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 Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 9:44am On Aug 31, 2018 |
 So it is hard for some people to understand divinity-as a form of inspiration to one's research  ? Do you even know how studied I am? Anyway ,I give glory to Eledumare, who is my God and who was the God of my ancestors and will always be the God of my descendants. Who is your God?Okay,how did Orunmila had all the knowledge he encoded in Yoruba's IFA? I guess he wasn't divinely inspired  ? Wonders never ends.Anyway, I have screenshot the institute word for ‘water' because it seems you are making frantic effort to proof me wrong but you can't fight the information I display on here. I have done justice to the meaning of water and I can do to all word shared online by me,which is contrary to your self acclaimed knowledge, that can't differentiate between plural form and singular form of ‘water' which is ,‘mayim'or ‘mayeem'. Infact th mayim existed during the ‘late age '. Unfortunately, the non Western world speakers are the ones bringing out this information. to show to the world of the ancient language of Hebrew.Stop chasing shadow and be humble to learn about ancient Semitic and ancient Egyptian language. You can look up egyptologists account on the web. Lastly, I will not say to you, ‘ get a life ,' because you are the one who is struggling to stay afloat on this overwhelming information,which you got through me that you CANNOT know it exists in your lifetime .All thanks to divinity and research work .Give credit to me for exposing you to things your like minds and you don't know. 1 Like |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 8:46am On Aug 31, 2018*. Modified: 12:53pm On Sep 27, 2018 |
In as much as the people who feel the need to attack my personality are irrelevant to the reality and evidence to this thought provoking information being shared.Then I see no reason to stop informing the right mindset who need to be intellectually provoked to see reason that Yoruba as the people of old were emigrants to this present day Nigeria. Categorically, there is no iota of doubt in my mind about the mystery of Yoruba Race,which researchers are trying to resolve through all form of Genealogy theories which include, Oral ,written and genetic-DNA link. The western researchers kept bringing out information through hieroglyphs, pictographs, cuneiform inscriptions,but here, few elements think it is being emotional attached to Hebrew, which I laugh over reading their attack on my personality but little do they that attack on anyone's personality doesn't change the empirical and theory of ancient Yoruba language. Hebrew: mi-mem-ma-mah (singular) Meaning:water Hebrew:mayim-mayeem(plural) Meaning: any form of water,sea Hebrew: yam Meaning: sea Yoruba: omi,àmi,ùmí Meaning: water |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 8:42am On Aug 31, 2018 |
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| Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 12:18am On Aug 31, 2018*. Modified: 11:11pm On Dec 21, 2019 |
hayoholla:Àwón àgbà pè ,‘ Iwà l'òbà àwùrè .Hmmmm I don't always engage people with who are emotionally attached to what they dont but uses negative terms because I wasn't brought up in that manner. Well, I belong to a generation that cane was the order of the day to straightened any erring child, so being a deep thinker before reaction has mastered my personality. So ,I am always careful because I don't know who is reading as it concerns here. I must confess, I appreciate your concern over a lot of issue and obviously the person that attacked my personality is of the same ancestry with Olugbo....So I know where his strength lies and his hostility. And I don't expect everyone to agree with me as you had clearly stated but when it gets to negative words being used on me , I stop quoting such person when it degenerate to such state because if one need a defence line on a subject matter, references should be in numbers and not defamation of character. You see, I am on this platform temporarily to inform and I don't have any intention to discredit my lineage or Yoruba history's account but germane questions are unanswered ,which made the history of Yoruba inconsistent. Take for instance, the following questions: 1. How can Yoruba and Ibos came from the same source and not known? 2. How can the list of all the kings before Ooni Odua not made public? 3.How come Ibos Igbo ukwu artifacts is older than Ileife's? 4. How come lamb serves this same purpose as the ancient Hebrew ? 5. How come Yoruba is the only group in subsahara that recognised Aries power ( Ram) as a symbol of royalty and still kill it for sacrifice ? 6. How come Yoruba language stand alone in southern Nigeria,even the Igala that shared semblance don't have strong affinity with the germane Yoruba lexicons? 7. How come Yoruba word are shared with far away people in middle east( ancient Hebrew,Arabs and Egypt? 8. How come Yoruba had knowledge of eternal knots ,which is also known as Solomon's knot stand as royal design in Yoruba world? 9. How can Orunmila ,who is the pioneer of Ifa's knowledge was not known by Ibos, Hausa and Nok people if it all started in Nigeria? 10. How come it is hard to interprete the hieroglyphs on oranyan's staff since over 1000 years? 11.How did they gave birth to Olofin Ooni and Obatala? There are so many ‘how '... without answers. And when I make reference to scholar work,they use negative words. 12. How come Àarà is used for thunder in Yoruba land and not used in Hausaland,Igala,Borgu,Ibos , Fulani West Africa, subsahara Africa etc but has Semitic link? These were some of the things I asked they should explain to us but instead they use negative words on me . Lastly, I had stated previously that time will tell. Regard 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Culture › Re: Names Of Various Animals In Yoruba Language by Olu317(m): 11:25pm On Aug 30, 2018 |
