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swave7:
Can you point of which ones stand out most in the Bible as reincarnation example? Me can't think of any source o

John the Baptist was a reincarnated of prophet Elijah.Long ago, God declared, “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the ... Jesus was speaking of John when He said, “he is Elijah who is to come” (Matthew 11: 13-14); ...

13:For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
14:And if ye will receive it , this is Elias, which was for to come.

ivolt:
He could have used a purple lion!
It doesn't matter what he allegedly sacrificed and we don't even know that.
There is always a first time for everything.


Evidence please?
From the way you write it appears you are not familiar
with early Ife occultic practices and you seem to confuse
modern western anthropomorphic god with that of
traditional religion adherents



Please check the meaning of "know" and "history", the two words are not
to be used when discussing myths and conjectures.

I mentioned white ram, yet you seem not to do understand.... Oh k.
I am...
Omo Ooni Olofin/Olufin/Alaafin Odu'a
Omo Oranmiyan,
Omo lajamisan
Lajado ogun
Lafogido
Omo Luusi
Omo Laade (Orimolaade)
Omo Ajamaiye/Ajalaiye
My grandfather was one of legimate son of Ajamaiye/Ajamaiye
My biological father
Myself and sibling etc

Now,you can see that I will know my ancestors history. We are many but only stated my side of ancestors lineage....

I know my history very well.....

ivolt:
Wrong title: "Oduduwa Mythology" would be more apt.

Aside his reign and struggle with the traditionalists, Oduduwa's
life still remains a mystery.

Neither Samuel Johnson's middle-east theory nor the deity hypothesis has any
validity.

But one thing is certain, he was not a foreigner.

If he wasn't a foreigner,how come he used white ram as a sacrifice for his ancestors? How come he used white local chalk with kola and other things as well as killing of white cockerel/ doves etc in concentric circle to worshiped almighty God ? Some people seems to be too attached emotional to specific location but the truth will always showcase itself. Odu'a descendants know certain things that are alien to many people who don't know the man's history.

kennyblack94:
Gee I wasn't talking about nsibidi...can you reason deep into what you said...do it occur to you that Ajayi crowther can't speak/fluent in Igbo language, how can you write the language you can't speak or understand?

Truthfully, Samuel Ajayi crowther had Ibo men who were part of the missionaries that aided the First Christian publication. The Ibos speakers were SIMON JONAS and Rev. J. C Taylor. Samuel ,was the first to use the lepsuis “standard alphabet ". This was the beginning of it all.

Probz:
I’m not talking about the Yoruba race in this thread. Don’t derail.

Kindly refer to me solely if you misunderstood my point. I have no intention or whatsoever to derail this perspective of yours. But to draw out the view I have once raised last year when I mentioned Ibo language as being older than Yoruba's. So, there isn't any fume over it, neither is it for egocentrism. The guy called macof who used the word “shit " knows nothing about Odu'a because he is not a patrilineal descendants based on the information he has. I know his problem is all about self glorifying because he think he knows but far from it, he isn't with true facts because I didn't read about my ancestors only but know and follow/practise most of my ancestors custom . I will not take up the issue with him. It is not upright to do such because I am well trained. Lastly, this is my last take on this, so, let us not drag this issue out of context. Just stating the facts as it exist.

kennyblack94:
Gee get your facts straight ...Ajayi Crowther never did such..rather the white terrorists did that,in 1960s the Dr. Onwu Igbo alphabet was adopted. .please stop being biased in a delicate matters like this ....

Still read up https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo_language to clear your doubts....

Nsibidi wasn't widespread. Beside, it was pre-16th century. Below was what Samuel Ajayi crowther did. I am not interested in engaging you on e-war. I just want to enjoy what I find amusing to me on here. However, correct information is essential so as not to mislead people.

Probz:
This is an Igbo thread Olu. Yoruba hasn’t been mentioned once. Get out if you’re gonna start a tribal war. I no want wahala ebe a.

You seem to be very bad with words ,anyway, I just stated the truth . Definitely you just gave me a definite opinion of your bias self because, you have expressed your opinion severally on Yoruba thread,why condemn me? Get out of here?, Tribal war? with whom? Did you see who quoted me? Don't be in a hurry to judge me. I stated the fact as it was from the period even before 18th century. I don't have time to get into war with anyone. I ain't ready for unprofitable e-war with anyone.

kennyblack94:
Please we ain't Ibo rather Igbo, our language is Igbo not Ibo..Please take note. .

