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Great!
Am in support of this challenge!
Worth doing though i started since the day i stopped tithing!
God bless U Mr freeze!

In saner climes,that transport company called Peace mass should have been sued and made to pay for damages to the passengers whether dead or alive....They might even have their licences temporarily seized until they recruit sane and professional drivers.....

But here in africa,esp nigeria,the victims only thank God for delivering them from a road accident....whether people died or not is not their concern....
When are we going to realize that this is beyond prayers and action is neededto stop this recurring problem in nigeria!

If we don't take action towards solving these frequent incidents,i wont be surprised if there are still more accidents waiting to happen!

Am not trying to be pessimist but i have lived long enough to know that this nation and authorities are not proactive in their approach to disasters...and this mindset has rubbed off on the mentality of most Nigerians..This is why bad things keep happening in naija bacause we are too lazy to speak out!

Acidosis:
The mistake you people make is to assume that paying tithes and offerings hinders people from helping the needy.

Fact is, whether Christians give everything or not, poverty won't end so stop blackmailing people using their own sweat as instruments.

You're not in any position to tell them what to do with their money whether Nigerians are dying of hunger or not.

Its obvious U haven't read the scriptures i presented...shows U are not ready to learn! What a pity!

Acidosis:
The mistake you people make is to assume that paying tithes and offerings hinders people from helping the needy.

The reason that led U to this conclusion is that U failed to study the scriptures i presented to U....or are U reading based on what Ur pastor says?

Acidosis:
Fact is, whether Christians give everything or not, poverty won't end so stop blackmailing people using their own sweat as instruments.

This statement of urs is not in any way christ-inspired!
We may not end poverty but we can reduce it to its bearest minimum using what God has blessed us with to make an impact in our own way!

For crying out loud,Are U are the light of the world?
A Christ ambassador?
A hope for the world?
Are U not blessed to be a blessing?
Are U not empowered to prosper people with what U have been blessed with?

Why allow atheists and non-christians to take ur position or place when it comes to helping and giving to the needy when U are meant to outdo atheists!


While most pastors are busy building more churches at different locations all over the world,atheists are building companies that will help take the man or woman off the streets!

What an irony!

If not for the likes of zuckerberg or bill and melissa gates or warren buffet and other known philanthropists who are not even believers,africa would have been doomed or sold out on olx!
And no one is blackmailing U....its there in the bible!
If u are a bible reading christian,U cud have started reading those scriptures and stop relying on ur own understanding!

Acidosis:
You're not in any position to tell them what to do with their money whether Nigerians are dying of hunger or not.

Like i said....there is no one not even freeze is compelling U or any one about what U want to do with ur money!
but Its only baffling and amazing that U read the scriptures every day but U hardly do what it says...is that called disobedience?

ebenholer:
Here is where Freeze got it wrong again; u dont need tithes money to feed the poor but to God as to His servant. It is unbiblical to begin to inquire how the money u give in church/mosque(to God) is spent. African level of poverty can ever cause this. Give out of 90% with u to d poor, I think will be rightful to do this

Its not like freeze is talking from his own understanding or quoting from a different bible other than the one you have!
If U dont tithe based on Deuteronomy 14:22-29 and Deuteronomy 26:12-13,then U are not obeying God's instructions but that of ur pastor!
Ur bible is not different from mine or that of freeze or that of ur pastor...just pick it up and see for urself if what freeze is saying is true or false!

Acidosis:
So the tithe against poverty challenge is about sending money to daddy freeze to give to the poor?


I would rather give my money to a fat-fed pastor than give it to daddy freeze





Nigerians are real sheepies! How can a nonentity tell you all what to do with the money you laboured for?? I am already imagining the millions daddy freeze will make from the #freethesheeple crew. They're the real sheeple.

Sheeples trying to free "sheeples"

If you actually read what he said....He asked that U use ur tithe to HELP some close to You!
Which i think is really a great idea and has bible scriptures to back it up!

Imagine if Ur tithe can take a child to school every day or help empower a needy person or help offset the bills of sick patient at the hospital or pay the house rent of some one who is owing a backlog due to unpaid salaries or pensions!

Imagine if ur tithe and that of others are channeled towards the good of mankind,no single person in Nigeria would go hungry or without shelter...Just imagine the amount of unbelievers that will convert to become believers due to this generous effort!

