₦airaland Forum

Why not let's wait for 2023 to put this to test through an election.

duncun:
Let me burst your chilled Bobo. Hausas will prefer a liberal igbo president than to que under tinubu who will end up controlling their political class like he's trying to achieve in sw. Tinubu is known for creating crisis and division to achieve his political gain so he will be a bad president to the north and dwn south.

Very high on senseless emotional rantings as usual but low on logic or common sense.


Tinubu is a Nigerian citizen who like all other Nigerians have the right to join or form ANY Political party of his choice, campaign and support his party's candidate or aspire for ANY elective positions including the Presidency.
How the exercise of all these amount to greed or cause disunity or expose any region to ridicule is what I don't know.


Sponsor , support and campaign for your own candidate or better still join the Presidential race and leave Tinubu to pursue his Political ambitions within the armbit of the law...You can't take away Tinubu's right to contest for the Presidency.

FortuneDeGreat:
Tinubu's presidential ambition is dead on arrival, a man who hasn't gotten the trust and approval of his party particularly the northern forces in the party, a man who lacked the ability to deliver his party in the SW in previous two general elections.

The fact remains that tinubu has succeeded in exposing the entire southern Nigeria to the north, he has created the disunity between the two major ethnic groups of the south, yes he has or in a great deal helped to further and expand it. The north will continue to capitalize on this to the political detriment of the south. The infamous handiwork of Tinubu's greed and quest to taste federal power.

Only in his dreams will he ever achieve that bogus ambition.

Some funny guys who haven't won even an SUG Election before will be beating their chests on Nairaland that someone can NOT be president.

Do you know anyone who can be president ,or you only know who can not be?

sapoyoro:
some parts of the SW u meant to say.. seeing as despite tinubu' s perceived fame in SW,his party share votes almost equally with the opposition both in 2015 and particularly in 2019..
let's be honest with ourselves bro..tinubu cant be president..
controversial and has a lot of baggages...
and like I pointed to u earlier,his failure will start right from SW.

Reversed Psychology.

anaton:
You are the one that is extremely stupid.We no want una presidency,Na by force??You that have the presidency, how is your life better than mine.

Sir, there is nothing like being cunning and smart in democratic elections...How does a citizen aspiring or contesting for Presidential election translate to the down fall of a whole ethnic group?

How has the Yorubas stop other people from aspiring or contesting for the Presidency?

franchasng:
The truth is, Yorubas are not being fair or sensible at all and it will come to hunt them.

Since 1970, Yoruba has ruled Nigeria twice, and also had a close opportunity to rule thrice as all Nigerians, especially Igbos and North gathered to vote for OBJ to compensate Yoruba's loss of MKO.

But Yorubas under the drug political leadership of Tinubu has become too greedy, too petty, too selfish and too power hungry and this may lead to their political downfall sooner than later.

Yoruba left power in 2007, after ruling Nigeria for good 8 years, the same Yoruba refused Southsouth from completing 8yrs, screaming Jonathan corrupt, Jonathan corrupt, but we all know that OBJ was and is the father of Democratic leadership corruption in Nigeria but all Nigerian tribes allowed him to complete his tenure in peace.

Now the same Yorubas want to rule Nigeria again after leaving Presidency 12 years ago and after being VP for another 8yrs counting, haba na, Yorubas should reason well.

Northeast has not produced a President, Southeast has not, if Yotubas are truly reasonable and enlightened, common sense ought to tell them to support Southeast and Northeast Presidency but will they I doubt because they are too petty yet they turn back to call others tribalistic, all Nigerian tribes are watching oh.

Anyway, the only way APC can manage to remain in power through their usual inconclusive election rigging is to follow this arrangement come 2023:

1.) APC - North, PDP - North: APC will likely win by rigging with help of APC President Buhari

2.) APC - SE, PDP - SE: APC will win also

3.) APC - SW, PDP - North: PDP will win hands down!

So if APC want to remain in federal power, they should field a Northern President, of which PDP will definitely do.

If APC make the mistake of fielding a Yoruba Presidential candidate, they will fail woefully because NE, NC, SE, SS will vote massively for PDP with northern candidate.