That is a new identity adopted by all of you in the new era but truthfully, you were referred as Ibos, even though you chose the recent name identification . In the olden days. After all, Samuel Ajayi crowther was one of the helping hands in helping the you people in standardising your language's alphabetical order.

Guestlander:
Oba of Benin himself descended from Oranmiyan. Kini big deal?

Adorable opinion

kolamade23:
I am happy the author of this write up called history has been properly educated through good evidences in terms of previous Obas including Alaafins, Oba of benin and other Obas paying due respect to Ooni. The attached correspondence between Alaafin and Ooni will further and clearly buttress the Ooni supremacy.
(i) Let me however quickly correct the author in some things, Please note as from today that the meaning of Ooni is the one who has all land i.e, fully called Oonile, but because he is still the second in command to the God of the land and Oduduwa himself the first Ooni being a deity, so people fondly call him Oonirisa. So the concept of Ooni coming from Olorisa worshipers is not only untrue but unfortunate of a calibare of any educated mind.
(ii) Just watch out for my forthcoming book, Alaafin is actually leaving in the past called Oyo empire which is long expired, even though upon all the local military battle alaafin did around, that never has any thing to do with Ooni. Again, most people don't know what we called IFE empire which actually gave birth to oyo itself. So an empire rises and falls, nothing like Ife empire which gave rise to Oyo empire any longer, not to talk of oyo empire which is a product of Ife empire. Please read greek and Roman empire for proper education.
(iii) Ade Aare remains the only superior crown in yoruba land, and it is only Ooni that wears it , infact only once in a year. Further to this is that the momemt one Ooni dies the crown disappears and new but unique one through spiritual means is given to the new Ooni.
(iv) Again the first Alaafin is the fifth Ooni of Ife and after given birth to Ajaka the second Alaafin, and Eweka the second Oba of benin, he returned backed to his supreme base as Ooni of Ife with a proof of oranmiyan staff in Ile-Ife till today. So the question to you is that however great any of them may be, can a son be graeter than his father?
(v) Again, there is nothing any body does that does not have rewards, Alaafin conduct to his superior in general explains why the inferiors to him equally took over Ilorin from him and of course so unfortunate that he has to relocate to the present Oyo town, whereas, old Ife still remains today Ife.
(Vi) So with these little facts at your desk, who is Alaafin when we talk of Ooni?

Excellent assertion. God bless your depth research on it.

excanny:
But they possess the same xtics as Ijebus and equally feared like Ijebu. What happened to the term Ijebu- Remo? Why all the sudden denial because you want Ijebus to codedly produce another governor before others' turn?

The REMOS are specifically from OKE TASÉ in ILE IFE. However, it is basically because each sub strong clan whose crown came directly from ILE IFE will refuse to b subjected by other stronger group. They are all related but identify mostly with migration pattern.

sexybbstar:
I don't need it.. Others can apply.

Truthfully, extremely few ladies will refuse such temptations. Wish you favour though, if you are genuine.

Happy birthday to a wonderful and powerful Alaafin OYO, Oba Adeyemi Lamidi.

Dedetwo:
If Ojukwu had flaws and weakness, the appointment of Col Banjo as CO of 101 Brigade magnified such shortfalls in a human.

The war was simply lost because of two factors; The killing of Victor Banjo,which brewed more hatred toward Biafra and the Boastful nature of Odimegwu Ojukwu,who had no known strategy to win the war but killed the whole Nigeria Army with his lips.

EvilMetahuman:
like your father.

You can rant on here freely because it is a faceless forum. Honestly, if you meet me, you will prostrate. Do I blame a young blood like you? Of course not. I tell you of a truth there is a negative touch to your life and peace shall elude you. You have a name and identity because you were born. For the fact you have no manner online, then you will know that not everyone you should disrespect

Nowenuse:
Yeah, the thread is for only ritualists. Continue. May your god of human rituals locate u and your family members very soon, so you can taste the true joy and sweetness of traditionalism

Not true. Yoruba religion isn't about human ritualism alone .Not at all . The Alaafin Oyo was only emphasising the true identity of who are who in Yoruba land. Take for instance ,in the olden days , there are names for different categories of people in Yoruba land. And none can be interchanged with another. And it is obvious some elements here are descendants of kings , Dukes , Chiefs , warriors , Rich, commoners, Farmers, Slaves etc. In fact, Christianity and Islam crashed the classes. Although by our ORIKI IDILÈ, you can identify us all. If indeed, we resulted back to the main way of life, a lot won't like their lineage ancestors . It is a saving grace. From the opinion of some people here, it is obvious some are from a commoners or slave lineage because of their comments has sold them out.

