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PoliticsRe: Update on developments in Anambra state-photos by OreMI22: 2:33pm On Jul 07, 2021
The Emergency Operations Center (EOC) & Clinic is getting ready.

I love the fact they decided to use tiles instead of painting the walls! Top-notch high-quality stuff as usual! I see they are also not forgetting landscaping around the building.

Igboson, I'm sure you would like that! grin

PoliticsRe: Reno Omokri: I Regret Supporting Nnamdi Kanu, IPOB by OreMI22:
Nnamdi Kanu was a megalomaniac. It is exactly what has led to this downfall. In a way, I am happy he paid the price for foolish carelessness with his personal safety so that future "leaders" of the struggle will not be so careless.

How could he be so careless to take himself to a country like Kenya? He could very well have also gone to Togo, Niger, Chad, or Uganda! It is so sad that people had so much hope in him to address the decades of injustice they suffered. Anyhow, he was never a true leader in the true sense of it. he was a good orator but lacked the strategic reasoning and wisdom required to defeat a masterful cunning python like the Fulani caliphate.
PropertiesRe: Anambra Marks Structures Along Airport Road For Demolition (Photos) by OreMI22: 1:22pm On Jul 06, 2021
This is excellent news. Not just remove the structures, those that put them up must pay fines before any plan is approved for the area again.

I don't know why people can never get approval to build! Worse still, they always build so close to the road! Some even build on top of the drainage gutter and block it. You wonder why black Africans believe slumming every location equates to "development"
PoliticsRe: Update on developments in Anambra state-photos by OreMI22: 10:16pm On Jul 04, 2021
Those who are close to the Governor should tell him to build a 4-5 star hotel within the Awka International Conference center (ICC) compound. The space at the right side of the compound can fit a hotel the size of Agulu Lake hotel which measures about 90 feet by 280 feet.

They can even go into partnership with a private establishment to build the right type and quality of hotel needed in that compound. The remaining land for the garden and car park will still be more than enough for the facility.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEIz03gIMnE&t=427s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYcqPqJaW4

PoliticsRe: Reno Omokri: Nnamdi Kanu Showed Extreme Carelessness By Going To Kenya by OreMI22: 9:09pm On Jul 03, 2021
OurBusinessIsPr:
Reno Omokri barred it all.

He was not happy that Mazi nnamdi Kanu Sold out himself so cheap like a rat to be captured .

He said nnnamdi Kanu should face the full music of his careless actions ..


Listen...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uu9iR8tXCk

So true! I hope MNK deliberately wanted to hand himself over. Else, this action of going to a notoriously corrupt country like Kenya beats any type of logic whatsoever for a man as smart as MNK.
PoliticsRe: Update on developments in Anambra state-photos by OreMI22:
GitmoAuditors:
Demonic night owl is hovering, I decided to be awake to see the night owl hahahaha
What kills them is that they thought the usual shoddy way that southeast governors typically built the worst quality facility in the region would apply here.

The average mentality of a southeast governor is that standard world-class facilities should only be found in Lagos, Abuja or Port Harcourt. While anything in the southeast region should be a village standard facility.

Obiano totally shocked them in this project! Not just that he built a standard dual-carriage accessway as is the standard globally, he built a standard toll gatehouse, water systems, dedicated power access, control tower, terminal building, parking lot for hundreds of cars, and a runway of a whopping 3.7KM! Not to mention ILS and CAT 2 night landing lights, CAT 9 Fire station with truly modern plane crash fire fighting trucks/ equipment, medical facility, and even spaces for MRO and Nigerian airforce base!

They are still dazed how Obiano had the guts and determination to deliver a truly global-QUALITY facility that none of them expected in this clime.

