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Pearlyakin:
According to my research and findings the name is actually from Obaluaye an orisha among the yoruba people, in yoruba land when you are afflicted by orisha Obaluaye you have to add the name of orisha Obaluaye to your Name in order to appease the god, so that's where the name Obasanjo comes from and same goes for Obafemi.

Perfect answer. Thanks for giving out the real meaning of the name because some people thought Oba as a prefix to certain names means king's related name as it is assumed Oba-sanjo might be related to king's title. Unfortunately,this is incorrect and this is the reason people blundered about Yoruba names,meaning and eventually translate them wrongfully which has affected us so badly in today's Yoruba land.


In fact , Babafemi, Obadare, Obafemi, Obasanjo, Oba damisi etc were not derive from royalty names as because the names are small pox victims name ;Soponá , the god of small-pox;*king of the world*, which used to be referred to in reverent tone in olden days as Baba so that he/it would not let disease kill them.

Kudos. .

Osugbo:
Pidgin English was not introduced to Nigeria by the portuguese, otherwise Nigerians would be speaking a Portuguese creole like Guinea Bissau. Pidgin as spoken in Nigeria is an English based creole. Pidgin came in full force via the krios and later took on some Nigerian character by imbibing local words since such is the character of a creole.

Quite an infornation you've shared. May Olorun continuously bless you with such renewed strength to share more of Yorubas history in the country you live as an indigene.


Stay bless eternally.

ImperialYoruba:
Olu,
This screenshot and its explanation tells us what zabah is, i.e. sacrifice.

Sacrifice is generic. Irubo (offering) is unique.

I dont think they looked at it from spiritual angle, this is more like dictionary explanation.

It is wrong to assume that, Hebrew publication-dictionaries don't explain it deeper than one another and this screenshot only posit its opinion through careful study of the paleo Hebrew. So,it is more than sacrifice from generic definition of the word as you stated because, other Paleo Hebrew dictionaries explains deeper.

My take on the following:

Isébo-Sébo : it is act of making of sacrifice.

Ébo: that to be sacrificed as offering.

Irú-èbó yí rú: evaporation, ascension or acceptance of offering by God.


It is important to realise that Yoruba language's words don't just exist per se without a purpose which is always being descriptive. So, Yoruba language is always with its undersandable syllables,which is the reason it's easy to know a borrowed,shared,owner of such words in Yoruba lexicons.

Lastly,the PALEO HEBREW looked at ZABUR from DEEPER RITUALISTIC ANGLE as the ancestors of Yoruba did with animals slaughtering to even the most sacred blood letting/spill of the highest creature on earth.......

So did the Classical Hebrew because the opinion are different from publication of classical hebrew ,despite the claimed usage of animals as sacrifices and the usage of Jesus blood as sacrifice-redemption. In fact, the Paleo Hebrew became banished by God when they begun to use human beings as sacrifices at a point in time since it is the most sacred blood on earth.



Cheers.

Looking at the shared word between classical Hebrew's HANNAH-HANNON-HANNEN and Yoruba's ÁÀNÙ.


The root-verb חֲנַן ( hanan-hannon-hannen ) shows up all over the Semitic language spectrum in meanings from to grant a favor, to be gracious and to favor. In Arabic this verb means to feel sympathy or compassion.

In the Bible it "depicts a heartfelt response by someone who has something to give to one who has a need" . The verb covers the actions of people towards people (Judges 21:22, Psalm 37:21, Job 19:21), but mostly that of God towards man (Genesis 33:11, Psalm 119:28, Amos 5:15).

The word ‘Anu' is ageless with Yoruba people and means to show compassion on some one who is in need. Interestingly, Yoruba remain the only group in West Africa with this cognate.

OlaoChi:
simple question you cannot answer you start wetting your pants with this irrelevant epistle
for the third time, is Petros now a paleo-hebrew word, yes or no?

Where exactly did I refer to Petra and petros as Paleo Hebrew? When will you learn? Just imaging the same you that claim knowledge but doesn't even know the very first translation of the Hebrew Bible was into Greek.In fact, the early Hebrew exist in fringes and aramaic(Persian ) was spoken during Jesus's era...Anyway,wallowing in ignorance is your watchword .
Contrary to your perception ,the words you may find online are reconstruction of classical Hebrew (archaic) and there is no way accuracy could be made by the Hebrew linguists except the speakers of such language,who are today's Yorubas. More precisely the set of the speakers who understand the linguistic aspect of the root and sound of archaic inscription and writing of Paleo Hebrew language . And as it is, the archaic Hebrew-Yoruba language is strange to you as for now,which is the reason I had mentioned and will infer again that ,you need not be on this platform.

OlaoChi:
i asked you a question so you can explain yourself to give you the opportunity to defend yourself not because i do not know what actually is.

again, is Petros now a paleo-hebrew word? What scholars in 2018/19 are these? Answer

since you do not want to use English Bible anymore, you should remember the names of characters in the English bible need to be rendered in their correct original form too, don't just shift from English bible to Greek and Hebrew as it suits you

Oh ignorance is indeed the greatest problem you have and you have never learned nor will you learn . I thought you claimed Yoruba is of West Africa origin ? . But now,I have exposed your ignorance once more with Petra-Petro',which both related to meaning of stone-Rock,depending of the Hebrew's-Greek era, and which can be found in Greek dictionary,if you doubt to affirm. I am expecting you to provide Japanese version of, ‘Rock' as I have done once more.

