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Christianity Etc › Re: Be Enlightened, Tithe Was Not Christianity, Don't Pay Again by paxonel(op): 1:23pm On Aug 01, 2017
Tobechuckwu:
Bro,I didn't agreed with all,but just a statement u made!
Read everything I said nd compare it with urz.
(your statement)You quoted Luke 7vs28,do you why the least in the kingdom of God greater than John the baptist?
Those in the old testament, the spirit of God(holy spirit) neva lived in them permanently as we have him now,he came upon them nd left!

i never disputed this

(your statement)Secondly,you said Abraham was not a Christian then,yes I agree,but who is the father of faith you use as a Christian now!Without faith,it is impossible to please God!U called God's friend a thief nd a robber!U have forgotten that Abraham was the first man to pay tithe!

it was jesus that called him thief, remember abraham had the old covenant long before jesus came with the new covenant. read john 10:8

Thirdly,Christianity started after d death nd resurrection of Jesus christ!There was no Christian when Jesus walked the earth.
Lastly,every scripture was giving by the inspiration of the holy ghost!He is d same yesterday, today nd forever!

i never disputed this one too

so you see, everything you said you agree with me(except you want to disagree with jesus when he called abraham thief), then at the same time you pity me grin

you are funny o
Christianity Etc › Re: Be Enlightened, Tithe Was Not Christianity, Don't Pay Again by paxonel(op): 2:11pm On Jul 31, 2017
MightySparrow:
Devil's philosophy . Get knowledge. I am God and change not.
it is even the devil that misunderstand when God says i change not by taking it to mean that God did not change his covenant, therefore lets keep continue with the old order of doing things which is obviously why afrca is still backward
you will simply remain in that bondage, dont follow the philosophy of jesus first. grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Be Enlightened, Tithe Was Not Christianity, Don't Pay Again by paxonel(op): 2:03pm On Jul 31, 2017
aydes:
The bible is one, both old testament and new testament. Its a commandment of God, if you like pay if you like dont. Its for your own benefit.
Have paying tithe with a heart that youre doing it to please God. But first if you dont even have a relationship with God. You'll continue to see tithe in a different angle of you bn robbed. So be saved bro. May God help us all.
you say old testament and new testament is one?
that means you are saying that old covenant and new covenant is one.
if it is so, then what is the essence of the new covenant? if the laws of the old covenant were so that perfect why did jesus came to die?
please help me explain this parable
matthew 3:10 AND ALSO THE AXE IS LAID UNTO THE ROOT OF THE TREES, THEREFORE EVERY TREE WHICH BRINGETH NOT FORTH GOOD FRUIT IT IS HEWN(CUT) DOWN AND CAST INTO THE FIRE?
What is the axe?
what are trees?
Christianity Etc › Re: Be Enlightened, Tithe Was Not Christianity, Don't Pay Again by paxonel(op): 1:49pm On Jul 31, 2017
Tobechuckwu:
Mr man hmmmmmm,I pity you!
You quoted Luke 7vs28,do you why the least in the kingdom of God greater than John the baptist?
Those in the old testament, the spirit of God(holy spirit) neva lived in them permanently as we have him now,he came upon them nd left!
Secondly,you said Abraham was not a Christian then,yes I agree,but who is the father of faith you use as a Christian now!Without faith,it is impossible to please God!U called God's friend a thief nd a robber!U have forgotten that Abraham was the first man to pay tithe!
Thirdly,Christianity started after d death nd resurrection of Jesus christ!There was no Christian when Jesus walked the earth.
Lastly,every scripture was giving by the inspiration of the holy ghost!He is d same yesterday, today nd forever! If you like pay ur tithe nd if u like eat ur tithe,its ur choose bro.
This is my view!
who is this one? grin
you pity me, then you agree with me,
na wa o
Christianity Etc › Re: Be Enlightened, Tithe Was Not Christianity, Don't Pay Again by paxonel(op): 7:32am On Jul 30, 2017
aydes:
Bring all tithes into the storehouse, that there maybe meat in my house, whose house? Ofcourse the house od God ad in those days God recognized meat as offweinf unto him.. So if you have a thousand sheep your tithe is 100 sheep which will be taken to the store houae of the house of God. Present day we call it church altho its supposed to be the house of God cause we the saints are the church.
I hope i have thrown more light to the best of my knowledge. We just have to do the will of God, may God help us cause in all what profita a man to be a regular tither anthe Kingdom of heaven.
Thank God you say in those days,
Not this present day .
You will never quote anywhere in new testament to support tithe.
The devil have taken advantage of this ignorance to Robb the church financially for many decades now.
But not in this modern day again where there is knowledge and understanding
Christianity Etc › Re: Be Enlightened, Tithe Was Not Christianity, Don't Pay Again by paxonel(op):
petra1:
It's rather a kingdom principle . Same as tithes and offerings and prayers