Remember that it will be difficult and hopeless to preach to someone who is hungry or has no means of survival!

That is the challenge freeze is talking about!

He never asked that U give him money to give to the poor!

Go back and listen to what he said!
Remember that he who gives to the poor and needy lends to God!

Achorise:
If Freeze is against tith, as against bible instructions, why don't you obey God to the fullest.
Now you are asking for the Same tithe for the poor, is obedience not better than sacrifice ?
Nigerian are so gullible.
if someone comes now and support gay, divorce and premarital sex, Nigerians will still support him.
I'm watching, after tithe I will see the next area of attack against the church of God and his servants.

I think Mr freeze quoted portions from the bible to validate his stand while some agitated pastors keep making threats and running in circles rather than countering the scriptures presented!
I don't also see where freeze made any reference out of the bible...
Going by Deuteronomy 14:22-29 and Deuteronomy 26:12-13,Can you say with all Honesty say that most pastors are being obedient?

ime2010:
#TitheAgainstPoverty TAP Challenge By Daddy Freeze[/b]

Why There Is No Room For Tithing In The New Covenant! ~FRZ

Eradicated Poverty with your tithe rather than feeding an already fat-fed GO.



@daddyfreeze I strongly disagree with you on this tithe movement. I have carefully review the videos and interview and I think you are misleading people. Firstly, there were 2 Order of Priesthood - Aaronic Priesthood and Melchisedec Priesthood [Heb 7: 1-28]. The present church is NOT following Aaronic, but Melchisedec Priesthood. For tithing, there MUST be a Priest to receive the tithe. For the present day church, the biblical tribe does NOT count... whether Levite (Aaron) or Juda (Jesus), because there is NO record of Melchisedec tribe, but he received tithe as a Priest. If Abraham paid tithe to Melchisedec, his natural and spiritual seed should continue to pay tithe to this priesthood since it now replace the Aaronic priesthood (v 9-21). Is the first priest of the Melchisedec order the only on to receive tithe? Should God require tithing under this priesthood at the first and then discontinue it when Christ became a priest under this order? Does grace lessen the obligation of man OR increases it? Has this priesthood come to a self-supporting place, where it needs nothing from those under it benefits? Was it right that Abraham paid tithe to this priesthood and for melchisedec to receive them for his support? If it was right then, could it be wrong now to continue this same programe? Should a mere typical priesthood be supported and not the eternal priesthood itself? Awaiting you kind response

Going by melchezedek priesthood let me ask U
U are indirectly saying that Abraham was OBLIGATED by God to pay tithe to Melchizedek
Therefore,there must be a LAW or COMMANDMENT
If that is case,what LAW OBLIGATED Abraham to TITHE?
God COMMANDED BURNT OFFERINGS AND CIRCUMCISION FOR ABRAHAM AND FAMILY...WHY WAS THE BIBLE SILENT ON A VERY SERIOUS PRINCIPLE AS TITHE?

Secondly,the similarity of the priesthood of Jesus to the priesthood of Melchizedek is based on three facts
1.Being priest for ever(Hebrews 7:3)
2.Not on a basis of a regulation in other words,not on a platform of a law or commandment(Hebrews 7:16)

However,there are distinctions between the priesthood of Jesus and that of Melchizedek
1.There was an OATH which declared Christ as a high priest(Hebrews 7:20-22
2.He became a guarantor of a better covenant(Hebrews 7:22)
3.Able to intercede(Hebrews 7:25)
4.Christ has ascended to heaven unlike other priest including Melchizedek(Hebrews 4:14;Hebrews 7:26)
5.Christ is the only priest that offered himself as a sacrifice once for all(Hebrews 7:27)
6.Christ did not offer a gift or sacrifice,hence cannot also receive gifts and sacrifices like that of the law(Hebrews 7:27;Hebrews 8:3-4)

I keep saying it but people won't listen....
Yes pray to God but..
But prayers without action is like faith without deeds!
I repeat God can not do for U what he has empowered or equipped U to do for yourself!

...warn the driver not to be reckless....
There is no duplicate to life!
Please my people shout,yell or rack...Whatever U can do to call the driver to order....
Sum drivers are psychologically sick in the head!
while some are trying to make excess money due to the season!

Hence they keep over speeding and sending people to their early grave!
Most of these drivers care less about Ur life...hence they must be cautioned!