EvilMetahuman:
again, shut the fhuck up if you don't have anything meaningful to say.

You are mannerless.

EvilMetahuman:
ooni insulted entire yoruba race when he declared jesus is bigger than all our gods.

Shut the fhuck up.

You think you can insult everyone online?. I don't blame people like you whose history is perpetually watery. It is on you.

EvilMetahuman:
ooni insulted entire yoruba race when he declared jesus is bigger than all our gods.

Shut the fhuck up.

You think you can insult everyone online?. I don't blame people like you whose history is perpetually watery. It is on you.

holatunde1759:
Hmmm....The wise ones will understand.

Yes of course ,you are right.

Jetleeee:
Ooni has done some bullocks things since he got crowned breh

Let's call a spade a spade.

Bullocks as how? Can you do me the honour and name them. There are things in life, one need be cautious about what one type or say. Irrespective of Ooni's flaw as a mortal, should anyone who is a descendant of Yoruba not accept him for who he is. Even though he isnt perfect. Odu'a had his own flaw as human likewise Oranmiyan , or were you told they were perfect men ? Ooni Ogunwusi may not know too much about our ancestors,still doesn't give anyone of Yoruba descent to disrespect him. Understanding Jesus or Ela or Eledumare is divine. A seeker of wisdom must always learn to be prudent with words else the wisest one(Eledumare) take away wisdom from such individual. As far as the truth be told even you don't have deep knowledge of who were the first set of Yoruba or where Yoruba came from. Be wiser than the wise ones and let the wisest one teach you the deeper things of life. Just try not to be too emotional about the present Ooni of ILE IFE

oodualover:
Ogbeni leave me jor. That guy called adewusi or whatever should not have been the Ooni. He is the one disrespecting the throne, not me.

Leave you Jor?Are you the one to be crowned the king then if he isn't fit? How does he disrespected the throne? Is it because of the lady who couldn't be the queen? A true king and kindly king knows, he can only be king if Eledua sanctify it. I don't need to know you but I tell you of a truth, no matter, how emotional you are, there are things of the spirit beyond you and I. Don't get yourself into spiritual trouble. It is not about social media thing . I have opined.

oodualover:
I love you baba! I respect you more than that nonsense and shiity Ooni of Ife.
Kabiyesi oo!
Kojo pe lori!
Ki bata pe lese!

Are you alright at all? Is it Ooni's stool you refer to with such insult? If You have a problem with your own personal lineage, why not sort it out them. You better know how to comment on social media. Wherever you are located in life is accessible to breeze. Be very warned.

Tomoarika:
To me Col Banjo remains the most misunderstood character of that period.

He wasn't a participant of the Jan 66 coup although he could have supported the reasons behind it as he was considered by the young majors (from Wale Ademoyega's account) yet he was punished for it.
Was he ever tried and found guilty as part of the Jan 66 group? No

Now when he was released by his friend Ojukwu, did he really have a choice as to whether to fight for Biafra or not?

What were his real reasons for halting at Ore?

Remember the Midwest region had been declared a neutral territory prior to the Midwest invasion whereby the then Mil Gov Ejoor refused the FG from keeping troops in the Midwest.
With the Federal troops bearing down on the capital Enugu, the attempt to take Lagos could have brought relief to Biafra but this failed leading the FG to declare a full out war against the rebels (as they were called)

Wale Ademoyega claimed in his book that the four; Banjo, Ifeajuna, Alale and Agbam were executed on the charge "Intention to Overthrow" rather than an actual attempt at it which shouldn't have been enough for the sentence.


Banjo could be a scapegoat, a traitor, a victim of circumstances depending on who you ask. Truth is, we may never know which. It's a pity dead men tell no tales.

That period was just a crazy one. May we not experience another like it.

