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NATO vs Russia

While this option is discussed ad nauseam these days, it is a fiction. The truth of the matter is simple: NATO does not have the means to attack Russia and neither does Russia have the means to attack NATO. Yes, both sides have standoff weapons that they could use against each other, but standoff weapons alone do not win wars. And the truth is that NATO is not anywhere near the kind of force levels needed to project these forces into the Ukrainian theater of military operations. It would take NATO many months, if not years, to achieve such a capability (remember how long “Desert Shield” took?).

As for the Russians, yes, they do have a powerful armored “fist” near (100km-400km) the Ukrainian border, but its size clearly indicates its real function: to prevent a Ukie breakthrough and occupation of the LDNR, not to prepare for an invasion of the entire Ukraine or, even less so, of the EU. Most of the Russian forces are located further away from the Ukrainian border simply because they are not needed there. Duh!

Some idiots have recently suggested that the US+NATO could deploy landing ships in the Black Sea and attempt a landing to open a second “jarhead front” against Russia. Other not less stupid people have suggested that the US+NATO could move its “mobile forces” to assist the Ukies. What they never ask is a) what is the actual size of US+NATO “mobile forces” (whatever that means) b) what is the firepower of such a force and 3) what is the tactical mobility of such forces, especially when faced with a combined arms army. As for the Black Sea, it is in military terms, a Russian lake as Russia has the means to sink any ship anywhere on the Black Sea in minutes. And the bigger the target, the easier its destruction.

Finally, NATO and the EU are much more preoccupied with having either women and/or trannies running their forces than thinking about actual, real, warfare.

The EU/NATO are nothing but a quite ridiculously dysfunctional freak circus, not a military threat.

So let’s go one level up:

Banderastan vs LDNR+Russia

Here, again, the Ukies would have the advantage of surprise, at least in theory. My personal bet is that the Russian intelligence services would know about any such move even before the Ukie commanders. Other than that, the case of Banderastan vs LDNR+Russia is not all that different from the “pure” LDNR vs Banderastan scenario, with the crucial difference that if the Ukies force Russia to intervene the Russians will need a couple of days max (instead of hours) to not necessarily destroy all the Ukie units or forces, but to turn the Ukrainian military into a completely disorganized force incapable of actual military operations (I refer to this as “defanging”). To achieve this goal the Russians would not have to move a single soldier across the border, their standoff weapons and EW/A2/AD capabilities would be more than sufficient to achieve this result.

But here, again, we would see a Russian military triumph turn into a political triumph for the West. What would be the point for Russia?

There is also another danger here: Russian over-reach. I strongly believe that the Nazi-occupied Ukraine is the equivalent of a limb infected with gangrene: this limb presents a major threat to the rest of the body and needs to be cut off and the part of the body it used to be attached to needs to be thoroughly disinfected. As for the limb itself, it can die from its own toxins, who cares? Here I am not referring to the LDNR (although things are not all idyllic there either!), but to the parts of the Ukraine which both the LDNR and the Russians might be most tempted to liberate from the Nazis, including Mariupol and the rest of the Ukie coast, and also including most of the currently Nazi-occupied territory East of the Dniepr river. To liberate it would be a no-brainer, at least in military terms, but then Russia would “own” this territory and, therefore, be responsible not only for maintaining law and order but also for the reconstruction of this large and basically deindustrialized piece of land. This is a cost Russia has no moral obligation to shoulder (and no means to do so anyway).

Furthermore, it would be wrong to think that the entire population of these territories would welcome the Russians with flowers (like they welcomed the Nazis in WWII in the western Ukraine), there are a lot of real Ukronazis living there too. Furthermore, there are plenty of folks in the eastern Ukraine who would want a Russian pension in Rubles but who don’t give a damn about Russia and her civilizational values. I think of them as “civilizational parasites”.

But if Putin gives the order to stop more or less at the current line of contact, all the “armchair generals” would immediately blame him for not liberating the rest of the Ukraine!

