₦airaland Forum

Adeba01:
Why don't you have a go at the above poster who said light skin is better instead of my love for dark skin. Could it be that you too have an aversion to dark skin

My father was not darkskin; I mean you can call me African but not darkskin because my father was very light skin with a form of curly hair. ��

Adeba01:
There is...... you are representing it.

The darkness that you hate so much is comprised of a beautiful natural component called melanin, it is what the natural space and galaxy is made out of. In other words God's preferred colour.

God preferred colour ?You amaze me!I wish you know. First decode this: According to Yoruba creation ; ìbì átì ìrè lá dá ìlè àyè; evil and light(bad and good). This means, light is preference in God's part. This is obvious fact in religious circle.

Having asserted this, it doesnt mean mankind, because Caucasian and darkskin is the perfection of mankind in God's eye.In conclusion, ìrú riṣá atí ìrú èdú láwọ̀ is perfection in Yoruba's spiritualism.

Adeba01:
The notion of Yorubas hailing from the orient reeks of inferiority complex and the fabrication of this narrative originated from Europeans to discredit native origins . May I ask you is there anything wrong from originating in Africa . Must everything revolve around Caucasians [size=8pt][/size]. Do you see Chinese people doing the same thing?

I dont know your school of thought but have you for once wondered reasons the Hebrew words are found in Yoruba language ? I mean classic Hebrew,which arent found in Arabic as 100% cognate found in Yoruba language does not exist in Hausa language or Ethiopic language.

This has nothing to do with inferiority complex and did not originate from Europeans as you have speculated. I expected you to know that ,oral account, manufacturing production, Animals of Yorubas difference from African species,Visual Art works, Oramiela similarity wth Arab's Il Raml( divination system to God), food crops that are found in Yoruba land etc

I am aware that the Bible is termed among atheist scholars as fictional even with awesome Archeological evidence that showed Hebrew scrolls found in Egypt in Africa and Near East.But the reality is that, you must be able to read classic Hebrew ideogram as well as Yoruba's to understand the fact.


Paradventure, you can read it, or wait till I do scholarly justice in the future. Before then verify these oral account that are proto Hebrew Bible account and Yorubas:

1. DaoduIwa/DodoIwas/DudduIwa/DoodooIwa is aYoruba name for the head of the family and pioneer unifying king who overthrew two kings. These is replica as a David(English name) ,Daod( Arabic name).


2. Thirteen settlement are the settlement that was unified under DodoIwa,which is same as Hebrew kingdoms that's thirteen


3. DodoIwa attacked a king at ancient side of ora and took the man's ancestor crown . The same was the case of David,who attact a man whose ancestor crown was taken


4. The name of the crown DodoIwa/DuduIwa took was Makin. The name of the crown David took was M-a-l-k( this is the ideogram written account). The king known as Oba kutukutu Osanganga(Yoruba's account)


5. That Yoruba's Yéṣùà is same in meaning as Hebrew's Yeshua i.e having same 100% true cognate and meaning with Hebrew.


Lastly, Guess what? I leave the rest in my book.

Adeba01:
I have noticed especially among Yoruba women they have semitic looking features, I have seen a good amount of Yoruba women with jewish like noses.

Originally,it's the other way round.The Yoruba are of the orient but inter married with Nubians, Cush, Ethiopians,Bantu as well into Olmec groups of west Africa.And ended up in West Africa ,whilst elements of them scattered in across the globe.

davidnazee:
I think your numbers was still larger than ours about 700years ago when we first conquered and then ruled your ancestors for a 700years.. u had the numbers and we had the power..

Lol. Are you aware that your Ekeladeran had descendants in Ughoton ?

davidnazee:
I'm aware that you are not Edo..

How can I be Edo? I am 100% Yoruba blood. Even your king whose ancestors came from my ancestors lineage remained proud about it. Did you hear the part,where Oba Ewuare II in his remarks, during his coronation mentioned that Oba as a word came from Yorubaland ? or where he said the first Oba of Igodomigodo turned Bini was Oramiya ? .

davidnazee:
500 or 500k, we still remain greater than Yorubas.. our greatness wasn't born out of dreams or fairytales.. we achieved it through conquests of mostly the yorubas..

