₦airaland Forum

frosbel2:
My fellow Nigerian Christians, we are all against the Islamization of Nigeria and imposition of Sharia law.

But do we and should we support the complete and total evangelization of Nigeria, from South to North so that every soul in Nigeria would be converted to Christianity? Should this be our main and common goal?

Should Nigerian be Christianised?

It's not necessary

z11111:
Dear Admin,

My wedding is less than a week away but I am far from being very happy at all.

I made a serious mistake and I am getting married to someone I do not love to pay for that mistake.

I met Dupe through one of my friends in a church that I attend. The church is a large one and I was encouraged to register with one of the youth arms of the church. I joined this group where young workers meet once in a month. It was during one of the monthly meetings I met Dupe. I noticed she was overly an extrovert and it was very easy to spot her in the group. After the meeting,she came to introduce herself and wanted to be friends. That I didn't mind.

There were other ladies in the group other than Dupe. I was friendly with some too. This was made possible as there was also a whatsapp group that was used to keep in touch with everyone.

Dupe started liking me. She actually flirted with me. I found it interesting. Less than a month we met,she told me she was attracted to me. I told her I wasnt. Besides,I was not ready for any relationship. I was sharing an apartment with friends. I wanted to achieve a few more milestones in my life before getting married.She said its ok for us to be friends. I didnt mind that. She would send me suggestive text messages and she started to visit me. She flirted with the guys and before long,the guys told me they had slept with her. I was surprised.

It was that information that made me yield to Dupe’s advances. Seeing that she was giving out her goods freely,I didnt mind to partake in it. Thats how I entered into a sexual relationship with Dupe. As far as I was concerned,I was just having fun as long as she was giving it. And I was not the only beneficiary. But that fun was short lived!

Several months passed by ,Dupe came to me to me and to my greatest surprise , she was ....

http://livelystones.com.ng/why-do-i-have-to-get-married-just-to-make-things-right/

If i were you i will go ahead and marry the girl, perhaps you might find a reason to love her later,
And if the reason is not coming up for a period of one year, then you must have seen another girl you love enough to marry.
Life goes on

predmine20:
Don't be deceive the days are evil so people such as daddy freeze will try to lure many from the truth in order to be lost forever.

Daddy freeze is an ANTI CHRIST and have 5 valid reasons to back my claim however short.

1. Daddy freeze preach against tithing when tithing is part of helping to spread the gospel and also to support its works as found in deuteronomy,malachi and mathew.

2. Daddy freeze preach against offerings or voluntary donations but the scripture supports such as found in mathew,mark and luke.

3. Daddy freeze preach against gullible followers of the gospel but the scripture never said such as found in mathew,luke and john.

4. Daddy freeze preach against pastors and bishops of collecting bribes through tithes and offerings in order to fly private jets but he is now clamouring for donations in order to start a church where he will preach against tithing.

5. And lastly he mocked a pastor that died recently from the injuries he sustained from an attack caused by badoo.
Daddy freeze didn't show any sign of sympathy to the dead instead he went round town saying the dead pastor should have been brought back to life.

The bottomline is that the days of this man call daddy freeze is numbered and i wept for his followers because they are surely doomed with him except they repent from this blasphemy.

He is wrong by mocking mfm church and the pastor does not make him Antichrist.
You that cannot define who an Antichrist should be are you not giving freeze proofs to say that most christians are ignorant?

Themandator:
The church of Christ did not get to Rome,as the Roman Catholic Church but simply as witnesses of Christ who the Roman authority took little interest in until they started turning many away from pagan worship through proofs. Then the authorities went on clampdown and persecuted the church which had no central authority but just an assembly of believers for years, confiscating the scriptures and making it illegal to own it.... The scripture was already in circulation around Asia..... Daniel had the book of Jeremiah and was studying already while in prison.....It wasn't in the hands of Catholic Church authority. The old testament was a requirement, more like a catechism amongst the israelites as they were required to mediate upon it, day and night.

