winner01: I don't care if a king was saved or not. I've made my point clear. There was a large inscription which ordinarily should make god-hating atheists raise an eyebrow considering the fact that they sue almost everything that has an element of god in it even if it is religious or not.
When you speak about obscure African minds, please limit it to yourself, I've drawn a red line and I gave enough examples of atheists obsession with anything remotely God. I gave an example of an harmless religious post on nairaland when the Op simply tried to thank God for his life and he was ridiculed for it.
What proof do you have that a simple sentence like "God save me" is not religiously inclined but glorious. Are deluded people now free to use the word God in a neutral setting or am I just meant to believe what you think the inscription meant
And Ive been too busy enjoying the game of football, i didn't know there were rules against players celebrating by exercising their freedom of religious beliefs, please give me proof, enlighten me
Born is the king was in Stamford bridge. Did God saved the king that was born in Stamford bridge on the pitch in camp nou? I don't think so
I'm not trying to sound like an atheist but the truth is, in our obscure African minds we misinterprete every little figurative language we see anywhere including those ones in the bible
Understand the meaning of the inscription, it wasn't religious based in anyway, it was all about the glory.
Remember, there are rules against religious based inscriptions currently adopted by world football bodies, that still stands. That's why you don't see things like thank you Jesus on inner verses of celebrating players anymore.
Stampford bridge has been glorified over camp nau for too long, but on that very day, LIONEL MESSI plucked down that glory.
The more I see buffoonery in church, and mega-stupidity.....................................the more my confidence increases!!!
Buffoonery and mega stupidity are also found everywhere, not only in churches. Now check out this ,will you now say this is enough reason to confidently say you are not a Nigerian?
[s]1. When you go to bed every night and wake up every morning without thanking God.
2. When you stay for a whole day, weeks or even months without reading your Bible.
3. When you make or answer calls, chat on Facebook and whatsapp, take selfie inside church while service is on.
4. When you don’t ever make out time for studying or quiet time with God.
5. When you pick your Bible to read, when you are praying or meditating and your phone rings, if you abandon the Bible reading and prayers to answer your phone
6. When your phone is very handy during prayer session or Bible studies so you can respond to comments on your post.
7. When the first thing you do when you wake up is Facebook and the last thing you do before you sleep is whatsapp.
8. When you misinterpret the Grace of God and believe that GRACE is licence to live in sin because Jesus already paid the price.
9. When you start seeing everything wrong with the church, the pastors, the Christians, the workers and you unilaterally abandon your duty post saying i am no longer a worker for God.
10. Finally, when you read this post and didn’t share with others, to help Liberate and snatch someone out of the Devils reach, you are simply telling the devil ” KEEP IT UP”!![/s]
Another deluded assumptions arising from the fears or timidity of whoever wrote this A timid christian is a powerless christian.
How can you be so afraid of the devil that you begin to develope unnecessary rules for yourself to live?
[s] Finally you have fulfilled the mandate of your master the Devil! I wish you would know the Scriptures well. Do you know why God destroyed the tower of Babel? It's because the people tried to unite against the will of God. God commanded man to multiply and fill the earth but people tried to build the Babel to live together in harmony. When mankind unite they will certainly stand against the Almighty God. Christ told us that the world will hate us for His name's sake, do you then want the world to love us for Christ's sake? Impossible! Apostles and the early church suffered the same rejection and were martyred for Christ's sake.[/s]
Does this really make sense?....living in a bubble makes you more socially integrated and mentally sound? The farther a student lives from school... the more socially integrated he becomes because he will be exposed to and has to interact with a wayyy wider cross section of people. People who move in small
circles are usually unsocial and uncomfortable outside their circle/comfort zone.....the type that become mass murderers. Better fornstudies..mno doubt...but not for socialization or mental soundness.
Ubenedictus: you guys just enjoy creating a false dichotomy, religion is believe in a supreme being and the practices associated with that belief, Christianity is exactly that a belief in a supreme being and it attendant practices... the simple deduction is that Christianity is a religion. there is no way to escape that truth.
you can differentiate it and say it isn't like other religions, for----- reasons. but it is still a religion.
