Culture › Re: The Solomonic Dynasty by Olu317(m): 6:18am On Nov 18, 2017 |
Hati13: The Solomonic dynasty
This dynasty also know as the House of Solomon, ruled Ethiopia from 1270 till 1974 AD with few interruptions and with some emperors being symbolic in between.
Ethiopian tradition says that in the 10th century BC, Queen of Sheba went to Israel to meet King Solomon and whilst there, she was pregnant by him. She then returned to Ethiopia and the child was born and was name "Menelik I". After some years, Menelik I went to Israel to meet his father and spent some years with him. He then stole the Ark of the Covenant and took it with him to Ethiopia in his return. He then became ruler of Ethiopia when his mother Queen of Sheba died and his descendants ruled Ethiopia until the Axumite empire was laid to waste in 10th century AD.
This dynasty was later restored in the 13th century AD by Yakuno Amlak after he deposed the ruler of the Zagwe dynasty.
In reality, this dynasty was a mythical creation for political and religious purposes.
List of Ethiopian emperors after the restoration of the so called Solomonic dynasty
1. Yakuno Amlak 2. Yagbe'e Seyon 3. Senfa Ared IV 4. Hezba Asgad 5. Qedma Asgad 6. Jin Asgad 7. Saba Asgad 8. Wedem Arda 9. Amda Seyon I 10. Newaya Krestos 11. Newaya Maryam 12. Dawit I 13. Tewodros I 14. Yeshaq I 15. Andreyas 16. Takla Maryam 17. Sarwe Iyasus 18. Amda Iyasus 19. Zara Yaqob 20. Baeda Maryam I 21. Eskender 22. Amda Seyon II 23. Na'od 24. Dawit II 25. Gelawdewos 26. Menas 27. Sarsa Dengel 28. Yaqob 29. Za Dengel 30. Susenyos I 31. Fasilides 32. Yohannes I 33. Iyasu I (Iyasus the Great) - Yeshaq Iyasu ruled for some months in between. 34. Tekle Haymanot I (Tekle Haymanot the Cursed) 35. Tewoflos 36. Yostos 37. Dawit III (Dawit the Singer) 38. Bakaffa 39. Iyasu II - Hezqeyas ruled for a year in between. 40. Iyaso 41. Yohannes II 42. Tekle Haymanot II 43. Susenyos II 44. Salomon II 45. Tekle Giyorgis I 46. Iyasu III 47. Hezqeyas 48. Baeda Maryam II 49. Salomon 50. Yonas 51. Egwala Seyon 52. Iyoas II 53. Gigar 54. Iyasu IV 55. Gebre Krestos 56. Shale Dengel 57. Yohannes III 58. Tekle Giyorgis II 59. Yohannes IV 60. Menelik II 61. Iyasu V (Lij Iyasu) 62. Zewditu 63. Haile Selassie
• Rulers not part of Solomonic dynasty are exempted from the above emperor list.
For more, check:- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomonic_dynasty https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Emperors_of_Ethiopia Do these listed names ancestors and descendants have any rituals that involves Heifer or Ram? |
Culture › Re: Dhu Nuwas, The Hebrew King Of Yemen, Later The First Emperor Of West Africa. by Olu317(m): 7:43pm On Nov 17, 2017 |
Mulakintanwa: They never claim they are from cush, the only available story on them is there appearance in Ethiopia around 1200AD, from where no one knows. You are the one adding cush to it.
Odede was to go back with a team in vegeance mission but was sent back, so the yoruba story says and the camp was at the present day igala land and their war cry was galla. They left gallant land towards the end of 1200AD and appeared in Ethiopia exactly early 1200AD. They were first called gallant people later they demanded to be called oromiya. In west Africa oromiya led to galla, in Ethiopia gallant led to oromiya.