Your question :
1 Paleo Hebrew? It is a classical language that is not spoken anymore.... Kikiki. Only reconstruction of how it is spoken, is what the Hebrew linguists are doing. No body can exactly knew how ,it was spoken until the alphabets were found at Sinia axis, in Egypt. This alphabets helped the continuous research being done. And even Hebrew linguists don't always agree or have same meaning to certain researched words of Paleo Hebrew. (Ignorance on your part). Authoritatively,the watered Paleo Hebrew lexicons gradually developed after the first conquest of the Temple in Israel,which made migration ,enslavement of the Hebrew back to Egypt and other places. So also, it is recorded that Hebrew from the 10th century BCE of the late Second Temple period (lasting to c. 70 CE), developed into Mishnaic Hebrew language, which was a move away from the foundational Hebrew language. And (From about the 6th century BCE until the Middle Ages , many Jews spoke a related Semitic language, which is known as, Aramaic(Persian origin). So Aramaic was not Hebrew but a Persian kind of language that's likened to Arabic- semitic, with slight relationship with Paleo Hebrew's variation. You wont understand because it isnt meant for you.


My question:
2. Is it important for you to be famed through arrogance and poor studying ? No,because you can learn like others like us, since it is not of your calling. So position yourself to learn. After all, individual gift different in nature. So learn.

Unfortunately, if not because of your ignorance and enemy of progress's motive, that belittled your personality, you would have been able to ask questions , and compare your answers from your best friend; wiki as it seems. Anyway I am not surprised because every action taken by you online has always been negative which make a skunk out of you,on the Culture Section. In fact, a rodent is unhidden no matter,where it lurks in darkness. So learn to be humble to gain knowledge because it can be earned through rigorous studying but having it as a divine gift makes one's work smooth without hiccup.

But you are too cynical about others yet you have no knowledge to realise Bible was made pronounced and popularized in Greek.Yet you keep confusing yourself over common sense things that has been made easy through Early Hebrew linguists,which is not common but remain exceptional to have as a scholar be it one's field or a maven .

Honestly, such as you is needed but hven't I expose you once again with your desert's or more like barren knowledge ? A shame to claim what you have no knowledge on because anyone who is a student of history,of linguistic, of Genetic studying know that the presence of Greek,Roman,Coptic— Egyptians, Arabic, Hebrew lexicons etc are a product of intermingling with Yoruba words at a spot outside Nigeria because yoruba people's way of worship is not related to any group in West Africa, which was the reason it has been proved that the Yoruba developed their cosmology's knowledge, language, culture etc outside West Africa. So keep off from exposing yourself more on this platform because you lack the wherewith to stamp your authority on this platform, no matter how little because you are only filled with semantic . À to é tíì.


Rich kid , go nd study and stop exposing more of your ignorance. After all,cognate doesn't mean exactly same letters to form the word but proto language; root-sound. Then Yoruba DNA are once said to match people of Northern Europe but broke up about 100 thousands years ago.

Few questions you can't answer:
1. Have you for once consider where the Northern Europe is ?

2. Have you ask yourself things that could make such DNA link happen?

3. Why 8% DNA ghost isin Yoruba and not in other Western Africa?

4.Why are Yorubas said to be non allergic to Lassa Fever?

5. Why do Yoruba kings believed strongly in staff of Office( Opa ashé) as being used by pope,coptic leader, kings etc, which is of Semitic origin?

5. Did Yoruba developed this knowledge in West Africa?

6. Why do Yoruba pay attention to using hill(Oke) as part of their Oriki(panegyric/epithet) or the significance of Oke to Yoruba people which is not found in Ibo's history or non Yorubas in Nigeria?


Well, I know you won't answer these questions because you absolutely have no idea as absoluteSuccess has once said about you.

OlaoChi:
is Petros now a paleo-hebrew word? What scholars in 2018/19 are these?

since you do not want to use English Bible anymore, you should remember the names of characters in the English bible need to be rendered in their correct original form too, don't just shift from English bible to Greek and Hebrew as it suits you

As difficult for you to understand,so shall it be unto you forever. Like I said, it will always be difficult for you to know anything! Even with the slightest unknown information of old Greek,which was what Jesus-Yesua-Esua-Esu used during his era. Have you no knowledge the Greek language was where the Paleo Hebrew history became more pronounced? As disspointing as usual. Well, the Roman-Greek, controlled the Hebrew's Juda's colony during Jesus time, whose language was intertwined with the local's Aramaic language which was the lingua franca during Jesus era,which is known as New Testament .... As you can see, I am only teaching you what you don't know and it is not necessarily Hebrew language.

Kindly look into the mirror to stare at it to give yourself a hard knock on the head for this unstudied attitude of yours, despite your songs of being super rich . What a boastful and arrogant man.

Until, you know how to understudy the on going reconstruction of Paleo Hebrew before you can understand a bit of what we are trying to teach you and your likeminds. Little do you know, that the archaic Hebrew is actually a reconstruction through Paleo Hebrew linguists . And everything else is a mirage





Enjoy the screenshot of Greek word that is cognate with Yorubas.

OlaoChi:
you don't know anything about the yoruba, you are more jewish than yoruba so keep quiet

So,you are the real Yoruba? . You are a clown grandeur. But know it that most of you are ignorant of what God is doing through some of us with our humility.

Mr, I am not online for fun as you find joy in it but I am online to inform what I have researched. So, trust me, my work will solemnly hit the stand.

Let me ask you,the followig:

1.Did Yoruba borrowed and yorubanise àpátá from ‘,petros', and the word ‘Petra' from Greek?

2. Why is Peter turned to pètèrù in Yoruba Bible? .

Well, I am only a code breaker by the grace of God and doing cognate matching with Yorubas. And I thank God because he has been helpful through inspiration from the above.