godfatherx:I have no intention to deviate from the posting. I only made mention on the knowledge I had long time ago. K Cheers. 1 Like |
| Culture › Re: Names Of Various Animals In Yoruba Language by Olu317(m): 6:11pm On Aug 30, 2018 |
godfatherx:Contrary to your opinion, Èkun as a tiger's name had existed long before the arrival of Europeans/Colonial masters in Yoruba land. In fact, its skin is amongst the paraphernalia you find in the Yoruba's King's palace and also with Princes in the ancient time to show status. 1 Like |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 2:13pm On Aug 30, 2018*. Modified: 3:39pm On Aug 30, 2018 |
absoluteSuccess:Àshé oo. Ba' Ibèjí n jè oo . Ée édà n gbíyánjú ní nítorípè olorun ní nwo omo . Amó o bí éní tí o bì mí l'omo shè wo mí d'àgbà bée ní èmí nà à wo àwón omo mí l'àshé èdúmáàrè. Éní'rè, àwón àgbà'gbà wípè ílè àyèe ílè oogùn ní.Bée ní ómó àrà'yè o fé'ní fo'ro àfí orí éní. This is the reality about the world we live in. Our ancestors were challenged too in the same manner as you ,I or anyone is on the path of revelation that is not known to anyone but given divinely.These people became the deities being honored and offering of ancestral sacrifices to as to connect to them. So ,your callling must not be ignored. Ájánákù kó já mo rí nkán fírí tí à bà ní à rí èerín kà ní à rí èrin. You are awesome In as much as you are inspired by the divine power please do not ignore it because it will pay out once you don't quit. Má pé l'àyè Ojù mí o ní rí'bí, wà mú ókàn nínú é ní o. This is the life we all choose as humans for success or failure . I stongly beilieve your name will be written on the sands of time and God almighty will make you succeed no matter the challenges . Tí à ro ìbon àmà tún kíì ní. There is something I will like to draw your attention toward and it is about being unique in what one does. Trust me there is a right time for everything and I am definite that your glory will spring forth like the way the morning springforth. Àfí àílà ójó bí ójó bà là áà là kèdèrè l'ashé èdúmáàrè àtí gbogbo éní ti o fé gbè yorúbà gàa . Remain lifted forever Cheers. |
| Culture › Re: Yorubas Are Moors by Olu317(m): 6:37am On Aug 30, 2018*. Modified: 9:52am On Aug 30, 2018 |
Obalufon:Let me clearly let you know the following: 1.Dont rush into issue to score a point because it is more complex than you think. 2. Have you see where I quoted in the Bible to nail the Darkskin-Pale Yellow complexion of The Ancient Hebrews from King James Version? They were not white but a variant Dark skin Race 3. The maltreatment of some of the darkskin people in Israel , was borne out of inferiority complex of some diehard Blacks, the Falashas( Ethiopians- Jews) that were transported from Ethiopia to Israel which begun around,1974 . The Bible say, be deligent in your work and you will stand among princes and not mean men . This has been the natural belief among Yorubas because it is inborne with Yorubas. 4. Th richest ethnicity in Africa is no other group than the Yorubas.Do you really think it is a fluke? The most recognise kings in Africa by the western world are Ooni and Alaafin. Do you think,it is by chance? Do you think the white wuldnt make mockery of Yorubas if Yorubas were like ‘ COMMON AFRICANS as some white-caucasians calls some Africans without respect . The information in the care of the western researchers is overwhelming ,which made them recognise Yoruba Race. 5. Unlike many other people in Africa,who are fearful, The Yoruba are accommodating because they see themselves as not inferior to any Race,which is the basis of the inquision on Yoruba people. Yorubas dont see anyone or Race superior to hers. In fact, during the colonial Era, Yorubas were said to be most developed ethnic group in sub sahara Africa. 6. Black Jews and Other Jews in Israel don't speak the ancient Hebrew, if you are interested in this history,you can check the period of the modern Hebrew language that developed ,over two centuries ago. And Ethiopia Jews are like the Ibos who claimed Jewish ancestry through oral but not strong evidence either through linguistic or archeology. Research carried out showed the Falasha were a convert through Ethiopia's Coptic link to Israel. The Falashas population was small,which made it easier for them to be uplifted to Israel gradually eversince 1974 or thereabout till 1980s. Funny enough, there are Yemeni Jews who were dark skin too. Have you read about them ? Furthermore, check this link,which is provided by MetaPhysical; https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.tz1k9h view=1up;seq=1 Once you get to the link,go to search engine and type Yoruba. Once you do this, go to pg37; it says, ‘Yoruba had commercial intercourse with Egypt, is rendered almost certain by the fact that "segi," a kind of ancient Egyptian beads, are dug from the earth at Ife and other places'. The Bible says; Proverb 22:29 King James Version Seest thou a man diligent in his business? he shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men. World English Bible Do you see a man skilled in his work? He will serve kings. He won't serve obscure men. The above biblical quote is the reason YORUBA RACE STOOD TALL AMONG ALL DARK SKIN ,EVEN DURING SLAVERY ERA. Today, the Yoruba Race is celebrated worldwide. On a last note, what do you know about the myth of Yoruba account from ILEIFE that claimed even white descended from Yoruba Race? Kindly share your experience