It wasn't until Constantine, a war time general became the emperor that a dramatic change occurred in the relationship between the state and the Christian community. He firstly put a stop to the persecution of Christians and then declared citizens right for them. Then they started coming out openly to profess their faith but the emperor had other designs.

He afterwards summoned the different groups to a meeting....the beginning of organised Christianity. Historians tell you that from records, there was no Bishop of Bishops until Constantine introduced it. Constantine demanded as head of government and the pagan culture to have a title equal to his title in his pagan religion....the birth of vicar.... Meaning indirect Christ


When the outcome of this meeting got out to the larger companies of believers, some rejected it the idea that a man who was yet to renounce his pagan worship would assume such title........the return of persecution.... Those who accepted became an arm of the state and were empowered by the state to go after the other believers...... Persecution and inquisition....

The Roman empire, the United States of America of that era did sponsor the spread of catholicism to other parts of the world....that was how the domination came by....state sponsored.... It was not scriptural that led to protest but the content of the scripture which Martin came in contact as a Catholic...... Martin was in Germany protected against at the Catholic wish by the German Princes and elite...... Martin didn't champion pentecostalism for pentecostals are not protesting anything like Martin. What he championed was protestanism.... A church in his honour today is Lutheran church.


Pentecostals are saints who have received the indwelling of the Holy Spirit as recorded in Acts 2..... They received it on the day of pentecost, hence the name pentecostals. What you are meaning to say is the revival. When they became emboldened after the fall of the Roman empire to once again come out publicly to profess their faith.
Currently, in China, there are lots of underground pentecostals movement who refused state regulation of their belive and what and what not to teach in church. Articles have it, that they are more in numbers than the once regulated by government.

Martin Luther was a Roman catholic priest who became a Protestant. And the current day pentecostals derived their doctrines from his teachings yes or no. ?

Current day pentecostals did not originate from the early christian apostles like Peter, Paul and Silas yes or no?

What I'm telling you is that, Martin Luther was not the first Roman catholic that protested. Infact there were Anglican, Presbyterian, and even Qua iboe before Luther came up with Lutheran church.
I attended a Lutheran school and understand the history of the church, so i know exactly what I'm talking about

Themandator:
Pentecostals couldn't have broken away from protestants when there was in fact, nothing like protestants or protestanism in the scripture but pentecostals... The origin of pentecost is found in Acts 2 from verse 1

And you agreed that at a time, Paul landed in Rome and there was eventual introduction of the Roman ordinances and rituals from their idolatory temples into the church, which became what is known as the Roman catholic today?
And that the Roman catholic dominated Europe for centuries as the only church which had authority to the scripts until there was a protest that led to establishment of the church in England( Anglican) and the likes of Methodist, Presbyterian, etc?
Where was Martin Luther at the time?

Martin Luther who championed the current day pentecostalism only came up at the middle of the fourteenth century, that was even after king James of England or Anglican took hold of a copy of the script after the fall of the Roman empire.

So what are we saying?
The current day pentecostalism only came up after the fall of the Roman empire, not the era of early christians of the bible.

Themandator:
If I am replying the same person, I ask you what baptism of the Catholic Church should be opened to pentecostals

I meant to say communion, not baptism. Communion should be opened to all christians irrespective of your sect.

and what and who is a pentecostal?

Any sect in christianity emphasizing the working and movement of the holy spirit as it was in the days of the Pentecost, who broke out from the Protestants

I think Benny hinn has also acknowledged that even people of third world countries like Nigeria have started asking questions, he must have heard about Daddy freeze. So he quickly switch to the other side and apologize.
This is very good.

BushWickBill:
I think you are taking it too far
Just look at the number of unbelieving people who are rich and ask how material blessings is exclusively for Christians as a blessing from God. There lies the irony about the prosperity gospel to me; how atheists and non Christians become rich without following the "doctrine" of the so called prosperity gospel.
Preachers just feed on the gullibility of Christians and cash in on their naïveté to become rich while selling a largely ineffective "gospel"

And they wonder why they are derisively called sheeple

We are saying the same thing ,only sheeples themselves can emancipate themselves.

