Qur'an, but I want you seek out the knowledge because Paradise is not cheap. It takes, immensed effort and dedication. May God Almighty help you and all of us together. By the way, even a person who is harder than you, God Almighty can soften his/her heart and before death received guidance and the mercy and forgiveness of God.
By the way, I consider all of us, as long as we are adults as equals. Age is nothing but a number.

@m4malik
I was going to response to TayoD's declaration that you had answered Bab's core questions, by your personal opinion of what each of the verses that you quotad mean. My brother TayoD, if you believe that m4malik did a good job, then here and now, I tell you that I have a Bridge in New York City to sell and you will be a perfect buyer at meager sum of 50,000,000 USD cash to me. When you are ready to pay up let me know. By the way that is a New York saying that one is gguillibe.

m4malik
You quoted Prophet Muhammad (AS) to show that no one is without sin. However the truth is that (AS) stated that three groups are excused from Sins; The young before puberty, the one who is mentally sick and the one who is uncoscious like in the state of awareness, eg, asleep or in coma.
(AS) did not say anywhere in his hadith and it is not recorded in the Qur'an that a person is born with sin because of the sin of Adam, Adam repented and his Creator accepted his repentance. You will read this in Suratul Baqarah. As to the touch of Shaitan, the accursed, it shows that the devil starts his evil deeds on human being from the time of birth. If every child were to be born with an original sin, then a child that died at birth will go to hell fire without any doubt because there would not have been any repentance or as per your argument the washing away of that sin by the blood of Jesus. That child would not have confessed. If on the other hand, a small child who was being nursed by the mother bit the mother while being nursed or do other discomforting action, all of these while still a babe, and the child dies, as per your argument, the child would be an inmate of hell.
Now, to quote Muhammad (AS), in his hadith, he said every one is born a muslim, but it is the parent that will change that child to be Christian or Jew. Remember that One can still change to another religion after one is no more under the authority/responsibility/roof of the parent. Infact there is ability to change even before one sees death. You are a good example, you are born into a Muslim home, you have apostated, yet there is still a chance for you to change back to islam or even change to something completely differnt. The bottom line is if you are on the straight line, the path to Paradise, the result of the Mercy of God.

I am surprised that you quoted Hebrew, Roman, Corithian and the likes to support your argument. You quoted Saul/Paul (Lanatullahi aleyhi) extensively. Further, you did not pay attention to the tone of the speakers/writers of the new testament, the Gospel verses that you quoted. At best they were third persons, neither Jesus nor his companions, even they were not eyewitnesses. At best it was an account of hearsays. In the courts of America, hearsay is not permissible. hence your whole argument is Zero. remember thatyou are not a Bible scholar and yes, even the Bible scholarship has no substantial foundation. The companions of Jesus (AS), from every account did not receive instructions from jesus (AS) nor did they take the initiatives to write revelation as it comes down to Jesus (AS) nor the saying and deeds and what Jesus permitted them to do. Unlike in Islam, Muhammad (AS), from the first revelation to the last, there were scribes,who he insrtucted to write them down. They were always more than one scribes. The texts were recited in Salah, in ceremonies, taught to each other, one another, recited in every part of muslim life which included even parting or saying goodbyes, inshort they were memorized and put into practical usage and acted upon. The chain of recitation is unbroken even up to the present era. As to the hadith, Abu Huraira (RA), used to shadow his prophet (AS), recording every thing that was said, every action and what he permitted. Others did the same. Education was very paramount to Islamic knowledge and the Muslims learnt and acted. As for Abu Huraira, some companions (RA) complained to the messenger (AS) about his writing every thing about him and from him down, fearing that since Qur'an was the only thing that (AS) had instructed to be qriting down, the Messenger (AS) told them to leave Abu Huraira alone in his penmanship. You will see the difference between Qur'an, the hadith versus the Bible in its textural collections. Islam does not allow any one to doctor the Holy book and the hadith has specific ruling.

(AS) stated that whoever makes any wrong statement about him (AS), that person should take his place in Hellfire.
Sometimes, over this weekend, I shall respond to your entries and recommend a comprehensive book to you titled what did Jesus (AS) really say. By the way the Jesse which a prophet will come from to continue the covenant is not a Jew/Children of Israel. Jesus is not that prophet. Yes there is a Jesse other than the father of Prophet David (AS). He, this jesse whose lineage came this prophet is the Son of another Prophet, Prophet Ismail (AS), the first son and at a time in the life of Ibrahiim, his only son (AS).

Remember that the issue is the role of Jesus, limited to the Jews or extended to the whole Universe. We are only interest in what Jesus said about himself, to some extend what his companions recorded directly from him. I am sure you will never be able to provide any. We are not interested in what Saul/Paul the liar has to say. His condition is with God.
As for Muhammad, while he was alive, his companions included, Jews, Arabs, European, Asians, Africans, Men and Women, Young and Old, slaves and nobilities, poor and wealthy, etc. People outside the arab penisula came to see him, joined his religion. God commanded him (AS), directly to preach to the world. (AS) then wrote letters to the ruers of thye major civilations as a result of this. He wrote to the empror of Rome, the King of Prussia, the Byzentine king and others to include the African King in Ethopia. The text was very simple but direct, ' Dear King, I am Muhammad, the messenger of Allah. Accept Islam and be benefitted. If you refuse, be witnessed that we are Muslims, submitting our will to God' .

@Babyosisi.
It is the your type, a matriculate, specifically in Medicine who should be the ambassador of Islam, yes the missionaries. For if you read the Qur'an you will find the full details of Embrayoic developments, digestion, blood circulation and many more. For you must agree that even the Children of Israel and all Europe did not have any inkling of any of these, yet Muhammad (AS), the unlettered Arab was able to give the clear excegeses , just of recent, the scientists are just coming into the discoveries. By the way, you must know that when the heart dies, that is stop beating, it is then a person dies, it is not the brain, for a person can be brain dead and as long as the heart beats, death has not yet occurred.