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| Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 2:26pm On Aug 29, 2018*. Modified: 3:10pm On Aug 29, 2018 |
absoluteSuccess:Smiling while reading this piece of information that's heavily challenging considering your belief on my personality, which made me remembered three decades ago that my mom had a vision....... Hmmmm, contrary to your believe in coordinating of your home through self effort, which is absolutely incorrect because, ‘no woman in every thousand(1000) is found to be good'(Ecclesiastes 7:28 ).Only God grants man with a virtuous woman(Proverbs 19:14) .Trust Eledumare , your home is already built on Olorun's foundation and you should only consolidate on it. And I do believe your wife knows your calling and supportive of it as regard the work you do and doing in showcasing the glory of Yoruba to the world.The Yoruba people who were the chosen people of God because they were the ones God started to manifest himself in physical to the world. As regard the duty call , I am not different from you nor others Sir, because being a husband and father isn't easy at all whichever way you look at it,especially,he that wants OMOLUIWABI children as descendants.Èemí olu317 ti o bèerè fún ókàn, tí èji lo wólè to mi wà,mo jùbáà. And see me not as someone who is taking the mantle from you because it is not possible because you are among the chosen and I am a mortal man with flaws ,who is learning from all of you that believe in this school of thought. Omodè gbón àgbà gbón ní wón fí dà'lé Ìfé . We must walk the work to make it work because all have a role to play in this work. And I became part of this forum to support you,MetaPhysical and others that have Knowledge ,wisdom and understanding on this subject matter. Èlèdúmáàrè à fùn wà níi okùn àtí àgbárà làtí lèkè Seal seal seal.....Nostalgic Unforgettable.... Billy Ocean's ‘Suddenly,' was my favourite, when I was really younger...On a last note,‘winners never quit and quitters never win'. Cheers 1 Like 1 Share |
| Culture › Re: Inspection & Examination Of Yoruba And Its Footprints In Ancient Times. by Olu317(m): 3:18pm On Aug 28, 2018 |
@ MetaPhysical, have you knowledge of a known download link of this Journal or pdf's ? The information therein is useful for my work. So, I need a full copy of the Journal,preferably, the e-copy . Regard. |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 9:56am On Aug 28, 2018*. Modified: 10:49am On Aug 28, 2018 |
Who exactly were the controversial Hebrew that had a culture that developed through Ethiopia, Nubians and Ancient Kemet? First the story of Hebrew started with Abraham, the documented patriarch of Hebrew descendants. To know the history, we must find out the genealogy of Abraham ancestors before his descendants' and their complexion. Who was Abraham's ancestor? Abraham's father was Terah. And Terah's father was Nahor son of Serug , descent of Shem. Terah who was relative of Nimrod was a merchant who sold Idols in the city of Ur . It is a widely known fact that Nimrod was the son of Cush. And Cush was the progenitor of Nubians and Ethiopians. Both Nubians and Ancient Ethiopians were known as Black people, which made Nimrod a dark skin man. Who was the Hebrew's ancestor ? Since Abraham ancestor had being linked to a dark skin people ,then his direct descendants must have a dark skin traits. Abraham gave birth to Ishmael and Isaac's Lineage. According to the Biblical reference, he was the first to be called Hebrew,(Gen 14:13). He was said to had came from the land of Ur(ORR) of the Chaldeans (Gen13:13),which is in present day Iraq. Who were the Chaldeans? Godfrey Higgins, a reliable English antiquary says,‘The Chaldeans were originally Negroes'. Professor Rudolph Windsor is in total agreement with this , which he stated in his very noteworthy book, ‘FROM BABYLON TO TIMBUKTU'. He wrote, ‘ The Chaldeans and of that Region were jet black in their complexion'. Today, Basra people are dark skin people indigenous in Iraq to proof this point. Etymology of Ur of Iraq The root word which is ‘ORR' that has been translated to mean fire oven. The name is a descriptive of the heat of the sun in that region with over 120 degrees. This location was also the ancient Sumerian civilization begun . The Sumerians called themselves ‘Saggig', which is interpreted as ‘black headed ones' because they shaved their heads . A roman Historian, named Tacitus, who lived during C.E 90, said, ‘ Many assert that the Hebrew are a Race of Ethiopian Origin' . This statement showed that the Hebrews were compared to a dark skin Ethiopians, who were Ham's descendants. Historian and scholar J.A Rogers commented, For the Romans to have considered them(Hebrew) as Ethiopians is a clear indication of their color, because the Ethiopians are a known black People'. Tacitus also said that the Hebrew were Egyptians, who left Egypt during a disease outbreak. The testimony of the ancients, the scriptures, & many Egyptologists, along with archaeology confirms that the Egyptians during biblical times were a "BLACK" PEOPLE. How are the Egyptian and Hebrew Black People? The bible on multiple occasions describes the ancient Hebrews as looking like the Egyptians in physical appearance. In Genesis chapter 50 verses 7-11, scripture will describes ALL the Hebrews as looking like the ancient Egyptians. After Jacob (who's name was changed to Iseri(e)– Israel) died in the land of Egypt, all the Hebrews and Egyptians went down to the land of Canaan to bury him (He asked his son to bury him in the land of Canaan with his forefathers (Genesis 49:29-30).Verses 7-8; states that all the elders of Pharaoh's house and all the elders of the land of Egypt along with all the Hebrews (except for their small children) went down. VERSE 