₦airaland Forum

Staysave:
Afonjas and fulanis have the same reasoning, I still wonder some people still support tinubu after seeing what is happening in Nigeria now, someone that will spend all Nigerian money on his health issue.. I can't wait for the igbos to break of from this people...

The truth is that the Igbos can NOT break away from these people.

Jostoman:
Can you imagine and upon all the money that this man is getting left and right he is still looking for president. Greedy people

So you truly believe this junk?


A commissioner (not even the chairman) in the Nigerian Communication Commission can NOT single handedly award contracts let alone contracts worth Billions of Naira.

QuotaSystem:
Hold it there.

If you had the power or capacity to install anything you would have installed yourselves tey-tey instead of wailing and blackmailing all over the place.

I laugh in imaginary powers

Omo, see finishing!

DMerciful:
Bandits, bokoharam and killer herdsmen has not stopped the North from producing the president but you naively believe IPOB is the reason we're not considered politically. If you know your history you'll know that the fear of the dominating attitude of the Igbos started way before independence.

If you expect the Igbo man to beg for political power then you don't know us at all. If NigerIA insist on undermining us, Nigeria herself will not progress.

Given the political atmosphere just now, VP is ok for us, since SW wanna be greedy, they've got it coming!

Nobody is undermining you sir.



Ndigbo voted en mass for Atiku-Obi ticket of the PDP in 2019 but the PDP didn't secure enough votes to win. It will be wrong to accuse others by calling this 'undermining us'


In 2023, most Igbos are hoping that the PDP re-present the same Atiku-Obi ticket with the hope that they win.
However if other parts of Nigeria are working for the ticket of another political party, the Igbos will be complaining that they are undermining them.

Everyone is pursuing his own interests but if your interests fail to materialize, don't start to scream 'betrayal, marginalization or they hate us mantra'

DMerciful:
They hate us for no reason.

Even the Fulanis that brought bokoharam, herdsmen and bandits are not hated as much as Igbos when it comes to political power.

Nobody hate you or anybody.


Different parts of Nigeria are strategizing to get Political power for THEMSELVES first but you are misinterpreting it that they hate you.

nonhuman:
don't mind the dumb ass fellow Igbo is ipob and ipob is igbo

It was because of this that Wike brutally dealt with IPOB and drove them out of Rivers State.

ShobayoEmma:
2023 will definitely be interesting in both home and abroad

Relax, Atiku-Wike will be elected come 2023 to restore orderliness in the troubled Regions of Nigeria.

jimyjames:
And you couldn't use your email to recover the accounts? my friend oyigboupdate udele the vulture has many many monikers here and he plays multiple personalities, some times he even argues with himself using an ipob moniker .

Hmmn, it seems that you are a professor on Udele/ OyigboUpdate Affairs

FakeUnity:
Oga OP, there is no need for preaching.

If APC ceeds the ticket to SW, PDP is giving the ticket to the North.

Las Las, I'm 1000% sure a yorubaman won't be the next president, if SE won't be on both tickets.

yorubas have had their turn. I love yorubas but they won't be president in 2023. We don't reinforce greed and injustice where I come from.

Daalu nu!

You guys still fail to learn basic facts;

1) Political parties and NOT tribes contest elections.

2) The party that will win need to be fully on ground in at least 24 States and these cut across hundreds of tribes.

3) As at today, the PDP is the weaker party. There's no political party that has ever won election from a position of weakness.

4) For the PDP to win, it will need to attract more heavy weight political Giants into his fold, mend fences with aggrived members and present a candidate that can inspire mass support.
Presently, the PDP control 13 States. Defections from the party is not good.
Basing their strategy solely on 'Fulani ethnic group of their flag bearer' is not enough to win presidential election.

5) Trying to replace a Fulani president with another Fulani president especially with the prevailing anti-Fulani sentiments is bound to discourage substantial numbers of voters, even in the North.
Many Northern Minorities will see it as entrenching Fulani hegemony over them and will most likely vote against as they sabotaged 'Atiku as Northern consensus candidate' in the PDP presidential primaries and Buhari in main presidential election of 2011.