Yorubas 'ronu' was said for a purpose, showing their head and mind is sleeping off some important things probably due to the oppression of the OYO empire which rage for hundreds of years. There are so many stories told about these Odu'a descendants but not all are truly correct which due to the secrecy of ILE IFE and her ways of worship of God. However, Oromo of Ethiopia are not the same people as been called Yoruba today . There are different groups that fused together as Yoruba but the Hebrew descendants are the majority . This view may seem untrue to those who knows not much about the present day Yoruba but this is true because certain ways of ancestral worshipping of God still exist till today and forever. Each family in Yoruba land is associated with one animal or the other. |
Culture › Re: Dhu Nuwas, The Hebrew King Of Yemen, Later The First Emperor Of West Africa. by Olu317(m): 7:12pm On Nov 17, 2017*. Modified: 7:28pm On Nov 17, 2017 |
Mulakintanwa: Yes you were also told he was killed by Islamic religious uprising right, while Mohammed the prophet was yet to be born. The prophet was never even born around 6AD. How then did Islam which never start kill your own fabricated Adim-ula of 3BC. Incorrigible lies and super imposition of lies on the truth is what we have carrying all around as history.
Here is your true story.
Do you know Halelu-- and alale- are actually the same words. No true story said, Father of Adimla was killed by Islamic uprising but was killed during one uprising in that part that they once lived . In fact, that part of the Yoruba history,precisely on Adimla took place before Christ existence. And no king was killed during that time in Ur/Arabia because islam hasn't existed. The only king that was killed during uprising was Josia ,king of Judah. Then, many people have told many lies though but some of us have done some finding to have seen the reality as what Adimla's worship of God was like. In Eastern part of Yoruba, the proper worship word as been used by Odu'a ancestors were originally called Umole or Imole and still sustained to a large extent today. At a higher level, it is referred as Oosa and today , Oosa is used more often. What is the correlation between Halele and Alale(Yoruba)? |
Culture › Re: Nigerian Woman Kneels Down For Ooni Of Ife In America During Interaction (Photo) by Olu317(m): 12:46pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
pweshboi: I believe a king in south west does all the religions in his kingdom... he doesn't have a religion persay if I must say Ooni has a religion. Accommodating Christianity and Islam doesn't change anything as it regard his ancestors ways of worship. Ooni worship almighty God through Irun-Imole. |
Culture › Re: This Dictionary Proof Yoruba Are Speaking Original Hebrew Language Of The Torah. by Olu317(m): 9:31pm On Nov 14, 2017*. Modified: 9:46pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
Wisdom and enlightenment will increase in the tail end of the world. Irrespective of different opinions of people on Yoruba history , research on archeology,ethnography,linguistic etc to really ascertain the formation of Yoruba people had been done and more evidence will see the light of the day. Good effort from you in taking time to come this way on similarity of Yoruba with ancient Hebrews. |
Culture › Re: Dhu Nuwas, The Hebrew King Of Yemen, Later The First Emperor Of West Africa. by Olu317(m): 6:56pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
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Culture › Re: Dhu Nuwas, The Hebrew King Of Yemen, Later The First Emperor Of West Africa. by Olu317(m): 7:19am On Nov 14, 2017 |
@OP, you need not over drag this issue to Hebrew's history if you don't have concrete information because in Adimla history, he was a son to a king that was killed in a war. No known history was established in Yemen, despite the few presence of Hebrews in around 3BC —4BC henceforth. If you are truly looking for Adimla's, then you do more research on reason his ancestors uses ram as sacrifice. Also, why does names similar to ancient Egypt and environs exist in Yoruba ? Now, let me give you a clue....Ur (Orun/Oru—Yoruba ),Haran(Aran—Yoruba ), Ra Hill (Oke Ora—Yoruba), exist in a land etc?, Lastly, Yoruba lived in Egypt. at one time or the other. |
Culture › Re: Dhu Nuwas, The Hebrew King Of Yemen, Later The First Emperor Of West Africa. by Olu317(m): 6:55am On Nov 14, 2017 |
What is the connection of Adimla and these other groups? He never lived in any Yemen and many of these are not part of ancestor's history. |
Culture › Re: Abram Is Also The Person Called Orunmila. by Olu317(m): 12:54pm On Nov 13, 2017 |
Mulakintanwa: https://houseofmygod..com.ng/2017/11/terah-gr.html
TERAH: GR. THARA AND OBA-THALA IS ONE AND SAME PERSON, AND THE FATHER OF ABI-ORUNMILA (ABRAM)
HARAN is the Orun mentioned in the yoruba story of creation. Due to loss in touch with the proper use and ancient meaning of the various words involved in this biblical history.
