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nuzo:What events The change in leadership in these states don't show anything about Nigerians waking up.They only show that the person in charge(Our Sluggish President and his cronies) have had no special affiliation or liking towards the previously installed Governors at the time of their removal! Wait until 2011 to check if "these events" show anything about 'Nigerians beginning to wake up". Lagosboy:This is more like it. Makes sense to me. Lagos and Kano really do appear electorally immune to the whims and caprices of INEC and those political jobbers! |
How come I feel good about this? Have I lost so much patroitism? The same way I feel good these days when I see oil price going down! Maybe this would take us back to the farm! |
Strategic thinking by the Americans! I just wonder what it's all about though! It definitely has something to do with Oil, 2015 or the fact that Igbos have an extensive spread worldwide. I agree with the reasoning of Naijaking1, Negro-ntns and Debosky! @Negro_ntns For the uninitiated, your speculations would pass for mere conspiracy theories! However,those in the know, sure do know that your reasoning is in line with subterranean/inconspicuous realities! |
Lagosboy:Hey, No offence intended! I probably just wrote your name to get ur attention! Asides, at least on this thread and a couple others I've seen, you hardly criticize violence in the name of Islam, instead you often make references stating that other religions are violent too. My point is simple; Tolerance is two way street. If you don't take offense, there would be no offense. Stereotypists would refer to Islam as violent, the same way they would refer to Africa as poor. Perception for them is reality. What they see is what would they believe. They don't have the patience to look up close. The fact that 95+ percent of mass killings( say more than 100 people at once) worldwide, was done in the name of Islam is enough for them to conclude that Islam is violent. In the same vein, the fact that 95% of the pictures seen about Africa is Disease, Hunger and Wars is enough reason for them to conclude that Africa is a backward dump pit. Fact is, majority of us- You, I , the President, The Imam, The Engineer, Cleaner and whoever we are- We base most of our judgements on stereotypes. I think the onus of responsibility is on Muslims to discredit intensely, any violent brand of Islam. Isn't it noteworthy that Christains are always the first to shout down other Christians who exhibit intolerance towards Muslims? |
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liftedone:You try. At least you made a very, very serious attempt. Guess it paid off with ur increased internet speed. You'll definite get much more business this year!!!!!! |
presido1:Don't worry yourself! It is a thing with Nigeria. Somehow we have a very warped out way of assessing value. The prices especially in Lagos are outrageous, but people are still rushing these properties. I wouldn't pay that price for the quality that is offered, even if it were in Manhattan. But there again, folks are paying for it. So I think you should leave Liftedone alone, as she hasn't done anything wrong. Her prices is in accordance with prevailing market prices. Asides she has a freedom to state whatever price, in the same way you are free not to pay for, it if you don't like it. |
Muza:I would like to believe "respecting other people's beliefs" is a two way street. Meaning, the dutch man has a right to his own belief- which he has stated, in the same way Muslims have a right to their belief that non-Muslims are infidels. Respect I think is a two way street. Tolerance is key. We should be able to tolerate other people's nuisances as long they don't hurt us. The best thing to do is to live what you believe without hurting nobody! |
Sad! |
And at this point, I begin to wonder who made more sense btw Kobojunkie, Must_A_Far and Zomby! Leaning more towards Zomby! |
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I'm very impressed with the progress and also the zeal exhibited so far! Very impressive! Wonderful job!! I'm in!!! I would love to join the Education and Special projects committee! I believe we can make things happen. @B.O.S.S Thanks big for the compliment on page one. Wow, there are already a hundred and something members on facebook??WOOOOW!!!!!!! |