Exodus 22:28
28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.


What about the scripture above . Is it for Jews



Abraham our father through whom God brought the revelation of tithe wasn't a Jew
Tithe can never never be kingdom principles.
That is what they told you, but they fail to see the contradiction there.
And you accepted it because you don't know what Jesus meant by the kingdom.
If you really want to understand these things, look at the time frame.
Old testament and their laws and prophets were never time for the kingdom of God.

Luke 7:28
For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women(including all the prophets of the old testament or old covenant) there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God(in Christianity) is greater than he(John the Baptist)

You know what that means?
Assuming John the Baptist thought tithing as a principle when he was baptising people, then he would not have thought it under the dispensation of grace, which is Christianity, how much more Malachi and all the old prophets?
OK, if Exodus 22:28 was only for the Jews?
No, it is also a universal law.
Even Jesus says in Matt 5:22
......if you tell your brother "thou fool" you will be in danger of hell fire.
So, curse or abuse is a universal sin.
Abraham was never a Christian he never had that privilege.
Infact Abraham founded Judaism (the religion of the Jews which is the old covenant).
And Jesus founded Christianity later. (If you understand Daniels prophecy when he saw the huge statue in his dream )

John 10:7-8 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep (the Jews, not Christians o)
All that ever came before me(including Abraham) are thieves and robbers: but the sheep(the Jews) did not hear them.
So Abraham is a thief and robber.
And you know what happens to thieves and robbers?
They die!!
In, summary, Abraham, all the prophets of the old and their tithes nor reach.
Them be small small bois.
So don't belittle yourself paying tithe as a Christian.
If dangote who is a Muslim never go to church to pay tithe one day, yet he is the richest man, don't you think you can make your money without tithe?
When ever any pastor want you to pay tithe, he goes to old testament.
They are called old testament pastors, everywhere in Nigeria.
They forget that old testament is Torah (holy book of judaism)
Christianity Etc › Re: Be Enlightened, Tithe Was Not Christianity, Don't Pay Again by paxonel(op): 9:56pm On Jul 28, 2017
aydes:
Malachi:3:10

Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

If you read well it says "that yhere may be meat in mine house ". Not malachis house but the house of the Lord. And if we throw more light to meat in my house in the old testament like you say it could really mean meat probably for sacrifices or to feed the poor or less priviledged. But in the modern day tithes are used to maintain the church in terms of building, instruments and major necessities as pleasurable in the sight of God not the pastor. Tho many pastors misuse the tithe which makes all believers doubt and tight fist but its truly a commandment. God cant beg cause hes the giver of all things. If you give your tithe wholeheartedlt in truth and Spirit. Youll definitely get your reward. If not challenge God.
Is house of God used in old testament the same thing as church?
What is church?
When Jesus says i will build my church what did he meant?
Is church actually a house or building for storing...
Storing tithe money used to feed the poor?
Christianity Etc › Re: Be Enlightened, Tithe Was Not Christianity, Don't Pay Again by paxonel(op): 9:40pm On Jul 28, 2017
petra1:
That means one can give tithes by choice and offering by choice but not for under compulsion

What of prayer?
Exactly!
But you know the rule has always been that if you don't tithe you are robbing God, gotten from Malachi. That rule has indirectly rendered it compulsory in churches because nobody want to be seen robbing God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Be Enlightened, Tithe Was Not Christianity, Don't Pay Again by paxonel(op): 9:25pm On Jul 28, 2017
petra1:
Exodus 20:12
12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long. .