9 says, "It was a very great company." VERSE 11 says, that the Canaanite saw the funeral procession and said "THIS IS A GRIEVOUS MOURNING TO THE EGYPTIANS". But, remember this was a mixed multitude of Hebrews and Egyptians going to bury a HEBREW, and the Canaanite identified them both as Egyptians. WHY? It is because, the Canaanite saw a great company of dark skinned people who all look like native (black) Egyptians. If the Hebrews were a white skinned people, as we have been led to believe. The Canaanite who were familiar with both the Hebrews and Egyptians would have acknowledged them both by saying, "THIS IS A GRIEVOUS MOURNING TO THE EGYPTIANS AND HEBREWS." Without doubt white Hebrews would have stuck out like a sore thump among the black Egyptians. The Canaanites never Identified the Hebrews separately from the Egyptians. Since it was a Hebrew being buried you know the Israelites were the ones who were mourning the greatest. The Canaanites seen this and though those Israelites in mourning were Egyptians.The scripture says that the Canaanite named the place where they saw this great mourning for a HEBREW Abel Mizraim which means the meadow of Egypt/Mizraim or Mourning of the Egyptians. In Conclusion; During the World War II in 1939–1945, the so called Jews who were in the prison camp didn't turn Turned Black as Coal as the ancient Hebrew did. This doesn't mean some of the Europeans arent Hebrew descendants which was due to intermarriages but the ancient Hebrew had Colour as light skin tone,brownish to the darkest hue. Below Biblical passages established this fact: 1. Job 30:30 (KJV) My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat. 2. Lamentations 5:10 King James Version (KJV) Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine. 3. Leviticus 13:36-37 (KJV) verse 36 says,‘ the priest is to examine them, and if he finds that the sore has spread in the skin, he does not need to look for yellow hair; they are unclean. Verse 37 If, however, the sore is unchanged so far as the priest can see, and if black hair has grown in it, the affected person is healed. They are clean, and the priest shall pronounce them clean. 4. Lamentations 4:8-10 (KJV) Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick. Lastly, for the inquisitives,who windup sentiments because some of saw and resaerched works that claimed Yorubas as being linked to Middle East,should read out the biblical record that had passed through great Empires,which stated the color of the ancient Hebrews. Empire such as the following had record: 1. Kemet, the original name of Pharaoh's kingdom-Empire, which was changed to Egypt by the Greek. The name 'Egypt' comes from the Greek's Aegyptos, which was the Greek pronunciation of the Egyptian name ' Hwt-Ka-Ptah ' (which means "House of the Spirit of Ptah ", who was a very early god of the Ancient Egyptians 2. Assyrian Era 3. Babylonian Era 4. Persian Era 5. Greek Era 6. Roman Era 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 9:50am On Aug 28, 2018 |
absoluteSuccess:Good to know that you recognised that having a better half is important in every man's life. I admire your gut and the respect you shower on your madam. Albeit, Orísà jé n pèe mèjí obínrín o jé but a good wife is the one that sustains her home with her hard work, obedient to her husband and almighty God. Indeed peace reside with those who are the chosen ones. And to your question on my part, I am. Àmó o àtí kí ojè sí ba'oloshá lówó o wà kú bàbà éní tí nbó. Cheers |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 9:10pm On Aug 27, 2018*. Modified: 9:57pm On Aug 27, 2018 |
absoluteSuccess:I actually did a slight verification of the advent of the western world oriki(genealogy).The western world surpased yorubas method which is basically on oral . While the missing aspect in the Oral Yoruba's oriki is the possibility of the ‘gap' in between the panegyric of the Yoruba ancestors which actually made it difficult to be able to pegged the ancestors of yoruba's history that predate the civil wars that took place in the time of Olofin Adimula and Obatal a,which a renowned researcher, Sussan Blier muddled up with the time of Oranmiyan and Obalufon Alayemore which the date is uncertain because there is no written record of it,and the hieroglyphic of Oranmiyan has not been able to be uncoded. In fact, nisai claimed there more than four of such hieroglyphs. A lot really need be done becuase Europeans researchers identify the class of genealogy as , oral tradition; the second, that in which certain pedigrees were committed to writing. The third stage comprises the period from approximately 1500 in western Europe and later in the English-speaking world, during which the whole basis of genealogy widened to such an extent that it is now possible for the majority of people in western Europe to trace their ancestry.Unfortunately Oral tradition and biblical sources. In the early days of civilization, before written records were made, oral traditions were necessarily important but in modern times,there are a lot that make genealogy more robust ,especially with the scientific angle. Without the art of writing, reliance must be placed on memory. And this placed reliance on memory is the reason for distortion and foul play many times. I sincerely hope a lot will be done to understating the meaning of the orikis and the interpretation because I have seen so many words in many orikis even IFA corpus that its descriptive meaning is lost to the whirlwind. Cheers |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 8:47pm On Aug 27, 2018 |
absoluteSuccess:Quite informative. |
| Culture › Re: Inspection & Examination Of Yoruba And Its Footprints In Ancient Times. by Olu317(m): 8:32pm On Aug 27, 2018 |
