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DeathStroke007:
ponder on it

There is no 'who', but rather 'how' it happens. That is the question to ask. We know chemically how it happens and scientists are working on being able to do this in a lab.

OLAJADON:
what are the contraditions post them here if not then you are confused

They are all over the internet. Google is your friend.

Here is one, however:

Referring to the battle of Badr:

"[Remember] when you asked help of your Lord, and He answered you, "Indeed, I will reinforce you with a thousand from the angels, following one another." (Quran 8:9)

"[Remember] when you said to the believers, "Is it not sufficient for you that your Lord should reinforce you with three thousand angels sent down?" (Quran 3:124)

Is it 3000 or 1000? Muhammad is mistaken here.



And no, I am not confused; I've read the entire Quran, thousands of hadith, much of the sirat, and a fair amount of the tafsir ibn Kathir. There is nothing about the Quran that is remotely miraculous.

JackBizzle:
Sometimes, being an atheist can be depressing. Just watch this video...

This is from Fox News, a news channel that caters to fanatical Christians. Anyone being interviewed would be aware of that.

However, take a look at these survey results, conducted by a reputable organization regarding overall happiness, broken down by many things, including country, education level, and religion. This was published not even a month ago. On pages 28 and 29 you will find happiness and religious identification. The non-religious (atheists and agnostics) had the highest levels of net happiness.....

http://www.wingia.com/web/files/richeditor/filemanager/WINGIA_Final_Press_Release_EOY_2015.pdf

CoolUsername:
Shut up and take my money.

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I have no woman but I've been told that I don't look bad in a dress - just saying.

Only $5? God is watching you and knows you could give at least $50. It is January, so 'first fruits' and all....

RaDaZaBaNa:
From a concerned Friend..


...I believe in God but not in Religion ...Am not an atheist...I believe in the supreme being ...an Almighty creator .

However I do not conform with the idea of religion...Christians believe only through Jesus that man can make heaven..Muslim believes theirs is the only way..So are the Other religion and their followers...


please is their a way one can worship God without following any religion ?? ..I acknowledge God but religion is a no for me.

Cc lalasticlala

You can call yourself a deist or a non-religious theist, depending on whether on not you actually believe that this god interferes in human affairs.

Hoothman:
say what you knoweth not....you're so mistaken... I pray Almighty Allah will guide u

Hopefully one day when you are praying you will realise that you are just talking to yourself. Allah is just as real as Zeus, Sango, Olodumare, and all the other myths.

MrAJQ:
I tried seeing the absurdities in QURAN on your recommended site but I end up finding you and the blogger are confuse

Well then maybe the author of the Quran should have taken some writing classes, because the Quran, like the Bible, has plenty of contradictions and errors.

Speechless3:
Pls am too busy for this rigmarole.

If you choose to join in a thread that is expressly directed at atheists, you have to expect to see some pushback from us.

My name is in the Bible as well. I therefore claim to be a prophet. Now give me money and women.

johnydon22:
Have shown him that the one with Faith is the one who certainly has no reason to believe anything at all.

Faith doesn't make anything true no matter how desperately someone wants to believe it, it won't even make it probably true.. That i believe i have a flying horse somewhere outside space and time doesn't make it true...

It simply means i believe it none the less..

So for the OP who employs a mindless position as FAITH in the tales he laid out up there, exercising an insertion of stiff stoic convictions on fairy-tales against reason.

For the fact that FAITH and not evidence is his reason for believing such tales, shows he absolutely has no reason to believe it in the first place

Well said. In real life I have said to believers that I have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow in the west. When they point out how absurd it is I tell them that my faith is so strong that no 'doubting Thomas' can dissuade me from believing. And that moreover they should actually admire my faith.

The Bible is riddled with errors, contradictions, and absurdities.