I will also ask you if the scripture I quoted above applies to christians?



You can as well say our prayers is none effect . Let tomorrow bring what it likes , we just watch and see.
There is no correlation between the scripture you quoted with Malachi. The scripture you quoted is a universal law and it applies to everyone(Christians or Jews),
Malachi's tithing was a law only for the Jews.
That analogy of yours do not follow
Christianity Etc › Re: Be Enlightened, Tithe Was Not Christianity, Don't Pay Again by paxonel(op): 12:27pm On Jul 28, 2017
petra1:
What of offering?
Sacrifices!
If it is the money you are giving from your heart not because you were compelled or obligated,
No problem.
Tithing has been obligated and it has become liability to church members. This is wrong
Christianity Etc › Re: Be Enlightened, Tithe Was Not Christianity, Don't Pay Again by paxonel(op): 12:13pm On Jul 28, 2017
ubongoton:
Malachi said "try this if the window of heaven shall not be open for you"and we all tried and window of heaven open for those who paid it with the faith that was affirmed to them.
So mr afonja i see no reason you should try and put confusion in the church.
I'm not putting any confusion, it's just that we all fail to think.
Malachi said try this...
Was he talking to Christians?
No!
were you there when he was saying it?
No!
Then how come, all of a sudden it is working for you?
Something obviously is wrong there .
All I'm saying is, whatever is working for you, it is not your tithe that is causing it to work
Christianity Etc › Re: I'll Convert Back To Christiandoom If Christians Can Explain This Two Facts(pic) by paxonel(m): 11:47am On Jul 28, 2017
lifeispeace:
Second fact loading undecided
Op,
I must say you ask a very intelligent question.
First of all the bible never mentioned evolution talkess of kicking against it in any it chapter or verse.
Secondly, there are lot of figurative languages in the bible one of which may have been used to describe how long it took God to create Adam(not just 1 day out of the 7 days recorded in Genesis, as this may be used for the understanding of people of bible days, not for people of this current day where people are getting understanding of evolution. Because, at the time of ignorance God overlooked. Act17:30).
Example of such figurative languages is a prayer Moses made in :
Psalms 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past(as one day), and as a watch in the night.
Imagine that!
So, the bible is not in anyway against evolution, even God himself may have been evolving.
Thirdly, Charles Darwin says new species arises from pre-existing species (not necessarily means that all pre-existing species have gone into extinction).
Hence, the saying that humans must have been evolved from monkeys.
And we can still see monkeys around, why can't we then see serpents that have limbs around?
So, if God says he was cursing the serpent, does that not literally means that he was subjecting the serpent into evolution to become limbless over time?
You have your brain now, you can think
grin
Christianity Etc › Be Enlightened, Tithe Was Not Christianity, Don't Pay Again by paxonel(op): 10:54am On Jul 28, 2017
Pastors are good at quoting Malachi 3:10 a lot when they want to distort innocent and ignorant church members. Beware of your pastor irrespective of his large church.
Please note that prophet Malachi was a prophet in old testament therefore, he was an inferior prophet to us who are christians.(Luke 7:28)
He should therefore not be used to detect how Christians should live their lives in this modern day.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Side Effects Of Not Paying Tithes by paxonel(m): 7:03am On Jul 20, 2017
Goodlyhrt:
Brothers and Sisters the story of my life since I stopped paying my tithes since December of 2014 has been one of disapointment, constant job loss, hardluck, improvishness and want.


This is no joke o I've ignorantly suffered depression even close to ending my life cos of this issue even close to abandoning my faith cos I ve prayed and prayed and I feared God has abandoned me. Bad news here and there I stopped going to church long time ago and for three years now things has been so bad for me.


I was having discussions with my mum this night on this issue of fruitlessness then she asked me 'when last did you pay your tithe?' and that was my turning point, I broke down in thoughts and I've now found out that I've been my own stumbling block all these years, just this nite.


Oh! How many years I've wasted cos of disobidience, negligence to obey Gods instruction and sin.