Are you aware Ekelderan had descendants in Ughoton and died in Ughoton ? . Bini and lies are best of friends.

davidnazee:
Do you know that we Edos have always believed that we are greater and powerful than the Yorubas? Its a belief we have had for over a 1000 years and continue to.
so all the rubbish you and your likes post doesn't change a thing..
Edo remains EDORODION over the Yorubas..

Are you for real ? Please, I do not entertain trash so, kindly go study to know your history. Your whole Bini that her population is not more than 500,000 thousands

AreaFada2:
My brother, that she-male called TUEH or whatever is his name. He is a Yaba Left character, highly irrational and suffers from severe delusion of grandeur.
Don't waste your precious time with him except to post for rational but silent readers.
Benin Empire was a highly meritocratic society. Artisans who distinguished themselves in war (or other endeavours important to the nation) were even elevated to nobility rank. Examples include Evian who became the interregnum administrator, Ode, who became Iyase Ode, Ogbeide Oyoo (from Anioma) for whom Oba Ovonramwen created the title Obaseki and rising to Iyase (Prime Minister) under the British. Every Benin person (including Oba's children and siblings) is Oba's servant and if they choose to call it slave, so be it. The British call it Queen's subjects, but tribalists only have issue with Benin matter.
@ Davidnazee, Benin do not call it oriki per say but Benin being very open people who expanded East and West, only normal that we know other people far better. In Benin each family has praise name (uwanmwen) depending on ancestral line. It is usually in response to the morning salutations below:

Ogiso descendants-Delaiso
Eweka I descendants-Lamogun
Oliha Descendants-Laogele
Iyase Descendants-Lavbieze. Iyase is non-hereditary prime minister and changes salutation to lavbieze if not lavbieze before appointment. His descendants do so henceforth. So Lavbieze greeters may not be all related. Ohemwen family also greet Lavbieze so such greeters from that line are related.
Ezomo descendants- Lagiesan
Ero descendants- Lamosun
Edohen descendants- Latose or Lauvbe
Eholor n'Ire descendants- Laire
Oloton descendants- Lamehi
Edogun descendants- Lagiemwan
Ogiefa descendants- Laidu. Idu direct descendants also greet Laidu
Iyase of Udo -Lagiemwan (normally considered quasi Enogie/Duke of Udo but can be replaced in the role by Uwangue of Udo. No substantive duke in Udo since defeat of Prince Aruaran who was duke of Udo about 500 years ago).
Elawure of Usen descendants- Delaihe
Ojima of Okeluhen descendants- Laugha.
Enogie/Duke of Egor descendants- Lauihe
Iyase of Uselu descendants- Layede

There are dozens more.

You amaze me with the level of your claim that you understand Bini history but it's obvious you have hatred for your yoruba ancestry .

Perhaps, you did this evil consciously or unconsciously by not identifying Oshin, Ogun,Oramiya who were Eweka 1 ancestors and before Oṣìn, there were many ancestors .Kindly readjust the ommitted Ogun and Oramiya, who were seasoned warriors and forebear of Oba Ọwọká (Eweka 1 ).

Therefore to be a bit justified, kindly modify you Oba Bini's geneology accordingly. And be rest assured Ekelederan had DESCENDANTS in Ughoton and also died in Ughoton. So also his descendants live in Gwato till end of time.

Honestly,I will appreciate if you stop posting false
information to support your view because you have hatred toward Yorubas Race. Unfortunately for you, the same Yoruba bloodline boost your intellectual capacity. After all, you wouldn't have become a refined educated person if you have Bini bloodline and others who travel across to Europe only to hustle on streets.So, kudos on your field of specialisation.

TAO12:
Ekaladerhan lived his whole life in Ughoton. He has not a thing to do with Igala or/and Ife.

The Ife spin to the story (and of recent the Igala spin) are the 1970s face-saving revisions which are disallowed by the much older documentations on Ekaladerhan.

The conclusion that he lived all his life in Ughoton is the only conclusion obtainable from the authentic account of Ekaladerhan which was collected by Cyril Punch in the 1880s and published by H. Ling Roth in 1903.

The same authentic account of Ekaladerhan collected by Punch and published by Roth was also collected by Chief Egharevba from an entirely different generation of Binis in circa 1930.

In each of the foregoing early accounts (especially that of Punch published by Roth), the conclusion obtainable is that he lived all his life in his kingdom of Ughoton.