Let me say to you that the yoruba Bible was translated from English Bible. Now ponder over this about Yoruba.
borrowed this word:

Greek: petra: stone, mass of rock
Greek: petros: rock, stone
English: Peter: rock
Yoruba: àpàtà:rock,rocky stone,mountain

This how people like you who think yoruba are from outerspace will always find it hard to see in between the thing line. Instead of you people realise that the Paleo Hebrew language was the foundational language of the Yoruba, which Western researchers are battling with its recontruction of earliest of the Paleo Hebrew which some of are seeing through the archaic Yoruba language of the Yorubas. No wonder, some scholars said the Yorubas once lived between the earliest Hebrews and the Kemets(old Egyptians). Perhaps, you can use ‘google' to help yourself since youare proud of Wikipedia as your best source to know one out of many scholars that said so about ancient Yorubas over many decades ago.

Olaochi, studying is a backbone to knowledge acquisition.

I think it is a paradox seeing this kind of shameful personality online who can't add value to a constructive information as posted on this forum without amusing many readers with his vague names. As simple as abc,everything about is contradictory. No wonder you claim Ibo-Yoruba . No identity! Perhaps, you are Biafra bound.

Trust me, iboman with a boyish style, that I don't want you to be ashamed but humbled to the extreme. In fact, you and the ignorants on this platform need try and register in other mature websites,where your faces can be seen so that you can be seen and can also see how mature and lettered people inform one and another without provocation.

And, it only showed you have problem of inferiority complex because it seems you and your likemind(s) that click on like botton of yours did not grow up without learning or mingling with the well cultured elders. A shame, isn't it? . nyway, as I and others with potent research work had informed you and others who are the unstudied minds like you need cover up your faces in shame because Yorubas are Omoluabis but you aren't. Iruru òbé gbégírí

Perhaps, the uncultured lifestyle of demdem has made you redundant in understanding the Yoruba worldview. So tighten up your seatbelt because you will soon read the mystery that God has revealed to the chosen generation of Ibri-Ivri(migrant descendants). Please, worry yourself not since you arent yoruba but Ibo because,this thing will remain a mystery to you forever no matter how you see the information. After all, Oonis in the past have claimed Yoruba are the ancestors of mankind,which is supported by part of IFA Corpus but no evidence to proof.

absoluteSuccess:
Yes that's true. Opa Oranyan is of the same valence as Absalom obelisk. I have an understanding that the Opa is the reference in the oriki onikoyi, where it says "opomulero moja ale kan, opo mura opo gbaja, ikoyi eso..." The onikoyi were the elite guard who came with the migrants and were earlier in costudy of it till God led them to where the opo must be situated as the capital city for the migrants so to say.

Once obalufon made reference to Yorubas using horses as it was in the middle east earlier on, this were the horsemen tribe of the Yoruba, the onikoyi. That they were equally merchant navy is telling in the fact that their homestead were spread all over Yorubaland, and they have a place on the Island that came to be known as Victoria Island. The word itself means IkoYi, "Circuit Squad" as navigators of old.

23. Others went out to sea in ships,

conducting trade on the mighty waters.

24. They saw the works of the LORD,

and His wonders in the deep.

25. For He spoke and raised a tempest

that lifted the waves of the sea.

26. They mounted up to the heavens, they sunk to the depths;

their courage melted in their anguish.

27. They reeled and staggered like drunkards,

and all their skill was useless.b

28. Then they cried out to the LORD in their trouble,

and He brought them out of their distress.

29. He calmed the storm to a whisper,

and the waves of the sea were hushed.

30. They rejoiced in the silence

and He guided them to the harbor they desired.

31. Let them give thanks to the LORD for His loving devotion

and His wonders to the sons of men.

32. Let them exalt Him in the assembly of the people

and praise Him in the council of the elders.

Psalm 107.

As a member of the seafearers of old, I joined my faith to yours and pray that it shall be well with you. Keep searching for phenomena and you will keep finding more. Think you can think you can't you will always be right. So my brother, you can, continue being blessed. I'm also working earnestly to see my book come to the light this year hopefully, when two or more materials are out from different source, facts emerge.

All the glory must be to The Lord, for He is worthy to be praised. Out of the mouth of babes...

As you rightly know, that of old, the wisdom of ancient Yorubas says,both the youthful and the elderly have a role to play in our society.So let us work the work now that strength has not failed us for work Almighty Ledumaare sent us to bring more glory to Yoruba land as a whole.

As you have had rightly posited that ll the glory must go to our lord is seconded by I . And hopefully, I will be waiting to read your book which I know will be filled with wealth of experience once it hits the market.



God bless
Cheers

OlaoChi:
Watch how this fraud is quick to dismiss the translation of others, used all over as that of Indomie generation yet has been debunked and exposed severally

learn what Iberia means and where it comes from, it has nothing to do with Yoruba word "ibẹru"
Olodo rabata
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebro

Till the end of the world, you are still behind me in knowledge because I learn while you make up "facts' from your asss, it's no wonder you have no sources and can't defend your claims

And what exactly have you learned over the years you have been on here ? The meaning of cognate? Right! Seriously, you need speed up to a rehabilitation center for help. Indeed you lack the pedigree to be on this platform because you virtually contribute nothing!

It is just an advise for you because you're incredibly A DEIFICIT on this platform. This does not mean I will unfollow you except stop following my moniker since I am a fearless of challenge which can be found inmy Oriki that says, Omo Dade ri n ri ogun ma sa t nri Oté má béèrù A má fi idi pa Oté mo' ilé. Kindly stop drinking Alabukun on someone's else created Post.Are you not ashamed?

absoluteSuccess:
Thanks my brother,

I appreciate your concern greatly. Good minds like yours are quite rare to come by. I have been greatly enlightened sharing ideas with folks like you, metaphysical, obalufon and recently imperialYoruba. Once in a while there should be opposing views and that is healthy.

