₦airaland Forum

adamsmith914:
No doubt, I know APC will not be stupid to lose power over a selfish man’s ambition, unless they are ready to relinquish Federal power to pdp? Which positively you know for sure that they aren’t quite ready after just 8 years.

President Buhari has to secure his legacy, let Bola Tinubu play his last cards, his time is up, after 2023 election, a new President & political leader of the South West has emerged.

By limiting the discussion about the 2023 presidential election to Tinubu, you aren't looking at the bigger picture.

What we should be clamouring for is free and fair election. Whoever emerges will lead to certain advantages for the country.

adamsmith914:
Muslim/Muslim ticket can never fly in Nigeria dead on arrival, na the late Fela Kuti give us the scope.

Christian Association of Nigeria will never accept it. Bola Ahmed Tinubu aka Jagaban will never be President of Nigeria, Osinbajo is your best bet.

Where did you see Muslim-muslim ticket? Why putting the cart before the horse?


Has any Muslim won the presidential Primaries and picks a Muslim running mate? Even at that, we should be discarding the religions of the candidates and focus on more important issues.




By the way, when is it going to be time for Traditionalists to get to power? When will the Atheists become president or vice-president?

Asgard73:
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The biggest threat to igbo president is the core North, however if younger igbo politicians continue to participate in the presidential race, it will dilute the unnecessary prejudice against Igbo presidency.


Nigeria can't attain her full potentials if some parts of the country are shut out of the leadership roles and all citizens don't have equal rights to hold the highest office in the land.

adamsmith914:
Who the Gods want to destroy they first make mad, Jagaban should have taken q of what happened to MKO Abiola?

But like I said, who the Gods want to destroy they first make mad.

History is known to repeat itself, Bola Tinubu has seen the signs, he knows his time is up, let him try & grab the last straw to stay afloat politically.

All these are just too immature.


Tinubu has the right to contest. Whether he wins or not is his personal business. There can only be one winner at a time

Reality3080:
who do u think we should vote instead of Tinubu?

They want you to vote for thiefAtiku

Collinsaik:
Nigeria must do the needful by handing over presidency to ndigbo if they want to lay this agitation to rest once and for all. a stich in time saves nine. my two cent

This threat and blackmail can NOT work sir, it will only cause avoidable violence in Igboland.

Successfulben:
Religion is scam.
I have always said there is no God anywhere. Smoke some weed and live ur life to the fullest cos tomorrow mother earth may demand for ur soul. Just be nice to people. Shikena

And who created and in charge of mother Earth?

jericco1:
After papa will say he didn't see it coming
Can't you advise Tinubu to step down

Omo all these pastors sef
After you'll tell people to pray when so many things are avoidable

Why will pastor adivise him to step down?


We should build great democratic systems and culture that can allow anybody contest while the best emerge as the winner.

Asgard73:
Tinubu market no gree sell for his Kano again?

Ganduje

Shekarau

Mohammed

Yet e no gree enter market

Now Yoruba Dey celebrate 2500 votes .. wahala Dey..

Buhari go hide face.. Walai

Una need to Kano to understand the stupidity of this particular propaganda

This is incoherent sir.


Start organizing campaigns for your preferred candidate, the Primaries is just about 10 months away

[quote author= post=109015943]He manipulated the system to favour his people, that's Nigeria for you, please is the VAT in Yoruba land being generated only by your tribe , major importers in Anambra and Abia use Lagos ports, major travellers from the East are using Lagos airport, majority of the markets are controlled by Igbos in Lagos, all the bank head offices use by all Nigerians are located in Lagos, transportation sector both land and air are dominated by Igbos, same with other sectors.[/quote]You don't seem to understand this VAT issues.

Most of the sectors you listed pay other forms of taxes but VATs are taxes paid by people consuming certain items.

Tribes are irrelevant to payment

History555:
Vedaxcool is not even a northerner. Its a yoruba man being spokesman for the north. Only yoruba on nairaland acts as spokesman for the north, they will fight north battles, abuse on their behalf, tell u how good north is. Only yorubas. Arewa, bosstrevor, kano1stson are not speaking out. Its a yoruba man that decides to be a slave spokesman

Discussions and enlightments about VATs is more of economic matters than regional/tribal matters.

Economic minded persons understand this well.

Blakjewelry:
Truth be told apart from Lagos I don't know how many states could beat Anambra when it comes to industries

But that is NOT what VAT measures.

VATs measure the taxes paid by consumers of certain items.

[quote author= post=109006231]Population has nothing to do with VAT, VAT is a consumption tax paid on all goods and services provided in or imported into Nigeria. VAT, which is currently charged at the rate of 7.5% is payable by individuals, companies, and government agencies. Certain goods and services including medical and pharmaceutical products, medical services basic food items, books and educational materials, exports e.t.c.[/quote]VATs is collected at the point of consumption, the more the population consuming VATable item, the more the VATs collected.

For instance, the higher the number of people paying NEPA bills and consuming soft drinks in a State,the higher the VATs collected in that State.