PoliticsRe: I Want Obiano Assasinated , Anambra State Razed Down- Nnamdi Kanu by OreMI22: 6:44pm On Jul 02, 2021
FAKE FULANI NEWS PLANTED BY DSS!
PoliticsRe: Heartless: When Would Fulanis Apologise For The People They Have Killed by OreMI22: 2:53pm On Jul 01, 2021
vodimov:
yes this country is gone
It is inching closer to a blood bath. All the brakes being applied to get to a point that people will take the battle to the Fulani is being eroded or removed by the Fulani. Nigeria will get to the bus stop of confrontation at the desired time. Let them continue deluding themselves that the people will just fold their hands and become Fulani slaves forever.
PoliticsRe: BREAKING: We Are Not Involved In Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest - INTERPOL by OreMI22: 9:52pm On Jun 30, 2021
In that case it was a unilateral action of the Kenyan government?
PoliticsRe: Nnamdi Kanu Was Arrested In Kenya - Brother, Emmanuel Kanu by OreMI22: 6:09pm On Jun 30, 2021
LOL... the same usual place where Africans are shown pepper!
What on earth made MNK visit such a place?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOs_LiFnn-w
PoliticsRe: IPOB Finally Reveals The Reason, Their Leader Was Rearrested by OreMI22: 12:34pm On Jun 30, 2021
CilicMarin:
WAS MAZI NNAMDI ACTUALLY "REARRESTED"?

MNK was advised by his international consultants and legal experts to hand himself over to the Nigerian government through the interpol, who are in charge of his safety throughout the period he will be in detention of the ZOO.


The international community is about to ask Nigeria to conduct a referendum but Mazi Nnamdi Kanu needs to clear his name and his organization first from the terrorism charges placed against him by the Nigerian government, as the international community cannot oversee a democratic referendum with someone who is still proscribed by the country he's seeking right for self-determination from.

This is why they have attempted to assassinate his lawyer Barrister lfeanyi Ejimofor, knowing he has a lot of evidence to use and win the government in the court of law.

Remember, in the past few months, IPOB has made revelations about thousands of dollars being paid to hire international consultancy firms, those firms owe IPOB credible services.

Believe it or not, Mazi Nnamdi Kanu wouldn't have just been given Biafra while he remains abroad broadcasting on Radio Biafra. International diplomacy have rules.

During his years in exile, remember he is been to the United Nations, he is met several international diplomats.

Remember he said few months ago that he will lead the battle from the frontline, the battle has begun. Remember he has been silent since the past 2 weeks.

If you think a figure as popular as Mazi Nnamdi Kanu can just be "rearrested" by Nigerian government, then think again.

Many Biafrans needed the presence of their leader in Nigeria for the final push to freedom, their dreams have come true.

As it stands, Biafrans may be emotionally drained over the news but in the next few days, they will bounce back stronger.

The whole world is watching.

STAY STRONG BIAFRANS, THE SUN IS ABOUT TO RISE AGAIN.

Written by:
Mazi Rich Israel
NNAMDI KANU WAS ARRESTED IN KENYA AND FLOWN TO ABUJA!!

HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER THAN TRAVEL TO SOME TWO-FACED AFRICAN COUNTRY!

I AM SURE HE WAS AWARE OF THE RISKS OF TRAVELING INTO AN AFRICAN COUNTRY THAT COLLUDES WITH NIGERIA. BUT DIDN'T CARE OR WAS NAIVE THAT THEY WOULD SEE HIS STRUGGLE AS SOMEWHAT OF BENEFIT TO AFRICA.

NONETHELESS, THE ARREST OF NNAMDI KANU WILL NOT STOP THE RESTORATION OF BIAFRA.

IT IS TRULY A WASTE OF TIME TO IMAGINE THAT NIGERIA WILL SIMPLY REMAIN THE SAME, COMMITTING THE SAME EVILS OF FULANI AGENDA, AND NOTHING WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE NNAMDI KANU WILL NOT SPEAK ABOUT THESE EVILS ONLINE.
PoliticsRe: Update on developments in Anambra state-photos by OreMI22:
Furious1:
Wow, just wow. All of you clap for yourselves
This proximity of Anambra airport to other airports have been a topic for quite some time but what's the point really.
Are you saying Anambra must use MMIA for exports when they can have their very own and cut costs abi is there an alternative functioning cargo wing of a cargo airport in the SE we don't know about.
Should Anambra state wait for Sam mbakwe airport to expand their runway and cargo wing because it's too close to build their own.
Or Anambra should just make the airport exclusively for Cargo because there are other airports around,
Are you trying to say SE can't have five airports and manage em comfortably,
And those saying the airport is a financial waste please prepare a comprehensive financial breakdown of how the money could have been better invested before involving yourself otherwise you're just a hater
I am glad that you have observed his venomous display. Imagine arguing that someone living in Anambra has to use a farther airport in his state? Why not ask people in Ngor Okpala to use Umueri airport? Do you see their lives? grin grin grin