Remember that the current narrative of western PSYOPs is not that Putin is too patriotic, it is that he is not patriotic enough (that is the same crowd who blames Putin for “allowing Israel to bomb Syria” by the way). So, let’s say that the Ukies attack, the LDNR defenses hold, Russia de-fangs the Ukie military with standoff weapons, and the LDNR forces, backed by Russia, push the line of contact somewhat to the West, but not too much, certainly far short of liberating a big chunk of the Ukraine. Here is what the US PSYOPs will do in that case: they will push all of the following narratives in parallel:

The limited Russian intervention proves that Russia is dangerous and aggressive, so the entire freedom-loving continent should unite against Russia lest Putin pushes his tanks to Portugal or even invade Mexico! Only the show unity and force of the US and its NATO “allies” stopped the Russian bear from going any further!
Putin is a weak leader, a puppet of the Bilderbergers and the CFR, he is all bluff and all that Russian propaganda about Russia holding all the military cards is an empty bluff too. Proof? Well, if the Russian military was that strong, it would not have stopped so far in the East. QED.
The Ukie military, thanks to NATO kit and training, was sufficient to stop the Russians. Just like the Georgian military “stopped the Russians” (13km from Tbilissi!) in 08.08.08. The Russian military is a paper tiger, we are the best, we won, HURRAY!!! We can “woke away” in peace.
This kind of nonsense has been posted all over the Internet for years already, and if the Russians do not at least reach the Dniepr river, this will be the “proof” to those folks that they were right all along.

[Sidebar: By the way, this is EXACTLY what Israel is doing in Syria. Bombing poorly defended and irrelevant locations on a regular basis thereby “proving” that:
Israel remains “invincible”
Proving that Russian air defenses suck against superior Israeli technology
Alternatively, proving that Putin is a tool or, at least, ally of the Israelis
The fact that all these Israeli strikes have made exactly ZERO military difference on the ground where both Russia and Iran are holding all the cards is conveniently obfuscated by that kind of nonsense. What is really happening is this: Russian (owned and manned) air defenses in Syria only have as a mission to protect Russian forces in/near Khmeimim and Tartus (no, Russia NEVER had the objective of protecting all of Syria from IDF attacks – why should Russia fight somebody else’s war?). Other than that, the Russians did sell a number of air defenses to the Syrians (who now own and man them) and they are quite effective at protecting militarily important objectives in Syria, that is precisely why the Israelis are only bombing clothing storage containers, border posts and empty buildings. Such easy to strike objectives need not be important, as long as there is a loud BOOM followed by a big fire and the Israelis get to declare victory. The questions which, apparently, nobody asks are these:
if the Israeli strikes are so effective, why does nothing change militarily in Syria?
if the Syrians decided to retaliate and fire their (few) ballistic missiles into Israel, what would Israel do and could the Syrian air defenses deal with a truly fullscale Israeli bomb and missile attack (the correct answer is: no).
what would the Russians gain if they began shooting down Israeli aircraft in or even outside Syrian airspace?
The truth is that for the Israelis looking victorious is much much more important than defeating the Syrians. Again, the APPEARANCE of victory matters much more to the (terminally narcissistic) Israelis than actually defeating the Syrians or anybody else (including Iran or Hezbollah) for that matter. The exact same goes for the entire West]
Let’s keep in this mind when we look at the next level:

Written by Andrei
http://thesaker.is/revisiting-the-basics-about-the-current-balance-of-military-power/
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Keywords:
Banderastan / ukies means UKraine
LDNR. means Donetsk & Lugansk republics (breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine)


Who is the strongest?
Who is the best?
Who holds the aces
The East Or the West?
This is the crap our children are learning!
Roger Waters (1987)


I noticed that my remarks about the silly PR stunt with a US CVN in the Med elicited some reactions in the comments section. And it is true, that both sides, Russia and the “collective West”, are declaring themselves as militarily stronger, so all I offer to do today is a quick recap of a few basic facts. Let’s take the full spectrum of possible wars and check out the correlation of forces on each level. We also need to revisit each time what “victory” or “defeat” could mean in each case.