It took about 100 years since Punch’s collection before a group of insecure Binis (non-historians) stepped in to attempt a reversal of the original Ekaladerhan narrative by seeking to make him to be one and the same person as Oranmiyan/Oduduwa.

And when asked to name their informants or cite even a source for their new and strange information, they didn’t name or cite one thing.

I have had the opportunity of seeing some of your references,which are also available to these Binis as well. Even at this, many eye glaring researches ,that specifically denounce such dubious assumption claiming Odua as Ekeladeran which is the reason I want to see evidence that proofs Ekeladeran being Odua , if indeed such is true.

Obviously , Fezz position and others, who claimed Ekeladeran had no descendants remained the reason I want to inform these Binis that ideed Ekelaredan wasn't OduaIwa because Afonso D'Aveiro met Ekeladeran's descendant in Gwato/Ughoton. Thuough I await Binis response to my questions.

Fezz:
I can't be too precise about the dates you are requesting for. It is said that Oranmiyan stayed in igodomigo around 1170 AD because archaeological work was done on his palace that was built in Uzama quarters in Usen and his palace still exists on that site till today.

Ekalederan had no descendants in Ughoton, he was still quite young when he left Ughoton. According to records, all that is mentioned is that he had followers who accompanied him from igalla land to ile-ife. He had a wife in igalla. According to records he had only one child called okanbi and i cant say if akanbi was born in igalla land. I'm sure you are aware of all the names of his grand children.

1.If you are not sure of the date of Ekelederan's father's time of existence on earth,then how can you determine that he was Ọṣì/OdùIwá ?

2.Are you aware Igala/Akpoto was not in existence, when Yoruba ancestors fused temporarily with some Nupe/Jukun /Kwarafa to breed the present day Igala?

3.Do you have evidence to proof Igala is not a mixed breed of Yoruba and Nupe group's ?

4. What exactly is the emigration account of Ekeladeran to Igala Land ?

4. Who are Ekalederan's descendants in Igala Land ?

5. Do you have accounts that Ekalederan didn't have biological descendants in Ughoton /Gwato ?

Fezz:
One thing you should understand in Benin history is that everyone in Benin shares the same lineage as that of the Oba because we all originated from Pa Idu. The Ogisos are the ancestors of Oduduwa and therefore Oba Eweka is a descendant of the Ogisos. If this was not so tell me why the Obas still connect to their fathers "the ogisos" by practicing the costums of the Ogisos. You are well aware that Ogiso Ere introduced the ada and eben culture to Igodomigo and uptil today the Obas still practice the culture of their fathers by using the ada and eben. In addition, are you also aware that uptil today the Oba dynasty worships Erimwi Idu (spirit of Idu) as an ancestorial shrine just as the Ogisos did as well. So tell me, why aren't the Obas worshiping the spirit of Oduduwa if he's their progenitor?

The true story of Ekeladeran/Oduduwa in short is this, he was banished with his mother and they ran away to Ughoton where he established the Olokun worship. His mother died at Ughoton and her grave is still there till today but you will never see Ekeladerans grave in Ughoton because he was not buried there . He left Ughoton and ran to Uhe (present day Kogi state). He stayed in a place called ife which still exists till today. In case you don't know, Ekeladeran story is part of Igalla history because they acknowledge he came to their land and after he had a confront action with the attah of Igalla he ran away with some followers and they found themselves in present day ife. He conquered the enemies of Ife and his name changed from Ekeladeran to Oduduwa.

As for your question regarding ohen Okun, he was the Benin ambassador appointed to portugal while jao Alfonso alveira was appointed Portuguese ambassador to Benin.

You sure do have a good lead in your storyline but I have questions you need give answer to, such as:

What did year Ogiso Owodo died ?

What year did Ekeladeran found Ughoton ?

Can you mention Ekeladeran's descendants in Ughoton ?

Can you mention how many children did Ekelaradan had in Igala ?

Can you mention how many children did Ekelaradan had in Ileife ?

Fezz:
Funny you .. you are talking to someone that knows his complete history and ancestory. My advice to you is for you to know where your ancestors came from before you come on nairaland to try and debunk other people's ancestory. Let me enlighten you a bit. Ogiso Igodo didn't fall from the sky. The title simply means he has devine attributes coming directly from heaven (sky). In Benin we know ogiso Igodos ancestory and that is why I'm telling you to go and find yours .