My mum told me that its remedy is to start paying my tithe asap and I've made this decision even though I earn peanuts buh I wil endeavour to pay my tithes regurlarly
You had all those misfortune not because you stopped paying tithe but because you stopped going to church for a long time.
When you put yourself in a situation were most people you interact with are your church members, the day you stop going to church you will loose those interactions, and whatever help you have been benefiting from such interactions will all fade away, then you start suffering thinking that you are suffering because you stopped paying tithe
Or sometimes, you stop paying tithe, church members will notice and they will stop being your friend especially those that are paying
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Not A Religion. It's A Family, A Father And His Children by paxonel(m): 8:25pm On Jul 16, 2017
shadeyinka:
The ultimate goal of every Christian is to finally be with God in eternity. Now, since I know you are familiar with the Bible, what aspect of Religion did the thief on the right hand of Christ perform to earn Paradise?

So you see, a christian is not accepted because of religion. He is accepted because he asked God for the gift of acceptance. That is when a person becomes born again.

Another example:
Even though as a young person, you perform house chores, you respect your parents and you obey all the rules of your parents, you are NOT accepted on the basis of this. You are first accepted as a son before other things.

That is the position of Christians
I like you,
You are thinking.
First of all, any christian still thinking that his ultimate goal is to achieve eternity with Christ, then he has a misplaced priority.
He does not know why he is a Christian in the first place. So he is constantly cheated.
By pastors.
Come to church today
Come to church tomorrow.
He becomes a religious bigot.
Your ultimate goal as a Christian is to replenish this earth, that was the mandate God gave Adam from the beginning.
The issue of eternity has already been solved at the cross,JESUS says it is finished.
What aspect of religion did the thief performed?
The aspect of religion he performed was to believe that Jesus is the Christ which he expressed openly on the cross.
Remember, I say the moment you believe in something you are already into religion.
Infact, to God, the believe that God do not exist is already a religion like that.
You can't deceive God.
Everybody have what they believe in,
Some people are idol worshippers,
Idol is their religion.
That's why God was against the Israelites from going into idol worshiping, Because they had a covenant with him which was their religion known as Judaism today.
Some people are Muslims, Islam is their religion.
We are christians, Christianity is our religion.
So, when Jesus was saying I'm the way, he was simply saying that Christianity is the way and not any other religion.
Because Christianity was later associated with him and his resurrection.
Without resurrection no Christianity
No salvation.
All those parables he will say the kingdom of God is like unto...
He was referring to the Christian religion which was later established at the cross.
Question : what is God's kingdom?
Answer : God's kingdom is simply Christianity.
The last example you gave correlate with what I'm saying.
It's like while we were yet sinners Christ came to die, and we are justified not by works but by the Christian faith which is the religion
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Not A Religion. It's A Family, A Father And His Children by paxonel(m): 7:18pm On Jul 16, 2017
Shawl001:
You are mixing it up here. Because the white brought Christianity doesn't mean they are always right in its doctrines and teachings. In fact, check major teachers and preachers of the word both alive and late, they are extraordinarily rooted in it, some of them even father our top preachers in Nigeria. So, because certain churches abroad are not accepting certain truths or teachings doesn't mean they are right. The word of God is truth and life. It's not own by man but God. It's His word.
I did not say that their preachers are always right,
Infact religion is a major problem to their society so they don't need Africans to come and add to the problem they already have.
Every doctrine that is of the right interpretation will have a positive impact to the society.
Nigeria is where we are today because the popular doctrines, especially among protestants, are not verifiable or correlate with scriptures by common sense.
For instance, someone is saying Christianity is not a religion but a way of life. And when you scrutinize that statement you discover it's deception geared at making people believe that one can live a superior lifestyle away from the natural order of living designed by nature.
So, a lot of christians don't work but they expect supernatural blessings from church activities of praying fire prayer and shouting amen to every prophecies of pastors.
It's a pity
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Not A Religion. It's A Family, A Father And His Children by paxonel(m):
Shawl001:
You have so much contradicted yourself. Where do you belong? Anyways, I am come to buttress an established truth that, Christianity is God's kind of life in man. We are not trying to please God, we are pleased before Him through Christ Jesus. It has nothing to do with the concept of religion. It is God's way of life in man. That's all.
It's now you are talking truth.
Christianity is simply life of God in man.
It is a religion that gives the life of God to men.
And,
Show me the contradiction there?
Just one.
The way you now say it is better.
A lot of people will misinterprete you that you mean good standard of living through Christ.
You see that they have been deceiving us in Africa a lot. It seems we are not intelligent enough to understand bible.
And this Christianity we are practicing is not African but was brought to us by white men.
They practice the same religion and their lives are better but we Africans are turning things upside down for ourselves.
What you believe here, you can't go to London to preach it. You will be sanctioned.
Ask oyedepo and adeboye who have tried it.
I do not dispute the fact that you have the life of God in you. But that life is spiritually embedded and cannot be physically detected by people observing your lifestyle. That's what makes you spiritually minded and not canally(physically) minded.
If not, you will hear about christians living their lives without making any mistake or sin which is practically impossible. 1John 1:8.
Whatever lifestyle you think you are living, you have a comfortable house, car, office and a lovely family. You are not the first.
Infact, there are billions of athiests, Muslims, Hindus, Jews who are enjoying the same
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Not A Religion. It's A Family, A Father And His Children by paxonel(m): 2:25pm On Jul 16, 2017
shadeyinka:
Religion is NOT just a believe in gods