HigherEd: Bishop Oyedepo:"We've had A Member Who Flies In From Germany For Sunday Services"
At time 40:00 to 41:00 Bishop Oyedepo talking to Graduates of Covenant University talked about the importance of Impact. He explained that without impact there was no way church members would leave Lagos where many other churches(which are very good) existed to come all the way to Ota where Canaanland is located. He cited an example of an individual who comes to worship at Canaanland all the way from Germany for Sunday service. According to the Bishop the individual flies in on Sunday morning and flies back at Sunday evening to start work on Monday(The Individual presumably owns a Private Jet)
My brother, saying the individual flies from Germany every Sunday morning and goes back in the evening is exaggeration. It is not a realistic story. Do you know what is means to fly from Germany? Atleast 6 hours on jet, and you do that every week for what will never profit you?
live4dgospel: I have told you that Satan uses religions to confuse mankind. By making Christianity a religion of this world, it is like equating Christianity to Buddhism and Confucianism etc. Today we have people advocating for religious harmony, they want people to accept that Christianity is no different from other religions. Are you still ignorant of Satan tricks and wiles? Satan himself created all these religions by possessing men. But Christ gave us His word to have faith in.
You funny o, So you don't want religious harmony are you sure you are not Satan like this? Do you think that Jesus came on earth to fight other religions and the same time preached love and peace?
You see why i never wanted to respond to you in the first place, it's like your mind is already made up to accept perverted ideas not different from religious extremists like boko haram and ISIS who thinks their religion is superior to other religions and therefore fights and kills people who don't share their beliefs.
I really don't have time for people like that, not even for christians who thinks christianity is superior to Islam and other religions.
live4dgospel: There is nothing like Christian religion in the Bible
God is not interested in whatever name people give to the fact that they believe in Christ, whether people call it religion or faith or whatever, he is not interested in names. Rather, what he is interested in, is that there are people who believe in Christ and these people are saved. John 3:16. At what point were they saved? They were saved when Jesus died and resurrected.
1 Corinthians 15:14 says And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching in vain, and your faith is also vain.
So, the resurrection of Christ marks the point when the christian religion or the christian faith was established here on earth.That day, he built his church. Before then, he told his disciples i will build my church. After the resurrection, the religion started with 120 people at Pentecost. Act 1:15. This 120 people have grown to billions of people known as christians worldwide today. The name was gotten from Antioch like you said, but the religion did not start at Antioch. It started immediately Jesus resurrected following Pentecost. Act 1:15. Like i said before, what matters to God is not name, what matters is that people have believed, and that started long before Antioch. So, i don't know what today christians are thinking.
It was in Antioch that believers were first called Christians
thank God you know that there were believers first, before the naming at Antioch
because of their Christ-like behaviours (Acts 11:26)
point of correction, no one is christ-like. Do you know what it means to be christ-like? It means to live a life without committing one sin like Jesus did which is not realistic
As I have said earlier, religion is simply human thoughts or a mixture of human thoughts
Whatever, it is God that allows the humans to think that way. Perhaps for his own glory
whereas faith is believing in the word of God alone
if this is how Hebrews 11:1 defined faith then you are right that the christian faith is not a religion, but if the definition is faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen, then certainly christianity is religion.
Confucianism, Buddhism etc are all products of human thoughts.
now, consider this parable of Jesus
Matthew 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the TREES. therefore EVERY TREE which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
The question is, why will Jesus use a plural term TREES instead of a singular term TREE? And why are they all trees trees trees and no one of them was a different noun or thing? This tells you that christianity is not different from other religions only that christianity, among other religions on earth is the only way to eternal life . Jesus says I'm the way the truth and the life, not Muhammed or Abraham or any of the founders of other religions.
live4dgospel: Instead of resorting to mere mockery, I would like you to disprove me with the word of God if you are a believer or logical reasoning if you an atheist. I'm humbly waiting...