Original: הרן Hebrew dictionary Transliteration: hârân Phonetic: haw-rawn' (which is örun in Yorba languge) BDB Definition: Haran = " mountaineer"
youngest son of Terah, brother of Abraham, father of Lot, Milcah, and Iscah; born and died in Ur of the Chaldees
name of the place to which Abraham migrated from Ur of the Chaldees and where the descendants of his brother Nahor established themselves; probably located in Mesopotamia
Strong's Definition: Perhaps from H2022; mountaineer ; Haran, the name of two men: - Haran.
H2022 Hebrew dictionary Original: הר Transliteration: har Phonetic: har (also hörun) BDB Definition: hill, mountain, hill country, mount Origin: a shortened form of H2042 TWOT entry: 517a Part(s) of speech: Noun Masculine Strong's Definition: A shortened form of H2042; a mountain or range of hills (sometimes used figuratively): - hill (country), mount (-ain), X promotion.
Ur of chaldea is also called orun but of the sun in yoruba. According to his name Oba_Thara meaning delay, left "örun" (sun) of chaldea but delayed at Haran which is another "örun" (of the high places/heaven) where he died.
The Abram or Abi_orun-Milla then continue the journey to the land of promise where he gained the encounter name of abi_iru-homi (iru: likes, homi: water in multitudes), that open up is ability to give birth.
He gave birth to ishmael whose divine encounter name is yagbonireewun, Yisake (isaac), LaMorin (zamrin), shoo'-akh meaning wealth, etc.
Ephah and ifa in yoruba is a grandchild of Abi_orun-mila.
Original: זמרן Hebrew dictionary Transliteration: zimrân (LaMorin in Yoruba). Phonetic: zim-rawn' BDB Definition: Zimran = " musician" (Orin is music in yoruba)
Thara's name mean delay.
H8646 Hebrew dictionary Original: תּרח Transliteration: terach special note (terah: Gr. Thara) Phonetic: teh'-rakh (ti-araka- useless activity in yoruba language) BDB Definition: Tarah = " delay" the father of Abraham (noun proper masculine) a station of Israel in the wilderness (noun proper locative) Origin: of uncertain derivation TWOT entry: None Part(s) of speech: Strong's Definition: Of uncertain derivation; Terach, the father of Abraham; also a place in the Desert: - Tarah, Terah.
terah: Gr. Thara. The same God of heaven and earth has chosen Jesus Christ and sacrifice him. Preparing by Him Christ eternal Spirit to bear His utmost love and restoration plan for mankind, especially the children of his friend abi_orun-mila become Abi_iru-homi.
ABRAHAM IS ORUNMILA. Abram: Abi -rawm Abi : To father, Fathered, in Yoruba it is also called ABI.eg in Abi-ola.