Kobojunkie:Oh, Kobo oh! I wish you knew! This is the exact reason I said you've been out of Nigeria too long. And with the story of the salt-seller, you just exposed deepseated ignorance.(no disrespect intended). It is very expected for commodity traders like salt,sugar, flour, rice, cement to be very wealthy. Three years ago, I had even worse perceptions than you are having now. Research and raw data have changed my views. The average trader in rich cities in Nigeria- Lagos, Abuja, Port Harcourt, Warri and a few others makes much more money than his working class counterpart in the US, Europe, ETC. Been on all sides, so trust me. I know lots and lots of small time businessmen men that make sales of more than a million naira daily. Daukoru, with the access to opportunities garnered as NNPC boss, after retiring over a dozens years back shouldn't have problems with 2.5 million dollars, if small time businessmen make sales of much more than that amount in a year. Nigerian businesses spend above 8 million dollars on brand new heavy duty generators weekly! Ask yourself where all that money comes from! Read this article to understand better: [url]http://www.vanguardngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27957&Itemid=42 [/url] |
You guys are funny! Not just funny, but ignorant also! 2.5 millions dollars is a lot of money for the average man worldwide, no doubt! But, it stays a fact that for tens of thousands of Nigerians, many, if not majority of which are genuine businessmen- that is not a lot of money to cough out for a kidnapped wife! nuzo:No it doesn't give you legal access to millions of dollars in Nigeria. What it gives you though, is influence and access to previously inaccessible opportunities. That influence and access is what brings you millions of dollars. And this rule is not limited to Nigeria. Influence and access to opportunities translates easily to millions of dollars anywhere in the world.! |
[quote author=must_a_far link=topic=232043.msg3452106#msg3452106 date=1234284361]wetin this man do all him life wey him take get 2.5millions dolares waiting in his bank account in case his wife got kidnapped?[/quote]Daukoru has been around for a while! Former NNPC boss in the 90's! Successful businessman! That is not a lot of money for many Nigerian business men! |
Kobojunkie:Looks like its been a while you visited Nigeria last!! That amount, for a lot of Nigerians- Genuine Businessmen,Thieves, Politicians,Investors, Crooks, Contractors and a couple of smart brains- is not an outrageous amount. People splurge $2m dollars for a plot of land a quarter the size of a football field on a very regular basis in Nigeria! It's a mystery though how they get all that money! |
Very sad. Must have been a painful experience for the guy(Daukoru) and his family. While I wouldn't criticize the Militants for their other struggles,nothing would ever justify the wickedness called kidnapping. The Federal Government is ignoring all these because it is happening only in the Niger Delta. I pity Nigeria, because kidnapping would spread to even Abuja and Victoria Island/Ikoyi, if the causes of these problems are not dealt with quickly. |
I like this! I like it more because of the fact that people can cling on and have faith in something so broken and shattered. I like the fact that people can be so hopeful in the midst of this obvious impossibility. I like the enthusiasm with which B.O.S.S and Skyblue have presented their speeches. I like it. I like it. Just that it is bland and Large.It is so large that the impossibilities stare you in the face. It is so bland that the outlook can be so fatiguing! But I like it. I like the hope [/b]and [b]enthusiasm [/b]of the two fellas and all the others that believe in this project! Problem is [b]hope [/b]and [b]enthusiasm [/b]would only end on the pages of Nairaland. They wont change Nigeria or the apathy of Nigerians. Online membership would not cut it. [b]For your information, not too much more than a thousand nairalanders post on Nairaland and I'm guessing that less than 50 would care one inch about this post! Which brings me to my point. If the goal is to get as many nairalanders append signatures, that wouldn't bring no change. My suggestions! Lets start now. Lets test ourselves immediately. Lets forget about changing the whole country immediately. Lets just pick one project. Maybe we can look for one primary school to renovate to international standards.Just one school! Maybe we can try to revamp a dilapidated public library. Or even start an Economic development Center in rundown neighbourhood- set a target of training/funding say 100 small scale entrepreneurs in 3 months. Or help a village start an Agricultural revitalization program. Something we can measure its outcome soonest. Raising funds for such causes is easy. There are formulas that can be applied and all the funding will be available. And we don't need too much people. Just the twenty something people already signed up is enough. What will be needed more is will. A will to expend your time, resources and intellect for what looks like a noble cause that we've been invited to embark upon. Maybe, just maybe if we can succeed in one project, people will just believe and begin to join the cause. So my suggestion is simple. Lets use this initial pages to determine what project the few people that would be interested would embark upon. Lets determine how to go about the project we get to choose. If we succeed, maybe, just maybe people will listen! There are a million other little projects we can start to embark upon without much finance. The power to change starts small then begins to grow before it consumes and takes over its environment. This might look stupid and unappealing, but hey. . .i thought you said we wanted to change Nigeria? |