I recommend the following site for pointing out such errors. The site also has the Quran as well with all of its errors and absurdities.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

johnydon22:
There are posts that just require you face palm and ignore

I seriously cannot understand why the OP would think that his rubbish post would work on an atheist. But I suppose that he has never actually been around us, so that may explain it.

personal59:
Why Is My Hijaab/Niqaab Your Problem?
These days people no longer want to know the rationale behind why we use the veil. They honestly do not care to know, they just want us to humour them, they just want an avenue to sow misguided thoughts into our minds. Enough of being an apologist Muslim already. Why do I have to always explain to anybody why I wear the Hijaab? I do not question you when you make your hair into six different colours, looking like a rainbow, or when you squeeze yourself into those ripped Jean trousers looking like a mad person. Why is my Hijaab suddenly your concern? You said it made me look like an extremist, I tried being 'liberal' by compromising a few times but still, you have decided to remain ignorant. I refuse to be a 'liberal' Muslim if it means being a puppet to your humour shows. I'm sorry if my consistent beliefs seem extreme to you, I simply answer to the Almighty and this servitude requires steadfastness, which you might have no clue about, considering the fact that your 'fashion trends' are always changing and you have to keep up with the trends to seek pseudo-fulfillment from a bunch of males who have objectified you. You say my Hijaab makes me look drab and dirty. I say I'd rather be covered in mud with a heart of gold and purity whiter than untampered snow than be a piece of eye candy to strange men. You say my Hijaab limits my self expression. I'm sorry people actually judge me for what I say and do, and not what I simply look like. You say I might never find a husband. I do not worry because I know Allah has written my beautiful love story before I was even born. You think I not sociable. I was simply not brought up to interact shamelessly with the opposite sex. You say I take my religion too seriously. How can I not? When I know my death is just behind me.
I'd rather be the most faithful servant to Allah, than the most beautiful girl of any pageant. Beauty queens wear their crowns for only a year or two, my reward for faithfulness (Jannah) is FOREVER! This is the greatest deal of all. Do not be enslaved by the glitz and glamour of this world, it'll all fade away in the blink of an eye. Wouldn't you rather be a slave to the King of the worlds? If you are geniunely interested in knowing about my religion, just know me and any other Muslim is more than willing to satisfy your curiosity and guide you towards true fulfillment. Stop worrying about my Hijaab. Start worrying about your Hereafter. #Hijaab‬:OurVeil,OurPride.
help broadcast. .....

It's kind of funny that the person who wrote this complains about being judged when that is all she is doing in this rant.

And for the vast majority of people, the hijab is not a problem, but the niqab is because it hides the face.

And if Allah has indeed written everyone's story before they were born, then the people who are judging you are simply doing what Allah willed them to do.

I have lived a rewarding, fulfilling, and happy life without any belief in religion or any gods.

Religion is not necessary to enjoy life. in fact atheists may even be happier than believers.

Godwin2016:
I have noticed you for a while now... You and your little group of devil worshippers isn’t welcome here. Let the love and message of the Lord filter through you and may you escape from the eternal damnation that you have condemned you and you’re innocent children to. .

Lol, you do realize that the owner of the site is an atheist? How do you decide who is welcome here or not?

And if you do not learn to love Him and His word then you are doomed for ever

So.....love him or he will punish me? What kind of love is that? Your god sounds like a pervert.

DeathStroke007:
what is this one saying... post those Hadith here and I will analyze it

From the Book of Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad) from Sahih Bukhari

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords."

A man came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said, "Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward)." He replied, "I do not find such a deed." Then he added, "Can you, while the Muslim fighter is in the battle-field, enter your mosque to perform prayers without cease and fast and never break your fast?" The man said, "But who can do that?" Abu- Huraira added, "The Mujahid (i.e. Muslim fighter) is rewarded even for the footsteps of his horse while it wanders bout (for grazing) tied in a long rope."

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "A single endeavor (of fighting) in Allah's Cause in the forenoon or in the afternoon is better than the world and whatever is in it."

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Nobody who dies and finds good from Allah (in the Hereafter) would wish to come back to this world even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to the world and get killed again (in Allah's Cause)."

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "By Him in Whose Hands my life is! Were it not for some men amongst the believers who dislike to be left behind me and whom I cannot provide with means of conveyance, I would certainly never remain behind any Sariya' (army-unit) setting out in Allah's Cause. By Him in Whose Hands my life is! I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred.

A man came to the Prophet (ﷺ) and asked, "A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?" The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause."

DeathStroke007:
SMH.. ain't get time.. no b today we don dey see fake hadith and Quran verses from Christian

I'd at least like to know why you think sunnah.com is fake.