Gods blessings is for everyone who works and not for lazy people irrespective of their religious beliefs

jared007:
Why do christians complain about prosperity in christendom? Isnt it scriptural to prosper? Is health, success and spiritual growth not part of prosperity? Is giving to the gospel a problem in christianity? Go and see how the Illuminati, Muslims, Jews and Jesuits are releasing money to see the destruction of fundamental christianity.

Muslims or Jews destroying christians is caused by brainwashing too, just like prosperity messages in christianity.
Prosperity gospel do not ensure equal circulation of resources in the church that's why it's undesirable. It makes only pastors becoming richer while the vast majority of church members who contribute so much money to the church are poor and frustrated sheeples. I'm very sure you are one of those who are not benefiting anything from the system yet you support it with your last drop of blood, it's so because you were brainwashed.
Only can emancipate yourself now

OtemAtum:
The DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH have said the truth. To make money easily, tell lies to the sheeple. That's the fact. Benny Hinn milked the sheeple when he was young and now that he is very old, he is coming out to confess. Hmm.

Perhaps he confessed out of fear that he may not make heaven ,not knowing where Billy Graham is right now

Themandator:
What is Catholic baptism that should be open to Pentecostals. And who is a Pentecostal?

Google pentecostalism!
Catholic church do not share communion to christians of other sects in their mass, therefore there is cleavage in the body of Christ

kpaofame:
Adeboye have.....

Including tithe collection and prophesying sudden prosperity to everyone who shout AMEN every Sunday in church which he keeps doing till tomorrow?

He knows all these are not right but he keeps doing them because they were already laid down doctrines which may cause chaos in the church when trying to revert them

Kei144:
I am an engineer. The only thing I know about language theory is in terms of formal (machine) languages.

Actually, I took the phrase "snatched up to heaven" from Re. 12:5, where the manchild born by the woman of Revelation 12 is taken up to heaven; that is a description of the rapture.

All that in revelation( sometimes you will see things like mark of the beast, 666, pests having teeths like lion, etc), including 1 thes 4:17. They are all figurative languages commonly used in the bible. What that means is that these phrases have indept meaning beyond what we see when we read them.
A good example of figurative languages are Jesus parables, he only interpreted few of his parables to his disciples.
For instance, Jesus interpreted one of his figurative language like this.

Matthew 13:37.He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38.The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39. The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

When you seperate the elements

Good seed sower=son of man
The field where the seed is being sown =the world
The good seed=children of the kingdom
The tares=children of the wicked ones
The enemy =the devil
The harvest = end of the world
The reapers = the angels

This is how to interprete a typical figurative language in the bible, it takes nothing spiritual or special ability to do, but to simply follow the elements and relate them to idea in the text.

Now let's go back to that 1 thes 4:17 again.

1Th. 4:17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

We who still alive = ?
Caught up together =?
In the clouds = in the air=?

For you to get the meaning of this elements then you have to read the whole chapter again (if possible) and relate it to see if what you think they mean(rapture) correlate with the point Paul was trying to pass across.
When you do that you will discover that the intention of Paul or the summary was not to talk about rapture(the word rapture do not exist in the bible) but to talk about resurrection of the dead .

Resurrection of the dead implies that christians will resurrect back to life and live again here on earth.

All I'm saying is, CAUGHT UP TOGETHER IN THE CLOUDS in 1 thes 4:17 do not necessarily mean people carried away to the clouds, find out it meaning.

You see how religion has been throwing millions into confusion all the while?
Don't follow your pastors or church, read your bible and understand it.

kpaofame:
Truth is most of the things you know about Nigerian pastors are things the Media or people tell you....and truth is negative news and info spreads more... I have heard personally when 2 of these popular pastor admitted the errors they practiced and how they have changed immediately someone pointed those fact in the bible... outside the glitz and glam these pastors have eternity in focus and will give anything not to miss out after preaching to others about it.