Ok, I will simply do that. But you just have to read carefully, and think ( meditate) too
live4dgospel: There is nothing like Christian religion in the Bible. It was in Antioch that believers were first called Christians because of their Christ-like behaviours (Acts 11:26). As I have said earlier, religion is simply human thoughts or a mixture of human thoughts and the word of God, whereas faith is believing in the word of God alone. Confucianism, Buddhism etc are all products of human thoughts.
just laughing at the level of your delusion
Whoever is teaching you this is collecting tithe and offering from you for free
It seems that man was holding u down, Because the minute he died unleashed like a chained dragon with heavy makeup and long false nails.
Why didn't u dress like dat wen papa was alive?
You must be deeper life or any of these Yoruba churches You people judge others dressings a lot, it's atribute of Yoruba tradition anyway. It's primitive
chikachuks1: For some time now, the popular radio presenter Ifedayo Olarinde popularly called OAP Daddy Freeze has been trending with his freethesheeple movement. In this movement, he advocates that members should stop paying tithe and offerings to the church. This is because the pastors use the money realized through this means to enrich themselves. With this his campaign, he has successfully gained more popularity and followers. Yet, we must not be deceived with his philosophies on tithing. The truth remains that there is a Bible passage to back up almost everything we do and because of this fact, many people end up misusing and misinterpreting the Bible just to suit their selfish philosophies and ideologies.
We see that Daddy Freeze backs up his ideologies with certain Bible passages, yet we must not be deceived. As Christians, we must know that the fact that the Bible is been quoted does not make it the word of God. We must also look at the kind of people that quotes it to ascertain if or not it God’s word. For example, the devil came to Jesus to say “it is written”. And truly, if we search the Bible well, we will see all the passages the devil quoted. Does that then mean that it is the word of GOD? So we must look deeply if we must avoid been deceived by empty fables.
With this ideology of Daddy Freeze on tithe and offering, the devil has gained more ground in the Nigerian Church as people are been deceived that the new testament church is not supposed to pay tithe. Many people say that tithing is an Old Testament commandment. Permit me to say that more than 60% of the recorded promises in the Bible are found in the Old Testament. If we consider tithing to be an Old Testament something, then we should also consider those blessings to be Old Testament stuffs. The church has now successfully divided into 2 parts and some ungrounded ministers has come up to defend tithing without strong convictions.
The scripture says that we should not be deceived. Therefore, we must make sure that we stand on the Word of God been deeply rooted and built up in Christ. The Bible commands that we should bring in all the tithes into the store house. Our main concern should be to obey the Word of God. It is left for God to judge those who misuse the fund. Once we give the tithe, it is no longer our money but God’s. Therefore, what it is been used for is God’s business and not ours. On the day of account presentation, God will request for account from these men. Oh, may we not be too concerned with what our pastors use our tithe to do that we forget our focus.
Daddy freeze simply goes about reading his own mind into the scripture. God is not an author of confusion, neither is He and author of division. Men of old paid tithe and reaped the benefit. Some men of our days also paid tithe and reaped the benefit. Then why should we not pay tithe. The devil knows pretty well that there are lots of things to be benefited from tithing faithfully and he never wants us to partake of them.
I strongly stand to say that the message and teaching of Daddy Freeze is not from God at all. These are my few reasons.
1) Daddy Freeze has no respect for God’s anointed Daddy Freeze has no respect for anointed men of God. He has spoken severally against Pastor Adeboye, Bishop Oyedepo, Pastor Matthew Ashimolowo and many others. Daddy Freeze once referred to Bishop Oyedepo as a bald headed man. The messengers God uses to carry out His purpose on earth are not men who lack respect for God’s anointed. The reformers of old were not disobedient to God’s anointed. Hate speech was not so much found in their mouth. Therefore, if Daddy Freeze was sent by God, he should have at least respected authorities. Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee (Jude:9). We must understand that God is very careful and meticulous on the kind of vessels He uses.