Meanwhile, he measured Awomama - Umueri (NOT Anambra airport, Umueri). Then measured Awomama to Owerri (Not Owerri airport!). As if we are all dumb! In any case, I am glad that it is clear why the night owl bitterly hated the Anambra International airport had nothing to do with the welfare or progress of Anambra. He was totally fixated on how to use Anambra state's resources for his nefarious ends.

PoliticsRe: Update on developments in Anambra state-photos by OreMI22:
BKayy:
You people make me laugh when you analyse things.
Na only person wey no sabi road for Ihiala, Okija and Uli that will waste precious time to Use Anambra Airport when within 50 mins he/she is at Owerri Airport or almost the same min, he/she is at Asaba.
Forget all the support we gave the governor. In reality, the Airport is for Awka, Aguleri, other Anambra North and Kogi people. Even some parts of the North will be best served at Enugu when you consider the time it will take to move inside Umuleri.
South and Central will either use Owerri and Asaba respectively than waste precious time travelling to Umuleri
Time is money
You are so pained by Anambra international airport. Even if you change your moniker a hundred times, your empty vile-filled venom against Anambra people betray you all the time. If you know anything about aviation, you would know that airlines go where there are large volume demand and adequate facilities. There are so many airports in Nigeria today that don't even get a single flight in a month! So it's not just about the presence of an airport somewhere, a lot more goes into it to be utilized and useful!

Anambra international airport is waaay closer to Ihiala than Owerri airport which is located halfway towards Aba! You probably not from Anambra so you would never have driven from Ihiala to Onitsha and then 2 hours to cross the bridge to Asaba. You would understand the suffering associated with going to Asaba.

With the three access roads and to the international airport, especially the link from Nsugbe, the airport is closer to Onitsha residents than Asaba. Again, nobody in Awka will drive to Enugu to board a flight because this airport is closer than Enugu.

Why are you so pained that Anambra built an airport for its own citizens to develop its economy? While all these states mocking Anambra people all these years about not having an airport are so angry now because they depend on Anambra people to drive traffic in their own airport?

I mentioned that I read where some Kogi people were asking for commencement of the Ajaokuta - Idah - Aguleri to Onitsha road. That road was planned even before this airport because it is supposed to shorten the distance to Abuja drastically. However, even without that road, Anambra cities alone will keep this airport busy.

Not to mention that it has superior aviation facilities and runway length than any airport in the southeast. Including the fact that it is the only airport in the southeast that can land planes at night and has CAT 2 ILS. Unlike a southeast airport where common water used in flushing toilets is a huge problem! Anambra international airport has an abundant water supply of its own and enough for even fire-fighting emergencies! I recall the Sosoliso plane crash where parents watched their kids roast to death more than 2 hours after the crash because there was not even a single fire truck with water at the airport! Obiano is making sure such irresponsible waste of human life does not occur at the Anambra Intl. airport. Thus, he is spending the money for not just a proper adequate water supply system, but 3 brand new Crash tender state-of-the-art Fire vehicles! Obiano is bringing the best global aviation standards to an airport in the southeast and you should be happy about that if you were not a night owl. We should be proud and happy that we have at least one international standard airport in southeastern Nigeria with facilities comparable to international airports found elsewhere in the world.

No doubt the airport is the future of the region and you know it. That is why you are so pained, but it will not change the imposing credentials and world-class facilities being gradually installed at the airport.

PoliticsRe: Update on developments in Anambra state-photos by OreMI22: 11:06pm On Jun 27, 2021
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PoliticsRe: Update on developments in Anambra state-photos by OreMI22:
Rocksvibes234:
Anambra International Airport inspection.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY4vtTttPzM
I heard the Igalas are also seriously pushing for the award of the Idah - Aguleri federal road which the FG has been foot-dragging for a long time. A distance of about just 85KM!
When that road is completed, Idah would be only a 45 minute - 1-hour drive from this airport. Which would truly make accessing Idah and other parts of the Igala nation within just 1 hour from Lagos, Abuja, or other parts of the world through this airport.