From Qur'an you will learn about digestion, lactation, sensory characteristics of the skin; sensation of pain, hot and cold, etc. Look, maybe someday when we can sit across from each other, we may have a better understanding of these Issues. You must have heard of Dr. Maurice Buccaire the french specialist who studied the Medical phenomenon in Qur'an. He became a muslim as a result and the authored a booktitled Qur'an and Science.

In Qur'an you will read about Astronomy, Geologyand all kind of academic discipline. The first verse revealed to this Hashimite Prophet (AS) is READ.

There is no way that the prophet of God, Jesus son of Mary (AS), even though is the Messiah to the Children of Israel, for Sure he is not GOD, finally, God does not need a son. He does not have to punish an innocent messenger of His (as the christian describes it, it is a horrific punishment ending up in a tragic death) so that He can forgive others. But He is the Deity that can forgive all along and He does not need to ransome the punishment of mankind by punishing one of His special servants, a prophet.

But you do know that Hell and paradise are already created. If the doctrine of ransoming by believing in the blood of Jesus is to hold up, then you must agree that just simply that belief alone is enough to get the believers of it into paradise. That believer of it does not have to worship, do any good and can do all kind of evil. But as you know there will be christians who will go to hell fire, eg the like of Adolf Hitler and his christian cohorts, all those nobilities and the pope involved in fraud of sale of indulgence. You will also agree with me that the Fraternity members, the membership is mostly christians will not be anything but as fuel of fire.

I state all of the above because I am pointing out to you and whoever care to ponder about it that even Christian speak about doing work of righteousness. Further, Jesus himself states that God is One. That God is his Lord and the Lord of all. He worshipped that God by postrating his face to that God. It is that God that I worship, standing, bowing and postrating my face in aduration of Him, supplicating and asking Him for forgiveness of my sins and that of my believeing family members and the worldwide body of believers. I want you to join me in this for the one who is successful is the one who is spared of the punishment of the grave and that of hellfire that is never ending.

Whenever you are ready you will know how to go about it and God Almighty is always pleased when any of His creation returns to guidance. I will also be happy for you. I will thank God for your success. Right now I do pray for you and everyone, that God the Almighty Who is the Creator of the heart will soften the hearts and let true guidance enter them.

@babyosisi, please understand that i am a busy person and it is in the midst of this torbulence that i i have to write a response to a thread which i think needs immediate attension. In respect of this, since I am in Boston, not in my home in New York City, you must excuse me for spelling; for exaple I meant dogs ont gods. 442 5001.

@Babyosisi. I went to the website that you provided. First, it belongs to Zionist and you do have to read what were written in other topics; mostly exhorting Jewishness and ill talking of others, in particularly BLACKS and by extension, AFRICANS.


I need to tell you that the writer on Qur'an verses, the abrogating business, based on his premise of the time of revelation is essentially wrong in his thesis. Most of the long surahs are Madina surahs. This means they were revealed after Hijra, Islam of Muhammad (AS) was at least 13 years before the migration to Madina. The firest 13 years, which is known as Makka period was for a single purpose; The belief in Oneness of God. There was no single commandment along with it. Prayer/salah was not even made obligatory, except to the Prophet. There was no commandment to fast, to give alm, pilgrimage. The single focal point was Believing in truth of the Indivisibility of God, the Almighty.

Suratul Baqaral (chapter 2) where you have the verse that the hostile writer, who spelled Qur'an with a K, is the last major surah revealed. From it, you will find stories and the conditions of the generations of old and their prophets (AS). The injuction against usury/interest/unfair dealing is revealed. If any verse was to abrogate any at that time it was 2.256. The reason is that even after Muslims became strong in Madina and truly become a city state to be rekorned with, was strong enough to defeat Makkans and enter the city traumphantly, there still remained in Arabia, Jews, Christian and others among then, left unmolested. A proof of that was in Suratul Azab (The confederate , Chapter 33). Allah commanded the Believing women to cover so that they may be known and identified as such when ever they go out. This shows that there were women and men among this community when this commandment came. Further, in the victory of jerusalem, Umar ibn Khattab (RA), the second Khalifah of Islam, received the key of jerusalem from the Christian Patriach. The patriach offered the Church to him to say his prayer, but Umar refused that he did not want the future generation to take it that the Muslims can convert any church to Mosque.

If you read the History of Islam, Christians do not have a better friend than the Muslims. Read Suratul Rum (Chapter known as ROME). The Jews also never have a better friend than the Muslims. Read Suratul Nisa'a (Chapter known as Woman) Verse 157-9. Yet the Jews and the Christians are enemies of each other, having the same book, but disagreeing therewith. The jews will not rekorn with the New testament or its prophet, Jesus (AS). The christians, esoterically deal with the 5 Books of Moses, dismissing it with the spilling of blood on the cross doctrine and relegating the Prophet of this book, Moses and even other prophets (AS) before jesus to Elders of old, having to real values. But as for us in the Religion of truth, we believe in the Torah, Sabur, Injil, in the purity form of which they were revealed. We disagree and do not accept any change to it, even a jot and any change in the language other than which each was revealed.

I can tell you for sure that the website that you provided, at best prejudicial and racist, but in the state that I see it, it belongs to gods and liars.
You have my email and i am willing to give my phone number for a good conscience discussion. may God help us all. I do not want to end up in Hell and i hope is the same for you and all.

@Babyosisi; From suratul Muhammad, verse 25, you will see that God Almighty stated very clearly that those who apostated from Islam are under the control of the Evil One, Satan. Who ever is controlled by Shaitan will definately not receive the mercy from God, particularly in the day of Judgement. You have to agree that when you are warned of a dire consequence of a certain impending danger, the Warner must love you and does not want you to receive the sufferage. God has warned all against worshipping anything else but He. The Lord of teh world in that verse gave a stern warning of turning back to misguidance after guidance have been received before.