LDNR vs Banderastan

Here we are assuming a “clean” Ukie vs LDNR conflict (no external actors) which, by itself, is completely artificial. The West backs the Ukies and Russia backs the LDNR. Still, we can say a few things about such a possible conflict. The Ukies have higher numbers and they would have the initiative, at least initially, since they would be the attacking side. Not only that, but the Ukies can play a very exhausting game against the LDNR: *almost* launch a full-scale attack and then pull back. Over and over again. This would place a huge strain on the LDNR defenders (for those interested in the topic of the advantages yielded by such a tactic should read Richard Bett’s excellent book Surprise Attack: Lessons for Defense Planning written in distant 1982 but still full of useful lessons). From the LDNR’s side, the best option here is to combine strong intelligence capabilities with an echeloned defense in-depth, possibly including three echelons all designed to “snap around” any penetrating force. Well-prepared defenses can also entice/channel an attacking force into a “fire cauldron”. But let’s be realistic here, the LDNR knows that Russia will never allow the Ukie force to break through the LDNR defenses, so “all” the LDNR forces need to do, is to hold their defenses long enough for the Russians to decide to strike. That means minutes, possibly hours, but not days, let alone weeks.

Considering the truly immense difference in morale and training, my personal guess is that the Ukies won’t be able to break through the LDNR defenses before being hammered by Russian standoff weapons. There is even a real possibility that the LDNR forces might repeal the Ukronazis without any real Russian intervention.

However, while to force the Russians to intervene would be a military defeat for the Ukies, but it would be a political triumph for the collective West which has created the entire Banderastan with the sole purpose of making it “Russia’s Afghanistan” or “Russia’s Vietnam” or whatever other silly metaphor the western “specialists” love to come up with. Which begs the question: what is the point of “winning” militarily when you lose politically? Is war not still the continuation of politics by other means?

In any case, the “pure” LDNR vs Banderastan scenario is really meaningless. We need to go one step up in the horror scale.

PerformOrResign:
Just As I Forecasted, The CBN Has Just Devalued The Naira Against The Dollar-Reno Omokri

What might be the impact of this devaluation on the parallel market rate?

For a payload to enter orbit, it needs to reach speeds above 7,600 (meters per second). We reached 7,350,” the spokesperson said.


A rocket launched by Iran on Thursday has ended with the satellites aboard failing to attain orbit, as the launch itself was not speedy enough to hit the required altitude.

The announcement was made by a spokesperson for the country’s defense ministry in a documentary about the launch, which aired on state television on Friday.

Footage of Thursday’s launch was also shown on state TV. The domestically-built Simorgh rocket carried its payload – three research satellites – up to 470 kilometers.

A Simorgh launch in 2016 successfully put its payload into orbit, but there have been multiple failed launch attempts since then.

Kenn55:
Nigeria will collect loan for everything except for things that would make the maximum impact.
Have you ever wondered why Nigeria can't collect money from China or elsewhere to fix electricity or build new refineries? The answer is simple.

Those 2 areas will produce a positive effect that would improve the state of the country and empower the citizens but what the government and Nigerian elites don't want to see is the progress of the common man.
Keeping the common man poor and suffering is a good tool to control them and use them for their selfish interest.

The poorer the people, the better for the elites who want total control of the people.

Honestly, I’m beginning to believe this hypothesis that there is a consensus amongst the elite to keep the masses impoverished. But what really befuddles me Is when a few breaks out from the impoverished mass and makes it into the political class, they start acting under the same consensus. Any explanation?

Look at Oshomole, wasn’t he part of the struggling class impoverished by the ruling elite.

Anigreat:



If not for China's technological knowledge/advancement, China would've been the worst country on earth.


That was how the banned some social medias in their country. They banned Facebook, WhatsApp, YouTube, Instagram, Snapchat, yahoo etc.

They developed WeChat to replace WhatsApp, developed Sina Weibo to replaced Twitter, they developed Douyin and kuaishiu to replaced Instagram and lots more

They hate using what other people developed but they want the whole to be using they're creating.

And to think this is a country one skinny skeletal idiot runs to every second to borrow a huge some of money is so worrisome.

Quite on the contrary... it’s because these apps (Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp) share data with the US security institutions . And these apps are known to be used by these institutions to promulgate regime change. China being a top adversary to the US is highly wary of these avenues used by the US for social engineering, manufacturing consent and regime change.

These weibo apps and rest are alternatives to the western structures. Just the way they have their own payment system unionpay, Alipay.