2) He is a divorcee I gathered on the media that Daddy Freeze divorced his first wife and is currently engaged, set to get married to another. If he divorced his first wife and remains single, he will not be faulted. But for the fact that despite been divorce, he is in a bid to get married to another. For more understanding on divorce and remarriage, may I refer us all to 1 Corinthians chapter 7.
3) Daddy Freeze has no record of any strong spiritual life Did God actually raise him up? How do we believe that God raised him up when we cannot see any record of his spiritual history? There are series of training processes which the men God uses must undergo. Some of these training processes are private and personal, while others are public and can be seen. Let us believe that we cannot see that which is personal. Yet, what of the public ones? Why are there no records of them? I refused to join the crew of those who has fallen into this strong sedition raised by Daddy Freeze.
At the end time like this, we must prepare to hear anything, yet we must not obey and adhere foolishly. We must examine every message we hear. We must taste every spirit. We must use the truth of God’s word to weigh every message we hear. In conclusion, Daddy Freeze and his message are not sent from God. Therefore, I advice everyone of us to keep paying tithe. By the way, all that we have is given to us by God. Is it a big thing for God to ask only 10% of what his has given us? http://www.christianityupdate.com/blog/daddy-freeze-opinion-is-not-from-god/
kaluxy007: So freeze criticized Pastors to gain followers
this is not necessarily the motive
and very soon he'll start getting donations from people but will he show his members the cheques he's been receiving
i wish he will this transparent. But i think it's about the information he is passing across. If he saying the truth no one cares to monitor his account.
All this while I've been silent concerning this bros matter, all my life I don't think I have attended church a hundred times
so you have never paid tithe to pastors a hundred times you still have the got to condemn people who don't pay tithe by saying "you won't pay to pastors but how many people have you helped with the 10%?? Simply say you can't let go of 10% rather than ranting on how Pastors leave large" ?
Freeze supporters please answer this questions - How well has Freeze studied the Bible that he would come out openly to say he will lead multitudes
no pastor in Nigeria have studied bible half of daddy freeze, they have been leading people blindly
- In his case who called him?? We all know he called himself na
then, in that case, all the pastors in Nigeria called themselves too.
- A man that couldn't save his marriage is he the one that would give you directions on how to go about your lives?
this is not a sound argument, think of something else. Pastor Chris okotie and oyakhilome are still leading.
Note- I too hasn't paid tithe but I won't use fraudulent pastors as excuse
then wait and see if freeze will be fraudulent collecting tithe and first paw paw before you judge him
live4dgospel: So what's your point? Christianity is a religion as given in the example of your dictionary? Read my writing again, did I rule out the possibility of Christianity becoming a religion to some people? I was distinguishing between 'Christian religion' and 'Christian faith in the word of God'. They are diametrically opposed. Religion was created by man but God gave us His Word for us to believe in. Who created Confucianism? Who created Buddhism? Who created Islam? Didn't I tell you that no dictionary can actually define religion? If not, did your dictionary definition give way for 'Christian faith in the Word of God'? No! Because according your dictionary if some people have faith in the word of God, it is a religion.
You shouldn't have problem with the word religion because it is the contemporary word used for faith. When the bible says without faith it is impossible to please God it meant without the christian religion or the christian faith it is impossible to please God. So, faith and religion are one and the same, only that the former was mostly used during bible days. For instance, when some disciples were asked, what is your faith? (Invariably means what religion do you belong or were you baptized into? Act 19:3) Their response will certainly be "either i belong to Christ or i belong to the christian religion or faith which is, I was baptized unto Christ.(not of John the Baptist anymore)". Or they will pledge allegiance to John the Baptist which they actually did.
John the Baptist came with another religion entirely totally different from the christian faith, which was short lived. The old testament or the old covenant is another religion entirely known as Judaism, not christianity.