I may not get along very well with macof, but that man is very intelligent, savvy and knowledgeable, save for his outbursts of vituperation against me on some of my positions, I strife to be calm and friendly till I really got tired. We have been on it many years till you join us.

There are other folks that are pleasant to share with, not because they agree with you, but that they help you do better with your claims. I won't forget good folks like redbonesmith, he's unbiased and responsible. I believe hayoholla is a plus to us. God bless us all.

@Olu, I miss where you said you've been able to decipher the inscription on the Opa Oranyan.

What calligraphy did it? I don't believe such is not decipherable.

Well, you did mentioned a lot of folks out there and I am aware of them too. Even if I disagree at times with these people you mentioned ,.which healthy for authenticity of what I have been doing so as to defend my claims as valid or accept such defeat if I can't be able to proof my case beyond my nose which I don't think I haven't. So, it would have been unhealthy if there is no challenge to many of our views and research work to justify our positions. Thank God there is this big challenge that has made all of us to be more studious before posting any views that's bound to be challenged.

As I had read how Professor Biobaku ridiculed the personality of Olumide Lucas as a pastor, and not a historian,which is the reason some of these few elements online are using as the basis claiming they know. Yet non either today's Nigeria's historians or over jubilee historians or linguists of Nigeria's Yorubas have done anything close to what the great man(Lucas) did. Therefore, it is important for critics of our researches to zip up their views because,‘MAVEN', is allowed in all field. I hope the intellectual dehydrated baby(ies) will know the meaning of word,‘MAVEN' . Even,as it stands, it is advisable to be certified as an authority.

As far as Élédáà, the divine guide ones part the Opa Oranmiyan, that I claimed to have broken the code isn't a LIE because I know the meaning of the inscription, which is a Middle East inscription.In fact, the cylindric bulb like of Ogun has a meaning as well. Interestingly, two different world cant have a shared word or incription without such to either lived with such people or are the same people themselves. If you recall, I made mentioned of vulture as sacred bird in my Oriki(panegyric) which is seen as dreaded,that's not meant to be killed,feed on what is given to it as a sacrifice,scary to see etc in Yoruba land, is closely seen in nearly the same context in Middle East.


Well, I dont intend to reveal the broken code on this platform because it will not bring me the necessary accolade nor give ILE life and Yoruba land more tourism opportunity since it is the whole world that I intend to quell the desire and proof the identity of yorubas since the Western researchers on lost tribes Israel have claimed they know where the Hebrew Obelisk is in Africa. I say to you that the Opa Oranmiyan is a Middle East work of Hebrew in Origin



Cheers

absoluteSuccess:
You are right brother.

However, you must take time to teach a fool about his foolishness, you know the fellow is completely ignorant and arrogant, finding flaws to stay relevant. If you don't treat some of his misconceptions, he will be putting up the facade of being enlightened. He's akso an opportunity to teach further, and not a problem per se. He has been reduced to a wailer, I will leave him after now.

Greeting to you Sir,
I know what you mean precisely because I am once perturbed at the rate of condemnation without proofing anything to counter our views but attack personalitiies whose view is different from this said man . Plainly, I realised that we cant be called wisemen and do contrary so, I appreciate you intent to quote him once in a while if need be as you have rightly said that a fool needs be taught even if he care less to absorb the glaring truth.






Remain bless
Olu

absoluteSuccess:
I'd never call myself anything in Yoruba, I just demonstrate here that I am thoroughbred Yoruba and that I have keen understanding of her history and culture and language as should a man of that culture. Time and again I have told you where I came from, every household in Yoruba have their tradition that connect them to history of the Yoruba, is your ancestry as Yoruba not a source in history? Then you are not Yoruba.

If I rewrite history from my mind, that means history is on my mind, if I invent and make up facts, uncover facts that can abrogate my facts with the facts at the sources at your disposal, stop complaining, I did not hold your brain, I did not stop you from going the opposite direction wherever I go, trying to stop me is simply that you are insecure.

Iberia: this place is a coast in today Portugal, but in the period of Yoruba migration, its part of the meditarenian coasts that the seafering Yoruba ancestors do business, and had first hand knowledge of such places and beyond. some centuries back, Yoruba refers to muslims as imale, this being "Mali", also they made a contraption of Sierra Leone to Saro, they also reduce wazir (tafsir) to waasu, an arabic word.

Now a man of Portugal gave Lagos its name as "Lagos De Curamo". Was there a record in that encounter with Yoruba traditionalists you often send us to for history? We knew because the European wrote and kept the record, but we don't have Africa's recorded version of the visit. Did the visit happened? Was he the first sailor in history of the ocean from Portugal to Lagos? Why should there be any?

Many event that happen has no fixed record in local tradition. It never mean it never happen, the record are embedded in words, like you have in Lagos or Kuramo. I see you refer me back to geography? Hmm, you are classroom conscious but knowledge deficit, will they be teaching you about etymology of words in geography class, did they teach you about the origin of the word Lagos in geography?

Ibadan

Have you define ibadan like that? Ibadan, iba Odan, edge of the savannah. You are a typical OLODO. Does the word IBA mean edge in your own side of Yorubaland? Then you donated that meaning to the Ibadan to make up a word for their homeland long ago. Many Yoruba will tell you that Ibadan is from Eba (note, not Iba, Yoruba for esunsun or fever). So according to that etymology, its eba odan, not iba odan.

How did you get the right meaning and fail the morpheme? Because you copied from a site where the story is told but the original writer left out that part of word changes to avoid the burden of proof, so like a hapless copycat copying people's matric number when they cheat, you copy the same mistake and landed yourself another error of interpretation that question your origin.