I will check the Sunnah for the injuction on who apostated during the lifetime of the prophet (AS) and his companions (RA) after his death. I know that a man was killed in Makka after the victorious return to makka by the muslims. The man was killed because he was spreading corruptions among the people and the welfare of the people was more important than his.

There is no compulsion in religion and you will find that very clearly in the Qur'an, eg Chapter 2 verse 256.

@babyosisi; You will read in Suratul Muhammad (Chapter 47), verse 25 spoke about apostacy, I quote here as follows: Those who turn back, as Apostates after Guidance Was clearly shown to them,- The Evil One has instigated Them and bouyed them up with false hopes.

The above is what the Qur'an stated about the subject matter. There is no K in the spelling of the Holy Book known as Qur'an. Further, since I am not matriculated in Islamic scholarship, I can simple tell you as a layman that Qur'an or the Hadith are not subjects that can be handled esoterically. Qur'an for example has a continuous and unbroken chain of recitation. God the Almighty revealed it to Jibril, piece meal by piece meal for a period of 23 years based on the subject matter and the prevailing condition of the Muslims. It answers questions, It relates stories to encourage, to support and gives hope as well as Instructions to the prophet (AS), his companions (RA) and the muslims/believers till the last generation on earth. Qur'an provides all that are needed to live in the proper way, hoping for good reward as mercy from God on this earth, in the grave and in the day of Judgement.

Verses 284 through 287 of the second chapter known as The Heifer/Cow were revealed directly to Muhammad (AS) without the participation of Angel Jibril (AS). The place of this revelation was in Heaven when Muhammad (AS), in body and soul physically went to heaven. You can read about this in the first verse of Surah Al Isra (Chapter 17), a good portion of Surah Najm (Chapter 53 known as the star). Muhammad made this journey after the last prayer of the day before, starting from makka at the Ka'aba, travelling with Jibril while he mounted an heavenly animal named Buraq, arriving in Jerusalem where he met and led in prayer known as salatul Ibrahiim, all the prophets, from Adam up to Jesus and angel Jibril (AS).

After this, he and Jibril ascended to heavens. Upon penetrating all the heavens, he was led by Jibril to the point where this life mets the after life. Ther is a tree known as the tree of the farthest lot at point. Muhammad was left alone to continue the journey beyond this point, because it was not permissable for Jibril to go beyond this point. You should be able to read about this from his sunnah and the sirah. If you need references, please let me know.

Again, to know more than a little about Qur'an, the extensive study of Fussat Arabiya is necessary and you need to read the Qur'an in the plain language it is revealed. Its like studying Igbo language. It is not known by speaking the street version. Igbo as you know is full of Idiomatic expressions and needs a thorough knowledge of it.

At least we are not yelling and insulting each other. Happy reading and wish you God guidance in your quest for knowledge.

@babyosisi. I apologize to you on my assumption that you said you were a Muslim in the past. However it would have been better and more rewarding if you become one. You are not getting younger, no one really. We get close to our grave daily. Some people are greatful when it is friday. Others reflect more thoroughly that day,waking up in the middle of the night, purifying themselves, seeking forgiveness from God, postrating their faces and reciting the latest revelation from God. God is to be praised, alone in His majesty, above all things.

I am sure if you devoid your heart/mind of all that it contains and sincerely ask God to reveal His true path to you, the true way you must worship Him so that He may have mercy on you in the day of judgement, then you will receive guidiance, for sure. The one who is successful, is the one who is ransomed body and soul against Hellfire. The One Who can do it is the Creator, alone. He is the One Who can punish and also the One Who can have mercy on a creation. Every face will perish, except the face of the Almighty. Every one will taste death except God, the Almighty, alone. No one else.

In the day of judgement, the reality will be plain for everyone to see, Paradise and Hellfire. For those who associate anything with God, there will be no mercy. For this is the greatest of all sins. The hypocrates from among the rank of the Muslims will have a great punishment as well, for not been truthful. I ask God the Almighty not to count me and my people and the Muslims the world over among these people.

Ifear Allah, so I try to run to Him for His protection. I fear His punishment, so as I do bad things I seek His forgiveness. I am not perfect, but I do know the true path from crookedness. I do not intend to get off from the right path. I invite you and all that fear God and certain that there is a day of judgement, where everyone will be given his/her book. I want to receive my book in my right hand. I ask Allah, the Almighty to make this possible for me, me and all muslims.

@trully.
You will agree with me that God, the Almighty never waiver in His commandment and instruction to mankind. The path that is charted to man by God is straight. There is no crookedness in it. It is the same path that was gievn to Adam, the father of mankind. it is the same path for Noah, Ibrahiim, Musa (AS) to name a few. It is the same path to Jesus (AS). If you accept it or not it is the same with God. Your refusal will not diminish the majesty of the Lord of the worlds. Your acceptance of it is a chance for you to receive the mercy of God. I tell you now that it is the same path that was given to Muhammad (AS). There has not been any man since Muhammad (AS) who had come with any true revelation/message or a book. The Lord of the world stated in the Qur'an that he did not creat Jinn or man other than they worship Him.I do not see in this statement and even in the new testament that jesus stated that he should be worshipped.

As a matter of fact, Jesus worshipped God, the Almighty his Creator. He bowed his head, prostrated his face and supplicated to the Lord of the Worlds. From the tablet given to Musa (AS) from whose hands Pharaoh (lana tullahi aleyhi),the king of Egypt, at that time was controlling 1/3 of the worlds land mass and population, you read that God is One God and He, God is jealous and do not accept association of partnership with Him. As you subsribe to trinity, you must agree that it is association with God that you are subscribing to. You must also know that trium concept is really dividing God into more than One, the One that He is truly is.

