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ybalogs:
Does this guy really thinks he has a chance in 2023? Umahi for President.

2023: Vote D.J Swith for President.



The Youth need to take over

Openbusiness:
But the same Army is saying they are not happy Governor Sanwo Olu DENIED inviting them to toll gate, and then they are saying Buhari authorized their deployment at the same time. So who should we now believe: Nigerian Army or......... Nigerian Army ? They gave out 2 different stories for themselves. Their sense of wuru wuru is too much

You don't understand what he said very well, probably because you didn't read the article with an open mind.

Following the breakdown of law& Order, the Governor invited the Military to restore Law & Order in the whole of Lagos State (not just Lekki) but this request can only be granted by an approval of the President who is the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.

Marryavirgin:
Paid crowd

Confusion.

He don give them something.

Fake Nigerian youths.

Na Saraki Bleep him self up.. Him for no go join Apc. Apc was designed to steal power from PDP... But he taught it was only from GEJ..

Saraki effed on this one.

Big time jonzing.

He will reap the fruits of his labour.

LOL.

If he had not joined the APC, he would have been defeated since 2015 and he wouldn't have become a Senate President.

misano:
Have been to a court before. Did you know that failure to present the CCTV footage is a case against the government already.

Guy try follow court cases very well o. Don't just be a blind Buhari supporter calling me out with nonsense. U sound stupid here o. The court don't work the way U think it o.

He who alleges must proves!


The onus lies on those who raise the allegations that a massacre has occurred to provide irrefutable evidence that there was indeed a massacre and not on Buhari as you are erroneously assuming.

Out of the thousands of camera phones there ,why NONE was able to video the corpses being carried away by DJ.switch and others to the feet of the soldiers?

Showing a guy being treated for gun shots injuries are not the same as corpses of victims shot dead.

misano:
Lol, U a are Buhari supporter & therefore a biased Judge. None of my points will make sense to U. Therefore talking with U is useless.

So, kiss the truth, DJ Switch is a heroine, she acted as protester, a doctor, reporter at the heart of trouble. What a brave woman she is. According to Davido, she did what most men couldn't even do. Goodnight.

This is NOT an evidence at all that 78 (later reduced to 15) protesters were massacred at the Lekki Toll Gate.


In addition to providing the corpses of the victims, there is need for VERIFIABLE identities of those who were shot dead at the Toll Gate e.g their names, ages, gender, address, occupations etc.

If someone is dead and even his corpse can't be recovered, certain vital information about him can give clues that he once existed.

These are necessary to make a PROOF that indeed someone was shot dead.

Rugaria:
It's now not a Yoruba affair? Why have you guys been so excited about this?? Why starting all these threads? What is the Yoruba gain if the igbos fight with the minorities??

This your assumption is figment of your imagination.

How are Aunty Bola the hairdresser, Baba Ruka the bricklayer, Paster Oriola, Oba Aladeniyi and Iya Basirat the food vendor excited about one Mr Wike saying he is not an Igbo?

Nothing concern the Yorubas in this matter sir.

osascybog:
If he was wise enough he should have avoided that statement...he would one day regret it

Regret what exactly?

For saying he doesn't belong to the Igbo tribe doesn't mean he has done any bad thing.

Rugaria:
I'm still waiting for Yorubas here to explain to all those reading why they support Wikes view about Rivers State but will Never support the view of the Oba of Lagos as it regards the ownership of Lagos! Wike said he's not igbo and all of you have been foaming in the mouth, although Amaechi his brother has a contrary view! The Oba of Lagos has been quoted to say he is not Yoruba and that Lagos is not Yoruba! My question is: why are these Yorubas still claiming Lagos and why are they not following their advice to the igbos as it regards the view on Lagos/Yorubas? Why all these threads to over labour Wikes outburst?
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This is NOT a Yoruba affairs.
Apart from few Yorubas that read about them on Nairaland, 99.8% of the Yoruba people don't even know anything called Ikwerre.


Grab a random Yoruba guy on the street of Ibadan, Ilesha, Shaki or Ile-Ife and ask him if Ikwerres are igbos.
His response will be; what is Ikwerre?

HAccord:
Oga you made no point, are you not an intellectually dubious yorubaman who are experts at approbating and reprobating at the same time even in the face of unchallegeable and unalloyed truisms and factoids.

yoruba go see white dey argue say na blue until the evil wey him dey support meet am. Chameleons...Shift go one side biko.

All these are irrelevant and unrelated to the subject matter.


How will Igbos dominate the Minorities to punish as earlier postulated.



As our democracy mature, no ethnic will be able to dominate another ethnic group.

