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Christianity Etc › Re: Harmful Effect Of Christianity To Our Beloved Society by paxonel(m): 7:15pm On Aug 12, 2018

prolog2:
I think you lack the ability to think properly. first establish your claim as truth through the form of a proof before calling it such and telling me to accept it with a speech that can only be described as emotional nonesense.
Your ethnicity is irrelevant, it is all about your reasoning and your illogical assumptions which you want to pass as facts.
Unluckily for you, I am a thinker.

you can't be asking of prove over what is already known everywhere, may be you are the one not listening to your environment.

The official documentation of the national museum and monument have it already that binis originated from ife.

Go to ring road and ask, that is exactly what the binis will tell you.

But again, there are conflicting ideas from some quarters that the binis did not originate from ife, but there are no domentations of that position that is accepted nationally.

You are here talking grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Harmful Effect Of Christianity To Our Beloved Society by paxonel(m): 6:55pm On Aug 12, 2018

prolog2:
you yorubas are so desperate to have a history that you will forever keep trying to claim and still that of other people.
What a pity. I believe your history lays in brazil.

bush man!
Did i tell you I'm Yoruba?

Oh! It's all about tribal superiority that's why you people are denying the truth?

You people don't want to be seen as inferior to the yorubas?

Una mumu o grin

By the way, who tells you that accepting the truth will make you an inferior tribe?

Black man
grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Harmful Effect Of Christianity To Our Beloved Society by paxonel(m): 6:44pm On Aug 12, 2018

prolog2:
"geographical distribution of cultures" verbiage only makes it harder to understand your dumb ideas.
"artefacts found among the binis which are common and peculiar to the ancient ifa and orunmila", now you are just fishing for something, anything I guess.
Whatever you claim, you should prove. Just stop throwing words here and there like a toddler throwing his food instead of eating it, prove your claims. Simple.
If you claim the Oba of Benin migrated from ife, then prove it !

Also keep in mind that the person you are talking to is not necessarilly the usual nigerian idiot.

And you think that throwing words like colonial maps are enough prove to assert errors?
you have proven to be one idiot already and there are no proofs for your ape type.
Whether you like it or not binis were lost tribes of the great ife, jump to the clouds everyone knows it and nothing can change that grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Harmful Effect Of Christianity To Our Beloved Society by paxonel(m): 3:46pm On Aug 12, 2018

prolog2:
No, please stop with your stupid "schools of thoughts". The places you are talking about are not kingdoms, they are dukedoms which are subterritory to an actual kingdom. My references are the precolonial maps which are available for all to see. i don't speculate like the fools do, I talk facts, and only facts.

so,whats the content of the precolonial maps you are talking?
How does the map dispute the facts that the binis are not far away from ile ife by geographical distribution of cultures?
How are the maps also anul certain artefacts found among the binis which are common and peculiar to the ancient ifa and orunmila?

Christianity Etc › Re: Harmful Effect Of Christianity To Our Beloved Society by paxonel(m): 2:37pm On Aug 12, 2018

JackBizzle:
Olu of Warri was of no importance to Delta history until military rule in Nigeria.

who is this one talking?

I'm very sure are chatting far away from jupiter grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Harmful Effect Of Christianity To Our Beloved Society by paxonel(m): 2:33pm On Aug 12, 2018

prolog2:
The Oba of Benin never migrated from "ile ife", I am tired of some fools endlessly repeating this lie.
It is not everything which is about migration. Benin city is only the capital of Benin Kingdom which had Edo-state and delta-state as subterritory. Benin Kingdom had many cities and villages. Those cities and villages were administered by Edo nobles who took orders from the King (Omo n'Oba n'Edo). You guys are really dumb. Please go back to school.

the school of thought that says the oba of benin migrated from ile ife is one school of thought which has already been established from references that will never be accepted by the bini people i understand that.

Another school of thought from references known by the bini people which are not known by others says the benin kingdom never originated elsewhere, that is also another established one.