MetaPhysical:I have seen it and will study it patiently. Respect bro. |
| Culture › Re: Yorubas Are Moors by Olu317(m): 8:08pm On Aug 27, 2018 |
Obalufon:Where exactly did white men called Yoruba as monkey? Hmmm,this is indeed more serious than I had thought. |
| Culture › Re: Names Of Various Animals In Yoruba Language by Olu317(m): 6:57am On Aug 27, 2018 |
godfatherx:Oh k.Thanks. I was just wondering if there is more to the name ‘Lokele' or ‘Lokili' before it was called Àjà apart from your information Anyway, thanks again.I appreciate. |
| Culture › Re: Yorubas Are Moors by Olu317(m): 9:59pm On Aug 26, 2018 |
Obalufon:What about the founder of ford? was his father not white too? Bro, there things beyond all of us .The man was born of a white father and black parents.Mind you, the white have never disowned Bob Marley because till the end of time, the same white bring up idea of selling Bob Marley's to their world. In fact, Bob Marley descendants are ripping this their legendary Father. India hemp, has been legalised by some States in America and Canada too. Sir, it is not about loving us because he who show love ,will definitely be loved. There are 1000+1 Nigerians that are married to white ladies and some white even came to prostate to their Yoruba Inlaw . I didnt shy away that some Nigerians do it for resident papers while some do it genuinely, especially the well educated ones. So ,reality is before us all and not to be filled with hate . Let me ask you, how did Ajoke onibread whose real name is Jumoke Orisaguna became a worldwide model and famous after TY Bello and group took her photoshot ? |
| Culture › Re: Yorubas Are Moors by Olu317(m): 9:18pm On Aug 26, 2018*. Modified: 9:38pm On Aug 26, 2018 |
Obalufon:You are quite funny with your reference because great numbers of white men hated the Color community in the United States as you have mentioned doesn't mean other white didn't support Black community. I am sure you know about the south and North in America's history. Do you know the owner of Ford had a color ancestry? The C.R. Patterson & Sons Company was a carriage building firm , and the first African American-owned automobile manufacturer. The company was founded by Charles Richard Patterson, who was born into slavery in April 1833 on a plantation in Virginia. His parents were Nancy and Charles Patterson. Do you know Martin Luther Jnr had great white supporters, that some work without being paid? Here is Stanley David Levison who was born in New York City on May 2, 1912, to a Jewish family.He had initially been introduced to King by Bayard Rustin, a Quaker , in New York City in 1956. Though King had offered to pay Levison in exchange for his help, Levison refused on every occasion, as he believed "the liberation struggle is the most positive and rewarding area of work anyone could experience." What about Bob Marley's father? Norval Sinclair Marley (1885–1957) was a Jamaican Marine famous for being the father of the reggae musician Bob Marley. Born in Jamaica to Albert Thomas Marley, who was from Sussex in England, and Ellen Broomfield, a Syrian Jewish Jamaican. He traveled to England where he joined the British Army in August 1916 at Liverpool, enlisting in the Labour Corps (Home Service); he had previously been employed as a Ferro-Concreter in Cuba. Marley’s mother Cedella Malcolm (later Cedella Booker) began her romance with Captain Marley, a colonial supervisor, when he was sixty years old and she was merely seventeen.Norval Marley’s family was made up of white Jamaicans from the parish of Clarendon. He was relocated for work purposes to St. Ann where Cedella had grown up and resided.She gave birth to their son , Robert Nesta (Bob) Marley on 6 February 1945. No other children arose from this relationship. The couple split after a short time. Bob Marley, at his own admission, never really came to know his father.Bob was about ten years old when Norval Marley died of a heart attack in 1957. How on earth can you be so sure that sex was the reason for white ladies having affair with Color men? ...I wish you know a lot about human psyche to understand this what love can do to the Heart of great men.The great men that I have mentioned made difference in millions of lives with their impeccable achievement in human history. How do you want to be remembered Sir? As I have said,I don't hate white nor anyone because we all are humans. So my school of thought won't change likewise those in my fold, even at the slightest provocation from anyone. Cheers |
| Culture › Re: Yorubas Are Moors by Olu317(m): 3:22pm On Aug 26, 2018 |
Obalufon:My dear brother, I can see where you are coming from but I still insist that betrayal or feeling of supremacy isn't one sided but universal. As you know, the same views is always replicable even in Nigeria or the African world at large. On love aspect, I guess you mean the US, but your information isn't correct because statistically mulattos are basically mixed Race of Color and White ancestry. The educated Color America preferred marrying white ladies, do you also call that beastly too? What about Latin America where Yoruba descendants survived as Mulattos and color Race. Like I had said,there is no way,one can loose foresight of evil minded people but your % is far too weird. Èyìnkúlè l'otá wá ìnúlè ní àshèní n gbè (The evil ones that does harm in one's household is greater than the enemies in the public. All I can say,is that let us make friendship across the borders,especially amongst those that value humanity. |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 2:36pm On Aug 26, 2018*. Modified: 5:52pm On Sep 28, 2018 |