6) If the PDP manage to win, it will be a big plus for Nigerian democracy because it will enbolden future opposition candidates that they can defeat the ruling party and make the APC to learn from their mistakes.

Head or Tail, it's a win-win for the country irrespective of the present challenges.

richidinho:
That is why the south + the middle belt can give us an igbo president, we only need 25% votes of the core northern states

I'm from the Nigerdelta but truth must be told

Unfortunately, the South and the middle belt are regions and NOT political parties with a well defined membership and structure that can enforce decisions on their members.


If the whole Southern + Middle Belt Governors meet and decide that the S/East should be given tickets in both PDP and APC, what if
non-Igbo members of these parties contest and win the presidential primaries of these parties, how will you stop him?

richidinho:
Yaradua didnt make any move in 2007, he was considered because of this same zoning arrangement, forget PDP, APC is the ruling party now

Between 1999-2015, Nigeria was more or less one party State with a dominant PDP and several smaller parties that couldn't win presidential elections, so political decisions taken at Wadata Plaza of the PDP only needed 'elections' to formalize it. Any presidential candidate chosen by the then PDP was bound to win.

All these changed with the formaltion of an alternative viable party, the APC which eventually defeated the PDP in 2015.

Now, each political party has to consider it's own survival/possiblility of defeat in its zoning arrangements.

richidinho:
It is logical because the SW has been in govt for 16yrs now since 1999

We can all step down for a south east candidate the way we (southern candidates) stepped down for Yaradua in 2007

It is called "gentleman's agreement" just for the sake of equity and justice

I think you first need to join the race with seriousness.


The only reason the PDP is opposed to the SE ticket is because you aren't active in the presidential race.


The S/West is NOT the reason why your beloved PDP doesn't even consider you worthy enough for the ticket is because of you didn't present your candidates as formidable enough to win.


Even Gov Yahayah Bello , irrespective of his poor scores in Kogi State is making stronger moves for the presidency than Peter Obi, Orji Kalu or Okorocha.

SmartPolician:
I just dey laugh.
Southern mumu never do.
It will be interesting to see how Tinubu or Osinbajo will beat an Atiku Abubakar or Rabiu Kwankwaso in 2023.

Anybody can defeat anybody if they contest with the largest political structure.




Even if Atiku or Kwankwanso wins the presidential election in as much as the election is free and fair, it is a plus for democracy.

Tissaia:
What's is his gain in this contraception except, immoraly corrupt society. “And the life of this world is nothing but play and amusement. But far better is the house in the hereafter for those who are Al-Muttaqun (the pious). Will you not then understand?” (Quran, Al-An’aam: 32)

Is better to save our community than accept Alcohol VAT Money and lose our religion, culture and Morality. One Nigeria is actually against the North

But you have never for once rejected the Alcohol VAT money and your leaders are vehemently opposed to any re-arrangement that can make each State to be collecting it's VAT.

Honestly, I still don't understand why elected Public office holders across the length and breadth of Nigeria even have time for this man that has no electoral worth.



If FFK should contest for councillorship in his hometown of Ile-Ife , he will be defeated with a wide margin.

There are bad roads in ALL States of the Federation.
We need alternative systems of funding the constructions and maintenance of roads.


1) Let the FG hands up from the constructions and maintenance of roads and allow each States to contstructs roads within their territories.

2) More resources should be redistributed to the and generated by the States to fund and maintain their roads.

3) States that can finance the construction and maintenance of their roads can privatize these roads to the private sector.

garfield1:
Not true.it was originally introduced by the military government as sales tax.the nass renamed it VAT.states at no point ever collected VAT

You are wrong sir.

VAT was introduced by the Abacha Junta in 1994 to replace (with wider coverage) the Sales Taxes previously being collected by States Governments. Then, the renowned Tax Consultant, Olusola Adekanola & Co was saddled with the responsibilities to collect VAT on behalf of the Abacha Junta.

slimghost:
Stop typing nonsense. There is a video on YouTube where ElRufai exonerated him from any wrong-doing during the privatization exercise.
You all are hopeless hypocrites. Osibanjo is part of a failed administration and no sane person should be thinking of handing over this nation to that clueless clown.