Frsc can not do it alone...
We can't keep allowing youths to die before their time!
Enough is Enough!

maxwell530:
lol....fanatic keh?

The funniest thing is that am not a man city fan but I love and admire a quality team when I see one.

okay

sprintscr7:
I watched Gareth Barry said something in his interview another evergreen player like Andrea pirlo who at 35 then was still playing every match he never dropped form..he said now that he is 36 he can't recover like while he was still younger that then it takes 2-3 days to recover then he is back in shape but now its 3-4 days..so what is strong with Morata and co that they cannot play 6 matches - 8 matches in 30 days in one one month divide 30/8 u have 3 and half days to rest any player complaining of fatigue level must be very stupid only if the coach plays u 90 after 90 minutes.. fergie did not rest ronaldo mourinho even hates it why does he have to rest pogba.. barca did not rest messi until now velvearde is slightly doing it with brain...u play 70 minutes as a player today next match 90 minutes next match 65 minutes next match 75 minutes then u complain of fatigue the player must be very stupid somebody 30 below complaining of fatigue is stupid and foolish... u don't play football so u don't know they have fitness expert who adjust their training regime if u don't know ibrahimovic doesn't rest same with Eto'o u can never become a world class if u don't play every game period Xavi Hernandez Pirlo Scholes never missed matches they play every time if they don't play u see it on their faces...bros I played football I understand if u don't play week in week out u won't be able to maintain ur physical shape if u keep resting with all this rotation u won't be in shape... I still repeat any coach rotating key players below 25 years whether injury prone or not is very stupid..u can rotate ur full backs its acceptable cuz they cover a lot the pitch..

Bro I understand ur point but I must let U know that players are different and may need different measure to keep them in shape to avoid fatigue or injury....
let's take d case of morata....
Morata played against Newcastle,played against atletico and still played against west ham for full 90mins...even before these matches he has been playing....
Am sure u have heard d news that morata is now injured!

comparing players with others will totally be unfair...
Yes Every player no matter the stress level would want to play all matches but wat will it profit a coach to consistently field a player then lose him to a long-term injury!
Its up to the coach to manage every one and ensure dere is enough rest for every one....
The season is long and the last thing a coach needs now is an injury to his top players..

See what happened to Liverpool last season after it was announced that mane was not going to play till the end of the season....such news affected the team performance and if not by some stroke of luck,Liverpool would have been out of the top 4....

U used the pirlo example and I said pirlo plays for the Italian league that has a less demanding fixture..If juventus for instance have a champions league game on Tuesday,the Italian fa will reschedule deir match for Friday in order to give players enough days of rest..The league does play matches during Christmas period and resume late next year!
This is in stack contrast to the English premiership where players only go on break after the end of the season!

Leagues in France,Italy,Spain and German have very suitable league schedules unlike the English premiership!
That's why a pirlo or kaka can play all matches in all competition.... but let pirlo try it in the prem.....He won't only lose form but also visit the treatment table regularly!

Why would U date a guy that U are neither in love with or physically attracted to?

And why are U double dating....?
Have U told the guy abroad that U have some one else in ur life?

U are complicating ur life by trying to be too smart....
U are dating two guys at the same time and U want to know which is beta for U?

Why no quit one guy and focus on the one U like cos its obvious U just dated the doctor for dating sake and not becos U have any feelings for him(This analysis is based on what U have written)

The guy u r chatting with...have u seen him?
aside chatting,have U interacted with him physically?
Just because is cool online doesn't translate to being mature or responsible!

As for the doc,aside the s.ex part,if U dont love him or what he is looking for,please let him go....!

maxwell530:
all I see in your comment is "bad belle" as some nairalanders do say....
Is this the first time man city will be winning the league?is this the first time guardiola will be winning the league in his career? If any manager should know the pressure that comes to winning the league ,it should be pep. Nearly all the players in city current squad were league winners and they already have the winning mentality which is also good considering how winning mentality has dealt a huge blow on some teams that lack the winning mentality I.e Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham.



And besides there's no mind games that can win mou league this time around, at least guardiola won treble with barca at the expense of mou at Madrid, his supposed mind games couldn't get Madrid to the UCL final after 3attempts.



If Manuel pellegrini could win the league with more inferior squad compared with this current city squad that has replacement for every position and bossed by a proven winner(pep) and you still think the league is not theirs, then I give up on you.

lol....U are being too over zealous about ur club and sadly U are even taking the matter serious as if it will pay U if Manchester city wins the league....