Poorly studied aren't so scarce to know but always regurgitating over frivilous issue ,when the Western scholars are already reconstructing the ancient time by deciphering hieroglyphs , pictographs ,cuneiform,etc of to connect to the past,which was the basis for ancient form of documenting information and writingPity can't pity self because pity don't understand what pity stands to benefit when pitied... Gravement drôle 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Culture › Re: Yorubas Are Moors by Olu317(m): 6:43am On Aug 26, 2018*. Modified: 8:35am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Obalufon:Bro, I don't shy away from reality about human hatred toward humanity. And there is no part of my argument that some white supremacists don't play the hate card but does this mean,all white do such? In as much that Knowledge and invention rules in the world we live today as it was in the past,then this is a passing phase . If German who were a mixed Assyrians group could kill 6000,000 or so Jewish group,then it is more than white hating Africans. Read the Mystery of Ages (1985), "The Assyrians settled in central Europe, and the Germans, undoubtedly, are, in part, the descendents of the ancient Assyrians." (p. 183). In this, Armstrong draws upon the opinions of Herman L. Hoeh, published in his 1963 Compendium of World History to know more about German ancestry. If I ask you if you had knowledge of the number of people that The Color Pharaohs of Kemet-Ethiopians-Thebes-(The land of Ammon-Amun) killed when Egypt ruled the world? Yet,when Roman-Greek subdued Egypt, their history weren't wiped out but today ,Egypt history is almost wiped out if not Europeans.... The same way Nigeria is trying to wipe out history from different group in present day Nigeria's foundational schools. Until you and many others realise that the greatest enemy of the color people arent the white per say but the Persian that converted to Islam and used the sentiment of religion and fought even the so called white for a thousand of year . They still do today so much that they erased the history of Africans when Islam took control of Egypt after the Roman-Greek group were chased away,except few ones . The Roman-Greek group in Africa gave ; Egypt 's river and connectiont to valley,( both lower Nile and Upper Nile) the name known as ‘NILE', which is etymologically of Greek origin and not Kemet or Ethiopians. The word " Nile "comes from Greek Neilos (ὁ Νεῖλος). Neilos came from the word "river valley". In the ancient Egyptian language, the Nile is called Ḥ'pī or iteru, meaning "great river", represented by the hieroglyphs shown above (literally itrw, and 'waters' determinative). Despite this, All powerful Kingdoms killed million of people but didn't erase tthe subdued history. I am sure you know the history of Turkey was of christian backgroup after the were converted through preaching but both Turkey and Spain lost to Islam dominance because Islam didn't allow the non believers to stay,which brought the revolt that made the advanced moors became expelled from the European Region. I had to dig deep as this to show you that no one or group is monotonous over dominance and hatred but Africa people who held the power in Egypt were subdued and all groups in her dispersed because of religious conflict. The Color people who migrated to Europe in the ancient still have their historical link to them despite different regions. Have you for once see Persian of mixed that's known as Arab today ever wrote about their Color people connection? I bet it is ‘Between the devil and the deep blue sea' . And in between, Color people married the white 99% times than Arabs of today. I guess the truth is within you. There is no iota of doubt that I know a lot of people want to be supremacist in life even on NL,especially some Yorubas that won't tolerate others because of superior opinion from others which is hinged on two reason: Religious belief and Pseudo Advanced Knowledge. Where have these people left their IFA orientation? A religion that strongly recognise patience,endurance, love,perseverance etc that is found in the Bible, so also found in the Quran. Today, the western world are trying so hard to dig into the past but can't do it as a lone group in reshaping history from THE WORLD'S MOTHER LAND,through hieroglyphs pictographs etc,which forms the advanced knowledge ,that is different from today's but the slumbering Africans,who are the selected few choose hatred filled hearts to proof their annoyance. Have also not seen different videos that went viral where some color Africans were killed and easten in part of Asia? Anyway, until the right group in Africa can stand up to form alliance with other group situated in the three corners of the world, then our fear and hatred will disappear. Lastly, I know what ‘hate' means but does not take hold in me because I control my emotional world and when heavily challenged,I look up to the God of my ancestors for the solution. Cheers. Cheers 1 Like |
| Culture › Re: Yorubas Are Moors by Olu317(m): 11:34pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Sinistami:God forbid? This is a tradition of an ethnic group when they get married, so that there won't be a cheating partner through this solemnization of the couple |
| Culture › Re: Yorubas Are Moors by Olu317(m): 11:31pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
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| Culture › Re: Yorubas Are Moors by Olu317(m): 10:51pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Obalufon,can this people be linked to Yoruba ethnicity? My point is that, there different people that made up Africa. So, kindly change your perspective about the world as solely in Africa. Eledumare dont nor didn't make mistake but human being did and still do .
