₦airaland Forum

coolsegun2002:
Is that not the same question we asked about the corona virus death statistics.?....yet u guys said corona virus killed thousands in Nigeria and we had no choice but to believe

How do you compare Oranges with Banana?

Deaths due to COVID-19 out of the 200 Million Nigerians that are susceptible can be blamed on anybody and a relative can't sue anybody for his beloved relation to get Justice.
Despite that this is more or less a natural phenomenon, there are many known people e.g Sen Buruji Kashamu, Sen Pepper, Ex-Gov Ajimobi and the Late Abba Kyari who died of COVID-19 infection.


However, a murder case is completely different.
Scores of Families all over Nigeria have beseiged the various Judicial Panels of Inquiries on Police Brutality to demand Justice for their relatives killed by the Police without anyone harrassing them, why can't relatives of those killed at Lekki Toll Gate go to these Panels to establish their cases in ways that can stand Judicial Scrutiny.

seunmsg:
Did you complain when Obaseki did exactly the same thing in Edo state when he defected to APC?

He didn't complain but rather applauded Obaseki for destabilizing APC.
He is only complaining now because the PDP is at the receiving end.

seunmsg:
The suspension was carried out by the Umahi faction of Eboyin PDP. The people he left behind to destabilize the party.

It seems this Dave Umahi is copying Obaseki.

ImmaculateJOE:
Where did he find this Igbo Muslim abi is she one of the efulefus that worships fame and money..?

Some Muslims are Igbo nau and there are some people in the North especially in Kano that are
of mixed Hausa-Igbo parentage.

Racoon:
So the Nwakaego name remains the gimmick they meant it to serve? The fanatic brunt of the religion is just being borne by the unfortunate poor gullible adherents while it is jolly jolly for the elites.

A leopard can never change its skin.What a family.From father, mother, son and of course other unknown family members.The trait run in their blood.

Excuse me bro, is it bad to bear such a name as 'Nwakaego'?

And which side is offended here, the 'Igbos' or the Muslim Northerners?

SweetJoystick:
sure thing, but what if it was only 1 soldier that fired directly at protesters or just one who lowered his gun after pulling trigger into the air?
There might be bullet holes, none might be there as well. It's left for the investigators to visit and make observations. Maybe they have already and don't want to make their findings public.

First ,I must thank and appreciate you for being one of the few people who still respond to this matter politely with hurling insults/curses at anyone who try to query the narratives of the so-called Lekki massacre.

Secondly, in the videos circulating online and the CNN report which the #EndSARS promoters hold to be infallible, there were multiple gunshots being fired from different soldiers wielding guns.

SweetJoystick:
Maybe you should visit the scene and check for bullet marks on buildings and cars. If people were there were hit by bullet, would it still pass and hit other things like cars and buildings? The military shooting there doesn't mean all of them present shot at the crowd. Maybe one or two of them shot at the crowd hence there not being much fatality as suggested by witnesses present on ground that 8 to 15 persons were killed.

1) If bullets are being fired randomly at the protesters, it's impossible that ALL the bullets will only hit Humanbeings, some will hit the plastic barricades, cars, Toll Plaza leaving bullet holes on these in animate objects.

2) If soldiers directly face these tightly parked crowd of protesters and opened fire at such close ranges with live bullets, nothing less than 100 people will be killed. The place will be filled with blood and chartered peices of human flesh.

3) If the CNN satellite images couldn't capture soldiers leaving Bonny Camp for the Lekki Toll Gate, how come the same Satellite imaging could not capture D.J Switch & her colleagues carrying 78 corpses over a distance of about 15 meters to the Army trucks?

This story of #Lekki Massacre is not adding up.

lastempero:
Low budget idiot with his low mental capability, not surprise though because i know Buhari supporters are brain dead.

Insults/curses/abuses like this offer no sound and logical inputs into the argument for or against the allegations that #Lekki Massacre truly happened.


Table your points why you think that 78 people were indeed killed by soldiers firing live Bullets into this tightly parked crowd of protesters at close range.

dukeprince50:
PMB signed a bill that a VP can't take over if the president dies, so no repeat of GEJ

Lies.

1) PMB didn't sign any such bill

2) It's a constitutional matter that the VP succeeds the President in case of death.