I don't see any bad belle in my opinion....
What we are doing is a fair analysis of Manchester city and U r making it personal as if U will given a pound for defending Manchester city....lol

U sud be thanking me for being honest about ur team not to take things for granted....or get carried away...Now that's more like a fair warning....but No u would rather allow ur fanatism to cloud ur sense of judgement!

I have made two statements which I feel is valid!
Don't count on ur key players staying without injury till d end of the season.....same can be said about other teams!


and don't count ur chickens before they are hatched...U have 22 matches to play....a lot can happen from now till may 2018!

maxwell530:
Bro, i gave you 2 examples of teams that won the league in the same fashion city are doing now and I also gave you 2 examples of teams that lost the league due to their lack of playing the way city are currently doing.......



I almost forgot, You are a Liverpool fan, a team that always score 7 needless goals and gave away important goals when necessary, you can never understand what am saying, so its needless telling you this

Ur postulation count for nothing if there are no back up plans....
Let take man city as case study....
Last season,there were on a 10 game unbeaten run....had a healthy point lead ahead of d nearest team,the media was all over them and were about to crown them champions even before the league had been concluded by January....

All of a sudden,de bryne got injured,aguero lost form... players that were meant to replace them were not performing well...and they went on a free fall....from title contenders to top 4 challengers....their only saving grace was the introduction of Gabriel Jesus who came on January and made an out of sorts aguero to stay on the bench!
By the time de bryne had come back to form,Chelsea had already held a firm grip on the title....

If history has ever thought man city a lesson.....to not take things for granted and just believe an 11 point lead is a good lead.....

Forget about mourinho conceding d title to man city...that can be a quiet but effective mind game which none of the fans are observing.....

So don't get too carried away....my advise is to wait till January...If they are still maintaining that lead den d league!

I almost forgot, You are a Liverpool fan, a team that always score 7 needless goals and gave away important goals when necessary, you can never understand what am saying, so its needless telling you this

lol...smh
Ohh pls stop being petty and childish.... my support for Liverpool doesn't make me a fanatic..

Whether Liverpool wins or loses does not change my bank account or lifestyle or put food on my table!

win or lose,there is a paycheck waiting for the players of which am not part of....so why sud I be carrying club matter on my head like U? lol

..and besides We ain't talking about Liverpool....but man city!
And we ain't talking about bragging rights here....
My team is doing fine and am proud of where they are....lol

maxwell530:
there's nothing aggressive in my comment
I quoted based on your comments especially about de Byrne staying fit unlikely, I wouldn't have quote you if you didn't mention that, de bryne can get injured in the course of the league but him staying fit is tru out the season is very likely too. If a player like azpilicueta can start 90 consecutive matches for Chelsea with playing 90mins in all the matches can stay fit, I don't see how you will think de Byrne staying fit is "unlikely"

Bro U can't compare two different players with each oda....one plays in d defence anoda plays in the midfield....
azpilicueta is a defender compared to de Byrne!

Such thinking is really baseless....
I just told U three things can happen to de Byrne or any other player if the coach keeps fielding him in every match...which is loss of form,exhaustion and injury which U agreed to...So I don't see any need to prolong the argument(since u have agreed that he might get injured) unless U just want to argument for the sake of it!
The likes of de Byrne or any other key player of a team will get a burn out or get injured if they are not replaced or rested due to d demands of an overloaded league fixture! Period!

maxwell530:
do you know there was a time last season that all Chelsea needed was 1 goal from Costa to win, there was a time in 2015 that all Leicester needed was a single goal from either vardy or mahrez for them to win. That is the mentality of a champion, the more reason I already gave the league to city already cuz only champions play that way. That was what Liverpool was lacking in 2013,imagine drawing a match with Crystal palace after leading by 3 goals.... Man utd could've easily won the league last season if only they could avoid the last minutes goals they always conceded, imagine 13 draws in a single season and these draws were always 1:1, they were always the first to score sef, pls tell me who has ever won the league in that fashion?

