₦airaland Forum

AreaFada2:
To even begin, FG should dust up Confab Report and begin implementing it with immediate alacrity.

Who will trust an FG navigated by two-faced chameleons?

pembisco:
nd to evn tink dt mst of doz importing d ivds ar nt evn medical practioners yet nma is fytin on who shuld import or regulate its importation

Cadamlk:
I had always wanted Faleke to take the position of deputy Governor accorded him by Bello because i sensed he might not win in the tribunal.
Audu had not been sworn in and this does not give him(Faleke) merit to occupy the Governorship position at the demise of Audu......It is so unfortunate.

Equalizer:
Was it only Azikiwe that escaped the coup? didn't you hear that Awolowo and other top yuroba leaders escaped too.. In Nigeria, when one makes sentence without including the Igbos in it, the sentence seems not to be correct..

obi4eze:
I laugh at you in Chinese.

nelszx:
Do you know why MDCN cannot inspect pharmacy and medical labs? The answer is a simple yes dey have no such powers as interpreted by law. They do not have power to inspect clinics and hospital. But the law statutorily empowers PCN and MLSCN to inspect pharmaceutical and medical laboratories both in public (hospital inclusive) and private sector. Ordinarily do you think if law empowers MDCN to inspect (which ordinarily should be sth de should fight for) that u won't see dem inspecting? Ur answer is as good as mine.
U think if MDCN can inspect u won't see dem inspecting Dr's in medical practice to fish out the quacks?

Sctests:
Go back to the link you posted and peruse it
carefully, your asm-ascp website does not say it confers on
you "Medical laboratory Scientist" competencies. Let me quote an excerpt from your source

"Those who pass the exam are certified as a
Technologist in Microbiology (M) or Specialist in Microbiology (SM) by the ASCP and
are issued a certificate with both organizations' names on it."-----http://www.asm.org/index.php/nrcm-cert

Did you notice they were careful not have added the word "Medical"
in front of the "Technologist"? The medico-legal issues surrounding the practice can not
be wished away in countries where they are serious about this practice. Do non-biomedcal scientists(BMS)
in the UK work with patient's samples to achieve results aimed at diagnosis. Do you know that the title "BMS" is a protected title
in the U.K?

Again on your website let's take a look at the functions of a Registered Microbiologist and Specialist Microbiologist.
Is there any job description there with any semblance of working in a Medical laboratory for diagnostic purpose?

You guys have your fields, how many Medical lab Scientists are employed as Food microbiologists, industrial chemists, Environmental biologist and so on?
Do we run the environmental testing laboratories too?. You need to stop seeing the Medical lab Scientist as an ordinary 'Operator' not eligible to differentiate between a hyperglycemic sample caused by DM and a contaminated sample.


Listen the physician's here will click likes and applaud you, but if have any sense of history you will understand
that during the days of biologist/chemist in IMLT, almost every clueless physician will point to the lab and blame it when they butcher a patient.

The lab guys were the fall guys in those days. When a patient dies, it's the lab that delayed results. They prescribe the wrong
antibiotics- "oh that numbskull in the lab didn't run the AST effectively".

Well those "lab guys" have taken responsibility, built capacity, and equipped themselves with enhanced knowledge,
now regulate the laboratory with the full backing of the law. Why should that be a problem? Our national/state hospitals now have very few cases of misdiagnosis traceable to the laboratory. Nowadays, we no longer get frequent finger-pointings for giving bad results and endangering patients as it was in the 70's and 80's, Now we only get finger-pointing for asking to head the medical laboratories we developed-OUR PRIMARY CONSTITUENCIES in accordance with the law. It is a positive turn-around if you ask me.

Wide consultations were made before that ACT was passed as Law, people who thought the "kitchen"/labs should be thrown to the
backyard and blamed it for all their malpractice misfortunes are the ones crying foul today. Our Medical laboratories are getting strengthened,
the Medical Lab.Scientists will keep building capacities through enhanced knowledge and application of same and the patients can only be the greatest winner.

If you are looking to get us back to that age where the "Lab guy" is the fall guy for everyone else and is expected to gladly accept that, then i'm sorry the Law disagrees with you.