Yorubas are not even supposed to be thinking about Presidency in the next 12 - 16yrs, and after then, they can comfortably grab it with the support of all Nigerians but if they think they can get it by being cunning and smart, then they will fail and become politically irrelevant, remember Buhari have indirectly told Tinubu that he didn't make him President in 2015, that it was God, and that Southwest didn't give him block vote, you think the north don't know that Southwest don't give them block votes as evident in the results of 2015 and 2019 elections

They know, they only align with Southwest to divide the south and to reduce the Igbo effect in Southern Nigeria

On the contrary, I think the SW politicians ,not just Tinubu should contest for the Presidency in 2023 , this will enrich our democratic culture.





Great men take bold steps with calculated rusks and damn the consequences!

Ziggylady:
The Memo is gathering momentum therefore i cant help but laugh at the delusion called 2023 Yoruba Presidency

Mumus,keep hallicunating about how North voted for MKO in 1993 so will leave their fellow Northerner and vote your oblong skulls in 2023 because you have two heads..

Block-heads

Sir, where were Ojukwu, Chinua Achebe, Sir Louis Mbanefo and the Biafran soldiers getting their foods from? Why weren't they malnourished?



1) It's a great lie that Gowon said it's Nigerian soldiers that will be distributing foods to Biafran population.

2) What led to the total blockade in the first instance? It was because Nigerian Military searched a suspected International aid plane and weapons were found in it.

3) No serious country at war will allow ships and planes unfettered access to it's opponents during war time.

4) Next time before you start Biafran Civil war-2, think and plan how you will set aside some people to be growing foods crops for your population and how you will have access to the outer world i.e seaports.

5) Gaza has been under land, air and sea blockade by The State of Israel for many years.
Nothing goes in or out of Gaza because Israel want to ensure it's own security.

Today, Gaza is more or less a very large open air prison.











Let

gidgiddy:
Just analyse what you said. How can ships sail into Biafra? Which sea port in Biafra would they come to? The only sea ports Biafra had at that time was port Harcourt and Calabar seaports and had been captured by Nigeria

What Ojukwu agreed to was that relief supplies would be shipped by aid organisations and also distributed by them. The problem was that Gowon insisted that it would be his military government that would conduct the distribution themselves and Ojukwu could not take that risk. It would have been suicide for Ojukwu to have allowed armed Nigerian Soldiers into Biafra under the guise of food distribution, those Soldiers could easily have launched an attack on Biafra its self

It was the government of Nigeria's duty to see that aid gets into Biafra as it is well known that aid organisations such as red cross and the United nation will not smuggle weapons for nobody.

So do the people doing business in Osun have two Heads?

Robert129:
Lol. Okay, I've heard you. But my point is osun state is not where one can settle in search of job or doing business.

You have listened to the Biafran propaganda for so long!

The FG allowed for a safe land corridor for humanitarian aids to pass to Biafran CIVILIAN population but Lt Col Ojukwu rejected the offer but instead insisted that the FG should allow free passage of Ships (used to smuggle weapons) to Biafra.

Without the total blockade, Biafran Civil war would have lingered till 1975-1980 , causing the deaths of more people.

Now, answer these questions;










1) Which Government said no? Was it the Government of Biafra or the Federal Government of Nigeria?

2) Why did Biafra allow Nigeria to determine Biafran access to the sea?

3) Did Biafra consider how she will feed her teeming population during the war without relying on the cooperation of Nigeria?

4) Did the FG have right to determine what come and go out of Nigeria?

gidgiddy:
Using starvation as a tool to fight war is a war crime, it's one of the reasons former President of Liberia, Charles Taylor, is in jail

It cannot be that organisations like the red cross and UN are seeking to bring in food supplies into Biafra so as to alleviate the suffering of civilians and the government says no.

That is wrong on all levels and should be condemned by every right thinking person

When you unilaterally declare secession ,what do you think will be the consequences?

Who did you appoint to supply you foods during the war and he denied you?

gidgiddy:
You are an example of why the history of the Biafran war should be thought in schools although the federal government will never do that because it would expose the fact that they were the cause of the whole thing.

The federal government declared war on Biafra, not the other way around.

Also, it is a war crime to deny people the source of getting food in the name of fighting a war

Thousands of Non-Igbo Nigerians also died during the Civil war.