Aw-raw- : aw-rawn high place, hill top, heavenly places Yoruba call this ORUN. For more
https://houseofmygod..com.ng/2017/11/terah-gr.html Very insightful. Ur can also be said to be a place Yoruba refer as “Oru" -Ooyelagbo. Either it true or not, time and research will expose the truth to the world . Even words like Oke Ora look very suspicious. In Egypt, the was a place called Land of Ra. This has to do with a place where Egyptians worshiped Ram and one of their god. And in this place, Many other groups lived in that land, including children of Israel. The most interesting is Egyptians don't use Ram as sacrifice unlike Yorubas that uses Ram as sacrifice and other animals . Many names in Yoruba land attached to many settlements looks foreign |
Culture › Re: ROYALTY: Ooni To Address Top Hollywood Acts, Eddie Murphy, Others In US by Olu317(m): 5:52am On Nov 11, 2017 |
Divine king |
Culture › Re: I Want To Learn Itsekiri Language (get In) by Olu317(m): 8:23pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
urahara:

Where did Yoruba's originate from ? ( from your own point of view ) Well,one of the major way is to verify relationship of groups living in a particular environment vis à vis the people identified as Yoruba in present day Nigeria and else where with other non speakers of such language . Having personal curiosity from childhood made me delve into such and so far so good, I have been able to compare few tradition peculiar to Yorubas and others. It is very important to emphasize here that this is an itsekiri thread and wouldn't want to turn it to a full blown Yoruba history because some people who have no deep knowledge of my ancestors traditional knowledge will derail this thread due to their absolute ignorance . However, my ancestors from immemorial call themselves sons of God... And I am a son of God. |
Culture › Re: I Want To Learn Itsekiri Language (get In) by Olu317(m): 6:50pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
urahara: Alaiye , calm dowwnnnnnn jare , u see me follow u dey argue. 
Just as you have provided facts to back up your statements , I have seen that its truly a dialect of Yoruba ( albeit with some urhobo ,Bini and Portuguese influence ).
I was only asking you if u were fluent in itsekiri because I wanted to find out if you and an ilaje person could communicate without hindrance.
And I asked about " old Yoruba " because I have come across it many times online.
Itsekiri is certainly a Yoruba dialect
*****drops mic **** Now, you made your question clearer. The way you pointed out the questions were the reason I got the wrong impression of what you were trying to get as a person. Anyway, no hard feeling. Then, am not from Ilaje but have knowledge of Yoruba history. Cheers |
Culture › Re: I Want To Learn Itsekiri Language (get In) by Olu317(m): 12:09pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
urahara: Hmmmn, are you fluent in itsekiri ?
..........and what in gods name is "old Yoruba " I don't need to be fluent in Itsekiri dialect before I have knowledge on this things. “Old Yoruba", you asked? I have given some information about it and yet you seem to want your personal opinion to override existing facts. Quite amazing as a person you are. The ancient or old Yoruba simply ways of saying things was what I meant. Besides, People were referred to as from their dialectical names in the olden days. Not until 19th century that all adopted the name tag “Yoruba ". However, these groups of people had been called different names at different times but largely same stock of people. But due to migration from one spot to the other, new names begun to emerge to identify each new settlements. |
Culture › Re: I Want To Learn Itsekiri Language (get In) by Olu317(m): 6:13am On Nov 10, 2017 |
Konquest: ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ @Olu317
Your lucid post about older Yoruba words just made things clearer for me
Did you know that the Olukumis of Aniocha North LGA, Delta State who are indigenous to that area after migrating from Bini area during the Ogiso era [according to the king of Ugbodu, HRM Oloza Ayo Isinyemeze], via Esan territory?
Oloza [means Oloja] title.
Olukumis are of Yoruba ancestry from the Akure/Owo axis and the call white [efun]. One of the 5 Olukunmi communities apart from Ugbodu[The hometown of the 1985 U-16 World Cup Champion captain Nduka Ugbade], is Ukwu Nzu[Eko Efun in Olukunmi language] or White Chalk in English.
Acculturation of the Olukunmis came as a result of interactions with Ibo-speaking communities of Delta North or Anioma. Ibo-speaking does not necessarily mean all the people of Delta North are descendants of Eastern Ibo. Igalas, Esans, Bini, Yoruba, Urhobo, Ibo constitute the ethnicities that make up the ANIOMA axis of Delta State. categorically Fún is white if One consider the prefix which is added to it(É) before it is called white chalk. In Yoruba land, Éfun is white chalk as well .And of course Olukumi are Yoruba descendants |
Culture › Re: I Want To Learn Itsekiri Language (get In) by Olu317(m): 6:02am On Nov 10, 2017 |
urahara: Its not a dialect of Yoruba .its a language on its own. Itsekiri language is not a language of its own but a dialect of Yoruba language.