In the 50s' and 60's we had medical assistants treating patients because we didn't have enough Physicians, today we have more than ?40,000 physicians.
In the 70's we didn't have enough MLS/Biomedical Scientists. The biologists/chemists without basic knowledge in medical science were drafted in. These were all stop-gap complementary efforts.
Today Nigeria has at least 8,000 Medical Laboratory Scientists. Why go back to the inglorious era?

I am new on this forum, been reading as a guest for months, attracted by lots of misinformation about the MLS profession
and not a reincarnation of anyone. I will also like to meet fellow MLS on these forum. They seem to be very few on this website.




You are wrong sir! There is no where in the civilized World where, ONLY one class of professional called MLS are the only ones working in Medical Laboratories.
Pls google Medical Laboratoties and click on the section on Professionals in Medical Labs where the Pathologist come first,followed by Clinical Biochemist,then Pathologist's Assistant before Medical Lab Scientists.
The idea that ONLY MLS will be carring out all the Medical tests done in all parts of Nigeria for 170 million people is not realistic albeit impossible.
The unnecessary interprofessional rivalry is more pronounced In Gov't teaching hospitals. In the Private sector,which control 80% of the Med Labs in Nigeria, it will be very difficult to make the Med Labs solely for Med Lab Scientists

oyatz:
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One of the issues that will lead to calls for a review and an ammendment of the MLSCN Act is the attempt to implent ALL its provisions especially the section which give that Council the right to inspect and accredit Medical Laboratories which like all other health facilities are in different categories and manned by multiple and different professionals.

redsconsult:
teacher you are right but not to the extent of not able to write her name or saying the basics of english like "come, go, sit" haba

obi4eze:
You are just beating about the bush and contradicting yourself.

A well trained professional MLS can carry out most if not all medical laboratory tests, especially those done in our hospitals.

By law, the MLSCN is the statutory body that regulates medical laboratory science profession.

A medical laboratory scientist who specialized in histopathology can diagnose a Hodgkins lymphoma case if a lymph node from a patient with the tumor is processed and stained for microscopic examination.

You call the medical labs workshops yet doctors depend much on them to make diagnosis. Who is deceiving who? If the doctors can make diagnosis on their own, why refer the patients to them for tests?

The problem with doctors is their ego and know-it-all attitude. Many of them feel that other professionals are irrelevant hence the problem in the health sector.

gunuvi:
@op, you tried but unfortunately the reality is the opposite. Have you ever asked yourself how many of the oil rigs are owned by niger deltans? The grave injustices against the southerners by the northerners in this country is the major cause of all this negative actions.
lets wait and see how it will play out but we all know its going to be worse

eLcastro:
don't shw stupidity.,ministerial appointments r 4 every state...evn all the states in d east have ministers

AntiMahdi:
And you have that convicted drug peddler as your messiah.


Yoruba hypocrisy stinks.

Fayose remains a thousand times better than that d0pe head kleptomaniac tinubu which you all celebrate.


Useless hypocrites.

Sctests:
On the anomalous recommendation by the Yayale commitee that Pathologists should head the lab while the Medical Lab Scientist head is made the Technical Director. A member of the Dr Yayale's team is the Director of Pathcare laboratory, owned by Pathologists who have been dragged to court by the Medical Laboratory Council for disregarding Medical Lab council federal laws. That pathologist influenced that recommendation and is trying to be judge in their own case. What they couldn't get through the courtroom, they want to smuggle through the backdoor. It won't work.

aluunoble:
Sir, in as much as I appreciate the import of resident docs, which I hv always known remains indisputable just as other health care providers, the point am making is that Resident docs shuld the privatisation recently clamoured for holds sware will be 100 per cent submisive to their employer. Do u think u residnt docs will be receiving up to #250k per month for a start in all d private teaching hosp?

Moreso, who will be responsible for the oversea residency training which is one of the demands of NARD under the aegis of NMA shuld it be granted?

Concerning ur assertion of Res Docs teaching medical stdnts, pls I want to knw if they dnt receive teaching allowance to justify their impartation of knwledge?

Hmmm I wonder what effect ur strike had the last time u guyz embarked on strike that ostensibly didn't yield any fruit. It only created leeway for ur ogas to wake up from slumber to do dia wrk, thereby justifying their bogus pay.

Anyway, I wish Nigerian health system luck!