Ijaw, Urhorobo, Yoruba, Ishan, Tiv, Igala, Nupe etc also died during the civil war.
Battles were fought even in Okitipupa and Ore.

Stingman:
When people are going to school, you prefer to engage in drinking...What was Nigeria civil war...then? Why wasn't the Yorubas, the Ijaws and other tribe attacked in the crisis? Is that why history was removed from Nigeria schools?

Which one are we to believe now?

Many times, you have drummed it several times in every body's ear that your Region is the most developed part of Nigeria outside Lagos which you like to refer to as 'No man's land' and you like deride other regions of Nigeria (showing old pictures of sections of Ibadan) but when you want to gain Political sympathy, you always claim the most marginalized and undeveloped part of Nigeria.

Stingman:
This is how your government is telling the SE people that they have moved on after the war...that they too should move...


"...The South East has the highest infrastructural deficit in the country.." Tony Momoh APC Chieftain.

Sir, chose your battles carefully.





Yoruba Muslims are NOT the causes of your war and present problems.

Ume1991:
no way, we will continue to preach Biafra and fight every Yoruba Muslim in this forum until Biafra comes.

Rwandan GENOCIDE is different from Biafran CIVIL WAR.

Stingman:
Bitter hypocrite!

Can you explain why your fake pastor VP went to Rwanda to celebrate and honor 150,000 people killed in their war but not able to do so for more than 3 million killed in his own country? Again mention anything the federal government has done to ensure these people that they have moved on. Nothing is there to show. Wicked Nigeria federal government.

Which Northern State? According to your casual observations or according to which research?

The NBS 2017 report put Oyo and Osun as the first and second largest producers of Poultry products.









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Why not start Scarp metal business or start buying Agricultural produce (like cashew nuts, palm kernel nuts ,kolanuts or Cocoa) for exports? You can start buying in small quantities and sell to big exporters, with time, you too can become a commodity merchant/exporter.

Osun State is the second largest producer of Eggs and poultry products I Nigeria.

Robert129:
Lot keh.
Excluding international breweries in ilesa, there's no other industry in osun.

You can pass your message without derailing it's content as well as this thread.

The Nigerian media is NOT a Christian 'organization'. There are thousands of Muslim Journalists and Media executives in Nigeria.

The Social media knows no Religion and can be used to deseminate information about the kidnap.

May Allah protect her and touch the hearts of Boko Haramists to end the violence against our citizens and the unreasonable shedding of blood.

Mahsums:
B4 u talk trash remember this

Why do you persistently feel the need to compare your tribe with others?
Why can't you just comment without trying to ridicule or belittle others?


The guys that roll on the floors before Nnamdi Kanu or lie down to lick his urine belong to which tribe?

jesmond3945:
my brother thats one thing i love about our people. We can never succumb to any soul. Even here in Uk, all my igbo brothers are standing up to the white man unlike other tribes here.

It's most likely,a case of mental illness.

oyahitme:
@Gistvic.com

A lady slumped on seeing the Emir of Kano Mahammadu Sunusi II, she was saying “Alhamdulillah yau Naga Sarki” which will be roughly translated as “Thank you God I seen the Emir today.” Gistvic Reports.

She was assisted back on her feet as she continue saying “Alhamdulillah yau Naga Sarki”.

Watch Video Below:

Source: https://www.gistvic.com/2019/05/lady-slumped-on-seeing-emir-of-kano.html

Don't say that.

If Atiku had won, he would have given them a date for Biafran referendum

Bighead9:
Trash.

Biafra is just a pipe dream, Igbo's should quit wasting their time. Cause the North will never allow you have Biafra.

If Nigeria is splited, there won't be a Nigeria again,so the scenario you are painting won't arise.

Donmedra:
just admit Yorubas are afraid to see Igbos leave

By then Hausa will take all positions and give Yoruba house keeping.

Only parasitic and scarred people begged for unity like Yorubas are doing

Not so sir.

How much do you know about Osun State?

shollay09:
the only job you have in osun state is civil service job or banking job

QUE SERA SERA.




Psalm 62:11=> Once has God spoken, twice have I heard, that power belongs to God.

Osun State.