Therefore you do not have any right to call any idea of thought dumb, because even your own references are not known. Nobody is monopoly of knowledge.

In either case there was undisputed migration which lead to other kingdoms at uromi, ekpoma, sabo gida ora, Auchi, etc, including the warri kingdom and it environs.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Freemasonry Is Better Than Any Religion by paxonel(m): 11:34am On Aug 12, 2018

lawjjj:
if I argue with your opinion we will remained in an unending chit chat, i think if you take a deeper look at this your statement 'In christianity, the spice we add for people to see is speaking in tongues and fervent prayer and being religious. But the actual religion is the believe in Jesus Christ for our salvation' we may come to an understanding, that is where I spot the delusion

call it delusion, the truth still remains that Christians have their points for believing in that

Christianity Etc › Re: Harmful Effect Of Christianity To Our Beloved Society by paxonel(m): 11:26am On Aug 12, 2018

JackBizzle:
Get your facts right. The Oba of Benin had servants- he did not sell slaves for money.

I did not say the oba sold slaves. I'm saying that long before the slave trade era, some chiefs around the oba parted the Benin kingdom to form their own settlements outside the region and became obas in those regions, just like oba of benin once migrated from ile ife.
That all these migrations were as a result of the perceived injustice meted to them by the oba which may include some kind of slavery.

Warri Kingdom? Nigga, Warri was shite until the colonial people came. There was no Warri Kingdom. You clearly are not from Delta

really,
How did the olu of warri became oba in warri?

Do you realize that the olu warri in his palace have been doing business transactions(not slave trade)with colonial masters long before christianity was sold to the people by christian missionaries who later came?

Olu of warri migrated from the benin kingdom perhaps out of injustice and unfair treatment. The itsekiris have a lot of similarities with the bibis, especially the red beads they have as their traditional jewlries

Christianity Etc › Re: Harmful Effect Of Christianity To Our Beloved Society by paxonel(m): 8:40am On Aug 12, 2018

JackBizzle:
Were most tribes selling their brothers as slaves before white Christians came?

Ogbeni, focus on Christianity that is the problem.

slavery have been in existence in Africa long before they interact with white men!

I will cite instances where various kingdoms parted from ile ife and other prominent kingships to form their own settlements. These was as a results of injustice.

Today we have the benin kingdom, the oba of Lagos, the warri kingdom which parted from the binis, the aniocha, these are just few.

My brother, Slavery and injustice have been there. The hearts of men were corrupt it's not about whether it was christianity or not.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Freemasonry Is Better Than Any Religion by paxonel(m): 8:28am On Aug 12, 2018

lawjjj:
draw a distinct line between religion and spirituality, I don't believe in the former

Religion has been defined as the believe in a god or group of gods, but i have come to discover that religion is far beyond that definition.
Religion is simply believing in anything.

Now everyone have the tendency to believe in anything therefore no one is free from religion.

What you believe is right inside your mind and that alone makes a religion to you, but you may not be conscious that it is religion but in the real sense it is actually one.

The bottom-line is, if you believe that it is only the air that is sustaining your life the air therefore becomes your religion.
If you believe in love and nothing else, love therefore becomes your religion.

Spirituality is just that spice you add to your belief whether it is love or air or stone or water or whatever.

In christianity, the spice we add for people to see is speaking in tongues and fervent prayer and being religious. But the actual religion is the believe in Jesus Christ for our salvation

Christianity Etc › Re: Harmful Effect Of Christianity To Our Beloved Society by paxonel(m): 8:04am On Aug 12, 2018

JackBizzle:
You did not make any single point in your entire comment.

Oga, the point here is that Christianity is a problem in Africa. That was what the op is saying.

You came to claim that the problem is African tradition. Which is a whole lot of nonsense.

Christianity is a problem. Don't defend the religion by blaming African tradition that we barely practice.

as if African traditions never had problems before christianity was brought to Africa?