But a lot of these basis of understanding have changed today. Today, when christians read bible they do not consider history, all they want is, let's do religion. This has become a big problem to the christian faith today. I call it lack of intelligence
live4dgospel: Is Christianity a religion? No! To us who believe in this gospel of water and the Spirit it is not a religion. But to those who don't believe in this gospel Christianity has become a religion! When one keeps abusing opium, he will die in the end. Religion is an opium to those who fall into it. It is perhaps even more addictive than any drug. To believe in a religion called Christianity, one has to believe even more, strive more, serve more, live more virtuously, and sin no more. It entails an endless series of more and more requirements, suffocating its followers till they are dead. If one is virtuous, he has to be even more virtuous, and when he becomes more virtuous, he still has to be more virtuous than this; and so mankind strives ceaselessly to reach perfection, only to die without reaching it. The same phenomenon is found in the religion called Christianity. How horrific it is! Some people even sacrifice their lives for the religion they believe in. It’s the Devil who taught them this. When people believe in a religion at first, the Devil makes them feel as if they have no more sin, but with this he makes them addicted to their religion. So they must remain in their religion, as the Devil makes it seem as if they would die if they left. Put simply, Satan has injected mankind with an opium of religion. The substance in this syringe is a vile fluid called religion, and it is this shot that Satan has injected mankind. Once injected with the opium of religion, everyone tries to become divine like God, only to die in vain. To some people, Satan injected a shot of particularly noxious religious opium called Buddhism. He said to them, “You must become divine. You must be emancipated. You must reach Nirvana.” Whoever was injected with this shot of religion had to climb onto a mountain, practice asceticism, and pretend to have transcended this world. Each and every one of all those injected with the shot of religion has to fast and deceive himself. Whoever gets the shot of religion, even just once, is headed to hell; such a person ends up standing against God, opposing His Word of Truth, and rejecting His blessings bestowed on him. This is how terrifying the shot of religion is. The injection of religion is the most fearsome drug on this planet. I’ve heard that drugs nowadays are extremely powerful, more than ever. Apparently, just trying them once is enough to make one completely addicted. So when someone tries them just once, from this very moment on, he gets absolutely hooked and has to keep using them time after time. Likewise, the injection of all religions, not just of Christianity, is powerful enough to make one addicted with just a single shot. It makes no difference which religion we are speaking of; from Islam to Hinduism, Buddhism, Adventism, Mormonism, Confucianism, Unification Church, shamanism, and animalism, every religion alike is extremely addictive with just one shot, and at its end is the gaping mouth of hell. This shot of religion is such a deadly shot. Who, then, made the substance of this injection called religion? It’s the Devil who made it. It’s the Devil who administered this shot of lies, saying, “You will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil,”(Genesis 3:4-5) Everyone who received this shot tempted by the promise of “becoming like God” all reached death. Falling into sin, he became a sinner; trying to escape from this sin on his own, he suffered; desperate to forget this suffering, he took a drug called religion; and the moment he got addicted, he mistook it to mean that he was somehow freed from sin. You must realize that it is for not believing in Jesus Christ and rejecting Him that one is cast into hell. Yet Satan has injected such a toxic shot that many people remain unable to break free. However, even those who were injected with this shot can now be saved by believing in the gospel of the water and the Spirit given by Jesus Christ. Chapter three of Genesis speaks about this shot. What kind of injection is this shot? It is an injection that deceives mankind and makes human beings drift away from and become separated from God. Satan stirred up doubt by asking, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?” This was not the truth, but disbelief stemming from doubt. It’s because people received the shot of religion that they are constantly doubting their prospect for entering Heaven and trying to save themselves all on their own. From Genesis 3:1 and on, the Bible explains how Satan injected mankind with religion. It’s the Devil who administered this shot of religion. What kind of injection did the Devil give, and what kind of antidote has God provided? The Devil injected the shot of religion, while God has injected its antidote that neutralizes the toxic effects of this religious shot. The specific medicine that God freely gives that cures you from the fatal toxin of Satan is the gospel of the water and the Spirit. I admonish you all to realize that it is the gospel of the water and the Spirit that God wants to bestow upon you, to turn you around and return you to the Truth, and to be truly born again by believing in the gospel of the water and the Spirit. Get to know this gospel of water and the Spirit today by visiting www.bjnewlife.org to request for free books, or get this e-book for free here [PDF] (2 megabytes only)
live4dgospel: No dictionary can accurately portray the concept of religion.
