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Let me add that if you like the idea of two beautiful women together, then you actually like and appreciate homosexuality, just a particular kind.

I'd be willing to be that there are a lot of men who look at lesbian porn while saying how much they hate homosexuals.

italo:
Keep fooling yourself.

What about China, Soviet Union etc?

I only focused on North Korea. The Communist Party of China is atheist, as was the Soviet Union's (though it could be argued except during the time of Stalin when Stalin became their god. I am neutral on this).

KingEbukasBlog:
What?! North Korea is a quintessence of an atheist nation . Those leaders proclaimed themselves as gods because they are megalomaniacs

Some Atheists believe in spirituality and not personal God and gods

Look at what they do, not what they say. These people are held up as god-like figures. Why else would they say that Kim Jong Un made 23 consecutive holes-in-one the first time he played golf? They have a religion, of which the gods are the Kims.

There are indeed atheists who believe in a type of spirituality but you will not find many who believe in the type of miracles that the North Korean press claims.

italo:
Religion is also being discriminated by Atheists in North Korea and China.

But block-heads like you have never heard of those countries.

North Korea is not atheist. Their gods are their dead leaders Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il. If you need proof then look at the 'miracles' that have been attributed to them--great signs supposedly occurred at their births and so on. Atheists don't believe in miracles or miraculous signs.

lexiconkabir:
which they've been unable to prove, all speculations!

I am totally open to you trying to prove that the Quran comes from some celestial being. However, the more I look at the Quran the more evident it becomes that it was written by humans. Applying Occam's razor, I would have to start with the assumption that it was written by humans because all other books were as well.

Clearly the authorities in Kenya are afraid of something. Maybe the atheists are closer to the truth than people think?

Joshthefirst:
It seems you have a problem with the definition of faith. Faith is not a lack of evidence. Someone somewhere has convinced you that faith involves an unreasonable lack of evidence of phenomena. That is not the case.

Faith is the substance of things hoped for. The evidence of things not seen. Have you ever seen your brain? Have you ever seen oxygen? An atom? Mars?

You have faith in plenty of things my friend. Faith is what enables us to forge through every challenge and even life itself.

You analogy of faith, and what my faith implies is insulting and offensive to me.

Faith is defined as the following: "strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof."

Faith does not help me get through anything. If I believe that atoms exist, it is because researchers have shown indirect but logical and compelling proof that atoms exist. Same with the theory of evolution.

Offense was not intended by me. However I stand by what I wrote.

UyiIredia:
It's a pity with all the knowledge you have you can't infer what early men inferred. This is what oversabi causes.

Sorry, I prefer oversabi to a lack of it. Early men were wrong about this as they were wrong about sooooo many other things.

Joshthefirst:
No. You do have faith. Everyone has faith. You believe there's an organ called a brain in your cranial cavity, you believe that when you go to bed you'll fall asleep, you believe you won't suddenly lose fine motor function in your fingers when you eventually reply this post.

That is not faith, I know I have a brain because all humans who have been studied have been shown to have one in order to function. This is perfectly good evidence that I must also have one.

I certainly believe that I will go to sleep when I go to bed, because I have plenty of evidence from past experience. This is not faith.

Now, if I said I could fly by flapping my arms, then that would be faith, because people cannot fly like that and so I have no evidence to suggest otherwise.

Amberon11:
what were the conflicting claims? Even the Muslims acknowledge Jesus and most of the biblical stories to be true. That's about 4billion people who believe that Jesus Christ existed, along with loads of archeological findings to back the biblical history. So who is lying to who here?

That Jesus died on the cross? That Jesus is the son of God? That the trinity explains the relationship between Jesus and God? That Muhammad was a prophet?

All of these are differences between Muslims and Christians that are not minor. These are profound differences and both cannot be correct. Therefore somebody is lying. Or both are lying.

Joshthefirst:
How will you expect empirical evidence of something not physical?

I'd not be so strong in faith if I only had empirical evidence of God's power and salvation.

And I have zero faith so naturally I require evidence for claims.

vybzkartel:
Just asking the atheists here

If we are so annoying then why don't you pray to your god to stop us, and if you won't pray then why do you have such little faith in your god?

hockeyoilers:
The beauty of Sharia Law.


For example: do you know where the concept of a “jury of your peers” comes from? It emerged directly from Sharia law, not Western jurisprudence. The Islamic lafif—a twelve-member group of ordinary people, neighbours and peers sworn to tell the truth and give a unanimous verdict in a trial—settled matters of judicial truth long before the concept of a jury found its way into English law.

jury-of-your-peers

Wrong. The English jury comes from old Scandinavian traditions of discussion groups, which were very important in their culture. And there is zero evidence to suggest that a particular form of trial in the Middle East was transferred to England while skipping over all those other cultures that it would have had to pass through.


And even 1000 years before Islam, the Greeks used juries for trials of guilt or innocence. (see the trial of Socrates)

Scholar8200:
Well this reply is not for you since you are not a Jew.

However, these were the same people Jesus said made God's Law void by their traditions! At the time Jesus came, they were expecting a Political Messiah that is why at a time, they tried to force Him to be a king and after resurrection, even the disciples were asking if He will restore the Kingdom to Israel immediately!

However, if they had considered Daniel 9:26, it will be clear that the Messiah was to be killed as Isaiah 53 also showed.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
Daniel 9:26

That is one aspect they did not seem to grasp. In fact, some assumed two Messiahs -one will die according to prophecies while the other will take over politically. They did not understand that there will be two advents for the same Person because there will be a resurrection after death !

I understand why Christians say that Jesus is the Messiah; however, as you know, the Jews have their own reasons and their own interpretations as to why they think he is not. This argument has gone on for 2000 years and isn't likely to go away soon.