Iberu

If Iberu is fear, what does "eru" mean? At least the Yoruba often says, "eru o tie kin ba e", where "eru" is noun and "ba" is verb. I've said the word is a phrase, but you are too foolish to understand what a phrase mean. Iberu is a phrasal verb. You that can break Ibadan to iba Odan, use the same morphological lemma for Iberu too, don't tell me its one whole word that never break to morphemes, when ibadan does.

Ijaiya

Ijaya is to be frighten, lol: so you use English word to butress Yoruba word because there are no better synonyms in the language to butress your point. So "o jami laya" means "you frighten me" then, o jami lekanna must have an element of fright, o funmi laya, o kimi laya, o tami laya, o kami laya" we dont know if all have element of fright though. What you do is to find synonyms of the same word and claim that to be the truest meaning to you to do what you want to do, still you fail.

Your interpreter on the internet is an "indomie generation" feeding you shallow insight and you sef, you can't even perceive how feeble your ruse is because you are not just intelligent.



Ibadan lo mo oomo laipo.

Let him be bro because he distracts. If I say to you , I have broken the forklike inscription on Opa Oranmiyan,would you believe it? The mystery of God is beyond human,so why try proof a point to someone who thinks he knows but knows not because he fail to see the difference between cognates and false cognates? This ought be an eye opener for you Sir! Have you not learned from my flaws? So dont fall to his trap as I DID EARLIER on this Platform. Even if I am 100% correct about MY ANCESTRY . Please teach what you know I lacked online and if need be , in person. After all, we are disciples of history through all the available methods known to mankind.

With humility do I plead with you to proof no more point to him because you are making him Olaochi having a filled day. Truthfully, I say to you Sir, make him irrelevant for us the right thinking minds to learn from your wealth of experience because :


Sir,knowledge belong to who want to see things from a thin line and understand it.

Wisdom belongs to who want to know the reason
nature is suspended before mystery is made manifest.


While understanding belong to tbe gods that make things of God made manifest on earth through divine ways. So why belittle your awesome gift? I doff my hat for you and others but let a foolish man act in continuum. And I hope Eledumaare make you understand my stance.








Cheers

Obalufon:
. We don't share anything with ibos ..Bantu and pigmy share DNA with ibos you people are forest mongrel. Naked people.... Ibos are bantu and pigmy your kins are in equitoria Guinea Cameroon koma people

I hope you will neglect Ìshèótà( enemy's work).This said young man on this platform who is here to bring this forum to irreavancy is dehydrated intellectually and want to know through deceptive means. So ignore him because of my personal experience earlier on this platform.

In genuineness as you being a traditional believer, which is still an embrace ideology of mine need inform say to you to inform us once you have information to share because it is important you are part of the solution so that many Yoruba traditionalists and western knowledgeable Yorubas as well as western redearchers who had interpreted part of what the know and unable to interprete beyond certain means need understand that the inscription on the opa Oranmiyan does not mean his years on earth, his reign or his walking stick but a Code for us to break, who his ancestors and his peoples ancestors were so that the rigid scholars who have not thought about finding out why unique construction and inscription are found in old cities in Yoruba land can be thought.


I want you and curiousmo minds to Kindly ponder over these following questions ,which are:

1. Has any also heard of an inscription found in Idanre mountain that's not readable?

2. How was it possible for Yoruba to have such iron nails construction around 1 millennium or 1100-1200AD to write the inscription on Opa(obelisk) oranmiyan without the interpretation of the inscription even after 1000+ years after?

3. What method did they use to insert the iron nails into the granite gneiss of opa oranya?

4.What technological instruments did they make use of in achieving the insertion of the iron nails into oranmiyan obelisk?


5. Has anymore been able to reproduce the design of the iron nails look like a ‘three-pronged forklike configuration”?

6. How did the iron nails have a bullet-like appearance?

7. How was Opa Ogun which is located also in Ileife is made and shaped to look like a cylindrical bulb?

8. What is the significance of stone works in Ileife which are classified as Art works which are Middle East inspired work?

9. Why are these work in ILE IFE and other Yoruba ancient towns have stones works made from granite or gneiss?


10.How were these stone works made from local granite or gneiss?



I hope all of us will do his or her best to place yorubas as the language which must be learned by all who want to know the classical Early Paleo-Hebrew Semitic language.




Cheers

ImperialYoruba:
Beside Hebrew and Arabic, I even think Yoruba and Greek or Latin may have also have shared culture and civilization in the distant past.

How else can we explain that many words in English derived from Latin are also found in Yoruba with exact same meaning. They are not borrowed words through colonialism.

Bode - Border
Ibudo - Abode
Iduro - Endure
Iparada - Paradox
Orisa - Oracle
Iregun - Origin

...and many more.


Yoruba, the most Superior race on earth!

There is over 75% possibility of the borrowed or transfer words or exchange between Greek and ancient Yorubas due to war and the driven away of Yoruba from their original land in Middle East. In fact, the English borrowed IRON from Paleo-Hebrew . And invariably, it was derived from archaic Yoruba ancestors,word,‘IRIN'. The same way,other words are cognates with ancient Semitic Middle Eastern languages

Anyway, I thank Eledumare who has thought me something I wouldn't have been able to know till the end of time without his instruction and inspiration.My appreciation goes to him forever. And I hope you and others continuously do so because it is not by our power but the mercy of Ori, who is explicitly creation of our Élédáà( creator)

ImperialYoruba:
He cant deny it.

Olachi, kedu mmaka?
Anthropologists confirm Igbo is migrant from a Bantu origin. Each region of Africa also have distinct physiology. We may be politically in same country but Ibo is a Central African. Your physiology contains dense muscle and stockiness. For instance you are not kitted for hunting but you are very good at ambushing.