In the Qur'an, in Surah Al Maidah (The table spead; chapter 5), you will read to wards the end the conversation that God Almighty shall have with Jesus (AS) the son of mary in the day of Judgement. In Surah titled Mary, you will see where Allah the Almighty stated that it does not befit His majesty to have a son. That all thing comes to Him but as a servant, that include Jesus as well.

Now, I shall answer your question about mercy via christianity in the following manner; It must be clear to you that God should not be taken for granted and you can make up your own way of worship. In fact, if you deviate from the commandment of God in its true essence, eg associating partnership with Him and worship in any way other than the way He had commanded, you will agree that that will amount to disobedience. If a servant disobey his master, even amount mankind, what reward do you expect from the master. Now, how do you want God to reward a disobedient creation, good reward or bad reward. Of course, bad reward which amount to punishment.

Now, God has given you the faculties to think, feel, see, touch , hear, etc. Please use them. Surely you will come to realize that God is One, He God is not Jesus and Jesus is not His Son, but His messenger, a servant who will be judged like every one of His prophets, slaves. Jesus is good, but he was not that good. It is God, the Almighty that holds all the dominions and He is able to control them all and never in distress or fatigue about anything. You can not give His position and responsibility to His creation, Jesus son of mary (AS). Why worship the creation when you should be worshipping the Creator, the One Who is truly deserving of our worship, altogether.
The straight line has been drawn, any crooked line is not to be followed. may God Almighty open your hearts and guide you onto the right path, a path that is straight and has no crookedness. That is Islam.

@la belle, you do know that Jesus, your god is not the God of the World. He Jesus (AS) was good, but he was that good because Ibrahiim and other prophets before him (AS) were also good. For example Ibrahiim was described by his Lord as a personal friend. Jesus was not described as that. Please know that I am not belittling Jesus (AS), for he is a prophet to me, one of my masters in belief.

God Almighty the Creator, is capable of forgiving His creations. On one hand the christians claimed that Jesus died for the salvation of mankind. If this were to be so, then it will cover everyone, specifically the christians. Therefore the christians do not have to do any good. It will be anything goes. If course, you will agree with me that this no need for any goodness mentality is not acceptable to the rationale of any society.  Some christians believe that there will be some christians in hellfire, eg Adolf Hitler, etc. If then there is a possibility of a single christian in fire of hell, even though that christian believe in what the christian believe in Jesus, you will agree that believing alone is not enough. Hence going good is an essential ingredient. But how do you know that your believe is the correct belief. If Jesus had been the seal of prophethood, then how come that Paul (Saul; lanatullahi alleyhi) has more work in the Bible that Jesus, the prophet who you claim to be your god. Among the works of Paul, who was not a companion of Jesus, never was known by Jesus was able to wrestle the ministry of Jesus from his true companions, like Barnabas, etc, even though they disagree with him. Paul wrote even a chapter called revelation, among others. Paul writing is more in volume and in the development of christian docrine.

What you need my dear sister, in nationhood and humankind is to read, Qur'an, hadith and seerah, yes study islam so that you may receive the mercy of the true and only God that is capable of it. If you read the surah called fatihah,  compare it to christian's lords prayer. You will see a great difference. Infact the lord's prayer of the christian does not start with Our Lord. Christians abandoned their true relationship with God, Who is everything but father to His creations.
For God asked in the Qur'an if they claim that He is their father, then ask them why does He punish now and will punish them for their sins. In the Qur'an you will find a complete description of the creation of the Universe and all things. You will find the descriptions of reproduction, feutal developmental stages, digestion, lactation, gestation and others. You will discover materials in material science inphysics, Biology (botany and zoology), Chemistry, like chemical bonding energy, etc. You will discover strenght of materials and the ability to penetrate the space. There is descriptions of cloud formations that will give you clarity of how rain is formed, lightening and thunder, etc. In fact you never will have any book that will give you as many information about life.

Come to Islam and be benefitted. There is no life except true and sincere effoert to seek the path of forgiveness from God. For we are all prone to sinning.

@babyosisi, I will InshaAllah, remain in Islam throughout my living in the earth of the Almighty. I will die a muslim, buried as one in a grave in a cementary for muslims only. I pray that those who participate in my burial, from the time my soul is out of my body onward, anyone who touch my body shall be true muslims, believers.I do not want to become a christian and I have no need for church. I am not running after girlfriends, so the other usefulness of church is negated. I do not go to bars/niteclubs either.

But I thought you said in your earlier write-up that you were a muslim. I wonder if it was so, as per another one of your responses to a person on a different topic, you said you write fluently in Igbo. If you are an Ibo woman, I am not assuming that only ibo can write in Igbo, but if you are an ibo woman, when did you become a muslim and when did you leave and what was your reason. I hope your case was not like the case of a woman on nairaland who said she left Islam at the age of 12 even though she was born tinto a Muslim family and had studied Qur'an. I wonder what a Yoruba youth will know,really about a foreign language that even the natives have to go to school to have a thorough understanding of, yet it is their  mother tongue.

I was in my 40s before islam began to mean something to me. I lived in many places, met many people before then. It was in las Vegas, of all places that I realized that God had created me, for a reason and it is my responsibility to find it. Since it was not found in the Bible; there are many talltales, discrepancies in the old and new testaments and other books which make up the Bible. I discovered this in High School under Chief Michael Adekunle Ajasin. In my University days in Montgomery, West Virginia, my roommate was a reverend, with a Masters degree in Theology, currently a pastor in NYC, did not impress me, as i did ask many questions which none was answered with any practicality. I now give you an opportunity to answer just one, as I will post it to you, here and now; Is the religion of Jesus (AS) different from the religion of Adam, Noah, Ibrahiim, Issac,Jacob, Joseph, Moses, to name a few of the prophetwho came before him (AS). Please explain without using your own or anybody else's opinion. I need direct information from Jesus (AS) noting that he spoke Aramaic and Hebrew and all revelation from God, his Master/Lord/Creator did not come in any other language that the above. There was no romannor greek revelation to him. It was related that he spoke any other language either.