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Culture › Re: I Want To Learn Itsekiri Language (get In) by Olu317(m): 7:44pm On Nov 09, 2017 |
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Culture › Re: I Want To Learn Itsekiri Language (get In) by Olu317(m): 7:39pm On Nov 09, 2017 |
Konquest: ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ Which dialect of Yoruba is that? Meeni/Eeni.
I use WordHippo.com to do the English-Yoruba words/phrases I might not be familiar with. These are older Yoruba words used instead of modern day ones. Dialects of central Yoruba and Eastern Yoruba, when these words are pronounced don't sound 100% like North West Yoruba, despite the fact that they speak same language which is intelligible to all to understand. Take for instance, Ala means white,which is an older word for white in Yoruba. And white can also be funfun, while some Eastern Yoruba dialects pronounce funfun as finfin. Yoruba is complex but not as bad as not knowing the truth about ourselves to large extent. Despite influence from different groups, certain facts can't be taken away, which is oral history despite its flaws, which is normal. Itsekiri language is absolutely one major dialect of Yoruba. |
Politics › Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Olu317(m): 6:53pm On Nov 09, 2017 |
Konquest: ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ @TundeHashim
It will interest you to note that Dr. Olusola Saraki's father [Alhaji Muttahiru Saraki] in early 1963 told Alh. AbdulGaniy Folorunso Abdulrazak an Ilorin indigene, who was the then Nigerian Ambassador to Côte d' Ivoire that he is an Egba man from Abeokuta, but went for Quaranic studies in Agbaji.
I first read this in a copy of The News Magazine and an online version of that story is on Sahara Reporters. Ahj. Muttahiru had 3 wives as of that 1963.
The Sarakis know this history I believe but for for the purpose of politics, Dr. Olusola Saraki had to give the mythological story of being a "Fulani" of Mali ancestry.
It was just subterfuge to be accepted by the Northern Nigeria power brockers!
Wikipedia is NOT a reputable place to get accurate information about issues because it gets edited regularly by propagandists and that is why schools in the Western world do not allow references from Wikipedia from their students.
I remember reading about Alh. DanMusa who married the owner of Bisket Stores saying in a magazine interview in the early 2000s that his father migrated to Ilorin and that he saw himself as a Kwara person but now it seems he is using Niger State now. He being of Fulani stock but married to a Yoruba woman from Ijebuland[Bisket] and he grew up speaking Yoruba fleuenly.
What struck me in that interview was how Fulani of the same stock like the Dan Musas claimed multiple states in Nigeria, because the Dan Musas also exist in Katsina as well which is where they originally are from.
That said, the British Archival materials such as the History of Nigeria by Sir Allan Burns who was the Governor General of Nigeria clearly stated that Ilorin is a Yoruba town, and that Illorin is one of the Biggest Yoruba towns in Colonial Nigeria.
Lastly I have stated before that all the Archival materials should be gathered by the original Yoruba owners of Ilorin [Ilo Irin], to the International Courts so they can have a greater role in their town.
I remember reading archival materials about Ilorin and it was indicated that Balogun Alanamu [of Yoruba descent] was the MOST powerful man in Ilorin but the British George Goldie's schemings led to the elevation of the emir[of mixed Yoruba and Fulani heritage] who was just an Islamic leader to play a more dominant role. We know the British used the Fulani emirs to collect taxes for them from the conquered territories.
It is also on record that the then British Governor of the Lagos Colony had indicated that Ilorin should be merged with the South instead of the former North, but Sir George Goldie of the Royal Niger Company rejected it and said that area of Nigeria was within his "sphere of trading influence" so that is how the northernmost part of Yorubaland ended up in the Old Northern Region [Kwara and Kogi States].