It’s a good move by them to be self sufficient and not rely on western structures. They are aligning with Russia to build an alternative to SWIFT bank settlement system. That’s another western construct that they often dangle as sanction to any nation that refuses to kowtow to their US-Rule based order. Remember Iran was cut off from SWIFT for experimenting with nuclear technology. Same technology that US, Israel, UK,China, India, Pakistan and Russia owns. Venezuela gold reserve in U.K. bank was seized by U.K. Afghan monetary reserves in US bank seized because the Talibs beat the US.

They have their own aviation industry up and running in case the west instructs Boeing and Airbus not to supply spare parts. Same way the west crippled Iranian aviation industry with sanctions on spare parts.

Despite the pressure from the west including economic sanctions and all, they are resilient and dependent on their internal and external market to maintain growth. Local consumption of goods and services have grown tremendously.

How much is too much when it comes to tattooing the body? I think some do take this the extreme by painting all the body. I understand it’s an individual choice but such comes with consequences. So many institutions have restrictions on body alterations.. no beards in the military, no long hairs, males can’t plait their hair like female and work in government office. We all do have restrictions one way or another.


Side note: the Christian faith in Nigeria doesn’t allow tattoos, right?

Moorish:
I think they estimated that to fix our power sector we will need about 500billion USD

I think the cost is high that’s why.

Also there isn’t a strong urge to fix it from the government cos of vested interests that will be affected (generator importers etc)

You mean $500B ?

Then if we can’t build it... why don’t we rent power stations like karpowership?

Sluvist:
Atleast, we see the first hand experience on how it will go with electric cars in Nigeria. Those that fancy it should think twice before buying it in Nigeria.

But many western countries will scrap deisel / gasoline engines by 2050.... why can’t we get ourselves ready for electric car that’s the future

Eriokanmi:
Lolz. Welcome to Nigeria, welcome to lasgidi. He must have drained his battery while in traffic. Next time he would seek Google map help on traffic situation per route before he steps out.

This is one of the reasons I say Nigeria isn't progressing. 4th mainland bridge and lagos owned airport which Tinubu had been using to campaign since 1999 are a mirage. I'm sure they'd still use the same to campaign to gullible lagosians come 2023 and they'd believe them hook line and sinker. Our mumu go do one day. They know how to catch you people with lies. The earlier you guys join us in chasing them away, the better. Lagos had become their business centre.

We wouldn't have been facing terrible traffic in lagos today, had Pa janakde been allowed by buhari in the 80s to complete the lagos lite rail which is neither here nor there today. Each government would mount a few pillars of the lite rail and leave. They keep using it to campaign but the same man can own 3 private jets and his blind supporters would say there's nothing bad about it.

My friend came from the UK to help with Lagos water transportation during fahola regime, he looked at the proposal and pushed it aside. This guy works in same company in the UK as a senior manager and the British company promised to finance it 100% that he should come and do the ground work at home.

Long story cut short, this guy's proposal was plagiarised by those in government then but they got stuck due to lack of financing. They now bought 2 boats for this purpose which plied ikorodu-island route.

Sanwoolu government invited him and had a chat with this guy. He staged a walk out after they said the profit would be shared 60/40. What a state

In my friend's proposal, he wanted to ensure that both buman and vehicles were ferried from Island to mainland. In that proposal, one ferry would convey over 1000 passengers at a time. Very robust one. But because they wanted to short change him, he dropped the idea and left. That's the way lagos rolls. They're anti-people. They didn't consider the relief such a project would have had on lagosians.

Shame in our government. The replica of the proposed lagos airport to be cited around lekki which they've been using to campaign since 1999 was what Anambra who doesn't have up to half of lagos revenues had done in less than 4 years without making noise , bayelsa too. We will get sense one day .

The elites are damn greedy... thinking of self only. Them they use the people dey catch cruise.

Living abroad helps one understand what infrastructure decay we have. Seoul has an underground rail network that lets you travel underground for hours and not see day light till you get to your destination.

Would it be nice to have a massive ferry moving workers from Ojo / mile2 to island every morning and evening rather than the limited shuttles on laswa. Then compliment this initiative with the light rail... wonderful scheme!

Why can’t we have a stable power supply?

Why can’t we reform the laws allowing states to generate power under clean energy act?