In this State, if you are earning #70,000 you will be better off than those earning #120,000 in Abuja, Lagos or Port Harcourt

Sir, do you know the meaning of EU and fully understand the concept?

Is Nigeria a member of EU?

grandstar:
EU member countries have thrown their doors fully open to goods from other member states. There are no import duties amongst them. Yet their industries are doing well. That's just one example where what you said is completely wrong.

Please show me with proof where what you said is true

No Country develop by opening it's borders for importation of all manners of things including what they can produce locally.

Dangote is not the only manufacturer of cement in Nigeria. BUA, Ibeto and West African Lafarge (Elephant cement) also manufacture cement.


You can also start your own cement factory that will be selling cement at #1000 per bag.

grandstar:
Asking government to ban a certain product for your benefit is rent seeking .

The high cost of cement adversely affected the construction and housing industry.

A player in that industry said scores of projects where abandoned due to the high cost of cement.

More jobs were lost than was gained from that ban.

1) There are more Islamic Scholars in Kano Emirate ,Zaauzau or Bauchi Emirates than Ilorin Emirate.

2) The Ilorin Emirate is not closer to their people than Kano Emirate.
Kano Emirate is not only close to their people, the Emirate Council is actually an extended family of descendants of Dabo.

3) Ilorin Emirate is multi-ethnic in composition ,so also are Kano, Hadejia, Katsina, Daura, Fika, Bade, Bauchi ,Gombe or Adamawa Emirates.

YUNGCONCEPT11:
Let me now make u understand something ilorin emirate comprises of only 5 local govt....and no other town in ilorin emirate has the requirement of emirate ....Ilorin is very different from the all other emirate ...other Emirs are very far from their people...ilorin people know themself vivdly, they can easily trace them self to thier various compound...another factor is a ilorin emirate is the only emirate that has a wider range of Islamic scholars in compared to other emirate that is why u see that ilorin scholars are the most renowned Islamic scholars in recent time. Other Emirate are loosing their spiritual legacies but ilorin emirate is still glued with it's spiritual legacies ...remember ilorin emirate is made up of different tribes coming together...there are many things behind ilorin that it's only we the indigine of ilorin dat are aware of it...IF IT'S ILORIN... JUST DONT THINK OR IT

Who are the 'them'?

Theboss100:
Why Is It That U Guys Associate Bad Things From Them To Them Alone Without Bringing Up Nigeria To It? But Quick To Bring Nigeria To Light When Good Things Come 4rm Them. The Bitter Truth Is, The Future Of This Country Hangs On The Shoulders Of This People. We Must Trust Them To Deliver Us Else We'll Remain Stagnant 4ever. Is Not A Curse, That's The Bitter Truth

You are partially right.
Gaya is an ancient town that existed before Kano was formed around the Data Hills.

Bichi, Tofa, Karaye etc have existed as independent Kingdoms long before Fulani Jihadists conquered them and annexed into Kano Emirate.

teufelein:
I don't know, but from the deep history I have been reading, perhaps there is something deeper to this Kano brouhaha than Sanusi.
Don't get me wrong.
The immediate cause of the current defanging of SLS is political.
But seems Ganduje may have capitalised on a generational feud between the Hausa indigenes and the Fulani conqueror descendants of Othman Dan Fodio.

Kano, the 1,000 year old kingdom was conquered at some point by Othman Dan Fodio who eventually entrenched Islam and gave the throne to his entrusted allies while deposing and demoting the local Hausa monarchs.
I am being made to believe many see the division of the Kano emirate as a righting of some historical wrong.
I don't have the complete picture to form an opinion.
I will have to dig further.

But if this be the case, and we go down this route, I am not sure the city of Ilorin(formerly of yorubas), and the dramatis personae in that feud that led to Ilorin becoming an emirate will be left out.
History is indeed very sweet.

Is Ilorin Emirate ever extensive or powerful like the Kano Emirate?

Ilorin Emirate , with Yorubanized Fulani emir is not different from Kano Emirate with Hausanized Fulani emir...it does not even come close in terms of sophistications with Kano Emirate.







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YUNGCONCEPT11:
Ok

Do you think that ilorin is just like other places..
You see that town is beyond your mind grasp .
That city cannot be compared to any emirate in Nigeria.
Any governor that tried making a single move would regret coming to planet Earth.