Anyway, these many people cannot be wrong in saying you are okoro. You smell like one!

Let me see...he is going to ask for evidence of smell.

ImperialYoruba:
So I continue with the exercise of tying Yoruba and Arab together as one consistent link of culture separated by civilization, one the originator, the other a successor.

There are two prominent markers for Arabs.

1. The pre-Islamic deity worshipers in the North.

2- the post-Islamic dynasties in the South.


The pre-Islamic was identified as Koreish, also called Quraysh or Quraishi or Koreishi.

The second, that of dynasties is identified as Qahtan and tribes of Adramit (Hadramaut) and their settlement of Oman and the Hijaz. I will discuss these people when I get to talk about Ado and Adimu and all that.


For now lets inspect KOREISH.
This is a marker for those known as a people that greet or reverence or give obeisance to ORISHA.

Ki orisha
Ki oreish
K'oreish
Koreish

The Koreish occupied and controlled Mecca. The Koreish were descended from the lineage of Kinana, the same lineage which Sultan Bello and Ahmed Baba recorded when they described Yoruba as Banu Kanaana, the tribe of Nimrud.

Progenitor of Koreish was Adnan, son of Ad.


The Koreish controlled Mecca and vicinity, Kaaba included. Inside the Kaaba they had an altar and also carved images symbolizing their deities (Orishas). To these images they will prostrate and give greetings and offerings to the Orishas who they will beg to intercede on their behalf before Almighty God, the one and only. The images served only as physical object to focus the service and meaning for their faith in the unseen and invincible Orishas. These carved images were called SIGIDI. This is already explained by metaphysical in one of the quotes from him on this thread.

When Koreish prostrate he will touch his forehead to the ground and implore his Orisha to bring him divine goodies and give him salvation and success in his material posessions and in afterlife.

This act of prostration exist in Yoruba culture as well. The Yoruba always has a altar in his household or in a shrine. The first act of the day is Ibori. He prostrates infront of his sigidi and pray to Orisha for his survival overnight, for his daily bread, for his family and material posession and then for his return home in safety and wellness. This prostration Yoruba call ISOJUDE.


A new world order then arrived and disrupted the normal and mainstream culture in Mecca. That new order was Islam. It came through Prophet Muhammad (saws).

Muhammad himself was a son of Koreish. He grew up in the ways and traditions of those who prostrate to Orisha. His practice in divine glory, through greetings and offerings to deities served as a conduit through which his consciousness opened and able to receive holy inspirations when Angel Gabriel or Jubril appeared to him. He became an awakener for his own people and a leader throughout the whole world. May his soul rest in everlasting peace, Amin!

He set many pillars around the practice of the faith. One of them is daily prayer for his followers, Muslims.


A muslim will first perform ablution to enter a state of cleanliness.

He will then stand facing Kaaba, the sacred Temple.

Next he will begin with an intent to clear his mind.

He will then say Allahu Akbar.
Metaphysical explained this. He said this means God is the Greatest. He then gives its Yoruba cognate to be Olorun Al' Agbara.

He recites Fatiha (1st chapter of Quran) followed by another chapter and then bow over with hands placed on the knees. Muslims call this position Rukuuh.
Metaphysical explains its Yoruba cognate as Orukun, which in the language refers to knee.

The muslim will come out of the bow position and stand upright, then immediately go into prostration and touch his head to the ground. Muslims call this Sujuud.
Metaphysical explains this is Yoruba position for Isojude.

So it appears that certain aspects of muslim rites of prayer took origin from the practices in Kaaba where the Koreishi submit himself in prostration to greet and honor his Orisha. In fact the positions in those prayers coincide with similar positions observed by Yoruba when he goes before his altar to greet his Orisha. In addition, the muslim lexicon in the rite of prayer are cognates in Yoruba descriptive words for body parts employed or engaged in that respective action.

The Koreish were Aborisha like the Yorubas. They would enter Kaaba and give offerings on Wednesday. That's how IRUBO (ARBA) became a day of reckoning on their calendar just like it did for Yorubas Wednesday called IRUBO (Ojo Ru).


Yoruba and Koreish shared culture but were separated by civilizations.

When we talk of borrowed words, Arabic borrowed from Yoruba.
I will show this more clearly when we do name attributes. That would come after discussion on Ado.

The Paleo-Hebrew call it : zabah
verb
Meaning:to slaughter, and since "all eating of flesh among the ancient Hebrews was sacrificial" (says BDB Theological Dictionary), it's also the verb for to sacrifice in a ritualistic sense.




Yoruba call it: Ìs'ébó,Sébó
Meaning: sacrifice performance,to perform sacrifice
Thereafter,Ébo ru ,Ébo gbà

OlaoChi:
Look at them. Africans fighting over who is hebrew and who is not among themselves as if being descended from Hebrews is the greatest achievement a people can have

You people need healing

Why quote me? Are you not Ibo too? And yes Mr ignorant... Yoruba is the ritual language of the early Hebrews. If you hate Semitic origin of Yoruba, then go away from this platform.

Kindly stop playing the good guy because you have nothing tangible to offer on Yorubas history on this platform nor have meaningful advise to offer anyone. Instead, of you to call your cousin ibo brother that delved into what he has no knowledge on to order but you are filled with nothing but insensitivity to the truth. As expected, a bad judge,will always be known, no matter what,a leopard can't change its skin. So, it's better you flee to your Ibo family and let Yoruba be!

For your information, I owe you no explanation for defending Yoruba's ancient history because I asked you to denounce my researched Yoruba words and its Semitic counterpart,but you have nothing to reference nor to counter. In fact,what good can come out of you,an enemy of truth ? Nothing But ENVY.