And please direct me to another website which has both Bukhari's and Muslim's full hadith collection online.

Godwin2016:
Do you want to be washed in the blood of the Lamb, or do you think you can keep sinning and go unpunished? Repent before it is too late. I love you all and want you in heaven with the children of God in Paradise. Please Pleatton,Hahn,ifenes,Johnydon22,others...accept Jesus before it is too late. Do not question God,please open your heart and accept him.

Sorry to tell you, but the scientists and engineers who have already gone to hell have created central air-conditioning and the place is a nice even 23 degrees.

This is great, but it is more for humanists than atheists (although many humanists are also atheist). Atheism has no creed or dogma, unlike humanism.

Chibuzoc:
The following are some of the key facts about Quran.


* Quran was revealed to Prophet Muhammad as the final word from God (Allah).

* Quran was revealed on Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) over a period of 23 years.

* The verses and chapters in the Quran were revealed depending on the various incidents that occurred during the life time of Prophet Muhammad. The whole idea was to reinforce Quranic teachings in the life of Muslims and make it more practical for them to follow. For example, prior to the revelation of Quran, people used to drink alcohol. The first verses of the Quran prohibited Muslims not to pray while they are intoxicated (as they do not know what they are praying). However, later, verses were revealed that completely prohibited alcohol for Muslims. Allah mentioned in the Quran that the harms inflicted by drinking alcohol are far more than its benefits.
http://042blogstar..com.ng/2016/01/what-is-quran-koran-facts-about-quran.html

For each of these you should put "Muslims believe that..." at the beginning because the Quran being 'revealed' is not a fact, rather a belief held by Muslims. Non-Muslims generally believe that Muhammad composed the Quran himself, possibly with help from his companions.

fedex01:
I live in the United States--over here, almost all of the major scholars and scientists agree that bible isn't the word that can be attributed to god. Bible has been corrupted. We have hard evidence of that. There are thousands of mistakes within bible passages and difference bible manuscripts say different things. How to know which one is truth? No idea cuz we can't say which is right and which is wrong.

I wouldn't say the Bible is corrupted because the whole story was made up in the first place. There is no true 'myth', therefore any version can be considered correct. Jesus, if he existed, was just a guy who claimed to be the messiah, like some other people who made the same claim. But all this other stuff about virgin birth and miracles and 'son of god' is just nonsense.

DeathStroke007:
I won't follow you argue.. Post those hadith here.. And I will post the correct hadith here.. No be today una dey change quran verses and hadith to suit your claims na



And the last hadith you quoted.. What's the verse and its book.. So as to verify

Just follow the link and look for yourself, there are dozens of hadiths. And the last hadith is on the same link.

It looks like you have been browsing some atheist pages somewhere. Good for you!

If you agree with the content of these memes, then I'd say you are pretty close to an atheist, or maybe a deist or agnostic.

tartar9:
its simple use of language to describe the expanse of the earth.the descriptive word use there was 'spread out',that isn't suppose to describe the shape of anything but rather its expanse,like I said before,the verse wasn't interpreted by Islamic scholars or tasfirs of more than a thousand years ago to mean the earth was flat.why not show me something as explicit like the four corners of the earth as used in the bible

The problem is that the Quran is so vague that it doesn't actually say either way that the earth is flat or round. If, in reality, the earth were actually flat then you could interpret the Quran in such a way to prove that the Quran was correct. So, whether the earth is flat or round, the Quran confirms either one.


By the way, don't be too sure that the Tafsir ibn-Kathir gets it right:

Quran 2:22 "Who has made the earth your couch, and the heavens your canopy; and sent down rain from the heavens; and brought forth therewith Fruits for your sustenance; then set not up rivals unto Allah when ye know (the truth)."

Quran 2:29 "He it is Who created for you all that is in the earth. Then turned He to the heaven, and fashioned it as seven heavens. And He is knower of all things"

Here is the interpretation given by Ibn Kathir: "These Ayat indicate that Allah started creation by creating earth, then He made heaven into seven heavens. This is how building usually starts, with the lower floors first and then the top floors"

This is not suggestive of a spherical earth. In any case the 'heavens' existed long before the earth, not the other way around. Both the Quran and ibn Kathir are wrong.