In the future, I will post other questions to include any proof and authority that you may have from christiandom that the authority of Jesus covers the present day generation and beyond, in addition to the generation after his successor (AS) came on to the scene, the world stage of religion,  a way of live. Babyosisi, if I know which city you reside, I will recommend a Muslim group to you so that you learn about Islam from women among them, Americans, white and black. Unfortunately, the people who came to this shore from the so called muslim countries, so that you know there is no muslim country presently, if there are the situation will be different, these persons, that include me by the way do not truly understand Islam.  I begin to learn about Islam in america, how strange is that! But we must not forget that those who accept Islam in this country accept it wholeheartedly, learning and practising to the best of ability.

I read your entries with heavy heart. Some of you have no shame and can't guide your tongues, hence from your heart through your fingers come some of the most vile statements. To those who talk ill of the prophet Muhammad (SAW), desist from doing so and seek forgiveness from the Creator of all things. If you continue in your evil ways, be certain that you will be consumed by the fire of Hell, you and those who have the same hard hearts like you. You will never receive the mercy of God.
There as never been any Muslim, who will talk evil of your god. Of course, the Muslims revere Jesus (AS) as a prophet of God and believed in the miraculous birth, one of the signs of his prophethood and nobility.
As to the terrorism, at present, Islam is not in the driver seat. Hence, you have what I call the law of the Golden rule; who ever have the gold, makes the rule. Be the gold be pyrite (fools gold) or low grade to the purest 24 carats of 999.95/1000. The west, for those of you big time historians, from Nigeria will remember the crusades, the progrom and the Inquisitions, to name just a few.As to the Indians before its Independence, the British made sure that there was a wedge between the muslims and the Hindus, Sikhs. Before the English arrival to subcontinental India, Islam had ruled the inhabitants for hundreds of years without forcing anyone to become a Muslim and without any major religious strife. The English brought their filth to this people and created that climate of distrust. the same thing they and their European brothers/sisters have done to the whole of Africa and other so called third world nations.
Anyone who knows the history of the creation of Israel will not be too proud of the tactics of the Zionist, the Balfor groups and the likes. The bombing of the King David hotel quicken the capitulation of the British overseers. Menicham Began who became prime Minister of this nation known as israel was a participant, so was Moshu Dayan and even others.
I have many more example for you but I need to let you know a US jewish Rabbi by the name of Jerry Lerner was just telling Bobby kennedy Jr. on the radio program known as Ring of Fire on Air America radio, his experience with the christian conservatives headed by the likes of jerry Forwell, Pat Robertson, etc.
These famous religious leaders are edging-on the jews to have a religious war with the Muslims and they are also edging-on the christians to wage wars with the Muslims known as clash of civilization, etc. This people are blood thirsty in their quest for the return of Jesus's 'second coming' via amageddon or the apocaliptic occurence. By the way was not August 25, 2006 billed as the end of the world. Nothing happaened. Just like many of what the christians have said in the past and it came to zero, nil, naught,none event.
The christians talk as if they have covenant with God, the Almighty. In every case you are ashamed. Yes, there are muslims who behave badly and that include taking lives of people and even their own lives. But that is not to take away from a complete and perfect way of life, Islam.
Yes jesus is good,as a prophet. No he is not that good to be God. For God, the Almighty is beyond and greater than all things. God has no need to eat, sleep, tiredsome, fatigue, use the bathroom and behave like human, His creation. God, the earth can not take Him, it does not befit His magesty to walk amoung men. His heavens cannot be over Him.It does not befit His majesty. Glory be to Him, the One and nothing is like Him.
It is your desire to go to astray, continue. You will know, soon when your life will be a reality to you at the point of dying.

2m4malik. Please direct me to where you read materials about Muhammad (AS) that jolted you so much that you left islam. I have spent a long time reading about him and there was not a single thing about him (AS) that was out of human comprehension. Maybe your heart needs some cleansing. You need to pray to God for gorgiveness for your vile statement about the beloved of Allah, His Angels and believing men and women. For if you die in evil state you are in , by Allah, the mercy of Allah will be forbidden to you.
Don't you fear God, the Almighty? Please have an introspection of yourself. You are saying ills about a man who liberated a whole people even though before him this same people the Arabs have neglected and forgotten by the rest of the world. From this noble man the greatest movement the world has ever known sprouted. From him, the noble soul, there are many discoveries in all fields of academics. There is no one alive since his death and before his birth that ever commanded respect near his, from followers and others, alike. The qualities that was ever in mankind, it it was added to one another and but on the scale to be compared to his, that of all man will have been lighter in weight. No muslim will put him over any prophet, it is God, the Almighty that raised him up. You Nigerians, with your weak and filthy souls have to hide behind the internet to spill your evil. But you do not consider what can of torment that await your souls if you die with this much evil. Have you ever heard of any Musllim speak ill of any prophet (AS)? Yes it is true the Muslims do not believe that Jesus (AS) is God, God son or cruxified. God Himself said it in the last revelation, the Qur'an and that book has not been changed, all attempts of changing have come from the others, christians and jews.