With the completion of Idah- Aguleri road, in fact, this airport would be more accessible for someone living in Idah than someone living in Ihiala! This would be a huge game-changer and a massive investment boost for the Igala nation.

In the interim, i just want to say the main dual-carriage airport road is promising to be the best stretch of road in Anambra state. I am hoping that they will complete it with trees planted in the median and street lights. So that it commands the needed powerful aura needed in international entrace ways where a first time visitor makes their first impression of a country upon arrival and driving on such pleasant road.

PoliticsRe: Update on developments in Anambra state-photos by OreMI22: 4:53pm On Jun 26, 2021
ChineduAIaegbu:
How come no one is updating the primaries of APC and PDP?
Abi that one no follow for updates?
...and what prevents you from updating APC since you are their member?
Must other people also use their data to update your own party for you?

Mad people everywhere.

PoliticsRe: IGBOS IN NORTH DENOUNCE NNAMDI KANU OR PREPARE FOR WORST! by OreMI22: 1:52pm On Jun 20, 2021
And has Fulani denounced Buhari so they won't face the worst from other regions?

Well,time is ticking for Fulanis and their arrogance which leads them to believe they own Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Ezendigbo In The North Disown IPOB, Tell Buhari What To Do by OreMI22: 7:10pm On Jun 16, 2021
Ctorch:
Igbo elders and traditional rulers and under the aegis of Igbo Delegates Assembly (IDA) and the Association of the Eze Ndigbo in 19 northern states of the federation have rallied support for the President Muhammadu Buhari administration in the bid to combat insecurity, ensure peace and unity in the country.

They condemned the activities of the Indigenous People of Biafra (IPOB), including their secessionist quest, even as they irrevocably dissociated themselves from what they described as the group’s invidious acts.

This was contained in a communiqué issued at the end of their meeting in Abuja.

The communiqué was jointly signed by president-general of the Igbo Delegates Assembly (IDA), Chief Chi Nwogu; chairman of the Eze Ndigbo in the 19 Northern States and FCT, Eze Pampas Ngozi Wahiwe, and Eze Ndigbo Kano and president of the Eze Ndigbo in Diaspora, Eze Boniface Ibekwe.

The communiqué noted that after examining the current state of the nation critically, the Igbo leaders denounced the on-going killings, banditry, and kidnapping, destruction of government property, robbery and unlawful activities of herdsmen.

They called on the people of the South East to desist from all acts of commission or omission that would endanger the lives of their people in the North or other parts of Nigeria.

“We condemn and dissociate ourselves from the wanton killings and destruction of property in the Eastern Nigeria and urge that no Nigerian should associate us with same”, the communiqué stated.

They charged the Buhari-led government to deploy all the lawful apparatus to secure the unity, security and development of all parts of Nigeria.

The Igbo leaders stated that all Nigerians are free to live and engage in any lawful business, and similarly acquire and develop property in any part of Nigeria, adding that nobody or group of persons have the right to prevent such rights.

They also declared support for the rightful demand of the Igbos for a Nigerian president of Igbo extraction in 2023, notwithstanding the political party.

The communiqué noted that Ohanaeze Ndigbo Worldwide is the apex body and there should be no proliferation in any part of the North


https://leadership.ng/igbo-leaders-in-north-disown-ipob/amp/
The day Fulani will slaughter the malu, i will come to this thread to hail their incurable stupidity.
PoliticsRe: If South East Is A Dot In A Circle What Is The Meaning Of These 2 Dots? by OreMI22: 6:55pm On Jun 12, 2021
IlovePMB:
What is the meaning of these two dots?
son of the devil grin grin grin


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PoliticsRe: Anambra: Ogidi Police Station Attacked By Unknown Gunmen - Pics by OreMI22: 6:54pm On Jun 12, 2021
This is the work of DSS and the Fulani thugs they have imported into the southeast to attack people and destroy public buildings.
PoliticsRe: They Promised Us N1000- Pro Buhari Protesters by OreMI22: 2:34pm On Jun 12, 2021
ijebuwoman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-VNG5xjEeE

All in all, Fulani will finally allow the trapped nationalities in Nigeria to have total freedom over their own affairs. Whether Fulani does this sensibly or through a war, it is the same endpoint.