Juliusmalema:
If I say you are below 18 years una go say I don't know how to talk.

The paramter u used is an arrant nonsense and no one dares use such

out of lagos 6 milion only round 600k votes is always been coughed out


Oyo around 200-300k.

sometimes I belive nairaland is full of under age.


The whole nonsense u wrote is an outright trash.

This is false sir.
Try to verify information very well before posting.

sapientia:
Aside the fact that the people who petitioned the police are daft

The police they petitioned must be more daft

But the most daft of all was the Judge who gave order for police to investigate #ENDSARS

lol.. Imagine an innocent ant in a meeting of fowls

Nyways...

All these lies and intimidation might delay the justice

But truth will always prevail and justice will be served

Buhari, Burutai and Jide Sanwo Olu cannot escape it

Nobody, including #EndSARS promoters & protesters are above the law.
Any NIgerian citizen who feel that they have violated his rights or ran foul of our laws can petition the law enforcement agencies.

NaijaRoyalty:
I trust he would marry 2rd wife with this money

Most likely he is already a polygamist with three wives.

Commonsense99:
This is the point, there is no difference between the guy who steals from government oil pipeline without permission and the guy who digs gold for years without permission.

Who gave the artisanal miners licences to dig supposed government gold deposits for decades ? The ministry implicated itself by accepting that PAGMI is just beign formed TO REGISTER artisan criminals who have been having a field day, why attack their Niger delta counterparts?
This is not to say anyone supports such acts , but what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

You don't know much about the processes of crude Oil exploration and extraction, otherwise you ought to have known that damaging a pipeline carrying crude oil (drilled, extracted and already bought by oil companies) is different from digging the ground for 15- 20 meters, looking for shining pieces of stones that may or may not turn out to be gold upon purification.


It's practically impossible for the Federal Government to monitor the whole of this country looking for who is digging the ground. This is why I am in support of resources control by each State.

States are closer to their people and are in better positions to Know who is digging in certain areas.

Artisinal miners are in Kogi Enugu, Anambra, Osun, Plateau, Kano, Oyo, Ondo, Taraba and indeed anywhere where they can see precious stones.

Rugaria:
If Zamfara "artisanal miners" can be recognized and allowed to operate like legitimate business outfits, "oil bunkerers" in the Niger Delta should also be allowed to operate unhindered. . That means soldiers should stop shooting at local folks that are branded oil thieves for helping themselves with the resources found in their land... Folks from oil producing areas should start oil and gas exploration whenever they want without licenses and sell to NNPC?

Folks, this government is evil! You can see the kind of argeument being churned out to defend evil. Rather than implement the law, Buhari is shifting the goalpost once again! The biggest problem with Buhari is his inherent inability to call a spade a spade, whenever the culprits are from his tribe/zone/party, dude starts to speak in tongues! The man will rather run from pillar to post, Scanvenging for excuses, rather than allow the law take it's full course! Buhari and his likes should never have been anywhere near a presidential house!

1) Are mining and bunkery' the same?

2) There are Indigenes of Niger Delta (sometimes in collaboration with their State Governments) that have license for oil exploration.

3) Artisinal miners operate in ALL States where valuable minerals can be found and the business is centuries old.

doneback04:
you are not telling us the major reason why u r deflecting,

because if you say is because of the PDP is not bringing a Presidential candidate from the south east is ur major reason then you are lying because even the party you are going can never bring a presidential candidate from south east. so tell us ur major issues why you r leaving party.
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But what is wrong in the PDP zoning it's presidential ticket to the S/East despite winning ALL the presidential elections in ALL the States in the zone since 1999?

Why are you timid to ask for the PDP ticket?

blackpanda:
The agreement is that the next president must come from south east. Why is pdp refusing

Instead of most Igbo guys online to contront the PDP and demand for it's presidential ticket, they will be blaming Tinubu or calling S/West greedy

Crude oil: The processes of extracting crude oil from the earth is very sophisticated and expensive. Most of Nigeria's oil are even extracted deep into the Ocean.
Which artisans have the machines & technical know how to drill for crude oil?