U keep making references to clubs forgetting all clubs have a different approach....
Cant U guys get it that All U need for this mancity to fall is for people like to keep calling them the next champions!
And when U least expect it,A loss takes place.....
I can never be sure until the margin is too wide for any one to catch up with them!

maxwell530:
I swear, your head is not correct, how can you say debryne staying fit till the end of the season is unlikely, am sure you were one of the fans that expect ngolo kante to get injured last season so that you can capitalize on that but unfortunately for you, Kante was 100% fit tru out the 2 seasons he won the league back2back with Leicester and Chelsea, am sure you will say its "unlikely" at the beginning of 2015 when Leicester did the unthinkable.

Please mind ur trashy words...behave like a matured person thats if U are one!
our arguments or opinions here will neither give us money or make us wealthy,hence mind ur unguarded words and get a hold of ur emotions...

Back to the discussion.....

If de bryne keeps playing all matches for in all competition esp with these congested english fixtures ,He will surely burn out,lose form or get INJURED!

I understand why U are getting aggressive with ur words but whether de bryne stays fit or gets injured isnt going to put food on ur table
So stop getting emotional and focus on sum thing beta after-all,whether mancity wins the title or not will neither improve ur life or ur bank account...Comprendo?

einsteine:
Man city will win the league. Even if they lose a few matches, the fact is that their opponents too would also lose matches. There is nothing about getting carried away here. In fact, they would set a points record. You can bet on it.

Okay till may 2018...

osazsky:
yeah fergie is now city coach, leave the best for the last so as to cause maximum damage on the mentality of our rivals .do u know wat it takes after been hopeful of sometin and at d dying moment you were disappointed, it affects ur mentality of other teams so they tend to perform bad in there next game with d thought of city not getting a draw , just like wat aguero did to Man u, aguuueeeeeeroooooooo I can still remember d commentary

Yeah right!

osazsky:
not with Dis current squad am sure u havnt watch any of their games if not u wouldn't b saying this,only PSG can stop city from wining d EPL,dats if day are allowed to come join EPL team. I rest my case here

I have watched alltheir games including their last minute victory against southy and huddy!
Am still insistent that mancity dont get carried away like last season....Cos lightning may just strike twice!

osazsky:
OK inconsistent Liverpool who couldn't keep a 3 -0 lead against sevila in d UCL and 3-0 lead against crystal palace that cost the EPL some years back . thks to chelsea

Well did we qualify after that collapse ? Yes and yes!
Like I said don't count ur chickens before they are hatched!
Any thing can happen.....
Last season Manchester city were on a 10 game unbeaten run and when injury and loss of form set in,Man city went on a down ward slope....

If there is anything that fans of Manchester city should never forget is the mistakes of last season when they got carried away....

History is now repeating itself and man city are getting carried away esp the fans!

Just pray that ur key players de Byrne stay fit till the end of d season! and dats highly unlikely!

osazsky:
loose to who na Swansea? then wat makes u think u will win ur remains 22 games why city go lose their remains games

lol...am not only referring to Swansea only....like U said,there are 22 plus games remaining....so don't count ur chickens before they are hatched!
And for ur info am #LFC fan!

What if after celebrating,man city goes on a free fall and lose that position and at the end of the season end up winning nothing....Now that will be really humiliating!
Cos it will make them a laughing stock!

Its not over until it is over....

Whoever told Tottenham who were 3rd a month ago that they will be dragging 5th position with arsenal?

11 points is nothing until its practically impossible for others to catch up with them!

one day we will hear a pastor say he was practically n.aked before he became a pastor!
This narrative is getting stale and weak!

larrybee2017:
The last time I checked with your doctor I was told your drugs were actually administer to you and you are alright but I think you need to go back.
When has my decision become your headache? If I choose to pay my money to my church how does that make you sick and unreasonable? Do you get it here: it's my money paid to my church to appreciate my God. What has that got to do with YOU.
No wonder we have many imbicile in our society always thinking for others.
Since you stopped paying has God been anything less than God?

lol...U don't have to be aggressive just to prove ur point my madame!

And no madame...Make absolutely no logic cos it has nothing to do with tithe....I guess U are the one who seriously needs to make an appointment with ur doc!

I thought the scriptures I presented would have motivated U to open ur bible esp the scriptures I quoted or even engage me to defend or prove ur own convictions about tithe but alas U just gave me more reasons to believe ur highlighted statement below which u are doing unknowingly....

No wonder we have many imbicile in our society always thinking for others.

I guess this statement of urs is indirectly describing U and tithers....Too bad!

Felixalex:
I said it in the morning, his careless post indirectly declared his father's church as a business venture.