Why can’t the central leadership coerce all these “no-good” state leadership to get up and starting working for their state rather than wait for handout from central? Most of the Emirates in UAE run their own power supply scheme. Some emirates like Ajman is not as big as Lagos, yet they have their power plants. See below photo3 Ajman’s power plant.

It’s 2021.... the science of power generation is quite rudimentary at these times. Not a big deal! It’s the same basic science of your tiger generator scaled up a thousand times.


Turkey runs an offshore power turbine (on ship) off the coast of Lebanon to supply power to this nation (Lebanon). Lagos can get one of this. Lagos can afford it. If they can’t, then rent the service. See below Turkey’s Karpowership.

China will be more than happy to build a power plant on each state in Nigeria on a long term repayment agreement; just the way we partnered with them on rail.

Sometimes we need brute force to make a change... the way Sanusi forced everyone to go cashless. Now POS operator is a popular employment scheme around Nigeria, though not good enough, better then staying unemployed.

But what we have is a bunch of clowns who are after their own interest. Their greed stinks! Most often they distract the people with non issues while they are neck deep in the coffers

It’s an APC government, an APC legislature... what are they waiting for?

PS: second photo is shell’s power supply scheme to Aba industrial zone. It’s a limited scheme.

Fourwinds:
Did you even read the news well at all?
A strike came from that area into Israel that was why they retaliated... You people should read properly

A strike from Latakia into Israel? Please check the map. The projectile would have to fly over Lebanon to hit Israel. There was no such missile attack against Israel from Latakia

Since the onset of this “regime -change” war sponsored by US and U.K. , Israel has been attacking Syria for no reason . Even at the peak of the war, Israel was sponsoring jihadist to attach Syria from Occupied Golan height.

It’s sad.

Microwhy:
Iran will bomb Israel and nothing will happen..

Iran bombed Americans and nothing happened!

VOsimhen144:
Isreali are dealing with their enemies in the language they understand, while Nigerians are still calling on the God of Israel to save them from their Bandits and boko-haram enemies.

Don’t support this wrong doing. Israel is a bully. The nation has repeatedly bombed Syria for no reason just to exercise her might.

Syria as a nation has every right to align with any country she chooses, including Russia and Syria.

This clearly shows the repugnant hypocrisy of the west. They often turn a blind eye when it’s in their interest.

One day this problem will come to a head..

Maxymilliano:
https://dailytrust.com/full-text-you-may-be-suffering-memory-loss-obasanjos-letter-bomb-to-edwin-clark

Both men have been in and out of leadership of this country since 1975, and yet the country and the region are in tatters!

Both do not deserve Front page, please!

walkbrazil4k:
Don't believe everything you see even fake food day

That fake food concept is really a business idea. Many restaurants in Nigeria don’t have fake food displays. Many restaurants in Japan and Korea have these displays that actually show what the menu looks like.

If you have such a company in Brazil Making fake food, see if you can introduce the concept to Restaurants in Nigeria

GoodHardDick:
That's how a sane and working Country Supposed to be.

Over here, cows and stupidity will not allow them to know what development is.

I think it is more of sheer greed mixed with stupidity.they think of them self first.

If the North Koreans can build an “underground” rail network despite economic blockade, then we with oil wealth cannot have decent roads without potholes

RenaissanceGuy:
Stop this lie, please. Are you talking about the Japan that was once an empire ruling over many Asian countries? The Japan that manufactured thousands of fighter aircraft during World War II? Let me not even talk about China; do the research yourself.

You just dey realize we get many dumb folks on NL. Japan that ran an empire covering the Korean Peninsula and China.

freshkpomo:



Please bring back the days of Nigerian - Japan, not this fake Chinko relationship.

Nothing happened to our relationship with Japan but corruption. Our leaders are so averse to technology.

Imagine in 2021 we still can not turn enough turbines to generate electricity...

richeeyo:
How can you compare two nonsense
What we really need is something like the A10 warthog
Heavy armored plane for ground attack
With a high velocity gatling gun

The Bayraktar has proven it’s performance in many battles including the battle of Idlib, Libyan’s battle for Tripoli and the recent Nagorna war with Azerbaijan.

Considering that we need to maintain 24hours surveillance of operational theater and forward operation support, don’t you think the combat drones are better suited than the tocano?

richeeyo:
How can you compare two nonsense
What we really need is something like the A10 warthog
Heavy armored plane for ground attack
With a high velocity gatling gun

What’s the stats on A10?
How long can they stay up on full load?