What most guys do is 'oil bunkery' whereby they locate pipelines (an already invested properties of some oil companies) , burst them through bombing and start siphoning crude oil, to be refined locally in the creeks with very dangerous and environmental challenging methods.

Gold: Gold is a 'special type of metal' found in impure forms beneath the soil.

If you have enough energy, diggers, hoes & shovel, you can start digging for just 12 feets and see gems of gold in certain areas. These are collected and washed by the artisinal miners.

10mobile:
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Is this your method of comparing Agricultural outputs of different Regions?

Amumaigwe:
None other. Umahi will be humiliated last last. They woe strong opposition with fake offers, force them to dissain their former assiciates openly (to ensure he won't run back to them), then humiliate him and leave him eternally dependent on them as just an errand boy or he gets booted out and finished politically if he attempts to assert himself. (Ask Okorocha, Ngige, Nwobodo,, Nnamani et al. That is Fulani.

Stop this childish victims mentality.
The Fulanis are NOT your problem if you are too timid to ask for your rights.

Even Atiku whom you hope to back and because of whom you are fighting Umahi, is a Fulani politician.


It's better to contest (even if defeated) than to accept second fiddle position when you have every political and moral claim to the throne.

ybalogs:
Does this guy really thinks he has a chance in 2023? Umahi for President.

2023: Vote D.J Swith for President.



The Youth need to take over

Openbusiness:
But the same Army is saying they are not happy Governor Sanwo Olu DENIED inviting them to toll gate, and then they are saying Buhari authorized their deployment at the same time. So who should we now believe: Nigerian Army or......... Nigerian Army ? They gave out 2 different stories for themselves. Their sense of wuru wuru is too much

You don't understand what he said very well, probably because you didn't read the article with an open mind.

Following the breakdown of law& Order, the Governor invited the Military to restore Law & Order in the whole of Lagos State (not just Lekki) but this request can only be granted by an approval of the President who is the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.

Marryavirgin:
Paid crowd

Confusion.

He don give them something.

Fake Nigerian youths.

Na Saraki Bleep him self up.. Him for no go join Apc. Apc was designed to steal power from PDP... But he taught it was only from GEJ..

Saraki effed on this one.

Big time jonzing.

He will reap the fruits of his labour.

LOL.

If he had not joined the APC, he would have been defeated since 2015 and he wouldn't have become a Senate President.

misano:
Have been to a court before. Did you know that failure to present the CCTV footage is a case against the government already.

Guy try follow court cases very well o. Don't just be a blind Buhari supporter calling me out with nonsense. U sound stupid here o. The court don't work the way U think it o.

He who alleges must proves!


The onus lies on those who raise the allegations that a massacre has occurred to provide irrefutable evidence that there was indeed a massacre and not on Buhari as you are erroneously assuming.

Out of the thousands of camera phones there ,why NONE was able to video the corpses being carried away by DJ.switch and others to the feet of the soldiers?

Showing a guy being treated for gun shots injuries are not the same as corpses of victims shot dead.

misano:
Lol, U a are Buhari supporter & therefore a biased Judge. None of my points will make sense to U. Therefore talking with U is useless.

So, kiss the truth, DJ Switch is a heroine, she acted as protester, a doctor, reporter at the heart of trouble. What a brave woman she is. According to Davido, she did what most men couldn't even do. Goodnight.

This is NOT an evidence at all that 78 (later reduced to 15) protesters were massacred at the Lekki Toll Gate.


In addition to providing the corpses of the victims, there is need for VERIFIABLE identities of those who were shot dead at the Toll Gate e.g their names, ages, gender, address, occupations etc.

If someone is dead and even his corpse can't be recovered, certain vital information about him can give clues that he once existed.

These are necessary to make a PROOF that indeed someone was shot dead.

Rugaria:
It's now not a Yoruba affair? Why have you guys been so excited about this?? Why starting all these threads? What is the Yoruba gain if the igbos fight with the minorities??

This your assumption is figment of your imagination.

How are Aunty Bola the hairdresser, Baba Ruka the bricklayer, Paster Oriola, Oba Aladeniyi and Iya Basirat the food vendor excited about one Mr Wike saying he is not an Igbo?

Nothing concern the Yorubas in this matter sir.

osascybog:
If he was wise enough he should have avoided that statement...he would one day regret it

Regret what exactly?