Silence they say is golden!


Wisdom is profitable to direct

He never read that part for Bible

U are absolutely right...It shows that he is also a signatory to the same account!

WotzupNG:
Daddy Freeze responds to claims by Pastor Adeboye's son, Leke Adeboye, that RCCG has witnessed a huge increased in all endeavours of the Church since he started criticizing them.
Daddy Freeze, in a video response, congratulates Leke Adeboye on the expansion of their family business and believes he will surely inherit a blue chip company in future.

Watch the video below.

http://www.purplefeel.com/2017/12/daddy-freeze-replies-pastor-adeboyes-son-leke-adeboye.html




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr011-FSeZ0&feature=youtu.be

SAVAGE LEVEL: AD INFINITUM

larrybee2017:
If only many use their brain!! Here is a simple analogy. Yu want to become rich by force the devil say bring blood that becomes your tithe. You sleep in cemeteries and make love to a mad woman to keep it flowing,he keep his promise by given you what you can't enjoy. Of what headache is that to me when it is your choice?
My maker says to keep the 90% from being wasted and devoured bring just ten that now becomes your stress?! You are sick and needs urgent attention. So go get it

This analogy of urs is indirectly depicting God your loving and faithful father "like" a native doc who needs ur 10% to keep ur 90% from being devoured!

Most of U still don't understand or have an idea about who this God U claim to serve really is....

So U believe ur pastor who says the same God who FREELY gave U wealth will take it away from U because of 10% of Ur income?

So U also believe ministers who say U will become poor when U don't tithe?

Until U start reading the bible by urself and stop relying on the daily devotionals that constitute half truths and lies,U will never be able to grow spiritually in the things of God!

God doesn't receive or needs ur money!

Go and read Ur bible carefully.... not just Malachi 3:10-12
but Deuteronomy 14:22-29,Matthew 25:31-46..

Remain blessed

Since u r a faithful tither,why are U tithing based on the instructions of ur pastors and not that of the bible?

The bible says eat ur tithe in simple English but U disobediently and indirectly say God is lying and U give ur tithe,not to Levite's,but to Pastors and ministers!

Why are U disobeying God's word?

A pastor once said tithes are not for the poor...but Deuteronomy 14:22-29 says otherwise....

A G.O from a popular church said tithe started from Genesis 14 but they cunningly go back and use Malachi 3:10-12 after he claimed tithing is not by law!

Finally a Tither said when he pays tithe,he gives to God...and I ask....have U come across Matthew 25 where the lord said when U give,or help the least of ur brothers,U actually did it for God!

My dear brothers and sisters who tithe,please drop ur arrogance and read the bible.....

Let God and his word remain right and True while others be wrong and false!

sprintscr7:
answer this question how do become a world class if ur coach keeps rotating u...answer oo

U can still be a world class player and still score if U are in good condition....The rotation will even help recover ur energy and make u play beta.....

A very good instance was wen salah was on the bench against stoke....but as he came in,he scored 2 goals as a sub!

sprintscr7:
why didn't c ronaldo gerrad kuyt rooney.. matic azipilicueta lukaku ibrahimovic david luiz kane sterling burn out..have u ever played football and I said am done but this ur comment really deserve answer..answer this question how do become a world class if ur coach keeps rotating u...answer oo

Am glad u mentioned the likes of lukaku...
How many goals has he scored so far in all competition in d last 2 months?
Has lukaku been performing very well week in week out?

Zidane had to stomach sum guts to put ronaldo on the bench last season when he wasn't playing well due to burn out or loss of form or injury....

And besides,the Spanish league is not as congested or over loaded like d prem!
during Christmas,ronaldo is relaxing with family while players from the prem are playing....

These players ain't super humans....Do U think its easy to play premier league(a congested league) and champions league...then head to ur country and play international matches?

Bro even if U have been playing soccer,from the womb,U can't stand the stress esp if u r a key player for country and club!

Its funny u mentioned Gerard because he had to play almost every match for his club and country without replacement,and what was the result?
He keeps going in and out of form just like Torres did...
Injury set in and he didn't play some key games which we eventually lost or drew!

The other players u mentioned at one point in time could not cope with the tight schedule hence dey had loss of form or injury caved in!

in conclusion, I would like to inform u that there are some appeals to review the congested fixture and lower the burden on star players who sadly have to play week in week out to satisfy their insatiable fans!