My friend go sit down jo, you know nothing grin

You think all Africans are that sentimental?

I love tradition too, but only the good ones and not the bad ones.

Christianity Etc › Re: Harmful Effect Of Christianity To Our Beloved Society by paxonel(m): 8:02am On Aug 12, 2018

JackBizzle:
You did not make any single point in your entire comment.

Oga, the point here is that Christianity is a problem in Africa. That was what the op is saying.

You came to claim that the problem is African tradition. Which is a whole lot of nonsense.

Christianity is a problem. Don't defend the religion by blaming African tradition that we barely practice.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Freemasonry Is Better Than Any Religion by paxonel(m): 7:58am On Aug 12, 2018

lawjjj:
love and brotherhood

then love and brotherhood is your religion yes or no?

That's what you believe in.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Rapture : Who Will Be Caught Up With Christ At His Coming? - Olamide Obire by paxonel(m): 7:54am On Aug 12, 2018

frosbel2:
The rapture is a concocted fable for the simple minded.

dont mind these deluded people.

They read figure of speeches in the bible and misinterpreted them thinking that they are talking about people being caught up in the air called rapture.

Thank God we were thought figure of speeches in secondary school literature, these people will never learn grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Freemasonry Is Better Than Any Religion by paxonel(m): 7:48am On Aug 12, 2018

Op, the fundamental belief of christianity is Jesus Christ the savior of mankind from sin and death.

What is the fundamental belief of freemasonry?

Christianity Etc › Re: Harmful Effect Of Christianity To Our Beloved Society by paxonel(m): 7:36am On Aug 12, 2018

JackBizzle:
Your inferiority knows no bounds.

you haven't landed your point yet you started by saying someone is inferior. It shows that your belief is actually what is inferior here and i will further prove it.

So you are now blaming the problems of christianity on African tradition? Is christianity not still problematic in Western Countries? The same christianity that has been abandoned by European countries because of its problems?

did i say that christianity was never problematic in Europe and elsewhere?

In a current study of the UK, 53% of people there say that they do not have any religion.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-people-atheist-no-religion-uk-christianity-islam-sikism-judaism-jewish-muslims-a7928896.html

so, how does this anul the fact that Europeans who brought christianity to Africa years back, have taken time to invest in education and advance industrialization and technology in their countries over the years inspite that many of them believe in the bible and Africans who also believe in the same bible could not do the same in their countries over the years?
Obviously, it was never the bible that was drawing Africa backward, it was their traditional value system that is doing that.
And these traditional value system are seen practiced in African churches today what else do you want to say?

Christianity was responsible for religious wars in Europe in the past. It was also responsible for
-the burning of innocent women accused of being witches
-the abuse of unnecessary power given to religious clergy (child abuse by priests)
-blasphemy laws
-anti-scientific dogmas eg hatred for evolution
-homophobia

etc

we already know these before

we all know that all these happened in the past. They have nothing to do with what I'm saying.

Africans are lagging far behind Europeans and that's the truth,it does not mean that the Europeans did not encounter problems arising from christianity too.

I'm not being inferior by saying this truth.

Can you see now that it is your school of thought that is inferior?

Atheism did not teach you how to understand what others are saying, yet you are jumping to argue with them blindly saying that someone is inferior without landing your point first.
grin

Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Feminism? by paxonel(m): 6:05pm On Aug 11, 2018

There is nothing blessed in this present world

I can see that you have totally lost hope.

Let me leave you here, obviously i can't help you.
grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Harmful Effect Of Christianity To Our Beloved Society by paxonel(m): 11:30pm On Aug 10, 2018

Yes,
Christianity and other religions are harmful but only christianity in the midst of the harm brings eternal life to as many who believes in christ.

I wish Africans could understand christianity the way White men have understand it, then there will be no harm at all.