There should just be a referendum and their should be no fighting or bloodshed over Ilorin. I'm aware that you have mixed Fulani and Yoruba heritage as you have already stated in your NL profile and I don't see anything wrong in that. Atiku Abubakar is Fulani from Adamawa and one of his wives, Titi is from Osun and their mixed heritage children will always be welcome by their kith-and-kin or Osun cousins. Awesome submission. |
Culture › Re: Superiority Between The Alaafin And The Ooni, Fact Of The Matter by Olu317(m): 6:21pm On Nov 09, 2017 |
Neyomickey1: Thank you so much, your knowledge of our culture is so vast. Alafin and Oni are actually stepbrothers, then I don't see any reason for superiority contest. Agba o ni tan lori ile. Half brothers you mean . They are actually same father but different mothers,even with the first king of Yoruba descent in Bini called Oba Bini (Present day Edo state, Nigeria) |
Culture › Re: Superiority Between The Alaafin And The Ooni, Fact Of The Matter by Olu317(m): 12:58pm On Nov 09, 2017 |
Neyomickey1: Thanks for your depth of knowledge. From your illustrations above, you have mentioned the seven town that the seven grandchildren of Odua occupied and Ile-Ife is not directly among them,does that mean that the ruling dynasties of ile-Ife, though they occupied the exalted seat of Odua and wear Ade Are, are not directly from the seven grandchildren of Oduduwa. They are the descendants of Oranmiyan. When Oranmiyan went back to ILE IFE during uprising after Obalufon became the Ooni. Obalufon is also a descendant of Odu'a but his mother is a servant/slave .So it became a problem, as he became the Ooni at this period. Oranmiyan came back to ILE IFE from Oyo ILE he founded because he had install his first born known as AJaka to be king. On his return, he threatened his patrilineal half cousin (brothers as naturally as Yoruba call themselves) called Obalufon and Obalufon stepped down. This was how he remarried in ILE IFE and beget new children who are his descendants. However, one of his descendants was so powerful after Oranmiyan's death, who was known as Ooni Lajamisan that he made it a way that his own descendants are the ruling family houses till today. One important aspect is that Oranmiyan descendants of ILE IFE tends to be more spiritually powerful and warriors in nature as Oranmiyan himself was. Although today things has been far better because hardly do one easily identify who is who in Yoruba land. In the olden days things were very very tough as regard ritualism. Even when you come across any one, perhaps of Oranmiyan descendants, you can hardly believe it |
Culture › Re: I Want To Learn Itsekiri Language (get In) by Olu317(m): 6:33am On Nov 09, 2017 |
Konquest: ^^^^^^ @ onuwaje I thought number 1 is OKAN in Itsekiri? Has it been changed now to MEENE?
The offshore oilfields off the coast of Ugborodo [otherwise called Escravos] are known as okan, meji, meta, meren oilfields and are operated by Chevron since the 1960's. This was indicated in the Atlas of Nigeria we used in schools in the late 1970s.