[quote author= post=109021899]IJEBU garri Anambra has 217 commercial bank branches Kano 176 branches, you can actually download from CBN site[/quote]Try to check the first column of the table.

The last column you are qouting is even a data from the third quarter of 2009, which is 13 years ago!


Bank branches changes with time and it's unrelated to the collection of VATs, even at that one bank branch in one place may have more than the entire customers of 3 branches elsewhere.

[quote author= post=109005671]Empty brain the VAT you guys cooked, VAT is collected by FIRS, VAT from the 6 breweries in Southeast east top all in Kano[/quote]Isn't it ironic that Tribalists like you who love to condemn any Statistics released by Nigerian agencies that doesn't favour them, also try to use other Statistics released by the same Nigerian agencies that favour them to buttress their points?


In one breath, you are disputing the statistics released by the NBS because you said that the organization is biased against you,but you are also relying on other Statistics (that favour you) released by the same NBS to prove your point.

[quote author= post=109005201]Anambra alone is more industrialized than Kano with bigger economy, host more commercial bank branches than Kano [/quote]Tribalism mix well with politics but not so well with Economics.


Bank branches and GDP are different measures which may not necessarily translate into collection of VATs.

The population play important role in the size of VATs which is a form of consumption tax.

In the table you yourself posted, Anambra has 121 bank branches while Kano has 130 branches but you still said that Anambra has more bank branches that Kano.

Penguin2:
Definitely, nobody can remove the God factor.

But God in his infinite wisdom, goodness and mercy, can’t destiny Tinubu to rule Nigeria.

Dan 4:17=> The Almighty rules in the affairs of men and gives power to whoever he wants

Omodua:
OK. If you say so.
Mind you,he is terminally sick and this should be his main concerns than presidential ambition. Still remember Musa Yar'Aduah who traded off his health for political expediency? Let's learn from people's mistakes!

There are so many other presidential aspirants, so the voters have options of choosing the right candidate.


What we need is strong democratic institutions, we need not focus on individuals.

Tinubu is not connected to those States, so nobody is interested .

durangokid:
. They are just the Tinubu created group, we know their game, an old dated gimmick

I know it!

I know some of you guys will still blame Tinubu for this, as if Tinubu is an all powerful spirit over Igbo matters.

Omodua:
Chill my Friend. Better advice your mentor Tinubu not to delve into murky waters of presidential ambition. He should be Godfather to ambitious people. He has seen it all. Let him anoint instead of nursing the ambition. Maybe, he has more money to waste! My Take.

It's better that Tinubu pursue his presidential ambition to a logical conclusion. This will enrich our democratic culture and help to define how we want to run it.

VaselineCrew:
They are demons bro! People like that seunmsg guy.

We are talking about a country were people can’t even get government water, yet, they still choose the most corrupt local champions to continue the disaster.

Nigerians men, with their thick and hard coconut heads!! It’s sad! Beyond sad!

Instead of complaining about the choice of other citizens, it's better to start canvassing for votes for your preferred candidate so that greater number of voters can be support your candidate.

baralatie:
So to offer prayer to God that banditry.boko Haram,economic depression to stop in Nigeria.isnot worth it.
It is 2023 presidential ambition that you are supporting

All these were parts of the prayer points.

Penguin2:
Jonathan did more than this and still lost.

He got all Yoruba Obas to point their staff at him (don’t if they laid curse on him then since he doesn’t understand Yoruba ).

He knelt down at David Oyedepo’s alter.

The witches association endorsed him.

But nothing came out.

I just wanted to remind Tinubu urchins before they start rejoicing.

Nobody becomes a president of a Nation unless he/she is pre-destined.


Jonathan was destined by God to become the leader of the greatest country in Africa.


If it's part of the destiny of Tinubu to be president, he will be. . .the God-factor is the ultimate decider.

meccuno:
All these agricultural produce won't give you the necessary forex to sustain a country the way Oil does. No country survives effectively selling kolanuts. Better look at the bigger picture.

CRUDE oil is a raw material ,which Nigeria is selling in it's raw form to get Forex, to import finished materials like drugs, vehicles, designers wears, chocolate etc.


All these Agricultural raw materials can be turned to semi-finished or even finished goods to get Forex or even get the goods we need without going through Forex e.g if we can plant thousands of acres of sugar canes, we can harvest them and refine the canes to produce sugars for our domestic and industrial consumption without the need for Forex.
The bye-products from the refining of sugar can become raw materials for the production of Fish and poultry feeds.

Unlike the oil industry that doesn't employ many of our people, these Agricultural based industries will employe so many people in different parts of the country.

The amount of money we use to import goods, derived from these Agricultural produce is far higher than whatever we receive as rents/royalties by the International oil companies for extracting and exporting our crude oil.

myobjective:
The guy has serious inferiority complex. He doesn't speak for majority of Kogi west people who Yorubas.

I was born in the north and being from Ondo state (though mother from Ilorin) but since I stay and more used to my Ikare side, I tends to speak Ikare dialect more.