The name of Ogisos father is Odudu. I can go further to tell you whom fathered Odudu if you care to learn more from me . Just in case you are curious to learn more about Benin ancestory go and read "great benin" by Omoregie.

Like I said earlier, Benin is all about history and history is Benin. We don't tell stories, we create history.

There is no iota of doubt about havng knowledge of your ancestors history but that of your Oba Bini isn't complete without Yoruba's prince, Oramiyah,who was Ogun's descendant. Though Odudu's meaning in Bini language in the context of Yoruba's OduIwa/DoodooIwa remained implausible from Bini's account but I agree with you that Ogiso gave birth to Ekerlehedan, who founded Gwato or Ughoton.

In the context that thousands of Edo indegne and some present day migrants to Warri land knows this, information above ,is the reason do I ask you,who was the Ohen Okun priest,who was the leader of Gwato or Ughoton land as at the time of Afonso D'Aviero visitation to Ughoton and Bini Oba Esigie in1485/1486 ?



Cheers

KingOKON:
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Absolute nothing in there...... Plz go burn the midnight oil for your exam on the origin and fallacies of ORANMIYAN
I will see u 2morow.


Olodo rabata 2d core, just eating of fish eyes is what you are good at

Stop lying to yourself because Oramiyan wasnt an Igodomigodo trash. Please who was Ohen Okun that was one of the pioneer visitors to Portguese king ��? The reason is that in this visit of Ohen-Okun as Benin Ambassador to Portugal ,he promoted Ughoton to a higher level. Ughoton became known in the world apart from its relevance as the port of Benin.

absoluteSuccess:
My brother, I am happy I'm here discussing with you. If greed has had a better part of me, or I'm not too scientific about my quest for the good life, I would have been a goner.

You will just discovered I'm not active here again and you won't hear from my monicker again. I'm not the one who coined online terrorism, internet predator and all that.

Psychopaths are here too having their hunt and the best of times. How about frsusters, kidnappers, terrorists, etc? Every interest is represented here.

If you are not a victim, you won't know. Hardly do victims live to tell their story, hardly do they know where the plot was hatched and hardly could they trace back to the enemy.

Only a psychopath will tell me, I went to a backwater polytechnic to study Mass communication that never offered me what I wanted in life.

That's very expensive way to destroy the character and integrity of a man. It's however a great revelation. How did this guy know this much about me?

To whom have I shared my personal details lately?

It's because the bait failed, the details that cost him so much now accrues to nothing and he has to throw it to my face to hurt my ego and enjoy the thrill of the feedback.

Unfortunately for him, he's dealing with an investigative writer.

I appreciate your altruism bro, but it is a confessional statement that this guy made reporting about a guy who was making case for Yoruba Hebrew connection on Facebook.

The hate in the opposer transcend this place, so at what state did the Facebook guy confessed to him that he's being sponsored by the MFM?

What then became of the Facebook guy?

I have my answer in what could have become of me had I taken the bait, another byword in a forum where such a discussion is ongoing and the teacher seems unstoppable like we are.

I'm just finding justice for this man, there's blood in the hand of Widowmaker, he could have added mine. There's danger inherent in doing what we are doing, and you should know.

As to the book, no knowledge is lost. I'm only tripping on why a man would be interested in power via the fall of another. He is interested only in what you offer: that, he destroys.

To achieve sucess in a highly deep research as the one I as well as others are doiing isn't a child play.So, if this guy decides to have a detest for Yorubas footprint in Egypt and Mesopotamia,then, let him challenge my book,at the time it comes. And I pray to my God,he is alive as well as others,so as to know that , it is not a speculation or fairytale .

Interestingly, he claimed Yoruba were aborigines in West Africa, and unknowingyly to him either by ignorance, or lack of study , he never for once remember that Yoruba Ifaodu priests eugolice Alara. And Alara was a Nubia Pharaoh who ruled both lower and upper Egypt. How do you even take a man that flips up and down without base seriously ? A man who assumes Yoruba are all of one the same stock when in reality, Ifaodu, christianity and Islam unified millions of Nubians, Arabs, Maghrebs, etc under Hebrew-Yoruba,over two thousands years ago

If indeed ,he is a widowmaker,then whatever, evil he plans, shall be back to the sender .Evll befalls my enemies in every angle. With due respect,to you be not afraid of who lurks in darkness and do not understand how darkness was and is interwoven with light yet became separated from light. But fear Ẹlá ,who is the light that has powe over all mankind. Bro, it is natural that evil and good walks side by side so that, evil consume evil while light shines on and on till infinity.