But the vast majority of the pastors especially the prominent ones like the oyedepo and adeboye will never admit their errors publicly

CHUKWUNOLOGICAL:
Yes. They are so proud my thoughts now is what about second comin, rapture and life after death Is it now about money and prosperity messages

What we see as prosperity message is that message pastors preach to their church members promising them prosperity especially when they are jobless nigerians, saying that my God shall supply all your needs according to his riches in glory.., only if they will pay tithe or first fruit, make financial vows or pledges and redeem them or pay financial sacrifices at the end, the pastor becomes rich while most of his church members remain poor in their standard of living in the society.

Now, we don't want this kind of messages anymore.
We don't want end time, second coming or rapture messages either, as they do not improve standard of living of church members but rather they put them in fear and making them coward.

We want messages that will encourage christians to pursue any form of education, acquire skills and be engaged in productive venture so that their lives will be better

Kei144:
1Th. 4:17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

Ok
I understand where your problem is coming from.

Have you ever heard of the term "figurative language " before, if you did literature in English atleast?

Kei144:
When will it begin?

The sign of Revelation 12 appeared in the sky on September 23, 2017. That was a pronouncement that the woman of Revelation 12 is about to arise. God synchronizes His great moves on earth with the ancient Hebrew calendar. The great end-time revival will begin on the first day of the first month of the ancient Hebrew calendar in 2018. The first day of the first month is the day of new moon in March 2018—four weeks away.

...The people of God that will be snatched up to heaven

op, show me where this your phrase of yours is emphasied in any of the scriptures you quoted above ??

bloodofthelamb:
I absolutely concur with you for you concur with the truth.

The scripture says if anyone be in Christ Jesus, he is a new creation old things has passed away{ including generational curse}, behold all things has become new.

I don't know where this generational curse teaching is coming from.

We are just being Africans, we so much believe in superstition we have taken it to church

sportivation:
http:///news/bishop-david-oyedepo-how-to-break-generational-curses/

This is absolutely ridiculous ,
There is nothing like generational course.

Instead of this man educating christians of the scriptures so that they will be free, he is ending up putting millions of Nigerians in unnecessary fear of the unknown and bondage.

TrueGrace:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMoq-mdqebw&t=2s

Funny enough, it is fake men of God that don't see the good that Jesus did for their members which is the fact that they are already saved and already in heaven the way they are now.

This man of God is fake

nonut:
Meanwhile, Bishop David Oyedepo is planning to add another one to his fleet.
#freethesheepie

GoodMuyis:
Humility at high level, only a humble man will publicly admit his errors and also declare a change of heart

Nigerian pastors can never never be humbled enough to admit their errors. Everything they do is right

Lagbaja01:
Pastor Chris come and see your mentor ooooo

At this point,pastor Chris is ready to deny him

salvation101:
He should even go forward to open his own church na. We would love to see the result

He is already talking about gathering money to kick off d ministry nd take it to the grassroots .. Nope he shouldn't ask ppl for money, he should practice wat he has been preaching

He reaches more people faster using the media than using church. He should keep it up this way, gradually gradually a lot of Nigerian christians are becoming educated

uzohrome:
I pay tithe everyday, to you am brainwashed right? But am getting masive result. Everything about life is spritual. You will only reap what you sow. So preach your nonsense to whom ever that is interested to listen to rubbish. Odeh

You pay tithe everyday?
You are a big lair

3k every months for these thieves

hahn:
The bible is not a reliable source of information so it is a lie

You are just blashing mouth for nothing, bring your own source of information you cannot.

People should address the root of the problem which is changing the mind and orientation of Nigerian men and not indecent dressing of women.

Men use indecent dressing as an excuse to rape women but the truth is, even if all women start dressing decently whoever have the mind to rape will still rape. And whoever does not have the mind to rape no matter how the woman dress indecently that's not his business

So make the pastor go rest

If it is not compulsory it is not tithing but willful giving.
The bible made it clear that tithing is compulsory so i don't know what this man is talking

If it is not compulsory it is not tithing but willful giving.
The bible made it clear that tithing is compulsory so i don't know what this man is talking

hahn:
Lol

A comforting lie

The bible says it and we believe,
What's your source of believing that it's a lie?
You have none