DeathStroke007:
.... To clear your misunderstanding on jihad.. Jihad never means killing .. In islam, jihad means doing good deeds.. Helping other people in their needs..

Just a quick question. If jihad is not about war then why is this chapter (link below) from Sahih Bukhari called "Book of Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)"? Look at the hadiths. Virtually all of them are about war and fighting and it is very clear that jihad refers to fighting/war. If jihad was not essentially about fighting, then why are so many of these hadiths about just that?

http://www.sunnah.com/bukhari/56

Also while looking at this I found a cool hadith: "Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said "If there is any evil omen in anything, then it is in the woman, the horse and the house." Nice to see what he thought of women.

I've known a couple of people kind of like this

Two things:

One, I would not share a bed with a naked man--tell him to put something on.

Second, he should not be sitting on any furniture (chair or sofa) without wearing boxers or some other shorts. It's just not clean. I have some friends who let their little kids sit on their sofa naked (usually watching TV whilst waiting to take their bath), and I will not sit on that sofa. Plastic chair for me please.

But if he wants to stroll around for a few minutes while he is drying off after a bath--no problem. I don't see any threat to you--he probably isn't gay, he just does not see nudity the same way you do.

Good songs by Bowie:

Let's Dance
Young Americans
Changes
Space Oddity
Ashes to Ashes (really cool video)
China Girl
Ziggy Stardust (my favourite)
Heroes
Suffragette City


RIP

JasmineKayla:
The college of Wheaton, an evangelical college in Illinois, is reportedly planning to sack and Associate professor of Political Science over a controversial statement she made via Facebook. According to confirmed reports, Larycia Hawkins been placed on administrative leave after posting a comment on Facebook, saying that Muslims and Christians worship the same God.

Read the rest of the article here--> http://www.trendingpost.co.ke/2016/01/school-to-fire-professor-for-saying-christians-and-muslims-worship-same-god.html

Discuss this article people, its the move justified?

The professor is right in the sense that neither exist. However, they are different myths.

Photos of white 'leaders' posing with African children are very common. I wonder when we will have a photo of an African leader posing with a bunch of white children?

Next time Buhari goes to the UK he should visit a school in a white area and take a picture with the kids.

Love among Muslims but not for non-Muslims, in fact it is discouraged to socialize with non-Muslims, except to promote Islam.

"O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliya' (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), they are but Auliya' to one another. And if any amongst you takes them as Auliya', then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers and unjust)." ~Quran 5:51

Here is the tafsir (explanation) of the above verse from ibn-Kathir, one of the most respected of all the explainers of the Quran:

Allah forbids His believing servants from having Jews and Christians as friends, because they are the enemies of Islam and its people, may Allah curse them. Allah then states that they are friends of each other and He gives a warning threat to those who do this, ('And if any among you befriends them, then surely he is one of them.') Ibn Abi Hatim recorded that `Umar ordered Abu Musa Al-Ash`ari to send him on one sheet of balance the count of what he took in and what he spent. Abu Musa then had a Christian scribe, and he was able to comply with `Umar's demand. `Umar liked what he saw and exclaimed, "This scribe is proficient. Would you read in the Masjid a letter that came to us from Ash-Sham'' Abu Musa said, `He cannot.'' `Umar said, "Is he not pure'' Abu Musa said, "No, but he is Christian.'' Abu Musa said, "So `Umar admonished me and poked my thigh (with his finger), saying, `Drive him out (from Medina).' He then recited, "(O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as friends...)"

Obviously many Muslims do not abide by this and freely make friends with non-Muslims, but the Quran cannot be ignored, especially when it is explained like this in one of the most respected tafsirs.

urheme:
Op your problem is actually an insane one, you have a serious medical condition, you need medical attention from an expert doctor in this field.

I agree. This is not a spiritual problem, this is a mental disorder. OP should really go and talk to a psychologist and not a pastor.

Shafiiimran99:
What did he say against Prophet Muhammad S.A.W for him to deserve death penalty

It is believed that he said that Shaykh Ibrahima Niasse, the Senegalese tijaniya sufi leader, was bigger than Muhammad.