But if Fulani chooses to do it through a war, Fulani will in fact be expelled from Nigeria by indigenous Hausa Nigerians after Fulani has failed in its war effort to subdue the south. That will be the biggest catastrophe for Fulanis who willingly lost everything through pure greed. All these killings of native Hausa people in Zamfara and Kebbi by Fulanis will be avenged.
PoliticsRe: Why Are There No Protests In South East States? by OreMI22: 2:22pm On Jun 12, 2021
Evanderbright:
My Igbo brethren what is happening na?
The Internet is bubbling with protest pictures from south west
I know we didn't vote for this calamity
But we must stand in solidarity with our Yoruba siblings please
Another Fulani goon spotted!
We have gone beyond your silly divide and rule tactics. But of course, you are still living in the past to notice it. Southeast is boiling with Fulani Police and army who have already killed 5,000 youths.

All in all, Fulani will finally allow the trapped nationalities in Nigeria to have total freedom over their own affairs. Whether Fulani does this sensibly or through a war, it is the same endpoint.

But if Fulani chooses to do it through a war, Fulani will in fact be expelled from Nigeria by indigenous Hausa Nigerians after Fulani has failed in its war effort to subdue the south. That will be the biggest catastrophe for Fulanis who willingly lost everything through pure greed. All these killings of native Hausa people in Zamfara and Kebbi by Fulanis will be avenged.
PoliticsRe: Just In: Nmandi Kanu Under Serious Pressure To Accept A 5 Igbo States BIAFRA. by OreMI22: 3:50am On Jun 12, 2021
Makemefit12op:
He made the claim on twitter,and I quote
If am compelled to accept the 5 Igbo states as BIAFRA, what will happen to the indigenous Igbos gerrymandered into edo,kogi,delta,bayelsa and rivers.
Are they not also Igbos.
Nnamdi Kanu already knows the Fulani(CNG) members are insincere about Biafra.
Their gimmick is to sow confusion and division among Biafrans by dividing them into Igbo Biafrans, Ijaw Biafrans, Ibibio Biafrans, Efik Biafrans etc. That is why Buhari will say he "heard" from south-south that they don't want Biafra and the CNG say they want the Igbos out of Nigeria as Biafrans.

A simple REFERENDUM will decide if the majority of Biafrans want to stay in Nigeria or Biafra. It could be that parts of Biafra will opt for nigeria and some will opt for Biafra. Either way, it would then be the peoples' decision. NOT Fulani imposition.
Right now, the breakup of Nigeria is the only feasible solution to the mess called Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: If They Want To Kill You With A Stick, Look For A Stick — Ebonyi Governor Charge by OreMI22: 2:35pm On Jun 11, 2021
Peace2allmen:
Umahi stated this on Thursday during an enlarged security council meeting targeted at resolving the ravaging insecurity in the state.


The governor acknowledged that herders armed with AK-47s had sent several threat messages informing that they would launch attacks in the state.


The governor therefore urged the people of the state to always be ready to confront them.


“We note that there have been threats from herders with AK-47 sending text messages to Ebonyi State that they are coming to attack us.


“We have resolved as a people to confront anybody, whether he is a herder or criminal that will come into the state with any gun to kill, or anyone that enters the state with the intention to commit assault.


“Protect yourself in all the nooks and crannies of the state; confront anybody that wants to kill our people. If the people want to kill with a stick, look for a stick. Don’t look for security people to come, no sleeping day and night protect yourself.


“Form your vigilante. At the local government, Ebubeagu must do everything to protect the people.


“No more need to be afraid. If they write you that they are coming, tell them to come, this is our position.


“The traditional rulers, our leaders where the ring roads will pass, have assured us of adequate security.


“And all local government chairmen are to form joint security with the traditional rulers.


“Traditional rulers and their representatives where there is no one alive, the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) leadership, councillors and leaders should form a very united committee to resolve all communal crises and maintain peace in their areas.”


Umahi also noted that the state has granted amnesty to armed youths in the state.


He called on them to leverage on the new opportunity carved by the state to employ about 5,000 persons into the state civil service including the empowerment of 3,000.