Modified

Cheers

absoluteSuccess:
That Widowmaker safely waits on you to do the job and he to spoils the job. He's using Robert Green's 48 laws of power...

Never do what your enemy will do for you.

A researcher that doesn't know how to use the dictionary or tell a colloquial from register, that one na researcher?

Na to hurt and lurk in the dark to kill them sabi.

Widomaker ? That's a big one. Anyway, 48 laws of power is often used the weakly and not the wise ones. So,I pay no attention to such if indeed, critic wants to lurk in whatever angle to harm.

As far as I am concerned, I am not a NL celebrity but a man, who posts sparingly with interest to making genuine mark,via interpretation of Ideograms, in Yoruba land to proof that Yoruba are actually the Hebrew that migrated to Ileife.

Certainly, not all Yorubas are Yorubas but all Yorubas are now Yorubas because,of assimilation , intermarriages, conscription, religious factors. Interestingly, facial marks are not actually of all Yorubas. In the same manner that not all Yorubas are principally pure ancestrally of Negroid stock from inception, especially kings lineage from Ileife, who started, kingly dynasty of 'ba'- monarchial system.

Lastly, the more you pay unnecessary attention to the same NL fellow, the more you give him the necessity to rage as usual and postulate falsehood with confidence. Although the care killed the cat remain the reason, he will always loose, he is neither a researcher or a maven but a baseless pro Kwa agitator for Yoruba identity, which he condemned the western scholars who grouped, the language inthe area of Yorubas as being migrants ,from some postulations.



Cheers

macof:
The dictionary definition you posted said : cognate - allied by birth, of the same family, proceeding from the same root

Not "looking alike"

I demonstrated how Oruka and Olaaka could be traced to a common root by examining the consonant change

With your small brain you think Iron and Ìrìn are cognates because they look alike when written down without demonstrating how these words preceeded from a common root

All of you Hebrew wannabe have problem with comprehension, you can't even understand the definitions you post. Read the definition in the screenshot you posted again and again until you understand it.

And I'm not interested in any back and forth, so do yourself a favour and don't expect me to read much of your obsessive posts..going back to reply a 4th time or so to the same post I made a year ago is obsessive

You seem forgetful? Seriously ,you flip without caution often. I can recall, the post of yours, which posit, that English's iron was oncereferred as iren?

Interestingly, iron was a word that came directly into English's lexicon through Classic Hebrew language. A language not spoken in anymore in Near East.The Classic semitic Hebrew's language is closely allied with Coptic langauge before Arabic invaders arrived Egypt through religious conquest,which made the speakers of the language migrated along Sudan belt to unknown destination,according to Western scholars' claim .

And today, the coptic language has become liturgy language around the world.The Coptic language was in use by the era of the Septugaint. The Septuagint is an ancient translation of the Hebrew Bible into Greek, undertaken by Jews resident in Alexandria for the benefit of Jews who had forgotten their Hebrew (well before the birth of Jesus). Are you aware Greek words existing Yoruba language ?

Furthermore,scholars have done some comaprative analysis of possible Yoruba, Coptic language,Arabic language as proto language or as one influences the others. Thus, it arouses my curiousity when you subtly claim Oruka is Olaaka and traceable to common root but disagree with the footprint of yoruba from the land of their ancestors. And you disagree with Yoruba language indigenous to West Africa? You are a joke!

Arabic :Sallah
Hebrew:Shellah
Yoruba: Ṣèlá/Sálá
English :success,to be successful,do everything possible to be successful

Arabic أَمَرَ.
Hebrew:Amr
Yoruba : Àmọrá
English : "to say, to tell", posit,opinion

Arabic:salam
Hebrew:shalom
Yoruba: Ṣhalèmí
English :to be able to breathe i.e whole and hearty

Arabicص ṣaad
Hebrew:tsadi(i,y is 'e' in sound)
Yoruba:ṣọdẹ́ /tsọdẹ́
Arabic:ض ḍaad
Yoruba:dọ́dẹ́
English: hunt,to find food for consumption

Hebrew: ol על
Yoruba: olè
English :difficult, tough,yoke,burden


Hebrew: ry(y,i is e in sound)
Yoruba: ri (as e in sound )
English : to see


Kindly post your Ibo,Ewe, to compare because you are the one who has comprehending problem since you neither have Arabic studious background nor Classic Hebrew. Yet, you churn trash without backing or reference to anybook. This is the reason, I dont take you serious.

samuk:
Benin Palace does not agree that the Oba of Benin is a Yoruba descendant, rather, what the Benin Palace says is that the Ooni is a Benin descendant.