Omezif:
This man is very smart using that name wike since gathering votes thinking that igbo doesn't know what they are doing, now he want to tell us he's not vomiting trash.

Which name was he bearing from birth before joining Politics?

HAccord:
Oyaburukurudeen our yorrubar muslim lamentationist , we are not the ones jumping from one media house to another shouting 'I am not killing Igbos o! and inviting and begging and bribing Igbo governors and Ohaneze to plead with their people to save his political hide.

Osawike Nyesomwen have not slept in days after the Obigbo fall out. The reaction shock am. He don turn liability to PDP overnight. Umahi sef don leave am jump ship. He knows that if they don't cut Osawike lose, the party go sink finally.

Osawike should consider contesting local government chairman in Ikwerreland iwuhuruosaland in 2023. That's his best bet now.

This is not how to debate issues intelligently.

You ought to dispute the points I raised.

HAccord:
Ndigbo have to start being very assertive in politics with minorities, our carefree biri kam biri attitude is attracting a lot of insults from some of these hopeless minorities lately.

Join the the Fulani and Yorubas in dominating and asserting yourselves politically over minorities. That's how to treat minorities in Nigeria, if you give them an inch, they'll be asking for your father's hectare.

Apart from boasting online, there is nothing Igbos can do against them politically.

They have their own States, on the basis of which they can become Governors, Senators,Ministers on their own without Igbos having a say in it.

Fortunately for them, their States have better economic status than Igbo States (compare budgets & IGR of Rivers Vs Anambra or Imo States) making them to have better political leverages.

Wike will not be this powerful if he is the Governor of a poorer State like Enugu or Abia State with lesser resources to fund the opposition party, the PDP.

If they can win the primaries of a major political parties like the PDP or APC, they can also become President with little or no support from the Igbos.


The creation of States and a different Geopolitical zone for the Southern Minorities has removed them beyond the domination by Igbos.

In Summary: Wike understands their freedom from Igbos and he is making it obvious

Racoon:
There is no where I forced the Igbo identity on Wike.I simply draw from the historical fact that there are some Igbos who are Ikwerre by nature.

Any of them who wish not to identify with the Igbo identity it is their own cup of tea(identity crisis). After all, there are also Igbos in other parts of the world who would not want to be known as such.

So be guided in your senseless vertuperations.I guess you are related to the our satanic brother-the notorious Col.Frank Omenka of the inglorious DMI day during the Abacha regime?
cc: Lalasticlala, OAM4J Mynd44

Guy, you must be above 40 years!
You made me to remember the 1990s and the personalities that shaped the events of that era.

Frank Omenka, Zakari Biu, Sergeant Rogers were Abacha's Agents of Terror

gidgiddy:
Lets not get things twisted, the argument about Ikwerre and Igbos has been an ongoing thing long before there was anything called IPOB. Everybody is free to choose whatever identity they want. The problem is when some people cannot stick to one identity. I used the example of Chibuike Amaechi and Uche Okwukwu because they are well know Ikwerre men who say the are Igbo. The reality is that there are many Ikwerres out there, particularly in the Elele axis, who say they are Igbo.

I said it on another thread that my friend is dating an Ikwerre girl who doesnt joke with her Igboness, but the girls uncle who is also an Ikwerre man, says they are not Igbos. If there are Ikwerres who say they are Igbo, and those who say they are not, they should all go sort out the identity crisis that has engulfed them.

It is very important because there is no way to tell the difference between any Igbo and Ikwerre, they speak the same language and answer the same names.

This is very similar to the Ilorin case.

Although most Ilorin people believe and accept that they are Yorubas.

However, the elites sometimes claim non-Yoruba identities and these are the descendants of Fulani Jihardists, Nupe merchants and Hausa slaves in Ilorin.

In Ilorin, however virtually every body is united under the banner of Islam (I haven't seen a true Ilorin Indigene who is a Christian), so Islamic indentity and centuries of complex inter-tribal marriages has blurred tribal indentities. It's difficult to differentiate one Ilorin man from another.

Igboid:
I wonder what other reply some of us are expecting from Ikwerres.
Obio/Akpor people have representatives in Ogbakor Ikwerre and we know the official position of Ogbakor Ikwerre on Ikwerre identity. Its a Biniphilic one.

I'm ashamed with some of our people on how we have handled this issue.

Normally Ohanaeze Ndiigbo should have since released official public message denouncing Ikwerre and follow it up with sacking all the Ikwerre leeches in Ohanaeze Ndiigbo, and then warning the Nigerian public that any Ikwerre claiming Igbo are committing impersonation.

Your suggestions are very funny and showed that you are neither as experienced nor knowledgeable as the leadership of Ohaneze.