PS: USA have not sold this A10 aircraft to any country?

Just thinking aloud here. Nigeria spent $500 Million acquiring 6 super tocano jets from the US to combat the insurgency in the Northeast.

$500 million can buy 100 Bayraktar TB2 combat drones at a price of $5 million each.

Isn’t It cost effective for us? I mean these drones have a 24hour endurance flight with a good range. We could saturate the skies over Sambisa and maintain a siege on these jihadist.

What do you think guys?

ogododo:
Gbolahan McJacobs has bought market wey he no fit carry home.

Brother, please don’t join these clowns to defame the reporter. They are trying desperately to deflect the issue of the report and now resorting to attacker the reporter, poking unnecessary holes at the report.

This is typical of the Nigeria elite and the ruling circle...attack the messenger and ignore the message.

The facts remain that secret cult is a problem in this part of the world and politicians often use these member to promote their ambitions in a deadly manner.

During Jonathan’s rule, when Amaechi and wike were in a tussle, boys (Viking) in support of wike disrupted a conference organized by Amaechi in Port harcourt. Wike was with them.

The extrajudicial killing is clear sign of the states inability to maintain peace and order. And the state have left this issue to fester to a point it has sipped down to secondary schools; even to neighborhoods.

That’s call a spade a spade and accept the fact that as a society we face and immense challenge on all front: poverty, joblessness, maladministration, cultism, robbery, ritual murders..and the list goes on. WE HAVE TO WAKE UP AND DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES HOLDING US DOWN.

Please brother... don’t join their chorus!

Food for thought:

North Korea, despite economic blockade, built an impressive underground rail network for her people. See photo

With all our oil wealth we are still battling with surface rail. Well.... thanks for the Chinese for coming to help us on that one

Joeny:
I understand, but these blenders are extremely powerful. Someone who purchased from them referred me to them. And her testimony wowed me.

You know why these blenders are so expensive ... the brand on them. The core of any blender is the power board, universal motor and a drive shaft with double oil seal and double bearing.

You can actually get a good tokunbo (50mm coil) and mount on your countertop with a metal drive shaft plus a 2 liter jar all under 25k... same par with vitamix in terms of power.

Casemiro:
please I need suggestions on type of electric blender to buy, something at low cost and which can be used to blend ginger and other strong stuffs.



I bought one named Nulek, but unfortunately, the first time I used it, the engine started bringing out smoke.

Thanksised

My advice, never buy those blenders branded as kenwood, Bosch , silvercrest, with 3000w, 4500watts, in some cases 5000watts written on the package. They are fake, and they run on Aluminium coil winding.

For 10,000naira, I think you can get those plastic jar blenders rated below 500watts. They are ok but don’t run it continuously for more than 20seconds at a blend. Use the start for 20secs and stop for 20secs technique to avoid burn out.

Don’t buy the new ones, mostly Aluminium coil in them.

HonNL:
VANGUARD

Oba pikin the one wey dey contest for Rep don sell on the land wey dey on the pipeline finish. And the mumu people rush buy for 10 mills.

They are now building mansions on top pipeline along the canal leading to baruwa area. One day when government go remember them... e go be sorry!

Pease stop deceiving these folks.... YOU CAN NOT MINE BITCOIN ON A FLIMSY CELLPHONE.

Please note there is an information war between the west and China, Russia (first tier) and Iran, Venezuela, North Korea (second tier).

These nations( first tier) , according to western military doctrine, are an existential threat to their global imperialism. That’s the meaning of the phrase “pivot to Asia” by the Americans.

The west is fight with their media BBC, CNN and the rest of them main stream outlets. So do not take what these outlets parrot as the truth.... a lot is propaganda at its worst.

When the western had a monopoly on telephony technology, they spied On everyone else. Siemens, Alcatel, Lucent were all western telephony hardware Providers. And they spied. Now they have prevented Huawei on the networks because they fear the same.

So much for the propaganda on 5G because the Chinese had it first.

You see there is an information war. Don’t spread their lies. Stick to the truth. Read alt-media to gain a firm understanding of the spins.