The only extended period of peace the children of Israel, the so called 'Jews' have ever known was under the islam ic rule in spain. The base of the european civilization, currently and that of the USA by extension is also under the same muslims in spain. The people of african benefitted tremendously in this, you have the Timbuktu academic enlightenment, having over several Millions of manuscipts, unfortunately, the africans and the rewst of the world are not investing in this treasury. The individual Muslims need to reform themselves by going back to the true practise of this true religion, a way that individuals will receive the mercy of God, InshaAllah. Must people who criticize Muslims forget that Islam is different from the adherents. Human beings have the porpencity to do evil. to do good takes sacrificing, suppression of evil is a thorough effort of conscience reawakening.
The books of islam contain oceans and seas of blue prints of good individuality, communual good governance and the like to include global cooperation. the blind, the sick hearted can never see nor feel it. The sweet nectar of islam is not a Dr. feelgood syndrome. It is not a blind faith conditioning. The tormiol, the world over where muslims are active participants are a matter of personal, communual or national issues. You will never find an action of the Prophet (AS), his companions (RA) or even the people within the first three generations. They accepted their conditions and patiently await the decision of Allah (SWA). Muslims, be patient and persevere.
True forgiveness and mercy that was practiced by any being that ever walked the surface of the earth, including all the prophets was practiced by Muhammad (AS). The first war that Muslim engaged in was Badr. The Muslims in that month of Ramadan were victorious. Abu jahal and others were killed from the Idol worshippers. The Muslims lost just nine. The muslimscaptured a number of the Makkans as well. However, the Muslims did not ill treated these captives. They allow them to buy their freedom by simply teaching the Muslims.
Muslims had a lot of treaties and alliances with Christians, jews and even the Idol worshippers. There was no treaty or alliance that was broken by the Muslims, at that time a fledging community that cooperated with its neighbors.
The victory of makka came without shedding any blood. Upon the victory of Makka, the makkans gathered together to seek forgiveness from the prophet and his followers. The Makkans knwe that they had been unjust, harsh and practiced evil against the Muslims. A good portion of the early Muslims were from makka. Muhammad had the chance, the opportunity and the capability to visit retribution on the makkans. Instead, he forgave them all, across the board. This amnesty gave rise to the makkans realizing the mercy in true Islam, hence in a short time after, the whole of makka became Muslims. In a short time still, the whole of Arabia became Islamic. Islam became acceptable amongst the people of Muhammad and people all over the world. It is the only religion and a way that every group fit, at least in the month of Hajj and in the less hajj known as umrah. If you want a true United nation, then that is it.
The muslims unfortunately, have adopted the sunnah (way) of the disbelievers. Violency was unknown in Islam prior to recent history. It is crusade that is the first nature of christianity and zionizm that of the Jews. The muslims have resorted to act in the same fashion. It does prove the hadith of prophet Muhammad (AS) which says that the Muslims will follow the Christians and Jews footstep by footstep. That the Muslims will follow so closely, copying them, that even if the y enter into the hole of a lizard, the Muslims will follow them, even knowing it is not arewarding act. Those who kill themselves, in the case of suicide bombers, it is known in the Qur'an and in the Hadith that people should not take a life, espectially your own life. Who ever take his own life will be raised up taking his own life, over and over in the same manner.
Further, Muslims are given a methodology of warfare. Muslims do not fight, sectionally. You have to be mature and be properly organized before you engage in war. But moderation and lenency must be practiced. There are orders in Islam. Islam guides from Cradle to the Grave.

Muslims the world over should be unhappy and therefore hold a public protest when Jesus (AS), a prophet in Islam is spoken or written ill of. That is the least we can do, since the Muslims are very weak, presently. No prophet of God, starting from Adam to Jesus (AS) and their successor Muhammad (AS) should be derided any shape or form . If the Christian will not stand up to defend their god, the Muslims should stand up to protect and defend their prophets, every one of them.
Oh you Christians, be sincere to yourselves. Please do a soul searching. Do you love Jesus or you are just saying it with your mouth and there is no substance to it. Then stand up for him.
For us muslims, we will not allow anyone to denigrade Muhammad if the Christian denigrade their god. Muslims the world over, you do not have to resort to physical attacks of any group of persons who abuse any of the prophet of God and any of the followers (companions) of any of the prophets. Register your disagreements by protesting these evil groups or individuals, take legal actions against them if you can. pray for their change of hearts or wrath of God to come upon them if they do not desist. But be patient and wait for the decision of God.

Babyosisi. I pray that you are not on fire, fire burns. Terribly. Give anyone your brand of religion. If is the will of Allah they are on fire, they will go your way. for me, the decision is very clear. I have faced many an adversary, from deacons to ordained pastors. Some of them are well known. My prayer is that I do not go to fire. Hence I follow the the pattern of the noble messenger (AS), obeying the commandment of the Lord of the world, as much as I can. I also hope in His forgiveness when I make mistakes, I sincerely repent.
Your religion is your religion, my religion is my religion. One thing I am sure about, Jews, Christians and Muslims are not going to end up in one destination in the day of Judgement. There will be plenty going to Hellfire, some for a period and removed from it, the rest left in that unending punishment. The people of paradise are already chosen, their souls removed from the back of Adam (AS) with the right hand. The people of hell fire will have difficulties doing the things of the people of paradise while on earth. The people of paradise will have difficulties doing the deeds of the people of hell fire while on earth. I guess the seeds are different, hence separated from the shaft.
I wish you well, but do not die unless you are in the state of submission to the will of Almighty in Al-Islam. The fire of hell is real and no creation can ever get used to it. Paradise is also real, that is the best destination.