Membership of an ethnic group is based on self-identity i.e you are igbo if you agree that indeed you are an Igbo.
There's no universally acceptable and unambigous definition of who is an igbo or not. The same is true for Nupe, Tiv, Yoruba, Igala.

You have no right to say Mr X is not Igbo if he calls himself Igbo.

Dedetwo:
The same Elechi Amadi enlisted into Nigerian army as Igbo. He ran from Kaduna to Enugu in 1966 as Igbo officer. He became the vice principal of Asa High School under Onwuma as Igbo. However when Elechi Amadi sneaked back to Nigeria after the fall Igweocha (Port Harcourt), he remembered he was not inIgbo.

Not all those who fought for Biafra were Igbos.

Igboid:
Don't get it confused

Uche Okwukwu and other opportunistic Ikwerres are all part of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo because Ohanaeze is a useless organization that is obsolete and not in sync with modernity which exactly why the organization has no grassroot support in Igbo land.

Even as UK pulled out of EU, if the EU leaders are stupid enough to make an opportunistic English man claiming to be anti Brexit the Secretary general of EU with the pay package and power that comes with it,do you think such British will decline? The answer is No.
But does EU making an English man the Secretary general of EU change the fact that the British back home have no interest in being part of EU.

That Uche Okwukwu an Ikwerre man is even allowed to be part of Ohanaeze let alone rise to post of Secretary general is a testament to how useless Ohanaeze Ndiigbo is as an organization.
No Ikwerre or any one whose majority of his people are Igbophobic should be part of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo if the organization is a serious one.

So you IPOB should stop quoting this Uche Okwukwu,because you are only underlying the failure of Igbo leadership as epitomized by Ohanaeze when you use Uche Okwukwu as example of Ikwerre being Igbo.

From the ways I see it, Ikwerre looks like a hybrid of tribes or an amalgam of several ancient smaller tribes +Igbo settlers+ Bini migrants+ Ijawa and/Ogoni minorities.

tunapawizzy:
sincerely there is nothing bad...i am not igbo but i sincerely believe if Nigeria will work the south east deserves a shot at the presidency NOW...my problem is the governor is not decamping because of igbo presidency...because he knows APC is the last party that will zone presidency to the south east...

He will contest for the presidential primaries in the APC.
Let him try his luck and this is better than the PDP that has already outzoned the Igbos out of the presidential race by insisting that the Presidency should remain in the North , even after 8 years of Buhari.

dadavivo:
Stop your preaching, Umahi has been a traitor since first tenure. We thought he would have jumped to APC since then, but he knows he won't win re-election in ebonyi state with APC party.

What the traitor is doing now is because he's not going for 3rd term. As for being a president, we would rather prefer Buhari son Yusuf to be President than Umahi.
PDP made him what he is today, deputy governor, to PDP state chairman to governor two terms. And such person heart is in the North? No Na , e no go work

So decamping to APC means his heart is with the North?

Is Atiku (whom you love so much and prefer to be president) not a Northern?

tunapawizzy:
he says he is leaving PDP for APC because pdp refused to zone presidency to the south east.....he should not forget to decamp to another party when APC too zones the presidency to another zone that is not south east...awon weyrey

Since 1999, the PDP has won all the presidential elections in ALL the States in the S/East.

Is there anything bad in the PDP zoning it's presidential ticket to the SouthEast?

Techwriter:
Last last the plan of the North will work. Even if they zone presidency to the East it will still be in the hands of their puppet. So 8 years Igbo presidency will simply be a continuation of Arenwa dominion. No change.

At the top they care little about you except what works for them. But you will be on Nairaland supporting one of them or another at the detriment of the future of your children.

The spirit of the Endsars movement should not be alive on the street where people are prone to loose their lives. Well meaning Nigerians should be online campaigning against the system that perpetuates corruption, nepotism and bad governance. I was expecting to be rrafing comments that puts them on their feet. Something that tells them we dome with the old system and the players. Not age but system. Until we have a Nigerian that is fresh or has proven his capacity without a God father influence. We need to have a standard to use in deciding who to support in the next election. That's what we should be doing now not discussing the selfish moves of thieves

Cant we try
Tunde Bakare, Peter obi, pat utomi, fela Dorotaye, etc

But we can't be trying people who sit in their houses and aren't contesting.

Igboid:
Exactly my point.
Obiigbo being carved out into Rivers does not erase the fact that the indigenous people of Obiigbo remains Igbo and their land remains part and parcel of Igbo land.

In the case of Obiigbo, there has been a clear attempt by non Igbos in Rivers to deIgbonize them, which started with renaming of the town from Obiigbo to Oyiigbo, and then claims and counter claims by Rivers people that Obiigbo people are migrants in their own land and should vacate the land and migrate to Abia state.