Take a hint here:

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/12/new-york-times-covers-up-its-debunked-lies-about-tennis-star-peng-shuai-by-adding-new-ones-.html#more

Natajo2021:
Religions impaired the thinking of most Africans.
The Europeans used Religions to colonised Africa.
In the words of Desmond Tutu, "When the European came to Africa, they asked us to pray, we knelt down and closed our eyes, they asked us to recite in the name of Jesus, before we opened our eyes, they took our land, they gave us the bible in return "
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The Chinese realised that the Europeans conquered Africa economy with Religions, and opted for economy slavery in the name of road and brick initiative.
The concept had rubbed salts on Ugandan, the only international Airport in the country has been taken over by the Chinese.
The Chinese approached Obasanjo for Nigeria crude oil deposit as collateral in exchange for $50 billion USD. This offer was declined at the time.
The root of African problem is Religions.
Once you swapped your culture and religion for a foreign one, it becomes impossible for you to think in the way nature programmed you.
Religion in Africa is a money making organisation.
People can no longer fight for good governance.
They will tell you, he was hated coz he is a Christian or a Muslim.
Anywhere Christians are majority the best friend to Archbishop is the managing director, where Muslims are the majority, the best friend to chief imam or the Sokoto caliphate is always the Head oh NNPC in Nigeria.
You cannot be promoted in many organisations , miniseries, agencies and departments in Nigeria .
The story is endless.
The important thing is for Africans to be weary of the Chinese colonialists.

Brother, what you have written here are all propaganda parroted by the west to demean China in the modern day information war.

First of all, China did not take over Ugandan airport. That’s story has been addressed by the Ugandan authorities.

Like I have said before, China provides an immense opportunity for under-developed nations like Nigeria to gain a technology transfer; and a cheap transfer for that matter. Likes of Innoson (IVM) are taking advantage of this transfer to setup auto assemble plant. Europeans and Americans won’t provide this to these poor nations on the cheap.

I have been to China. And I tell you for a fact, our people need all the technology we can get from the Chinese: from power plants, heavy duty machineries to small scale setups for our entrepreneurs.

I have quite a lot of Chinese friends here who are into agriculture. Most of the vegetables supplied to supermarkets in Ikeja, Lagos island are from their farms.

I hope you change your views on China. They mean well with BRI projects. For them BRI provides an escape from the hegemony of the west; and alternative to the western trade routes. In the current war with the west, the Chinese are seeking friends elsewhere in Africa, South America etc. we could align with them strategically but not hurt the egos of the western world.

Visit China when you can. I promise you a change of view

This is the most bizarre propaganda I have ever come across on Nairaland .

China has provided an immense opportunity for African nations to industrialize on the cheap. Rather than tap into this technology transfer, you are spreading to defame another nation and her nationals.

Honestly we lack a lot in technology. And the west would not provide these knowledge on the cheap. Look around you, many things are possible due to cheap Chinese technology... from pure water machines to cheap “indomie” processing plant. With less than $2000 you can setup a mini production(tin tomato) courtesy of Chinese technology. Why not tap into this?

Why demean a nation that means well? They have provided you loans if well managed can help transform this country. They have their heavy industries willing to come here and help setup backbone infrastructure that we will need to advance as a nation. The Europeans and the American won’t do that for you on the cheap without strings attached.

Have you been to China? I think a visit to Shanghai or Beijing will definitely change your view on things.

MangekyoAlt:
First, they declined to renew his visa for some dumb reasons. And now these paid journalists were falsely publishing reports of him being a putin spy without any proper proof to back their stupid selves up. The racism against Russians in the UK is even worse than against blacks. I'm a chelsea fan but if I was Abramovich, I would have sold off the useless club a long time ago. I hate nonsense

They are neck deep in propaganda against Russia and China. Same propaganda ran by NYT and WaPo against a Chinese tennis player who has on record denied those allegations.

slivertongue:
On this Buhari has my support. We came from direct primary to indirect because of the inherent challenges, such as lack of valid party register, financial implications etc. If we failed to properly use indirect primary which is done in a location &with specific number of delegates, is it direct with many venues & party members that will be transparent? Nigerians should becareful oo hmm. Coup detat

Brother, why can’t the parties have a record of registered members? What’s hard in that?