MrCrackles:Technically or I mean geographically, Britain is not a part of continental Europe. Culturally, Britain is closer to the its western neighbor- USA than it is to it's eastern bordermate- France. In reality, the UK is an island! Just like Madagascar! |
debosky:@Debosky Thank yooou! Tell them! @post Very tasteless and thoughtless article with very on-the-surface reasoning! Besides, who the heck is Chidi Opara? |
I believe he was making a reference to African leaders. Nigeria was obviously on his mind. Then Mugabe! |
Is this true today? |
@Hajifaty You didn't spell [b]"Fraustration" [/b]properly-Look under. Sorry! |
[quote author=B.O.S.S. link=topic=219941.msg3353507#msg3353507 date=1232205384]Without trying to criticise, Haiti is not among the world's 50 most populous countries. Colombia is 27th world's most populous country and has gained notoriety for drug dealing (so kidnapping might be a by-product as a result). Brazil - is one of world's most populous countries and I think is pretty similar to Nigeria when we consider the climatic conditions. Mexico and Venezuela are the world's 11th and 4th most populous countries respectiely. Among these countries listed before Nigeria, only Brazil and Mexico are among the world's top15 most populous countries and (though not really saying that they deserve to be there) but for Nigeria to rank among the likes of Afghanistan, Iraq and even Haiti (the poorest country in the world, isn't that troubling? So from your list, I think we shouldn't be comparing them in the same line when it comes to reasons for abyssmal rate of kidnap (Nigeria, Venezuela and Haiti).[/quote]While Haiti is not one of the world's most populous countries, it happens to be by far the most populous in the Caribbean, with a population three times higher than the next most populous country, Jamaica. Haiti has a population of 10 million, Jamaica=3 million, Bahamas= 400,000 and barbados=300,000.So by Caribbean standards, Haiti has a very massive population The other countries are well populated. However, the point i raised (correlation btw population,tropical regions and kidnapping) is just an observation. I personally don't think there would be any direct correlation. But I like to observe patterns where I see them, and try to understand them and see if there is any hidden thing I can learn from them. While it might not be conspicuous, if you observe closely, you'll find that kidnappings are successful hence rampant in these tropical countries because, the kidnappers have a very good place to hide their captives = Very thick inaccessible rain forests/mangrove swamps! So I think my point still stands relevant, even if I don't believe it myself! |
asha 80:Asha, no the problem is with your understanding. I have not praised the Government, neither did the poster do so in his post. And I am disgusted at the Government, even many of the ones that are said to be performing. The point however is that those little changes that have/are happening didn't used to happen before and if they are happening, they are a signal that there is some hope we can hold on to. If you can't feel that hope, it is because in your perception, the glass is always half empty rather than half full. |
The problem with Nigeria is the people of Nigeria more than it is the Government of Nigeria! I'm seeing all these negative comments here and I'm amazed at our very low level of thinking and reasoning. I_Laugh visits Nigeria. He sees things in Lagos, Abuja, PH & Calabar and is amazed at the changes he sees. Then he is hopeful. Doesn't that tell us something! Many of you are asking how does that translate to jobs? How does that put food on the table of the common man?How is that change? Let me explain to your low senses how that translates to progress and what impact such little things as streetlights and the like can have on an economy.I will use I_laugh as an example. Don't you realize that the positive impression I_laugh got from Nigeria would encourage him and all those other Nigerians in Diaspora with similar impressions to ; 1)[/b]Go back home and Invest in some kind of business. They will not only bring in critical expertise they have learned(knowledge transfer), they would also employ lots of Nigerians in such ventures.Add that to the foreign exchange that comes with it. [b]2)[/b]Visit more often and probably bring their friends along. That in itself is the best form of Tourism promotion. Tourism as we all know happens to be the best tool for job creation. Add that to the foreign exchange that comes with it. [b]3) Become proud and boast to foreigners that Nigeria is not that bad afterall. That will help Nigeria's image a little. 