“We have also resolved that they should drop whatsoever arms they have; the state government will give them amnesty and stop further confrontation with security agencies and the good people of the state.


“Again, Ebonyi State is not against any alleged agitation for any injustice whether it is at the family level, state, region and national.


“But as a state we have resolved not to allow any form of violent agitation in the state or attack on security agencies, people or restriction of movement, freedom of people or attack in any of our infrastructure.


“We demand that any alleged agitation and injustice must be compiled and be given to the leaders of the state for them to address them with the leadership at the centre," he said.







http://saharareporters.com/2021/06/11/if-they-want-kill-you-stick-look-stick-—-ebonyi-governor-charges-youths-face-killer
Finally he has realized that killing of his people is a preplanned strategy by his friends.

SMH for these hopeless men.
PoliticsRe: AGF Malami’s Screenshot Includes Crypto Trading Icon - The Gazette by OreMI22: 8:20pm On Jun 09, 2021
Criminals in government. Only God knows how much funds they steal and siphon abroad using Bitcoin.
PoliticsRe: Update on developments in Anambra state-photos by OreMI22: 12:54pm On Jun 09, 2021
post=102536439:
Mission are doing great in Anambra state

St Charles Borromeo hospital Onitsha added another beautiful edifice full equipped with modern medical facilities
This is a wonderful edifice. But, Nigerians know how to make beautiful things ugly. It cost A LOT to use bricks in beautifying this edifice.

Couldn't a little more have been spent to buy extra wires and tubes to ensure all those A/Cs are brought to the ground level? So that they don't hang off the wall haphazardly like a ghetto apartment in Minx?

PoliticsRe: Twitter Ban Should Be Reversed Immediately - US Mission In Nigeria by OreMI22: 12:45pm On Jun 09, 2021
SavagesWillLose:
The US may soon start imposing sanctions on this regime.

"There are nearly 40 M Twitter users in #Nigeria, and the country is home to Africa's largest tech hub.

This suspension is nothing more than state-sanctioned denial of free speech and should be reversed immediately."
The mask-wearing impostor has been commanded to do the needful. Else he will be exposed as an imposter who has been impersonating Buhari.

This news sweet o!
grin

PoliticsRe: Akeredolu Commissions 20 Patrol Vehicles To Boost Amotekun Operations (photos) by OreMI22: 8:40pm On Jun 08, 2021
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alfasexy:
See dem. 50 years after Biafrans.

Now they copy our Great grandmothers.
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Another Fulani spotted! They always wanna be someone else grin
PoliticsRe: Security Operatives & IPOB Clash In Anambra, Two Dead by OreMI22: 3:20am On Jun 08, 2021
Nobody should be deceived with the Fulani federal government antics of sponsored violence in the SE calling them "UNKNOWN gunmen "!

THESE MEN ARE NOT IGBO NOR MEMBERS OF ESN!

Nigeria is playing a deceotful game here using mercenaries to destroy the security infrastructure of the SE and calling them UNKNOWN gunmen!
PoliticsRe: Buhari Disables The Reply Button After Millions Report His Genocide Tweets by OreMI22:
owobokiri:
Very irresponsible thug they call president..
Those Fulani goons asking for war should know that once it starts, they cannot stop it.

Even without 15% of prominient Igbos behind him, Nnamdi Kanu has been a nightmare to them. Talkmore when he gets bulk Igbo support because Fulanis declared a war on the Igbos. Again, killing innocent people will not change anything. If you listen well you will notice that the real people taking the action are avoided by police and army. Instead they are harassing innocent people.

Meanwhile Nnamdi Kanu should go beyond AK47and source for handheld mortars, anti-tank, anti-aircraft weapons . This isn't a fight with AK 47. The way Nigeria has deployed its entire military on mere vigilantes.
PoliticsRe: The Reason The Army And Police Are Killing Igbo Youths At An Increased Rate. by OreMI22: 2:22am On May 31, 2021
You analysis is wrong because the more the soldiers kill innocent people, the more ESN gets more determined volunteers who have a score to settle.

In essence it is the soldiers that are helping ESN to get good volunteers by being brutal to innocent people. In the end, when the realize this tactics works against them, it would have been too late.

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