Evil reside with Evil and cannot be made manifest in the goodness posited in the body of the ‘gods '( man) through the wisdom of God. As usual your path is already known, not because of your disagreement but your mindset isfillled with negativity against everyone except Your own version of Africa's dark skin people. Ignorant you, Genevieve Nnaji's, ‘Lion Heart' movie raked $3.8Million for her and guess what?It was bought over by netflix,owned by a white who is called, Morgan Stanley that believed in encouraging Africans from Africa even if it has economic gain. Who is the now the Racist?...Evil person and like minds get thee behind me,I say.


Note: I will not engage you to divert the intent of this thread as I did last 2018. So,I won't quote on distraction. Go learn Jaare because this 2019

IkpuMmadu:
Yoruba are confused....there is nothing to show that Yoruba has relationship with Jews from culture to business orientation , stop making yourself a laughing stock

Just imagine how ignorant you have been! It will be a waste of time dealing with you which will take 5000+ years from now before your ignorance can be wipe out because you lack the willingness to LEARN. SO, live in your disjointed ignorance.

Least I forget, Ibos are early Kemetic through linguistic comparison.Trust me, I won't do such cognate comparison on this thread because you are irrelevant on Yoruba platform.

Let me teach some Ignorant you that who lacked the pedigree to understudy because once some of the see a word,they quickly related to their own's langauge without doing linguistic research to proof if such word could be related in more than twenty meaning,with a to ears one being related to their local language. But instead, you will see some,playing the hate card.


And ooh yes,I have more to show. Unlike your kind that use Eri,Ged/Gad,Ada etc as your link... . You see, many of your type blundered and, I will treat the name ‘ADA', today,so as to expose your ignorance.Below is the meaning of ‘Ada', in Paleo-Hebrew, Ibo and Yoruba:

Paleo Hebrew: Adaha'-da (`adhah,which means Meaning : “adornment",splendour

Ibo/Igbo: Ada
Meaning: first daughter ×

Yoruba': Àdà/ dah-Dà
Meaning: adornment, splendour, beautiful



Paleo Hebrew:Elyon
Meaning: most highest,most high-God(by extention ;lord of heaven and earth

Ibo: Chukwu
Meaning:most high-God ×

Yoruba: olorun-olohun
Meaning: most high– God(by extension; lord of heaven and earth

OMO IBO, as you can see that Yorubas didn't and dont share their RITUAL/SACRED LANGUAGE WITH IBOS...In fact, I know the classical PaleoHebrew Root word for this name. So flee when you see Yoruba digging deep into the past... Yoruba language is the RITUAL LANGUAGE OF WORSHIPPING GOD

Lastly, I pity you omoIbo... because you are on wrong platform with right set of people....I advise you to flee from here lease it becomes unbearable intellectually for you.

IkpuMmadu:
Yoruba people confused as ever

1. From Mecca
2. From Oduduwa who fell and landed at Ife
3. From Oduduwa who came from Benin
4. From Sudan
5. Now from Hebrew ....these dudes are confused as ever and nobody ever takes them serious again



At least we can see the Igbo correlation with Hebrew
Even their name Hebrew - Hibo - Ibo

We can see their cultures for centuries ago and they have said it for over 500 yrs and maintain their Hebrew trains and links


But Yoruba ....copy copy

If I am a Yoruba I would be so embarrassed...always confused

Ignorance is your problem. Insibidi man, at least give yourself into reading and not assumption . You see,In 1909, Macgregor noted that European influence nsibidi .

Go find your history Hibo man,if you are badly hurt. After all, some scholars says Hibo is the oldest language in the world and the original Bantu group . In fact, your cry to be acknowledged as early Hebrew has been denounced.Perhaps find another link to buttress your history. Mind you, you are the master in copying everything.

People like you are too unstudied and need not even comment on forum as this but POLITIC SECTION that befit you and your likes because you lack the pedigree on this platform. As unstudied you did you not know that the history of Mecca acknowledged it as a town Hebrews-Eber-Ivri/Ibri once lived before they left this land.



Go read Mr.man!

bluke:
how they confused us more

75. “AI B R” in ancient hebrew
(Eber) in modern Hebrew).
“AI Ba òóRé” in paleo hebrew (yoruba) meaning “one who occupied
land/region beyond”.

from this they coined abram, abraham

In order to make us all understand, kindly beam more light on the following questions:

1. What's the meaning of Yoruba'a Abòóré/Al boore?

2. What's Òóré diety?

3. Is Yoruba'a Abòóré/Al boore and Hebrew's Eber cognate?

4. Can you interpret early Hebrew or late age(Aramaic )letter?


Perhaps you can interpret a piece leviticus letters that were found in 1970s but became reconstructed some few years ago

5. How did you arrive at the root of Al B R as the meaning of Abòóré?





Cheers

bluke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aj7KIDckNc&index=6&list=PLQvQ-5J6evR3mHuTpNlFN-WYXz0B5aqsL

pls you can check this youtube for translation of paleo hebrew to yoruba. (biblical passage)

I don't need to go to your YouTube link to verify it anymore because I already downloaded the pdf of your work. Beside, I don't agree with your method of using yoruba to pronounce the intrepreted Paleo Hebrew and English translation that's filled with error except you learned and understand Paleo-Hebrew through the Archaic Hebrew linguists,who had tried to reconstruct the early Hebrew classical language even if they are struggling to reconstruct the Hebrew language from its foundation


Lastly, if you are sure of your view on paleo-Hebrew,through your interpretation while using yoruba, then break the inscription on Opa Oranmiyan . Mind you the word-name; Oranmiyan has 'resh and yod'.