But if we continue to mix christianity with the rotten values of African tradition(as practiced by all churches including catholic, winners chapel, RCCG, deeperlife, mfm, etc) we go continue to see anyhow in Africa and God will not deliver us.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Feminism? by paxonel(m): 11:21pm On Aug 10, 2018

solite3:
it is not about what you think but what God's word says.
Satan is the ruler of this world.

that is not the word of God.
That is what you choose to see in the bible.

I have explained to you that bible writers saw it in their days that it was Satan ruling their world going by the high level of atrocities(men enslaving men which is not common these days) committed by men in those days. They even killed Jesus christ.

Wake up, you can't continue to live in the days of the bible saying it is the word of God.
Today's world is blessed with so much knowledge and technological advancement such that life is a very simple and enjoyable one for those who take advantage of the current trend and this is how God want us to live our lives as Christians.

Which devil?

Na only Africans devil dey rule over this days, not in the real world.
Simply because Africans has choosen to be ignorant people and they are the one even carrying church and bible for head pass white men who brought christianity to Africa.
Yet to even understand the bible how it applies to real life they cannot.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Atheism? by paxonel(m): 2:05am On Aug 10, 2018

Seun:
Have you noticed that religious apologists always pretend that they don't understand what atheism means? No matter how many times you tell them that atheism is simply the absence of belief in God, they will continue to define it as the position of being 100% certain that no God exists.

so atheists were never truly 100% sure of their position as christians are 100% of their own?

That's quite interesting

Christianity Etc › Re: ‘your Vision Must Be High’ — Adeboye Stresses Need For Spiritual Excellence by paxonel(m): 1:54am On Aug 10, 2018

So having a high vision to achieve excellence or success is now equated to spiritual growth?

Are you implying that dangote had spiritual growth before he became highly visioned and successful ?

Nigeria which way? grin

This mens of God sef

Christianity Etc › Re: Churches Have Defrauded People By ‘forcing’ Them To Pay Tithe — Rev. Dr Dan by paxonel(m): 6:39am On Aug 08, 2018

True talk my bro,

To compel people to pay a monthly regular 10% is fraudulent.

Why not encourage them to give cheerfully as they want to give?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Ordination Of Remi Tinubu As Pastor - Is RCCG Compromised? by paxonel(m): 6:30am On Aug 08, 2018

Amitez:
You missed the message in the post. Go and read it again! I am not aware that a Pastor is a spouse to unbelieving husband. I am still learning though, but The RCCG that I know, where I worked as a marriage counsellor would not wed a Christian and muslim couple. So, why ordain a wife of a muslim as a Pastor?

you be moi moi counsellor o!
So if her husband na Muslim how that one take concern God and the woman christian life?

Christianity Etc › Re: My Experience On Tithe Issue: Don't Be Deceived by paxonel(m): 11:49am On Aug 07, 2018

malvisguy212:
are you an atheist ? there is nothing wrong in paying tithe, and not paying tithe is not a sin either.

there is nothing wrong in giving to the church,
But paying a compulsory 10% on regular basis in the name of tithing is fraudulent to the new covenant.

It was a old covenant thing

Sports › Frank Ribery by paxonel(op): 7:33am On Aug 06, 2018

This guy called Frank ribery should be having grand children what is he doing?

Zinedine Zidane was his team mate,they won 1998 world cup together

Ahhh!
1998?

Bayern which way huh

Manchester fans, what should we do to this man?

Christianity Etc › Re: My Experience On Tithe Issue: Don't Be Deceived by paxonel(m): 7:01am On Aug 06, 2018

Tithe is thief thief in churches by pastors don't be deceived .

Op, your story na monkey story without scriptural basis who you dey warn?