IgomigodohadnoPalacelikenedtowhatYorubpeoplebrought to Efa city. So, stop spreading false information because even your present Oba acknowledged that, Oba as a title came from IleIfe. If may ask you:
1.Does it mean IleIfe aristocrats also taught your ancestors Yoruba langage from 1170AD ?

2.Who was on the throne at Ileife when Oramiya came to Igodomigodo?

3. Why was The Ekokpagha treaty clearly defined the status of Ogiamien as aborigine and permanent landlord while the Oba of Benin kingdom as a Yorubaman and a foreigner from Ileife ?

Mind you, the reason why I ask these questions, because you claimed Ooni is from Igodomigodo. Kkindly shed more light.

Ogungbemi01:
Stop attacking our people here. Our decision is final. You claimed that Itsekiri and Binis are related yet you guys are appointing enogie in Ologbo, Kolokolo and Aja-oki. You even set up and arrested the Iyatsere of Warri Kingdom because he rejected your enogie. The truth is that you can't mix water and kerosene. Come in our language is "Wa" while come in Bini language is "Lare" Can't you see the variance? Are they related in anyway?

I salute your courage over subduing the rants of this Edo lad . It is pathethic reading each statement from these egocentric Binis whose monarchial structure came to existence via Yorubaland's prince ,who became Ooni later in life.

absoluteSuccess:
Alright bro Olu. You trust we can never go the same circle we've gone here anywhere else

It took almost a decade, just back and forth. But thank God we finished well and finished strong.

The ingathering is ongoing, I will equally explore other platforms too. Good and bad equals progress.

We can't cherry pick every event of life.

Taa ba si ni'adiju kenibuburu koja, aonii mogba teni rere t'an fe maa re koja lo pelu.

Good morning bro.

Morning to you bro. I am sure you see In my submission , that people who are critics are allowed. Irrespective of whose ox is gored, I am still one of the descendants of my ancestors. I remain my humble self:

Ọmá èrí Ogùn dàdè

Ọmá è rí Ogùn màsà

Ọmá è rí ọtẹ̀ màá bẹrù

Ọmá Odẹdẹ Ȁání


Cheers

macof:
But how can a human being be this dull for godsake
It's not as if he doesn't know it, but he just can't wrap his small brain around it. Knowledge is different from understanding apparently. Imagine giving an explanation but still don't understand your own explanation. This is hilarious af

Here's what I think :
Mofo here saw my comment, he got desperate to use something to attack me, his emotions got triggered and he quickly settled to tackle my use of the word "its" without he himself being sure if it was wrong or not. But in his desperation he needs it be wrong so his brain just sees it as wrong at all costs. He even had to google the word and copied the explanation he found here which actually state my use of the word is accurate but still his brain sees my use of the word as wrong
This is how mental problems manifest o. When information doesn't pass properly through the brain

You have just embarrassed yourself for nothing

Olodo, there is nothing to wrap up or are you a wrapper ? Wrap is even blunder .

Go learn how to construct good English; 'he can not wrap around his small brain'.'without he himself' . .

There is nothing you posted earlier or previously that's sensible because everything as it relates to Hebrew's world view that you opined is based on false from inception. Seriously, you are a daft and a full at it!

macof:
My god this guy is such a dullard

So from your explanation here which is correct

"At its worst" or "at it is worst"
In which of both sentences is there a possessive?

you are a dullard you don't even understand your own explanation.
I'm not surprised, it takes a special kind of stupidity to be chasing Hebrew origin for yorubas

Does at it is worst sound as good English to you ? Englishman ; Oga teacher learn:

How to use its

Its: is the possessive form of it, used to indicate possession, ownership, belonging, etc.

English generally uses apostrophes to indicate possession, for example, Macof’s bike (the bike belonging to Macof) and the dogs' barks (the barks of the dogs). But, confusingly, English does not use apostrophes when showing possession for personal pronouns: yours, ours, theirs, his, hers, and … its.