You are unnecessarily rude, lack decorum and the capacity for comprehension even though you stands to personally gain nothing from whoever becomes the president.


Was why post about Osibanjo or handing over any Nation to anyone?


Nobody hands over power to anyone, let alone a whole nation with millions of electorates.


Any candidate desirous of becoming the president should throw his cap into the ring and the the winner be elected. QED.

slimghost:
He is a hopeless hypocrite cum tribalism. They blame Atiku for the wrongdoings of Obasanjo’s administration but struggle to exonerate the BDSM Pastor from the failures of the mannequin.
Bloody nitwits.

OBJ saddled Atiku with many tasks (especially the chairmanship of the privatization council) but he got his hands soiled.

El-Rufai who was the secretary of the council at that time wrote negatively about Atiku in his book 'The Accidental Public Servant' and Obasanjo himself made damning remarks about his conducts during the Administration.


In any case, Politics in third Countries like Nigeria is a complex art of corruption, scheming, strategy and witts.

Ovamboland:
We've been telling them that hanging the political future of a whole region on the mantra that northerners don't vote for southerners is not a strategy but mere emotional response. Even though the real evidence on ground doesn't support that mantra, the emotion is so strong. Same people who just got bitten by incumbent don't lose elections in Nigeria, you'd think they've learnt anything in 6 years.

As we continue this democratic journey, so many issues will crop up and we will deal with these issues to become better.

The Buhari Administration have certain flaws that will eventually be blessings in disguise.

Doradorwa:
He's gonna use it against you mam...

Is it a crime to have vaginal infection?

Gobdddd:
INEC should let us be.

We're ok the way they kept us.

Nigeria and Nigerians will never forgive Atahiru Jega.

They have caused us more harm than good.

They are the architect of Nigeria's problems.

Let them be more worried about the NE and leave is here alone.

It's not by force to be a Nigerian.

We don't need their crook selection, called election.

What we want is Bifar.

Am not here to argue with anyone. You can argue with your chinko fone

Relax, Atiku is cuming to give you Bifar.

Validated:
FAKE NEWS ALERT. the nation that is Tinubu newspaper has no office nor correspondent in SE and SS This is mere conjecture to massage the ego of Yoruba. If APC fields a Yoruba candidate, PDP and Atiku will flush them. By the way how will APC deal with muslim-muslim ticket

How old are you?

Are new in Nigeria?

Is this the first time that elected Governors will be decamping from one party to another,especially the opposition party to the ruling party?

Was it not in the same country that Govs Dave Umahi and Bello Matawalle decamped from the PDP to the APC? What gives you the impression that if these could decamped , others can't decamp?




I am still surprised that some of you guys on this forum really put your trust in (Nigerian) Politicians.

chigoziri2403:
This one party system will be the end of this country

Relax, Atiku is cuming.

SlayerForever:
Absolute rubbish. Logic turned on its head. In your bid to antagonizing anything Igbo you have vomited something that questions your mental health. Good to see.

This isn't about antagonism.

Tribes emerge from tribes especially tribes that live in close proximity to each.

It's very naive to assume that descent of Nembe from Igbo and Izon is possible but regard the possibility that some igbo clans may actually have descended from Nembe and Ekpeye as 'antagonism' of Igbo interests.



No tribe descended from Heaven.

SlayerForever:
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The only reason you feel you can talk is that you think Yoruba being second class citizens to the Hausa Fulani is okay so far as you get crumbs from the table. So you feel assured in your existence : All is well. This is what being an Omoluabi has become : being a cooperative errand boy to the caliphate.

When the blade does go down on the Yoruba scrotum for sure, we will be here to see you still frequent Igbo threads.

The post is about Southern Minority tribes.



You can open another thread about the Yorubas and everything that you think is wrong about them.

chiiraq802:
Then there was no strong opposition like APC... PDP was just the Big player and they agreed on when the Presidency should go to North or South.

Currently Nigeria is divided among Religious and Ethnic lines. personally i don't believe in Nigeria or sham elections ... but i seriously want a Southern President in the mould of Akeredolu or Ameachi but the Northerners and Fulanis will not think twice if given chance to vote for there brother ooo.