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Feminism? by paxonel(m): 4:30pm On Aug 05, 2018

solite3:
do you know that what you read in previous reply are the words of God. God 's word is for all generation.
This generation is very foolish, thinking they are wiser than their creator.
Do you know that the pharisees of Jesus days saw themselves as better than their forefathers who killed the prophets but ended killing the Son of God Jesus christ.
friend God's word does not change men are as sinful as before.
Satan is the ruler of this world don't be deceived by his tricks

if you are seeing Satan as a ruler me i don't see him that way.
I see him as a failure,
Therefore i take charge and responsibility of my affairs whether I'm succeeding or failing.

If i fail it's my fault not satan
If I succeed it's my effort not satan

Christianity Etc › Re: The Life Of A Man After His Death (pic) by paxonel(m): 12:48pm On Aug 05, 2018

Op, you are acting nollywood film here, this is the general believes of what will happen but it's not scriptural that's why you never had scriptures for each of these fake stories of yours grin

It is appointed once for men to die after that judgement, after judgement the individual is either condemned to second death or is brought back to life to continue living depending on whether the person is christian or not.

Not these fake story you people are using to threaten your lives and that of other people

Education › Re: N-Power Beneficiaries Donate Volleyball Court To Eweka Primary School by paxonel(m): 12:33pm On Aug 05, 2018

Avedonn:
After wasting their time you'd still release them back to labour market.

This government lack direction.

you don't mean it?

You mean, n power is a temporary job for it beneficiaries?

This ostrich necked man sef
grin

Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Feminism? by paxonel(m): 6:32am On Aug 05, 2018

solite3:
who is talking of African mentality? op is talking of God's inspired word.
As far as Christianity is concern the word of God defines how we should live and our right.
lol unbelievers? unbelievers cannot understand the things of the spirit.
who determines what justice and equity is? God or man?

Don't you know the whole world is in wickedness? and the god of this world is the devil?

the world can never love the truth

1 Corinthians 1:21
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

1 Corinthians 1:27
But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1 Corinthians 2:12
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

1 Corinthians 3:18
Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

1 Corinthians 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

1 John 2:16
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

1 John 3:13
Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.

1 John 5:19
And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

the word of God has never found place in the heart of the self righteous and proud humanity.

very true!
Now, you will agree with me that times are changing and mankind are evolving from one level of moral consciousness to a better level as people are getting more educated over time?
That the way things were in the days those scriptures you quoted above were documented are not the same with the way things are now, that times have changed?

The word of God is those days was straight foward and simple, Jesus is the christ believe in him and be saved but very few people understood and believe that and others thought it was a foolish message. that was why those scriptures put it that God has choosen the foolish things to confound the wise.

Today, we have billions of people who have believed in christ and are all saved, so your thinking that the world is in wickedness is only subjected to you, not all Christians think like that.

Whenever you read scriptures like all the ones you quoted, ask yourself these questions :
-when was these scriptures written?
-why was the scriptures written?
-To whom were the scriptures referring to?
-does these scriptures truly apply to todays reality?

Because, certainly these scriptures were referring to people of the days they were written as the writers saw them, not these days again.

Christianity Etc › Is Catholic Baptism Different From Pentecostal Baptism? by paxonel(op): 1:51pm On Aug 04, 2018

The biggest confusion that has erupted the church today are human inability to speak in one voice, perhaps out of human differences. Hence, there are diverse of doctrines and tanets yet in the same body of christ.
Today, a catholic christian who chooses to join pentecostalism will be mandated to re-baptised even after he was baptised as a catholic.
The same thing applies to a pentecostal christian who goes to a catholic church to receive the holy communion. He will be mandated to go through the routine cathecism before he can receive the communion.
Now, is there any difference between the catholic baptism and the pentecostal baptism?
Why are Christians who were baptized by both sides not being accepted by each of the sides?
Now, this is not to exert superiority or inferiority of one baptism over the other.
The op is justice asking a sincere question as christ will ask, therefore sincere answers are needed.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Changes Church Teaching On Death Penalty, Declares It 'inadmissible" by paxonel(m): 1:21pm On Aug 04, 2018

THIS POPE IS MY MAN!

GOD BLESS THE POPE

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