That emirate consist of different tribes coming together...don't even think of it walahi

PROUD ILORITE

What if every State decide to build 3-7 (modular) refineries , buy crude oil from Tchad, Niger Republic, Cameroon, Benin Republic or the Niger Delta and start refining for their local consumptions, that mean every State will get 13% derivative?

BabaRamota1980:
Kaduna Inland Dry Port

1- Any goods imported and shipped to Kaduna Port can no longer be cleared at Lagos Port. It can only be cleared at Kaduna.

Gains and Losses -
Kaduna gained
Lagos looses

2- Customs and Excise posts will now be established at Kaduna port to clear goods, to inspect and intercept and to derive excise duties for the State and FG.

Gains and Losses -
a. Kaduna gains a component of VAT previously collected at Lagos.

b. Kaduna IGR will surge from excise duties, warehousing and auction sale of abandoned goods.


3- Export goods can be shipped directly from Kaduna.

Gains and Losses -
Foreign Exchange advantage to local banks and BdC for trades and swaps.


Political Advantage

Arewa is doing business from a well articulated angle by divesting institutionalized national wealth into advantage for itself and breaking its dependency on South.

This is a replay of 1956.

When approached to prepare for Independence Arewa said it was not ready and would need few more years to catch up to South which was in a ready state for self-rule.

Arewa has repeatedly been reminded lately of the need to restructure the political contracts of Nigeria and its ethnic groups. This in short will translate to divestiture of national institutions and their accruing wealth. Currently national wealth is centralized and shared from the Federal Government in a formula that benefits most the zones with more local governments, and this happens to be Arewa. When it is restructured national wealth will become regional wealths. The benefits and advantages will shift South.

Arewa are much aware but were never prepared to fill gaps for the shift in economic sustenance. In other words, South is ready for restructuring but Norh is not.

The unbundling of Lagos ports for goods that are destined for markets in North is a smart move towards economic independence for Arewa. It is a good vision that should be supported by Yoruba's DAWN and promoted by Western Governors.



Katsina Refinery

1- When launched Katsina becomes an oil producing state and will get 13% as currently formulated in FAAC sharing structure. If revised in future it will get whatever allocation is authorized to oil producing states.

Gains and Losses
a. Katsina becomes a respectable income earner.

b. Katsina becomes a distribution hub for oil demands and markets in the Sahel and Sahara belt and earns foreign exchange directly.

c. Niger Delta, Ondo and Lagos, current designated oil producing states loose a component of allocation to Katsina.


2- Katsina refinery can become a counter-offensive and sustain supply and income during spells of sabotage by militants in Delta.

Gains and Losses -
Niger Delta militancy and destruction of oil installations will have less impacts on consumption and trade in North.


Political Advantage
Arewa views oil as a commodity of faith. The Islamic North believes Allah has handed them the divine right to rule Nigeria and that this right is tied to their religious faith Islam. The Arewa sultanate believes finding oil wells in North will complete its political and religious status as a bonafide Islamic State in peerage with Islamic States in Arabia. For this purpose the FG has not stopped testing for oil prospects in river basins in the North.

The planned acquisition of Middlebelt by a militant force is not just for cattle grazing..but more importantly for the water resources found in the basin and prospects for oil.

There is a gradual plan to either find and establish independent economic resource in North, or where that proves impossible to manipulate advantages and change fortunes with existing ones for benefit of Arewa.

None of these can be achieved without political supremacy at the center. Buhari has done for North in four years what no other Northern government has ever been able to do in 58yrs. The positioning of Arewa over ports authority, customs, security and oil ministry are pre-calculated objectives that we see yielding results in North. Given another 4yrs he can bring Nigeria into complete subordination under Arewa political and permanent dominance.

What of Koko and Sapele ports?


The Nigerian Navy has taken over the Sapele ports some decades ago.

johnpablo541:
There are no seaports in South Eastern Nigeria.
Here are the list of seaports in Nigeria.

Apapa seaport (Lagos State)
Tincan port (Lagos State)
Warri port (delta state)
Calabar port (cross-river state)
Onne port (rivers state)
Port-Harcourt port (Rivers state)


Piracy and militancy killed most of the ports in the south south region.