Cheers

Opiletool:
I read where you described 'Ifa' as the ancient 'Ephod', and I think you might be right about that. I read more on it, and the description is very interesting.

Well, Ifa as far as I am concerned is what the interpreters of paleo Hebrew were describing. It's quite astonishing seeing this as an eye opener to Yoruba's footprint in the land of Or—Mesopotamia.

One day,some critics will appreciate some of us who already have been given the foresight and information to proof this.


Cheers.

hayoholla:
yes sire. doing good, sent you a mail sef.

i must confess, I have enjoyed every post in this great thread, thanks in large measures to you great contributors. you really opened my eyes to a lot of things. this is the only thread that I keep on refreshing my browser page for new updates. my wish is this topic should be confined in the corridors of the culture section of nairaland alone. we need to do more by spreading the gospel of our great and mysterious culture by redefining and reverting back to the original and undiluted status quo of Yoruba history, not the one that has been watered and force down our throat.

I find it also surprising how you people got this volume of info stored up there. please I want to join your league oo. absolute success, olu 317, obalufon, macof, imperial Yoruba et all. want to sit down at your feet and learn more .

Quite a piece you wrote up there . But I must confess, that your opinion has placed me on an angle to be cautious because I am highly challenged with the way you see some of us. Honestly, I hope you won't forget that we are all humans and do have flaws. So , don't see us as all in all because even you, can make a difference.

You see, as we are called to repositioned the history of Yorubas from the broken angle do we try so much to investigate the history of Yorubas from a unique angle that's different from taboos and myth but from all groups perspective that left Ileife even before or after Oranminyan descendants. In fact, the Yoruba history is too filled with myth that this myth has made many scholars wrong the history of Yorubas from misconception. Plainly the Yoruba history is the most interesting in this era!

KingSango:
It's the woolly haired African all over the planet that is the sons of God. Other straight haired, Caucasians, Asians and Indians came from recent man mixing with animal to form human hybrid.


Yoruba is not the original only one of the root bloodlines that ruled over the African. Africa is the birth place of the African, all our sacred knowledge and traditions are contained by societies in Africa ruled by royal families. Oduduwa came from the East as did many Africans when the Nile civilization crumbled. 12th century it's Mamluks ruling in Egypt and Middle East. These were sodomite soldiers raised as Christians are like the Islamic were intolerant to African philosophy which Prince Oduduwa taught.

Filter out the bias towards Yoruba or any Nigerian ethnic group or religious thought because alot has changed in these many centuries.

Well, Oduduwa didn't teach anyone as you have imagined because the name was a link between the descendants and their ancestor, who was the chosen one to bear the kingly lineage. If you can grapple with this, then you will understand the reason Oduduwa has become the most popular name within the Yoruba 's world for family pride , economic benefit , traditional benefit etc. As far as I am concerned the man was a spiritualist.

Opiletool:
OK.
Thank you for your time!

Thank you too.

Opiletool,
Esu ma sè mi Omo élo mi ni o sè is a modern Yoruba proverb in the context of archaic Yoruba language, because Esu being dented as Evil came through the written dictionary of Samuel Ajayi Crowther. In fact, Chief Ebenezer Obey, made it more popular in one of his Evergreen Album. And this is the greatest challenge for us all to right this wrong. Sometimes, many people read the bible and they find it hard to comprehend because ‘el' the mighty power create and destroys,whom is called God. After all the mighty one allow darkness and sunlight on the good and bad ones. What do you call such Almighty Powerful God? .

Esu is a name which mean savior from the angle of Early Hebrew translated books. And I am sure you are familiar with the word savior,which is an English word for Hebrew's Esua (Jesus). Well, the personality of Jesus says of him as the light that allow good and bad on the earth .

The other interesting angle is that the name of savior Biblical Joshua-Esua,who was the first man to bore the name in the Bible. Funny enough,Joshua is an English variation of Yesua-Esua,which mean, ‘Savior'. As surprisingly it is, Yoruba history also had Esu who are two different personalities; one who lived as a man and the other personality Esu whose spirit protect or saves Yorubas.


*modified*

want2knowben:
You vowelise not the root word but the root consonants, and that is what you did in your example. Paleo Hebrew is all consonants (represented by hieroglyphics), and so was arabic until the 8th Century.

I don't nor did I vowelize early Hebrew oooo but use root word and translated meaning by western researchers that I used to match Yoruba words. So, it is different from your pattern. This also lead to my assertion

Plainly, the man Jacob(aqeb) was not the first child that came out of first among the twin but an Usurper when deceived his father through his mother when the blessing was placed on him wrongly ; He that overthrew the first to be recognised as the first.This changed between Esau and Akob-Aqeb. Although the word akobakob-Aqeb-Yakob stuck in a reversal way of saying it,according to early Hebrew linguists. This however didn't change the status of other first Born in the history of Ivri(Ibri)-Hebrew .




Cheers

Opiletool:
Yet people say "esu mase mi, omo elomi ni o se"
How the hell was he a saviour then?
I do not subscribe to that idea of esu being jesus. Besides not everything Yoruba must have a Hebrew equivalent. We should have some form of originality.

I don't need to convince you sir but Samuel Ajayi Crowther was actually the reason for this. But my advise to you is to ask the traditionalists to explain the meaning of Esu to you,so that you will be able to see how some people manipulate Yoruba word wrongly.

Lastly, Yoruba is as real as the rest of the people and the originality of Yoruba is as real as the rest of the other ethnicity. But if you are passionate about being Yoruba ,then BREAK THE INSCRIPTION ON OPA (OBELISK) ORANMIYAN.



Cheers

rhektor:
The thread was in January 2018 sir. How have you been sir? Happy New year to you

Oh I see....Happy New Year to You too.


Cheers