Some Hausa/guys that stays at my area recently went to there states ...Staunch Sai baba supporters ooo, but as they came back...

When dem dey discuss for there language about politics...dem go dey chant Sai Atiku....
These guys knows what they are doing but God no go shame us.

Nigerian democracy needs to mature.

Politics is dynamic and not static. There are many things that need to happen to define our democratic culture.

Bursting of certain myths will help to reforce the democratic culture of this country.

A candidate from ANY region can defeat a candidate from ANY region if he and his political party work well enough for the victory.

proeast:
Minorities of SS are just lucky to have Igbos as neighbors. We have enough evidence to claim most of Rivers State, half of Delta and parts of Bayelsa and Edo states as our territories. However, we are business minded in nature which now makes small ethnic groups like ijaws to be encroaching on our lands.

This mindset is the major reason most of the Southern Minority tribes supported the FG against Biafra during the civil war and are presently vehemently opposed to inclusion of their peoples into IPOB drawn Biafran Map

It is the same reason why Rivers State was created in the first instance, the same reason why the Stadium in Port Harcourt was named LIBRATION Stadium and Gov Wike recently renamed it YAKUBU GOWON Stadium.

SlayerForever:
The area of research we are focusing on now is why the Izon and Nembe don't understand each other. We observed there are similarities but we also know despite these similarities they are distinct people. It would seem the Nembe are descended from Igbo and Izon mix of cultures mainly, with the Igbo being the bulk of the mix, as well as other cultures contributing too. Hence the distinction and drift from Izon, and resulting closeness to Igbo. But it is all hypothesis until proven with more information.

It may also mean that Igbo partly descended from Nembe with contributions from neighbouring ancient tribes like Ekpeye.

chrisxxx:
That is what the fools do not know. It is even more than 6. In Obio Akpor we don't speak the same. Where I come from the same Obio Akpor with Wike, Wike will prefer I speak English. Though I understand his own Ikwerre very well but mine has some variation.
For instance if I want to say here I would say: nha Wike would pa.
There: me: nham, Wike;Pepi or pi.
The Obio and Akpor variation is about 5%.
Then when you get to Emuoha the variation becomes more pronounced. The further you move from PH to Ikwerre communities along east west road the more difference you get. But most times those in the deep end understand us in the urban areas of pH and Obio Akpor than we understand them.
They have the v sounds of the Benin.
Me; Come I say Bia someone from Emuoha would say Va.
Me; Person: I say Badu. Emuoha: Vadu.
Hall: me Obiri , Emuoha: Oviri.
Nnamdi Kanu in his London hut started broadcasting lies and educated Igbos who know the difference between the Ikwerre man and the Igbos started listening to him.
The competition we have in Rivers State is such that if truly the Ikwerres were Igbos it would not be the Igbos saying it. Kalabari would lead the campaign. If not then okirika or the Ogonis. But together with these tribes we all passed through the torture of our colonial masters the Igbos. The civil war liberated us. And that was why a stadium was built and named liberation stadium. As if that message wasn't passed clear enough Wike changed the name recently to Yakubu Gowon Stadium.

You have a deep understanding of the Igbo-Ikwerre situation.

chrisxxx:
Fool. You think the whole Ikwerre speak one dialect. Let me educate you su ntolo.
Ikwerre found in ph and Obio Akpor call kindred Rumu.
Those in Ikwerre lga call Oma and Omu.
Those close to the boundary with imo state call Umu just same as the Igbos. Those in Emuoha call Emu.

If Ikwerres itself has 3-4 dialects, how come they always say Ikwerre is a dialect of Igbo?

chrisxxx:
Ikwerre is going back to Benin. Igbo is going back to Israel. The whole of the south east belongs to the Fulanis. History has it that they first settled in South East. But for moving of cattle from place to place the Igbos arrived from Israel and took over their land.
Buhari has this history and it is a mission that will be accomplished.
Children of Gad and Eri must go back to Israel. Ikwerre must go back to Benin.

Hmnnn, I see