The reason English don't use apostrophe to show a possessive is long and complicated, but here are few fun facts:

Way back, the English used, his for the possessive form of it. (That wasn’t perplexing at all.)

The use of its for the possessive form of it takes off in the 1500s.Thereafter, English did commonly write it’s to show it possession for it, but that became nonstandard in the 1800s, probably due to the influence of pronouns like yours, hers, etc.


Example

The bank raised its rates.
Let’s try English's rule and swap in, it is. “The bank raised it is rates.” Now that doesn’t make sense. Its conveys that the rates belong to the bank.

Macof's Example:

Inferiority complex at its worst ###
Let us try to swap in it is: "Inferiority complex at it is worst". Your view conveys that, worst belong to inferiority complex.

Note :
Mr Olodo jatijati "its" is nonstandard since 1800s. Your dictionary obviously is also oudated.

nisai:
Lol. Olu, you got him.

I sight you bro. ágọ lá pá ọmá kunrín Ẹdo yẹ..


Cheers.

Sewgon79:
Oranmiyan: The real reason behind Oba of Benin’s recent visit to Ile Ife

Ile Ife is the ancestral home of all Oduduwa descendants, mostly Yoruba and Benin people inclusive, that has been a known fact. The recent visit of Oba of Benin just gave it more credence as the Binis have a common heritage with the Yorubas in Oranmiyan whose groove lies in Ile Ife.

Omo N’oba N’Edo Uku Akpolokpolo Oba Ewuare II, the Oba of Benin recently travelled to Ile Ife where he visited the Ooni of Ife on Saturday, April 28. Before this historical visit, the last time an Oba from Benin visited the Ooni was 36 years ago.

According to a popular saying in Benin kingdom: “Oba no dey go transfer,” which simply means that Oba of Benin rarely leaves his palace where he sees to the day-to-day running of his kingdom. That is why Benin monarchs hardly go around.

2018 visit to Ile Ife, went to the Oranmiyan groove and learnt that there is more to the Oba of Benin’s visit to the ancient city. It was gathered that the Oba of Benin actually went to collect a particular sword which all kings of Oranmiyan descent come to Ile Ife to collect. It is called the sword of victory and every king who is a descendant of Oranmiyan must come to the groove to collect the sword.

It was also learnt that while being given the sword, the king visiting will be prayed for that any war he wages he will conquer unless he decide to wage war against Ile Ife then he will lose the war. This is because no son is expected to wage war against his father.

Also gathered that while coming to the groove to collect the sacred sword, any king coming must change from the regalia he is adorned with to a specially prepared outfit before he can step his feet into the Oranmiyan groove for prayers and collection of the sword.

This particular ritual was alleged to be one of the reasons the Oba of Benin went to Ile Ife and also seized the opportunity to visit the Ooni of Ife who was present during his coronation in Benin.

During the historical visit, Ooni, Oba Enitan Adeyeye Ogunwusi Ojaja II, and the Oba of Benin confirmed the common inheritance the two ancient cities have in Oranmiyan, the last son of Oduduwa who was said to have migrated from Ile Ife to become the first Oba of Benin. Oduduwa was also said to be the first Ooni of Ife.

On leaving Benin back to Ile Ife, Oranmiyan was said to have installed his son as the king of Benin thus the title Omo N’oba which when translated means the son of the king.

The Ooni was quoted to have said during the historic visit that: “Those of you that know the history know that the then Oliha came to Ife to ask that Oranmiyan be brought to Benin. There are details in history books. I am cutting out the details. It’s all in the history books and you can research that. He (the then Oliha) was the one that successfully won the right to escort Oranmiyan to Benin to become the first Oba of Benin.”

May all Oranmiyan's descendants continue to live in harmony.


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macof:
My god this guy is such a dullard

So from your explanation here which is correct

"At its worst" or "at it is worst"
In which of both sentences is there a possessive?

you are a dullard you don't even understand your own explanation.
I'm not surprised, it takes a special kind of stupidity to be chasing Hebrew origin for yorubas

Haaah olodo! Google the words you posted . I am done.

macof:
Lol
Look at a secondary school drop out telling me about English grammar. Perhaps in your useless head it should be "at it's worst" or "these people" when referring to a single group of people
Dullard.

at it's worst . I will only explain one out of the two.