Babyosisi, If you find any part of the Qur'an that does not deal with the normal feelings of human beings, point it out to me. In 2002 Ramadan, I met an American Black pastor in Brooklyn's Bedford/Herkimer street corner. He and me engaged in conversation especially on Suratul Taubah. He had problems with the beginning of this surah. This was about fighting the Unbelievers. My response to him was very direct.
I asked if he knew how to read Arabic, if he had spoken to anyone about this before his conclusion, if he knew the length of time it took for the completion of Qur'anic revelation from the first ayah; Iqra of Surah Alaq and the last ayah which is in Surah Baqarah, dealing with the subject matter of Interest. Every ayah, there is a reason for its revelations. For example, the civil war in Nigeria lasted 30 months. I have met many young Ibo people, really under 40 years old, who are still advocating seccesion today. you have them also in Nairaland. Can you imagine the vile and hatred that would have grown in their hearts if they had been military age and felt the sting of that war. Yet todays Nigeria, you do have Ibo in the Highest of post. Now then, if you are a Palestine, you lived through the beginning of the creation of Israel. No you were born after it in refugee camp or in other country that will never accept you as a pure citizen. How much will you dislike Israel, you may love individual Jews, but it will be very difficult for you to love the Zionist. At least, because of your weakness, you may hate them in your heart.
One of the founding fathers of the USA proclaimed 'Give me liberty or give me death'. So you see, it is in human nature to want to be free. By the way, when the mother of my children and me were having our problems which altimated resulted into a better divorce, the first thing she jumped on about me was 'That your religion', even though I did not know anything about Islam at that time. Secretly, she hated the religion. I then decided to go to church one sunday to see what does happen in it. I went to the one that was very close to our home in Jersey. It was as if I was back in High School. I hated it. i hated all the showmanship of it. I hated the disgenuous and antic of the preacher. I dislike the unclothedness of all the people, women in so scanty a clothing, it is almost nudity. Mind you it is a good ground to pick up cheap women. It reminded me of the days of 'christian crusade/revival' in Nigeria. Especially in my high svhool days, it was the place to look for those easy girls, just like the christian high schools. You remember, during Christmas/New Year period. Everything goes for the christian girls. Unfortunately, the muslims are now copying them, followin and adopting their ways.
Islam does call for moderation. Islam calls for advancement and adopting all that is good. In the early stage of Islam, women own properties, businesses, traded, got thorough education and participated fully in the society as much as the men. Merit was not based on gender or age, it was based on piety and efforts. If it was not for the wives of the prophet (AS), we would not have any examples of the sunnah sexual purification process. True muslims will follow the example of this noble prophet (AS) in everything. He loved his family, his wives and children, his children were beloved to him. He loved and respected all his other family members, example his uncle who took care of him after his grandfather died. Remember his father died before he was born and his mother died before he was 6. Allah spoke about this in the Qur'an. He was a political leader of the highjest kind, not equal to among any personality who had walked on the surface of this earth. We formed an alliance with the Jews, Christians, others and Muslims in Madina, under the first CONSTITUTION written by any man. He never broke his convenant. He forgave freely and completely. He did it when he had power to punish and he did not. For a weak person who is under oppression can not sincerely forgive his oppressor, ubtil such a time he has the upper hand. if he forgives at this particular time that he could avenge his ill treatment, then that is true forgiveness and mercy. But the Muslims do this in the way of Muhammad for the Pleasure of Allah, alone, longing for the reward to come from Him. When ever you are ready if you need to speak to me directly, then ask, maybe I can impact your life, positively towards the religion of Allah.

Babyosisi, thanks but no. It is very easy for a person to give a decitation about any convertion to this religion or that. I am very greatful that my mother came to Islam, finally. This is after 911, she was almost 80 years old and I only spoke to her 2 times about it. In all the years she was a christian, i hated it. But I never wished her to die in that religion and thank God, she would. Yes, I was married to a christian woman, she was a Yoruba, but in all the years she and me were together, I never liked to see the CROSS around her neck. I wonder if I lost a family member through knife wounds, would I want to see the knife with all the gorry of blood, etc. Please think. How come the christians love the cross so much, knowing that their god was strapped and hung to death on it. I wonder why the christians do not have a tomb and stone relic on their neck as well, knowing fully well that is where their god came to life. But Allah is always alive, full of strenght, wise.
As to the Abdullah, the hausa man who converted to christianity, I ask you do you know him. Anyone can post a story and there are many publications that do that to creat confusion within the rank of Islam. I personally have many former clergymen in this United States who are now muslims, Black and White and inbetween. Glory belong to Allah, I have spoken to many persons, women and men, mostly women and God softened their hearts and become Muslims. I ask you who is forcing people in America to turn to Islam. No One. You will see the women wearing Ijab. But the African women, especially the young women, they have adopted the worst qualities from the west and loosing themselves in all immoral values. Please understand that I have been one of those people who knew nothing about islam and yet practised it. However, in my days of pure ignorance, my heart was always yearning for truth. So while i was living in Las Vegas, NV, I took the time to observe prayers and fasted. But I did not realize the physical and immediate rewards of these actions. For those who pray and fast Islamically, there is a light that radiates from them. Muslim are known by this light. this is in Qur'an, in Suartul Fathi, I believe.
The hatred of islam, hence the Muslims by the Christians is very open and intense. You only have to listen to progressive radio in New York city, 1200on the AM dial and if you are in Boston 1430. The Lord of the worlds states the Christians and Jews will not be happy with you until they change you from your religion. I believe that it is very clear and many of them will entice a man with woman. but this is the enjoyment of this world alone and the day after is a better enjoyment for those who go to paradise.
You see, every one has a weakness. For me I recognize my weakness. Hence I guide against it. I used to have a friend who used to tell me that she was free from the power of the satan, the acursed. She said she was filled with the holy spirit. She was well known amongst the the Nigerian Christians in London. I asked her if she was ever tempted. Her answer was no. I asked her who was purer between her and Jesus of the Bible. Her answer was clearly Jesus. I needed to tell her that it was stated in the Bible that Jesus was tempted, not just once or twice but three times by Satan. You get my point. In Islam we do not have that kind of mindset about Our Isa ibn Mariam (AS). He was a messenger of God and a messiah to the children of Israel. We on the other hand are not prophets, hence we seek the protection of the Almighty from the evil one, Shaitan, Lanatullah.
This story is like the story of a person who is in manifest error, but until there is a realization of that condition, it will be impossible to begin the process of righting and wrong.
The case of the marriage of Aisha, uhmmu muminii (RA) to the noble prophet Muhammad, the beloved of the Merciful (AS), this had been explained many times.If you have any difficulty with it, you just need to reflect on it. I bet if you were in Nigeria and never have gone out of a small village, the criterion of marriage may be differnt from what will be allowable in big cities like Lagos, Abuja,etc. By the way the Arabs did not have any problems with it then and not too many raised any eyebrow about it, today. THe material for Ph D degree, 100 years ago in Physics will be at best a BS course work today. 100 years ago, that Ph D was a Ph D. Today it is a different standart. This is not to explain away anything about the noble prophet. Allah, the Almighty has defended him. Would you believe that when Jesus (AS) was born, the people accused his mother Mariam of bad act. Can you imagine if Jesus had grown up and was not an elect of God. What would have been the reputation of his mother. THe Qur'an defended Mariam very vigorously. The bible did not do the same about her. Jesus performed many miracles, recorded in the Qur'an that you will not find in the Bible. Now tell me who is truly the Lover of Jesus, the Muslims, of course. Muhammad did not need any defense because his bloodlineage was not in question among the Arabs. He (AS) said that from Adam and up to him in heritage there was no single illegal sex act and illegal birth. Muhammad was honored even amongst the non Muslims. You need to know what Ghandi and others said about him (AS).
By the way, have you ever heard the word 'Orientalist'. Orientalists are people who are not Muslims but devoted their academic life on Islam. They are the largest faculty member of islamic studies, in higher institutions of learning like Harvard and even Oxfort, etc. They have knowledge, it is not useful to them.