You have a nice thread here.  Okan is also used interchangeably with Mèeni/ Èeni,in Yoruba too. |
Culture › Re: I Want To Learn Itsekiri Language (get In) by Olu317(m): 6:24am On Nov 09, 2017 |
ezeagu: By the way, is there a word like oko relating to males in Itsekiri? I know oko is husband in Yoruba, in Igbo, however, oko means male which is the root of okoro, man is also nwoko in some dialects (nwa (child) + oko (male)) Ako is male while Abo is female in old Yoruba language order. |
Politics › Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Olu317(m): 10:30pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
TundeHashim: bro...while I completely agree with u that there's a cultural assimilation in Ilorin...I am, however indifferent about whether Saraki is a Yoruba or not. however, u made an error. The Balogun Fulani have paternal Fulani ancestry traceable to a particular quarters in Kebbi. I'm Fulani and I've got relatives married to the olufadi and imam-Fulani clans. However, you're absolutely right if you had said Balogun Gambari. I presume you know they're four Baloguns in Ilorin. Two Yorubas(Ajikobi and Alanamu), One Hausa(Gambari) and one Fulani (Fulani). Some crazy power play happened in Balogun Gambari quarters that eventually led to a Yoruba man (murogo) becoming a Balogun Gambari. But we're all one..a big family bounded by an Islamic identity headed under the leadership of the house of Alimi... We all have one thing or the other to share so that people get to know the fact as it is. If you are married to this family, then you do have a strong link. However, the famous Alfa Tukur Asunnara and Alfa Erubu were Yoruba. The Alaya-bi-agba family is Igbomina from Omu-Aran as are Oniyangis who came from Ada-nla near Igbaja; the Edun family, which is Igbomina, too, came from Ila Orangun although Alhaji Buhari Edun had a Nupe mother. I feel you need do more research on them so as to ascertain these views. The reality on ground is that these people's history is slightly less than 200-250 years. I know in all these quarters, there are different groups that fused together to form this group. Lastly, there are even DNA traces that showed less than 1% of Fulani blood traces with Yoruba, in which Ilorin enclave is included. There have been Islamic researchers who are really trying to contribute to the ancestral home of the Yorubas because they also believed that the people called Yorubas are migrants to their present day location. |
Culture › Re: Superiority Between The Alaafin And The Ooni, Fact Of The Matter by Olu317(m): 10:24pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
Neyomickey1: Many thanks for your response. If I got you right , Oranmiyan, that is lineage is ruling Ife,is one of the Odua's seven grandchildren, what is the name of the remain six grandchildren and the town they are ruling? Oranmiyan created three dynasties amongst the grandchildren of Odu'a . Let me name them ; Olowu owu (first born of Odu'a was the mother of this lineage, whose father side was Oba tala's), Then came Fagbamila who also was being known as Orangun ILE ILA(Present day ILA Orangun lineage),then One sabe of Sabe (present day in Bénin Republic), Alaketu of Ketu (Present day Ketou Bénin Republic), Oni popo of popo, Oba ILE ibinu which is known today as Bini (Owoka corruptly known in Edo as Eweka), Alaafin Oyo. However, Oranmiyan created the last two and reign as Ooni of ILE IFE after his demise, One of his great grandson called Ooni Lajamisan, perfected his own descendants to rule ILE IFE as God has destined. |
Politics › Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Olu317(m): 12:15pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
BakireBulmaker: You these young ones ehn...
Na wa This is the reason history need be taught in all school grades. Even if need be in religious circle. |
Politics › Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Olu317(m): 6:45am On Nov 08, 2017 |
TundeHashim: Lol...it's funny how people who know close to nothing about Ilorin history claim to be an authority on Ilorin. Some people, having read some discredited works claim to know Ilorin even much more than the Emir. so funny.
First and foremost, The Sarakis claim to originate from Agbaji Quarters, specifically at "Ile Agoro". Further checks on Agbaji itself and Agoro shows that the progenitor of the Agoro compound is NEITHER Fulani Nor Yoruba. In fact, He's a SHUWA ARAB who migrated from a Sudan via Mali to Ilorin. The name Agbaji is a Yoruba version of the town they come from "Al-barji" in the Sudan.
However, Most people classify SHUWA as FULANI just because of the close similarities between them.
one thing of note is that there's a Fulanization of the shuwa/tuareg in most Emirates. most shuwa, on account of close similarity with the Fulani, would just subsume their identities under that of the Fula identity, and interestingly they're welcome. Also, They're culturally Yoruba because they've assimilated the Yoruba culture, to a great extent.
So it is true, to an extent, that Saraki is a Fulani and a Yoruba man. it is also true that Saraki is not a Fulani nor Yoruba. However, what is true at all time is that Saraki is an Ilorin man!