Abaniwol:
Does studing bsc.biochemistry nd msc.chemical pathology gurantee becoming a chemical pathologist in d hospital lab.pls i nid urgent answer.tnx

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Its quite unfortunate that the first comment I have to make on nairaland is on ur usless post. Can I ask u a simple question? Why are u scared of the pharmacists? Dont u realize that without them u cant even get a single drug to treat the soo called patient which u own? My dear if u dont kwn, these professional are the main reason why the patient come to the hospital. Or why not after performing the surgical procedure, u just give ur patient water and ask them to go home...I think its high time u guys appreciate the role of a pharmacist in drug development and research, synthesis and manufacture of drugs, drug design, determination of drug half life and dosing, therapeutic drug monitoring, resolution of drug therapy problems as a result of ur numerous prescription errors. Am ashamed that all u think of a pharmacist is as a dispenser....it just goes to show how empty u are inside and in issues concerning the pharmacist. .. I pity u my dear...

meromero11:
PDP will loose woefully should they pick a vice presidential candidate from the SE. You expect the hausa/fulani man who the igbos ridicules and insults on a daily basis to vote for such a ticket? Or is it the yoruba man who the igbo man considers his arch enemy to vote for such a ticket. It will be a complete disaster for PDP. Rochas is the only igbo man capable of pulling a slight weight politically across the lenght and breadth of the country. The rest S/Easterners are just pure tribalist harbouring deep biafran ideology.

razortruth:
I am not a doctor nor a nurse but i know by experience that a patient's life is safer in the hands and care of nurses than all those lazy and quack doctors in all the teaching hospitals in nigeria. A lot of people have died and still dying because of carelessness of these doctors who cant even practice abroad because their licences will be seized and litigation by patients will send them to jail. Local champions

GentleMimi:
abeg d'nt mind him.I'm a medical lab scientist,specializing in chemical pathology.Guys like this bobo just dey disgrace my profession.Wld a pharmacist ever ask u where he wld work afta grdtn!..& by d way i've neva heard of Uniben offering Med lab Sc as a course so i really d'nt trust dis guy!

Its a young profession with so many challenges and internal beef with other members of the health care team, that is why we need dedicated and young professionals like you to liberate us from the hands of out internal enemies.

Before taking the Ascp(international) exam for Internationally trained Medical Laboratory Scientists, you'll need to evaluate your credential through World education service and then send a copy to Ascp in the United States. As long as you are well grounded in all the sub-fields like Haematology,Cyto/Histopath, Med.Micro, Clinical Chem, BGS, you are good to go. A colleague has started the procedure already and is taking mock tests on their website.

There is an acute shortage over there and average pay of BioMedical Scientists/MLS in states like California is about $80,000(about 13.5 million naira)/yr. Do the maths.

pendusky:
We all knew Saraki is not Tinibu's boy, but believed me, 80% of senators likes this man!

Saraki doesn't even looked perturbed, whatsoever comes out of his trial, Saraki Wins!

Shawlambivert:
and what attribute makes tinubu more holier when he was accused of same in the past? They are all politicians and selfish individuals. That saraki and tinubu aren't on same page doesn't make one better than the other.

ndcide:
It takes a chronic APC supporter and a hater of GEJ not to agree that the Chibok issue was a conspiracy.

Agreed, some girls were taken, But it was a well orchestrated conspiracy to fight GEJ and bully him out of power.

Every thing about it was political. Some will easily say GEJ didn't call the governor, he didn't issue a statement immediately. Absolute bull. The security apparatus of state does not need the express command of the C in C to have intelligence. The dss DMI, CID all have what it takes to have to know how these girls moved.

That it happened that way, showed a strong conspiracy against the president. That is what we are saying.

The last president did everything possible to unravel the Chibok issue those with souls know this. We are not saying make GEJ president again, we are saying say the truth.

ceejay80s:
I am not in support of apc or pdp but I said it dat day, these girls they claim abducted, was it at night or in the day time, obviously day time cos they were still in class, they abducted all of them in to a jet and flew off? No be road dem pass and no body saw anything, una think say over 200missing girls na like 5 hairs from ur head? Make 50peopl stand for street , u go see how the street go full talk less of 200,
Either 10 girls were abducted or No girls are missing Jare

why do you answer so? it seems in uk and usa pathologists direct and manage medical laboratories. why should practice should be different in nigeria? pls i need clarification. tanx.