Another deluded response!!
RELIGION (Oxford dictionary) a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: example : the christian religion, the Buddhist religion, the Islam religion. etc
live4dgospel: Is Christianity a religion? No! To us who believe in this gospel of water and the Spirit it is not a religion. But to those who don't believe in this gospel Christianity has become a religion! When one keeps abusing opium, he will die in the end. Religion is an opium to those who fall into it. It is perhaps even more addictive than any drug. To believe in a religion called Christianity, one has to believe even more, strive more, serve more, live more virtuously, and sin no more. It entails an endless series of more and more requirements, suffocating its followers till they are dead. If one is virtuous, he has to be even more virtuous, and when he becomes more virtuous, he still has to be more virtuous than this; and so mankind strives ceaselessly to reach perfection, only to die without reaching it. The same phenomenon is found in the religion called Christianity. How horrific it is! Some people even sacrifice their lives for the religion they believe in. It’s the Devil who taught them this. When people believe in a religion at first, the Devil makes them feel as if they have no more sin, but with this he makes them addicted to their religion. So they must remain in their religion, as the Devil makes it seem as if they would die if they left. Put simply, Satan has injected mankind with an opium of religion. The substance in this syringe is a vile fluid called religion, and it is this shot that Satan has injected mankind. Once injected with the opium of religion, everyone tries to become divine like God, only to die in vain. To some people, Satan injected a shot of particularly noxious religious opium called Buddhism. He said to them, “You must become divine. You must be emancipated. You must reach Nirvana.” Whoever was injected with this shot of religion had to climb onto a mountain, practice asceticism, and pretend to have transcended this world. Each and every one of all those injected with the shot of religion has to fast and deceive himself. Whoever gets the shot of religion, even just once, is headed to hell; such a person ends up standing against God, opposing His Word of Truth, and rejecting His blessings bestowed on him. This is how terrifying the shot of religion is. The injection of religion is the most fearsome drug on this planet. I’ve heard that drugs nowadays are extremely powerful, more than ever. Apparently, just trying them once is enough to make one completely addicted. So when someone tries them just once, from this very moment on, he gets absolutely hooked and has to keep using them time after time. Likewise, the injection of all religions, not just of Christianity, is powerful enough to make one addicted with just a single shot. It makes no difference which religion we are speaking of; from Islam to Hinduism, Buddhism, Adventism, Mormonism, Confucianism, Unification Church, shamanism, and animalism, every religion alike is extremely addictive with just one shot, and at its end is the gaping mouth of hell. This shot of religion is such a deadly shot. Who, then, made the substance of this injection called religion? It’s the Devil who made it. It’s the Devil who administered this shot of lies, saying, “You will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil,”(Genesis 3:4-5) Everyone who received this shot tempted by the promise of “becoming like God” all reached death. Falling into sin, he became a sinner; trying to escape from this sin on his own, he suffered; desperate to forget this suffering, he took a drug called religion; and the moment he got addicted, he mistook it to mean that he was somehow freed from sin. You must realize that it is for not believing in Jesus Christ and rejecting Him that one is cast into hell. Yet Satan has injected such a toxic shot that many people remain unable to break free. However, even those who were injected with this shot can now be saved by believing in the gospel of the water and the Spirit given by Jesus Christ. Chapter three of Genesis speaks about this shot. What kind of injection is this shot? It is an injection that deceives mankind and makes human beings drift away from and become separated from God. Satan stirred up doubt by asking, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?” This was not the truth, but disbelief stemming from doubt. It’s because people received the shot of religion that they are constantly doubting their prospect for entering Heaven and trying to save themselves all on their own. From Genesis 3:1 and on, the Bible explains how Satan injected mankind with religion. It’s the Devil who administered this shot of religion. What kind of injection did the Devil give, and what kind of antidote has God provided? The Devil injected the shot of religion, while God has injected its antidote that neutralizes the toxic effects of this religious shot. The specific medicine that God freely gives that cures you from the fatal toxin of Satan is the gospel of the water and the Spirit. I admonish you all to realize that it is the gospel of the water and the Spirit that God wants to bestow upon you, to turn you around and return you to the Truth, and to be truly born again by believing in the gospel of the water and the Spirit. Get to know this gospel of water and the Spirit today by visiting www.bjnewlife.org to request for free books, or get this e-book for free here [PDF] (2 megabytes only)
KingOfAmebo: I still dont understand why some churches are hell bent on "tithing" and less focus on "offerings" which is even more important.