Thank u The reality is that there are cultural assimilation by people who migrated toward the Ilorin but do have a lot of intermarriages with the so called Yoruba of today. However, Candidly, Sarakis are paternally Yoruba. Even the Balogun Fulanis of Ilorin are of paternally of Yoruba descent. However, one thing that baffles me is the method at which these people understood Yoruba dialects without having a formal studying for it. If solagberu's ancestor who settled at Kuwo, but was said to have migrated from part of Bama in Borno( Kanuris) before solagberu's migration to Oke suna Ilorin is really interesting having these set of people fusing with others. But it seems these people have one form of link or the other because, why would such without reasons? Perhaps greener pastures or seeking out families members? The Yorubas are of different groups that fused together with new ones but most of them do still retain one form of tradition linking them to their past. |
Politics › Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Olu317(m): 6:21am On Nov 08, 2017 |
Markfemi: Dino melaye js a Yoruba man Go and read history Kogi Yorubas and Kwara are 100% Yoruba land But some Fulani elements have settled in ilorin even adopting Yoruba name Only thing I can say is Bukola smother is a Yoruba Woman But you can’t compare Bukola to oyedeoo or dunk cause they are from different places and not loyal to any sultan Sarakis are Yorubas.
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Politics › Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Olu317(m): 6:14am On Nov 08, 2017 |
Cyynthialove: I still don't know why we are attaching ourselves to Saraki even when Saraki has severally denied his yorubaness  Where did you read such? |
Culture › Re: Superiority Between The Alaafin And The Ooni, Fact Of The Matter by Olu317(m): 10:16pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Neyomickey1: In my quest for knowledge and clarity, is Oni of Ife among Okanbi's seven children? and if yes, what position? Thanks Ooni is a title of the overheard king in Yoruba land . Okanbi was not the father of Ooni but the opposite. Olofin Adimula, popularly called Odu'a was the first Oooni. And Odédè (Oranmiyan) was the grandson of Odu'a, whose descendants from the lineage of Ooni Lajamisan are the ones ruling in ILE IFE. |
Politics › Re: Olayinka Omigbodun, Victor Banjo’s Daughter: Ojukwu Betrayed My Dad, Killed Him by Olu317(m): 12:24pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
WetinConsignMe: Simple. Aguiyi was set to announce it on leaving the West and Fajuyi's house on the 29th as a parting gift to the West and Fajuyi. They were both killed that day. But the coup plotters knew of the release. Lie from the pit of hell is this one. Nigeria's civil wasn't something you can imagine nor guess correctly. The Nigeria's archive has many events covered even on the form of communication used . Aguiyi Ironsi had no intention to release Awolowo as you claimed. |
Culture › Re: A Yoruba Poem- Ise Logun Ise (work Is The Antidote For Poverty) by Olu317(m): 7:48pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
personal59: HARDWORK:Antidole for Poverty
Hardwork is the antidole for poverty
So my dear friend you've got to work hard
Hardwork is the key to success
Where no helper is found
Real progress becomes a difficult task
And since you have no godfather
You'd better get on with your job
Perhaps your mother has lots of money
And your father,a row of mansions
If that's all you can show for living
You are already on the losing side
For without making any personal venture
You cannot expect any gain
For the fruit of your labour
Eventually produces eternal and enduring flavour
From your labour comes your true reward
The world will love you
If you have lots of money
But such love depends on your consistent wealth
Or if perchance you occupy a noble position
Friends will throng you like bees
However when tragedy strikes
That time, friends become very scarce
Education can also launch you to great heights
So make sure you take advantage of it
If you see hordes of people deriding knowledge
Don't be found among such critics
Ignorance surely breeds suffering and hardship
And truancy is the mother of regret
So don't play away your precious youth
Work hard, for the night is coming.
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Lanre Ogunibi Great effort. Keep it up |
Culture › Re: Kabba Cultural Festival: Okun People To Honour Ooni Of Ife On Saturday. by Olu317(m): 12:50pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
Excellent |