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| Culture › Re: Yorubas Are Moors by Olu317(m): 10:28pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Obalufon:I beg to disagree with you sir.There is no where Africa is or was in a hatred war. Kindly stop such notion about the way you see Africa. In fact, no one called Africa a continent until the Europeans gave Africa the name. So, I don't believe in what you think because I dont hate. Trust me, I am exactly the way I type info online. Secondly, anyone who look down on himself or herself does so because of complex issue and I guess you don't do so. If you are willing to know,no one see you as inferior except the ones that sees you as a threat to them.Have you not read how Yoruba genes is found in many part of the world? I do hope you know Thirdly, I hope you know Africa is a complex Continent because many kind of ethnicity lives in it. And I see myself as a human before anyone and proud of my ancestors heritage whom the world attached link to their ancestry. Fourthly, if you think,it is self hatred,why did the Israel considered themselves as linked to colour people,despite the fact,that there is doubt about the Ethiopia Jews,that live in Israel today? Well, I used Israel as a case study because she is the only Race that is said to be associated with many ancestors as Yoruba's. This group history is one of the most documented in human history. Fifthly, I am not one of those that easily fall prey to ideology without concrete evidence and until I am convinced enough with all possible methodology to proof this hatred, of self exist ,except envy from poor etthnicities against others in Africa,which is universal. On a last note, I will post an ethnic group in Africa, and tell me if this is a group that had any link with Yoruba. The point here is that civilization had been with Yorubas for uncountable centuries . And this is basis for Yoruba's greatness . Regard |
| Culture › Re: Yorubas Are Moors by Olu317(m): 5:38pm On Aug 25, 2018*. Modified: 5:59pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Moorish:If you want to learn Middle East language, kindly dont learn the modern Hebrew because it was developed from Roman and Greek after the conquest of Juda but the ancient Hebrew will do the magic . And this will make you say wow at the possibility of so many thingsHebrew language as a mother tongue was revived in the late 19th century and early 20th century. Modern Hebrew used Biblical Hebrew morphemes , Mishnaic spelling, and Sephardic pronunciation. Many idioms and calques were made from Yiddish . Its acceptance by the early Jewish immigrants to Ottoman Palestine was primarily due to support from the organisations of Edmond James de Rothschild in the 1880s and the official status it received in the 1922 constitution of the British Mandate for Palestine . Jews from Arab lands introduced many loanwords from Arabic (e.g. na'ana , zaatar , mishmish, kusbara , ḥilba , lubiya , hummus , gezer , rayḥan, etc.). The words gerev (sing.) / garbayim (pl.) are now applied to "socks," a diminutive of the Arabic ğuwārib ("socks"  .Ben-Yehuda codified and planned Modern Hebrew using 8,000 words from the Bible and 20,000 words from rabbinical commentaries,which developed through Roman language and Greek's. And over 60% of Arabs have a good understanding of Hebrew. I feel challenged seeing the possibility the role of Yoruba ancestors to have played in shaping middle East history via Spiritual and scientific development.This is the reason the Israel community in Middle East or the world in general are searching for the lost tribe of Israel and cannot deny their link to Black Africans.. |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 5:15pm On Aug 25, 2018*. Modified: 3:54pm On Sep 28, 2018 |
0balufonlll:So,the ‘slight ', I used brought all this your opinion? ...Oh k oo.Hold steadfast to your views with non beyond Odua and Obatala's lifetime in cosmopolitan ILEIFE during their time.Why ask for books to be cited by me? I don't think I have such time anymore because you are basically not widely read. Trust me ,you aren't. But know it ,that YOU HAVE NO ANSWER TO ANY of the questions on Obatala's ancestors or Odua's. This should be your concern. So, you don't know that Ilorin was a cosmopolitan too? . It is really disheartening reading this from the professor of yoruba history himself ,about palace servants that usurped Afonja authority... Get book on Ilorin to feed your eyes . In the meantime, Ilorin community became culturally multifarious following the influx of a multiplicity of other cultural and sub-cultural groups so much that by the time civil strife occurred between Afonja and Shehu Alimi`s Jama`a about 1807 or thereabout, the combined population of the Jama`a in Gambari, Fulani and Okesuna areas who were mainly non-Yorubas had greatly exceeded that of the Kakanfo`s compatriots who were confined to Idi-ape and its environs, including Dada.It is incontrovertible, for instance, that at the time of Shehu alimi`s arrival in Ilorin, the area now called Alanamu and Ajikobi wards were sparsely inhabited. The areas were opened up later for settlement by some Yoruba members of the retinue which accompanied Shehu Alimi to Ilorin under the leadership of Usman and Se`eni who afterwards became Balogun Ajikobi and Balogun Alanamu respectively. It was a massive influx of people of assorted cultural background, after Islamic governance had been firmly established, that conditioned the demographic size, composition and texture of Ilorin. With the resultant ethnic and cultural heterogeneity, Islam became the common denominator and the only unifying factor. It facilitated inter-mingling, socialization and integration among the various peoples. Consequently, a unique Islamic culture, into which the diverse cultures melted, emerged. However, the infectious Yoruba language became the lingua franca. The consequent submergence of all other languages into Yoruba gives an illusory impression of monolithic culture by obscuring the cultural pluralism inherent in the Emirate, particularly in Ilorin, where a substantial proportion of the indigenous population is anthropologically non-Yoruba. For example, the following non-Yoruba families randomly sampled in the seemingly Yoruba-dominated “Oke Imole” no longer bear their original non-Yoruba identities. This illustrates the depth of cultural assimilation that has occurred and gives a deceptive impression of the ethno-cultural complexity of Ilorin. The core families in Agbaji namely; Ile Saura, Ile Aburo, Ile Baba Sa`are, Ile Agoro and Ile Imam Agbaji were originally Sudanese Arabs from a town called Ar-Baji on the Blue Nile. So also were the ancestral parents of the people of Ile Ara-Agbaji at Masingba, Oke Imole. Ile Hejebu, Ile Singini, Ile Oloko, Ile Oniko, Ile Ada-Ara and Ile Majo are extensions of the core families in Agbaji. Members of Ile Ibrahim Bature at Oke-Apomu are Arabs by origin. They migrated to Ilorin from Agades from Niger Republic. The Ojibara family in the same area is of Fulani descent. They initially sojourned in Borno before they migrated to Ilorin finally. Deal with the truth! Odua was a migrant as well as many others. Cheers |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 10:10am On Aug 25, 2018*. Modified: 10:36am On Aug 25, 2018 |