Identifying the meaning of it’s and its :

First things first, it,as a word is a third-person singular neuter pronoun, used (among other ways) to stand in for inanimate things or ideas.

Now, here’s the rawpoint on Its:
"Its" is a possessive form of the pronoun it, meaning belonging to it. Chikena

It's:
It’s is a contraction of the words it is or it has. (Interestingly, we don’t really contract it was into it’s.)
If you’re trying to figure out whether you should write it’s or its, swap in it is or it has. If the sentence makes sense with either of those substitutions, use it’s. If the resulting sentence doesn’t make sense, you need its.

How to use "it’s"
It’s is a contraction of the words it and is or it and has. A contraction is a shortened form of a word or group of words (we love to smush sounds together when we speak), with the omitted letters often replaced in written English by an apostrophe, as it’s does for the i in is and the ha- portion of has.


How to use "its"
"Its" is the possessive form of it, used to indicate possession, ownership, belonging, etc.

English generally uses apostrophes to indicate possession, for example, Mary’s bike (the bike belonging to Mary) and the lions’ roars (the roars of the lions). But, confusingly, English does not use apostrophes when showing possession for personal pronouns: yours, ours, theirs, his, hers, and … its.

The reason we don’t use an apostrophe to show a possessive is long and complicated, but here are few fun facts:

Way back when in English, his is used for the possessive form of it. (That wasn’t perplexing at all.)
The use of its for the possessive form of it takes off in the 1500s.
After, we did commonly write it’s to show it possession for it, but that became nonstandard in the 1800s, probably due to the influence of pronouns like yours, hers, etc.

So, your nonsensical English says it all about your personality. . Go study Mr.

macof:
kikiki
Dem don open WhatsApp group. Inferiority complex at its worst
Thank goodness this people do not represent the Yoruba, we would have been a laughing stock

Lol! What kind of written English is,

'this people'

inferiority complex at 'its worst' ? .

Just imagine your above grammatical fallacy and you want to engage me?Try and be part of Professor Akintoye's team to make Yorubaland a better place for us and Bros,I advice you to go study. Perhaps, peace shall come to your unsettled mind due to your futile endeavor. Meanwhile,dont be swayed towards wrong direction on my book because ,my work is not for NL. Just wait.

KingOKON:
Inferiority complex na disease

Mr. minority, how is this your problem? Face your ethnic problem.I mock you

Amujale:
You're delusional.

My advice is for you to bin all the nonsense you're currently reading and go and pick up a proper history book.


Yeshua, Jesus, whatever you want to call that character is all based on fakery and falsehood.

Foreigners came to our continent, found out about our divine principles and decided to call them God.

The African Gods are the only true and proper ones.

Not to be conflated with the Almighty God.

For instance,

The Orisa are Gods.

Sopona is a god.

Jesus /Yeshua is a fake god.

Engaging you further your psuedo facts because, you are not in any field related to the said character, who is aknowedged also in Yoruba pantheon. But you kept regurgating falsehood on a Nigeria platform . Plainly, Yèṣùá,, Ríṣá, Ẹlá etc exist in Youba traditional worship in the same manner in Hebrew culture and traditional worship

So, amazingly for a Young man like you to engage me on the whole Africa without a case study! What a mirage! I advise you channel your energy to something else that's meaningful. It is a fact that I can interprete Hebrew's Ideogram as renowned scholars with emiritus status have done a lot on written account about known characters in the Bible.


Anyway,ignorant like you are in thousands but I am not perturbed , such exist amongs the unbridled characters,who acknowledged christianity exist before 100AD. And Ethiopian Orthodox Christians before more than 20 ancestors believed in Yeshua as a man who lived on earth. Even Ethiopians Orthodox christians as well as Coptic Orthodox christians believed in Yeshua(Jesus).

Alba3:
Most eastern Yoruba groups have something similar. Utileyinorisasola, Itileyinorisasola, etc. or proper Yoruba: Itileyinolorunsola

I/tileyin/olo/oru/unsola/u/tileyinolo/oru/unsola is not a proper Yoruba but a complimentary within same grip to mean same for Oriṣá/Riṣá which's ancient name for both God and mangod (as for a name of man).

Riṣá or Oriṣá is still being used interchangeably with all other names of God devoid of both christians and muslims counterparts.

Cheers