You may not know though if I switched to the general Yoruba because I grew up among people from Oyo and Osun state but these groups still find a way to ridicule my Ikare dialect when Is speak it to family men.
I'm not really ashamed to speak the Ikare dialect and I make it a point to explain to them that Ondo,Ekiti,Ijebu and Okun dialects are closer to proto Yoruba language than Oyo dialect that has shown my innovation due to their closeness with Nupes, Borugu etc.

The general Yoruba language is a modification of the dialect of Oyo which because of the legacy of the Oyo Empire was the most widely spoken when the Yoruba orthography were formulated.

It however should be noted that Oyo Empire included non-Yoruba peoples and had close interactions with highest number of other peoples like Nupe, Hausa, Songhai, Malians, Fulani, Ewe and Fon.
In the process , their languages was influenced by all these peoples e.g The now accepted Yoruba name for


Prayer = Adura (old Yoruba= Iwure)

Priest= Alufa (old Yoruba= Abore)

sirwilly5:
You know nothing of the Yoruba's in Kogi. Their language is total different with little similarity to the Yoruba's of the south west.
The Kabba people speak okun while the Amoro people speak yagba.
Same thing with the Igbo in rivers and delta.
Am from Kaduna pls but a constant traveller.
Thank you

You don't fully understand Yoruba language.


Even the Yoruba language spoken by the Indigenes of Atakpame, Togo (Ife-Togo) in the short You-tube video below can be understood by any Yoruba man with deep understanding of the language, how much more a closer dialect like Yagba or Owe dialect spoken in Kogi State.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNc7F2iw0tc




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNc7F2iw0tc

aribisala0:
If you do not understand the issues it is better to shut up rather than try to show yourself.
Define "downhill"
Water will flow along the line of least resistance driven by gravity. That could be West to East , North to South or vice versa. The person I quoted implied North to South is downhill.


The issue is that downhill does not mean North to South. Do not just interject yourself in other people's conversation because you feel you must talk

Bros, calm down. This is 2022.



We are saying the same thing.

aribisala0:
What do you mean by downhill.
You might need geography lessons too as you appear to have half knowledge which is more dangerous than no knowledge.

The course of the river Niger is a matter of fact . Nothing to do with "downhill"
As a matter of fact for several kilometres after its origin in Guinea the River Niger flows northwards before turning southwards

FYI and education

The North is not "UP" and the South "DOWN" . Those are arbitrary specifications. just like East and West or writing from left to right. If you look at older maps the "north" was at the top and vice versa

It is funny how many people believe that
The North pole is the TOP OF THE WORLD and the South Pole is AT THE BOTTOM
There are rivers that flow from south to north e.g. The NILE

The question of "downhill" is ignorant.

The guy is correct, water flow downhill. However, downhill does NOT necessarily mean South.


In the case of River Niger, the River flow downhill along a North-South direction from the in-land Delta to the coastal Delta. Ironically, it flow downhill from South to North from it's origin in the Guinean highlands to the in-land Delta around Gao.

meccuno:
What makes Nigeria ? Oil. Without it, it's as good as dead. If the Igbos secede, the Nigeri Delta would want to have their own country. Not like I care. So definitely would affect Nigeria.

Let's assume that Niger-Delta and it's oil secede, will the people ;

1) Rearing cattle, goats and sheep stop working?

2) Will the people planting sugar cane, rice, beans, onions, pepper, ginger stop working?

3) Will the timber , cocoa, kolanuts business stop?
4) Will the production of eggs and poultry products end?

Rexwalters1:
Still blaming after 22 years of ruling yourself? Traits of a failure, at least you are still a bit better than some that blame Sir Frederick Lugard of 1914.

You don't understand politics of Nationhood.


Political decisions taken by the Romans about 2000 years ago to expel the Jews from Judea and renane the territory (after the worst enemies of the Jew) as Palestina is still having reverberating consequences till today.

The union of Wales with England over 700 years ago still have consequences for both countries till date.

The invasion of Korea by the super-powers about 70years still have consequences.



In Nigeria, the present political structure that's highly centralized causing undue tension was done by the military.


Today, we are still talking about removal of subsidy on Petroleum products because the military created a monster called NNPC and saddled the FG with the responsibilities of exploring, refining, importing ,distributing and selling petroleum products at the same price all over a vast country like Nigeria.

juman:
Ijebu are not children of oduduwa. He said.

That's fine.
All of us came from Adam and eve.

*Adam and Eve were the ancestors of the Jewish people but NOT the ancestors of the whole world.

1) Oduduwa was NOT a Yoruba man.
There was nothing like Yoruba during his time.

2) Not all Yorubas descended from Oduduwa. In fact, only certain royal families and their extended families descended from Oduduwa.

3) Oduduwa being referred to as the father of the Yorubas is largely a figurative expression.

At best, he was the founder of the largest and most enduring dynasties among those who later formed the Yoruba people.

4) Ile-Ife, Ijero, Ire and several towns in the S/West existed before Oduduwa.

Around 2013, an archeaological excavation just outside Iresi, a small town in Osun State revealed the remnants of a 5000 year old Community.