To Ms. Babyosisi, Thank you for your advise. As stated in one of my early pieces, my mother was achristian up to just the past 2 years, whereby then she converted adopting the name Mariam. Further I was married to a Christian Nigerian woman until 1989 when we divorced.
In Islam, you do recognized that there is a prohibition against illegal sexual intercourse. if this is so and there is rule of trial and punishment, it is very clear to me that the muslims who engage in rape, a very evil form of illegal sexual intercourse are eithr ignorant and shameless with at least temporary hard heart and/or among evil doers. For if that rapist have been in a community where goodness is practise and evilness is frowned upon, he would have known it, rape does not agree with the heart and there is injuction against it in Qur'an and Hadith. Please read the condition and the judgement that was passed on the son of Umar ibn Khattab (RA) while he was the Kaliffah. The son committed illegal sexual intercourse.
You can not judge Islam by the action of the Muslims, you must judge Muslims by the book of Allah and the Sunnah of His messenger(AS). I will not judge christianity by the actions of the christians, but judge the christians by the book of christians, the New Testaments?.
You can judge christianity, Islam and Judaizm by comparing the holy books against one another.For me Islam agree with the heart. It does not call you to do things blindly. There is a balance to its rules and injuctions.
For example, I am a man who enjoys beautiful things and good life. So I am more inclined to the prettiest of women, however, I do not go beyond the bounds that is set by Allah and instructed by His messenger (AS)> I do not involve myself in illegal sexual acts. I know that I am a drinker and smoker at heart, even though I never have done either. I therefore avoid any and all conditions of it, vis a vis, I will never marry a woman who smokes and /or drinks.
As stated earlier, Islam is a complete religion, hence there are no question that is forbidden. Maybe,those who you have asked are ignorant themselves and have little understanding of the subject matter, but are disgenuinous in declaring so. Ilearnt about islam in America, of all places, even though i have been a Muslim all my life. I teach myself the recitation of the Qur'an in Arabic. I started listening to lectures , asking questionsfrom knowledgeable people, every chance I get to do it. More inportantly, I opened my heart to receive guidiance. I am still growing. the religion is like the ocean. You use the water for whatever you need it for and there is plenty of water, still around for others after you.
Maybe, we can get together and I will hope you ask your questions and since I am not a scholar, even not a strong student of Islam, I will direct you to those who know and provide you with a flood of websites where you casn post your questions for adequate answers. Remember, allah is the only One who knows. Read Suratul Kaf. Allah send Prophet Musa (AS) to learn that he did not know every thing and there are things on earth during his time that he had no knowledge of.
If the Yorubas, no, all the africans and specifically, the nigerian Muslims have have only done what is easy in Islam, like truly not associating anything with the Lord of the worlds in the way of His Messenger (AS), make sincere five salah per day, give charities, Compulsory and optional, fast as reuired and make hajj and avoid all kinds of evil, then by the mercy of Allah and not being arrogant by their deeds, Paradise will be guaranteed. However, people mix culture with islam. The arabs and others are not immune from this. the culture of Islam is definately different from the culture of the Arabs. However, if you practise Islamic cuilture it does not mean you have to discard your culture altogether. For whatever is good and wholesome in every culture is Islam.
I know that by Allah the Almighty, Christianity is not for me and i will never become one. Their women as beautiful as she can be do not attract for many reasons; lack of thorough cleaningness and there is no limit to what they do, they lack controls and immoral. Islam call for proper cleaningness. It also call for adequate moral qualities and to be moderate not going to any extreme in dealings. So if a woman who is christian or jew is attractive to me, i will bring islam to her. I will start from the believing in One Lord and not two, three, etc. If she agrees, I will ask her to become a Muslim, upon becoming one I can propose to her. She may or not accept. she has free will. But I will continue to encourage her to try to grow in Islam and marry a Muslim man of her chosing. You know it is illegal for Muslim Women to marry others. If you find a muslim who is dirty and immoral, he/she will be worse if he/she were to practise other religion. If you see a non Muslim who is clean and has good morals, because there are plenty of them, however when he/she becomes a muslim, the quality or cleaningness and morality will be very higher.