For saying he doesn't belong to the Igbo tribe doesn't mean he has done any bad thing.

Rugaria:
I'm still waiting for Yorubas here to explain to all those reading why they support Wikes view about Rivers State but will Never support the view of the Oba of Lagos as it regards the ownership of Lagos! Wike said he's not igbo and all of you have been foaming in the mouth, although Amaechi his brother has a contrary view! The Oba of Lagos has been quoted to say he is not Yoruba and that Lagos is not Yoruba! My question is: why are these Yorubas still claiming Lagos and why are they not following their advice to the igbos as it regards the view on Lagos/Yorubas? Why all these threads to over labour Wikes outburst?
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This is NOT a Yoruba affairs.
Apart from few Yorubas that read about them on Nairaland, 99.8% of the Yoruba people don't even know anything called Ikwerre.


Grab a random Yoruba guy on the street of Ibadan, Ilesha, Shaki or Ile-Ife and ask him if Ikwerres are igbos.
His response will be; what is Ikwerre?

HAccord:
Oga you made no point, are you not an intellectually dubious yorubaman who are experts at approbating and reprobating at the same time even in the face of unchallegeable and unalloyed truisms and factoids.

yoruba go see white dey argue say na blue until the evil wey him dey support meet am. Chameleons...Shift go one side biko.

All these are irrelevant and unrelated to the subject matter.


How will Igbos dominate the Minorities to punish as earlier postulated.



As our democracy mature, no ethnic will be able to dominate another ethnic group.

Omezif:
This man is very smart using that name wike since gathering votes thinking that igbo doesn't know what they are doing, now he want to tell us he's not vomiting trash.

Which name was he bearing from birth before joining Politics?

HAccord:
Oyaburukurudeen our yorrubar muslim lamentationist , we are not the ones jumping from one media house to another shouting 'I am not killing Igbos o! and inviting and begging and bribing Igbo governors and Ohaneze to plead with their people to save his political hide.

Osawike Nyesomwen have not slept in days after the Obigbo fall out. The reaction shock am. He don turn liability to PDP overnight. Umahi sef don leave am jump ship. He knows that if they don't cut Osawike lose, the party go sink finally.

Osawike should consider contesting local government chairman in Ikwerreland iwuhuruosaland in 2023. That's his best bet now.

This is not how to debate issues intelligently.

You ought to dispute the points I raised.

HAccord:
Ndigbo have to start being very assertive in politics with minorities, our carefree biri kam biri attitude is attracting a lot of insults from some of these hopeless minorities lately.

Join the the Fulani and Yorubas in dominating and asserting yourselves politically over minorities. That's how to treat minorities in Nigeria, if you give them an inch, they'll be asking for your father's hectare.

Apart from boasting online, there is nothing Igbos can do against them politically.

They have their own States, on the basis of which they can become Governors, Senators,Ministers on their own without Igbos having a say in it.

Fortunately for them, their States have better economic status than Igbo States (compare budgets & IGR of Rivers Vs Anambra or Imo States) making them to have better political leverages.

Wike will not be this powerful if he is the Governor of a poorer State like Enugu or Abia State with lesser resources to fund the opposition party, the PDP.

If they can win the primaries of a major political parties like the PDP or APC, they can also become President with little or no support from the Igbos.


The creation of States and a different Geopolitical zone for the Southern Minorities has removed them beyond the domination by Igbos.

In Summary: Wike understands their freedom from Igbos and he is making it obvious

Racoon:
There is no where I forced the Igbo identity on Wike.I simply draw from the historical fact that there are some Igbos who are Ikwerre by nature.

Any of them who wish not to identify with the Igbo identity it is their own cup of tea(identity crisis). After all, there are also Igbos in other parts of the world who would not want to be known as such.

So be guided in your senseless vertuperations.I guess you are related to the our satanic brother-the notorious Col.Frank Omenka of the inglorious DMI day during the Abacha regime?
cc: Lalasticlala, OAM4J Mynd44

Guy, you must be above 40 years!
You made me to remember the 1990s and the personalities that shaped the events of that era.

Frank Omenka, Zakari Biu, Sergeant Rogers were Abacha's Agents of Terror