Which is more important? The money you collect to further expand the ministry and used to help the needy or the money you collect and it goes straight into your pastors pocket.
If you want to give every Sunday in church you can give an " offering " an offering is used for the further expansion of the ministry and used to help the needy (including the pastor) that's if you don't want to go to orphanages yourself, with the "offering" you can give up to any amount you can and not subjected to give a certain percentage... you can even give everything you have if that's what suit you.
A 'tithe' (that monthly 10% enslavement fee) on the other hand goes straight into the "Pastors" bank account and he can chose to give to the poor or decides to buy another shinny "private jet' the " Free money" belongs to him and not to God.
Bottom line, If you want to really give to God and you are sceptical about how the Church will spend your money (judging from the overwhelming list of fake churches around) it is better you give to the poor directly, help the helpless directly, give scholarships directly, help your neighbors directly, feed those in hunger directly, or setup an NGO if you have the funds.... The bible which is the word of God never made it mandatory to give "through" the church if you must help someone.
I support giving of "offering" and highly unapologetically against "tithing"
Op, go sleep , There is nothing like hellfire, the doctrine is an epitome of ridicule . I can joke on it anyhow i like.
In the first place even if there was anything like fire burning people christians are never entitled to be there because they were bought by Christ, so they have every power and authority to joke over the rubbish hellfire. Secondly, having said there is nothing like hellfire, go and find out what Jesus meant by hellfire. There is another one recorded in revelation known as the lake of fire, it is not the same thing as hell fire.
Those churches that says their women should not wear earrings and make up are doing harm to their women this modern day,Let them free these women.
The women should free themselves and understand that God has given them power now to decide. Whatever they bound on earth shall be bound in heaven and whatever they loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven means that, any decision they take for themselves now, stands. They should not allow anybody impose their beliefs on them
Here is a video of a monkey possessed by this evil demon, In fact The monkey achieved orgasm at a point This demon has to be cast out! This is a sign of the end time, See the strange things happening!
abc115: He also confessed that he and his colleagues employ the 'threat of curse' to frighten church members to part with their money. In a video that has now gone viral, the Bishop said pastors are in the habit of using certain “semantics” to manipulate their members into paying tithe.
this is exactly how oyedepo and adeboye raise money for their private jets and build their universities, when you ask them they say they were into book selling
“You know we conjure all kinds of semantics like, ‘If you don’t pay your tithe, your life will be tight,’ and the people pay out of fear without God’s blessing.
this is tithing.
“God wants you to pay tithe out of love, it shouldn’t be about the money, but about Jesus
God don't want any christian to pay tithe, God want christians to give. Giving and tithing is not the same thing. When a christian pay tithe out love it is no more tithing, it is willful giving
I think many atheists broke away from organized religions, took the moral codes of these religions for themselves but do not have a complete guide that help them live successfully on the moral codes they adopted. Hence, they need documentation or some kinda reference or holy book to fall back at, when the need arises or they have nothing to pass to their generations in order to main their beliefs of atheism in their offspring.
So, many children of the atheists are consciously or unconsciously returning to theism not minding what their parents believe
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheistic Nuisance, Barcelona And Chelsea by paxonel(m): 8:23am On Mar 18, 2018
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