4) A whole lot other benefits come with I_laugh's hope and this is all as a result of these things which you guys claim as non-essential to development. The little things like putting street lights, my people, are some of the things they refer to as "creating an enabling environment to attract investment". Mai Suya:Mai suya, let me explain how that translates to food on your table. I will give you a real and practical example. But first I want to ask you if you have seen anywhere in the world where government puts food on people's tables? I have never seen it. What I know Government's do, is to create an enabling environment so that people can put food on their tables- by themselves. I was in Warri during the Christmas and I noticed some striking changes and how they're are impacting on the lives of the people. The Governor- Uduaghan has Street lighted all the Major roads in the city and the lights are all on constantly as they don't depend on NEPA. Now what I noticed was that, the streets with lights are now filled with Cafes, Pubs, Restaurants, relaxation bars and Smoked fish/Suya spots, People with houses along those streets converted their frontages to Cafes. And they are doing brisk and bountiful business. In order to keep their places running, they employ sales girls and bar tenders.They are buying more Fish and that translates to more money for Fishermen/Fishfarmers. Distribition companies are employing more hands to supply their goods to these new outlets. So not only is the owner of the Cafe/Pub/Restaurant/Joint making more money, they are also taking lots of people out of the Job market.And this is all as a result of street lights. My simple point is to show you how simple things like street lights create Job opportunities for more and more people. Once more, Governments never create Jobs, they create an enabling environment and sound policies that would enable Job creation to thrive. So if the things I_laugh has mentioned can be refered to as part of an enabling environment, then I don't see what all the noise is about. |
@I_laugh I told you!Ignorant and insatiable Nairalanders are going to come after your post! Leave them! They don't understand that progress is procedural and the fact that these little changes are happening signifies that there is hope in the air. The only thing damping that hope right now is the Yar' Adua presidency! |
I find something interesting with this list. If you observe closely, you'll notice something striking that behavioral scientists might want to look into! Some of the countries are war torn: Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya and that is pretty understandable. But the rest of the countries are tropical countries with very high populations. Brazil, Nigeria, Colombia, Phillipines, Mexico, Haiti and Venezuela. There is definitely a correlation between kidnapping, population and climatic conditions! |
FBS:Yes I agree with that. Just in a different way. For instance, Nigeria's real founding father is Lord Lugard, but they try to make us feel like it is Tafawa Balewa, Zik and a few others. Now if Lord Lugard, who seemed to have hated Nigeria well that he called us Nigeria- Latin word for "Dark Area", is Nigeria's founding father, then we would understand better why Nigeria acts like an illegitimate child. Real heroes aren't celebrated here!! |
I laugh, I' mean I'm really laughing! And I'm laughing because many ignorant and insatiable Nairalanders are soon going to come and start insulting your post . What you've said is all facts! Nigeria is changing and especially those places you mentioned- Lagos, Abuja, PH and Calabar. Some progress has been made in Nigeria over the years but it is easier to see it only if you've been out for sometime with regular trips back. But much of that progress is limited to these few areas you mentioned (add Warri to it)! Besides, the progress is coming way too slow. It could have been a lot faster if OBJ remained in power! The credit goes to the following individuals; Lagos: Fashola, Abuja: EL-Rufai; PH: Oil Money; Calabar: Donald Duke. Hurry up with those pictures!!!!!!!!!!! |
The deterrent factor is enough to reduce crime in Lagos dramatically! Cameras are rarely used to catch thieves. Their main purpose is to serve as a deterrent! Concerning power, that would definitely be an obstacle, but not a big one. There are cameras that come with UPS backing. Didn't you hear that all the street lights in Warri are powered without NEPA and they function perfectly twelve 12hrs nightly. If Delta state can do it for streetlights, why not Lagos for Cameras! |
Small talk by small minds!! |
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The change in leadership in these states don't show anything about Nigerians waking up.
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