Joshthefirst:
BTW, death isn't final, you, the real you, are not your body. You're only living in your body. You see, through your eyes, and use your physical body to perceive things and interact with matters in the physical world.

Any empirical evidence of this?

KingEbukasBlog:
Muslim ? Im not a muslim . Please stop making false claims . History is there and the birth of Jesus Christ is true .

If you think there was no such one as Jesus Christ the Messiah , you can provide a video to substantiate such claims . If you not , you are the one lying .

Is that a tough task ?

Nowhere did I say that Jesus did not exist. I merely stated that lies were told thousands of years ago, and nowhere did I imply that you were muslim. If you compare the Gospels as well as the letters of the various early Christians, you will see that enough contradictions mean that at least someone was lying.

By the way, according to Jewish tradition, Jesus could not have been the Messiah, which is why they reject him. So even here someone is lying. I tend to agree that he was not the Messiah because I don't believe there is one at all.

analice107:
Well, that will not be Yahweh, maybe another God(?)

Imagine that you aren't praying to the correct god, and so every prayer just makes him madder and madder. Gods are jealous, you know.

KingEbukasBlog:
Onetrack , do you have a video to serve as an evidence that lies were told thousands of years ago ? If you have the video as an evidence to buttress your claims , you can add that to your second track tho .

I need a video to prove you are telling the truth

Just look at the conflicting claims made by various Jewish, Christian, and Muslim authors. They all cannot be telling the truth, however, they can all be lying.

And evidently, Satan will come out and piss in your ear if you do not get up for the morning prayer:

A man said: 'O Messenger of Allah (ﷺ). So-and-so slept and missed the prayer yesterday until morning came.' He said: 'The Shaitan has urinated in that one's ears.'"

http://sunnah.com/nasai/20/12

analice107:
But you are an atheist nah, so there will be nothing, just wait till you die. But ehn?? , reeeaaaaallllly pray, there's indeed no God.
You see me? I have nothing to lose, if there's no God, and I die to find that out, nothing to lose, after all, my beliefs kept me from hurt my fellow humans and destroying myself in the process. But if I die and discover there's indeed God, I will just embrace Him and smile on. But you!!!, Pray and be verrryyyy certain dear, be verrryyyy certain. because Satan won't be standing by you to answer for the deceit, Steven Hawkins won't be there, Charles Dawin, No any father of atheists will stand side by side you. That's if there's God oo. You will stand for yourself. The saddest part is that, you will remember everything we are telling you now.
Anyways, don't worry, be happy.

What if this god only allows atheists into heaven, and punishes people who followed man-made books and belief systems. God works in mysterious ways, as they say....

KingEbukasBlog:
Not long ago? ... the date says 2010 - six years ago . Must you atheists tell blatant LIES ?

Pfft

6 years is not long ago. You guys dwell on lies that happened thousands of years ago, which is long ago.

KingEbukasBlog:
Please stop making weak and outlandish assertions . I would have loved to post embarrassing posts of atheists' understanding of God but its not worth it

I am an atheist because I studied religion.

Take a look at this religious knowledge survey done in the US not long ago. Tell me which group had the highest average score.

http://www.pewforum.org/2010/09/28/u-s-religious-knowledge-survey/

Genghis Khan did not convert to Islam. Some of his descendants, known as the Mughals, did convert to Islam and then went on a rampage which killed tens of millions of people, including Hindus, Buddhists, and Muslims. Look up Tamerlane for more info.

I am an atheist, but an agnostic one. I believe that this life is all there is, but I cannot say for sure that this is true, since there is no real evidence one way or the other.

People, I think, created the idea of life after death to avoid having to deal with the idea that death is final.

Ultimately, we are made of star dust, and the molecules that make up our bodies were present in the Big Bang, so in a sense we are eternal.

KingEbukasBlog:
Yeah it says for religious experts . In simple terms , he cares less or nothing at all about your opinion

Bye

Sorry, he asked for religious experts. Atheists know more about religion than religious people do, on average, and therefore are more qualified.

Phero:
I am a Christian and I believe God exist buh there are some things that baffle me and I find hard to believe being an enthusiast person below they are written:

•Why did God put the fruit of knowledge in the garden of eden when he knows it can tempt Adam and eve.
•Why does he destroy and totally eliminates his enemies an example is when he ordered Saul to destroy the amalikites and when he spared them he punished Saul.
•How could prophet Jeremiah order bears to eat up children that mocked him.
•Why does he create evil,natural disasters and punish people if he is really a merciful God.
•According to the Bible the devil was second in command that is second after God when he rebelled against God,God sent him away down to the earth to cause chaos.
•Why did he make Blacks to be back word and uncivilized.
•Why does he favour a group of people over others.
•why did he create hell fire to punish those who goes against him?.

These stories are all man-made and resemble many other mythologies created in thousands of traditional societies around the world. Looking for logical explanations will not get you very far.

Non-religion is also seeing a rapid rise in Canada.

Toks2008:
And it is very astounding that Jehovah made the galaxies.

He must be more than what people think he is.

Yes, with all the massive size of the universe, trillions of stars across billions of light years, and yet he is concerned with whether or not somebody mas.turbates.

It's a way of getting rid of the cognitive dissonance (i.e. the guilt for having wronged somebody), without having to deal with the damage to our egos by actually having to apologize to someone.

Reyginus:
Yes. Our science is yet to unravel understand our earth perfectly. Then our universe. The multi-verse we fall in if actually any. Then our galaxy. And the galaxies.

"yet" is the key word here. Science has made amazing progress in the last 200 years. We are now able to explain and do things that our ancestors could only dream about.

DeathStroke007:
you absolutely do not understand the pic messages

Well then the pic has a problem.

Reyginus:
I think creation is bigger than science. Or our science.

Any evidence for this?