0balufonlll: I know about this criticism and slight flaws in comparison of certain error about Olumide's researched work. And as usual, it can't be taken away from his claimed Origin of Yoruba as Egyptians because, some Yoruba had knowledge of this. Funny enough Yoruba are groups of people of different ancestry that became unified. This is the bitter truth and Odua squad are the majority , which many shy away from this truth.Do you even think the Arabic lexicon found in Yoruba land were as a result of Islam? ! You really need to get grasp of books and visit places to see the bitter truth,staring at you. Have you forgotten Arabs are part of Yoruba too? Kindly go to Ilorin,Kuwo etc. Like I had said, it is greater than you or I. What is required of you, is to contribute your quota via research. Using Linguistic as a deterrent to Dr. Olumide's researched work showed exactly where Africans lacked the pedigree to understanding the world at large. How many among the western researchers were linguists in 1800 century that begun to group African languages indescriminately ? Intead of more devotion by other researchers to do more on this work for criticism and more finding,on the possibilities of migrants status of many yorubas through the eyes of Olumide's work in the 1940s that the man saw what, not many of his contemporaries saw except the Western Researchers. Many western researchers said these, even , Dierk Lange said this in his book in recent past . What a people ! in Yoruba land.Funny enough there is no account to showed any of the so called great men of the cosmopolitan ILEIFE in the ancient time had known ancestors and how they were born . Perhaps you know them? Kindly share and don't say it is classified as Àwo... :There are inconsequential perspective that keep trying to show as a support for your defense. Even Sussan Blier said my own ancestors worshipped ‘sungod'.Is this not enough for you to be provoked in your spirit? I guess you don't understand and can't. Bro, kindly go into research work to write from your own belief if you can.On a final note,whatever I chose to work on is solely divine because you arent contending with me or I against you. Trust me, it is on a futile mission. This is my world...... Cheers |
| Culture › Re: Igbo And Yoruba Share The Same Ancestors by Olu317(m): 9:23am On Aug 25, 2018 |
igbodefender:If you say so but Olukumi didnt migrate from ILEIFE directly but Akure-Owo axis. You can verify their documented history from their people or from their royal court. Perhaps you know the meaning of Olúkúlúkú in Yoruba land? 1 Like |
| Culture › Re: Yorubas Are Moors by Olu317(m): 7:51am On Aug 25, 2018 |
Moorish:Yes Sir, it is the chaldean's ur,that had been destroyed. To know all these things ,one need to read these people's history and comparing the semblance in names of inhabited places by Yoruba ancestors in the past as well as today's, while the oral history passed through generation to generation by on Yoruba's account of destruction of their ancient city called ‘Orù'. Trust me, a well studied man in human history or any chosen field, isnt knowledgeable but the ability to question both rational and irrational angle of the world we live . While critics will always look for flaws and waste their time instead of them to improve on themselves. You see,one of the greatest mistake that always lead to backwardness is inability to discourage hatred toward people ,color or Race, with see as enemies. Until a lot of different people in Africa continent realise this, self development will always be a scarce commodity in this great Continent,which has 90%+ of world Resources in her. This world is held in the hands of those who are fearless and have zeal to dare because the Earth has its FORCE and SECRETS. Discovery is what give the special ones advantage over others, which is the reason the Western world surpassed the many kingdoms of ancient times that only live on past glory. On my own case of being knowledgeable, I am not better than you or anyone. Cheers 1 Like |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 7:55pm On Aug 24, 2018*. Modified: 8:20pm On Aug 24, 2018 |
absoluteSuccess:Wisdom is rarely scarce but to whom is given, they are called divine. I respect you as an Obalufon descendant because you are chosen amongst the godmen. On what you inferred, do I have knowledge on but I chose to expose the educated illiterate who have not done anything but self opinion to justify their cases. A shame on them because all lettered people who stumbled on this,will definitely know who is informing on the the reality and truth via evidence. Whoever quote me amongst them,I'll not reply anymore because they are knowledged people but dehydrated .Seriously, I don't have problem with criticism but do it with radiocarbon evidence, researched refetenced eork or archaeological evidence to disprove me opinion. The well studious hearts aren't too scarce to know while foolish people litters everywhere,which make them fizzle out easily. When I read your statement on your meeting with a senior writer on your post about your book,then I saw the depth and how far you have gone to do the right thing on showcasing the wealth of Yorubas as a great people because publication of book isn't easy as it seems.Good work bro,kudos. Bro,there is something I desire to draw your attention toward, which is on archeological and hieroglyphs finding which isn't anybody's fault but Yorubas because they discouraged the western researchers with their inconsistencies on oral information which made many western historians withdrew their funding. Trust me ,wrong people wrote many things and contradicted themselves. Today, few people thought Olumide Lucas was wrong because of criticism by less than 10s out 100s scholars. Funny enough, he was right about the evidence of ancient Egyptian lexicon present in Yoruba's, which was buttressed by an African writer from francophone nation known as Philade Leo and discovery by ‘ Abarim publication' etc. I had to mention this because of these students who want to learn from me by force and fire Let me share a Roman word that is found in Yoruba land through migration from Egypt. Roman : Sangi Meaning: blood Yoruba: shéjé Meaning: bleeding( blood) Itsekiri-Yoruba : Sangi Meaning: blood Dead heads won't understand because few ones are dead heads and in minority. On a final note, I will continue to post the useful information for whoever cares to see the non aboriginal status of Odua squad as I have proven with scholarly reference and 21st century evidence Respect to you bro Cheers 1 Like |
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