These Igbophobic elements in Rivers state don't seem to realize that states are artificial creation and that Obiigbo people have always occupied their land up until it was transferred to Rivers state.

1) The non-Igbo peoples of Rivers State don't have the power to change anybody's ethnic group.

2) The People of Oyigbo LGA, Rivers State can call for boundary adjust to take them to Rivers State.

It's a constitutionally allowed process.

tfash96:
If I was among the victims I wouldn't be moved an inch..my 2 bank accounts that are empty already... You sha can't trace me to my Luno account.. Having bank accounts in Nigeria doesn't have meaning anymore nowadays.. They'll just be deducting like mad people

The people whose accounts were frozen were not the ordinary 'foot soldiers' of the protests but the real leaders/coordinators who received money from certain sources to fund the protests.

This mean that if the prices are right for them, they can get funds to bring the Government down or render the country ungovernable.

Not only that they are not neutral but they constitute security risks to the peace & stability of this country

Igboid:
Kabba taken from Kwara is like Ezza taken from Enugu. They are still in same geopolitical zone which is NC and SE respectively.

I can't speak about Ayere as I don't know much about it. But we have some Igbo speaking communities in Benue and Cross River too.
But those are different issues.

The carving out of Ndokis and ASA people in Obigbo from SE to Rivers state was done with malice and evil intent.
Likewise the division of Egbema into two with the oil producing part put in Rivers and the "then" non oil producing part left in SE.

States in Nigeria are units of Administration and not necessarily ethnic homelands whose boundaries may be difficult to establish.



Geographical landmarks, certain Historical events and sometimes aspirations of the people were used to set boundaries between States.

Examples of what you raised abound all over the country.

Jebba is divided into two, one part in Kwara and the other part in Niger State.

Owena is partly in Osun and partly in Ondo State.

Akokoland is partly in Ondo & partly in Edo State
KareKare peoples are partly in Bauchi & partly in Yobe State.

Some Ekiti Towns are carved into Kwara State (They even have EKiti LGA, Kwara State) while the bulk of Ekiti form their own State in the S/West.

StaffofOrayan:
Oga you are a dirty liar
Every year, there are budgetary allocations for education, now you are stupidly saying 'don't bother yourself how they stole it dry, go and build your own"

I guess that's how Dubai became great

Mumu Nigerians

Opa Oranmiyan: is there provision for the running of Private Schools in the Budget for Education in your State?

kingxsamz:
This is the dumbest thread I've come across. And so, what if they supported or voted for Atiku? Isn't that their choice. Or is it a crime to support a presidential candidate? The way these Buhari zombies think sometimes ehn. Smh.

Their actions were partisan and politically motivated.

They misled many Nigerians and incited the gullible youths that the Gov't forces had killed 78 protesters at the Lekki Toll Gate.

Eriokanmi:
Who told you pdp and apc would be allowed to come back come 2023? Mtcheew! Maybe she was one of atiku's fans before, before just the way I carried buhari for head in 2015 and last year before I later realised he's a political scam. I had to pull down my tweets when the attack was much on me for supporting Buhari at some point. We all learn from our mistakes.

They are strongly anti-Tinubu and pro-PDP people.

Some of them intentionally fabricated fake news to paint the Gov't and incite the masses against the ruling party.

StaffofOrayan:
You forgot to mention where they got the money to set up a school good enough for the elites, especially after just finishing NYSC,
Did they have to dig their own bore hole and fix their own electricity? Why didn't they build another for the poor? Sounds like they were children of the elites themselves?

Last I checked Yobe has more poor people than rich?

You and the op are confused,
Nigeria's problem is simple, the same idiots that destroyed Nigeria would NEVER fix it and unfortunately Buhari is an epitome of such idiocy.

The School became a success story OVER TIME.

Most big businesses you see today started small and must have overcomed difficulties before becoming success stories.

It doesn't matter if they started in Japan, S/Africa, India, USA, Afghanistan or Canada. There are problems to be solved before you can become truly successful.

In the US, the major political parties don't 'chose' an outsider as their presidential candidates.

You have to join the parties, campaign vigorously to win their tickets and most importantly, in the US, it's very difficult for someone who hasn't contested and won any election before to be elected as President (Donald Trump is a very rare exception in the last 60years).

Odingo1:
Yoruba man Adeyanju Deji calling for second wave of protest after they will blame Igbos for destroying Lagos.

The second wave of the Protest should be held in Onitsha or Enugu.

dvkot:
lagos is where we are gonna protest again continue wetting your pants, till we see justice

Okay, but don't shout if you are properly dealt with.