Such can't happen again and again in Yoruba land. Col.Banjo was used to cover up ,he “Ojukwu " flaws and weakness. And I hope all Yoruba living now and in the future will understand that an alliance with Eastern people is and will always be a calamity. I can't even comprehend the wickedness in the heart of some folks even on here apportioning blame to a man that was killed through a kangaroo tribunal. No wonder, even the man that killed him bedridden till he died. I am so elated at the manner at which the children of late col. Victor Banjo have survived the storm. They are doing well despite the early death of their father at tender ages. This is the power of God to have showcase his greatness. They are in the news and are bold to speak positively about their father. Can the children of Odumegwu Ojukwu do the same about him? This is how life plays out on the just and unjust.....

Guestlander:
Ojukwu was an insecure little tyrant. He couldn't withstand the clout of people like Banjo and Ifeajuna so he killed them, period.

Ojukwu was a betrayal in all ramification. As unbridled as he was with pseudo self glorification, he still came back to Nigeria after he ran away as a coward and still came back to lick the booth of Hausa-Fulani to contest political position. I have never stop imagining ,if he had won a SENATORIAL POST, what would he has to tell Nigerians as a whole after he plunged his people into a war against Nigeria ? A war he won't ever win even in uncountable repetition times.

victorDanladi:
Those guys can lie to self glorify and chest beat.That is why we describe their chest beat as being empty!

Yeah,very true. Although I don't care about their lies because truth always overshadow it. That's the reason LIGHT will always overcome darkness.

laudate:
Well, from what I can see here there appears to be about 45 Yoruba professors, out of the 63 professors listed here. Abi, na my eye?

It is supposed to be 46 if truth must be told. This is because professor Chike Obi was not the First professor of mathematics but professor ADEGOKE OLUBUMO

blackboy:
true. I'm from the lineage. My mum told me about this years back.

Quite great reading about someone claiming descent from her lineage. This make the story more truthful.

step1:
Yes it does we have so many pseudo-intellectuals in Nigeria chai !!!!

Please what is yoruba ? What is Benin ? Who are the people that make up Benin, culturally, religiously, food and language.

Bini is a Yoruba word for a part that Oranmiyan went on espionage and expedition. He was successful but not outrightly. He took Yoruba tradition to the place but left a son son called (Owo mi ka = Owoka), corruptly called Eweka, whose descent took the better part of the present BINI. The ancient Oba of BINI's courtyard language was Yoruba. However, all has changed and not all the tradition of Yoruba are observed because of the Indigenous people had their own traditions before Oranmiyan showed up. In recent time, Edo has come up with a new version of the tale by the moon light story by claiming the man popularly known as Odu'a as their own son. Funny enough, the man they referred to as Odu'a had a way of worshipping God in his life time. In fact. He had animal associated with his ancestors. Non of these are related to any group in Edo or the present day Nigeria. It is an insult on my ancestors for all these nonsense they write online or being peddled around by uninformed set of people wanting unnecessary attaché to my ancestors. I am a humble descendant of Oranmiyan and I get pissed off when I read all sort of stories as if some of us haven't done research on our ancestors. Edo, BINI Kingdom associate with red in all they do , but Yoruba kingly tradition of ILE IFE don't associate positivity with reddish object as such except fetishism ,ritualism and occultism unlike Edo ,BINI, precisely . These things have made Yoruba tradition, religion,culture etc different. Although, we are still related via the kingly lineage of BINI. This is the only connection as it stand. As far as I am concerned, I don't care about their decision but let them not insult my Ancestors history. Lastly, this is about Yoruba dominance in Kwara state . But the politically, it is carved with North Central, which Yoruba in general have been asking for fusion with south west part of Nigeria. I hope, very soon, this can be achieved.

EdoNation:
Point of correction we Edos do not have anything to do with Yoruba's apart from our prince oduduwa who wandered into your town, KingOvoramwen is a bonafude son of the red soil and he us reppin the empire to the fullest you shud do the same with your Yoruba tribe ,so pls quit this gibberish you are typing , you don't sound learned , and stop rediculing your tribe it is not for the best... Bye!!

Which of the two is a ridiculed group ? BINI, whose greatness came from Yoruba land or have you forgotten? All your development came from Yoruba land. Have you no historical record that the word “Oba" belong to Yoruba ancestors? It will be good if you have people who knows the history very well to educate you. Live with it

abdelrahman:
maybe he is even impostor.

He is an imposter from his opinion about ILORIN enclave

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