Religion is activities man does to please/appease a dirty/god/God.

In Christianity, no one can please/appease God by themselves. It was God who stretched out the Olive branch to man.

In gratitude, Christians do aspects of religion.

In summary,
Christianity at its core is NOT a religion BUT it has some aspect of religion in it.
Ok,
Other religions is BELIEF in a god which includes activities of men while Christianity is BELIEF in God having some aspect of religion in it?
So, what's the difference between the two since there are BELIEF factor in both and Christianity having a aspect of the other?
If you want to tell me you can practice Christianity by practicing the teachings of Jesus Christ of showing love to people without showing any sign of religious activities like going to church, praying in public etc, I 100% agree with you .
But even with that you are still into religion for simply the fact that you believe in God
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Not A Religion. It's A Family, A Father And His Children by paxonel(m):
Shawl001:
Jesus didn't come to start up a religion. He came to show the way, to show the truth and to give life to as many as recieved Him. Nothing more nothing less. After He left earth, they started calling certain some of the apostles Christians cos they were acting like Christ. And so the name Christianity was coined. It's not religion. It's more than a way of life. It's life itself, the God kind of life.
Keep deceiving yourself not considering that there is change of times hence change of vocabulary among men over time.
You are in 2017 reading a book called bible that was documented more than 2000 years ago and you are searching for a word RELIGION used in this modern day in place of the words FAITH, KINGDOM, ETERNAL LIFE, COVENANTetc(which were one and the same thing), used in bible days.
You better update yourself or bible will remain confused to you forever.
Question:Who started Judaism the religion of the Jews?
Answer: Abraham
Genesis 17:2 And I will make my covenant(religion) between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.
Hence Abraham was justified by his religion.
Romans 4:1-3.
Now, God has rejected the old covenant and lifted the new covenant (Christianity) to save mankind such that, just like the way Abraham was justified by his religion, we are also justified by our religion Christianity without works.
If you go down to that Romans 4.
Romans 4:24. But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
25. Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
So when i hear people defining faith as the substance of things hoped for.....
I laugh.
That is incomplete definition.
Faith is simply Christianity.
If you travel abroad and you are asked what is your faith?
It means, what is your religion?
Question: who started Christianity?
Answer : Jesus Christ.
How?
Because he brought the faith that justified people into eternal life through his death and resurrection.
So Christianity did not start at Antioch
Christianity started immediately after his resurrection with 120 people at Pentecost. Act1:19.
The religion only got the name Christianity at Antioch.
Antioch did not save anybody.
It is Christ that saves
Christianity Etc › By Responding AMEN On A Social Media, There Was Miracle by paxonel(op): 6:16pm On Jul 15, 2017
I have to screenshot this Facebook page. The question is, are these pastors involved in this of some folks are posturing as them to deceive people?

Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Not A Religion. It's A Family, A Father And His Children by paxonel(m): 4:39pm On Jul 14, 2017
Shawl001:
...believe in "a" God and not "the" God. As far as creation is concerned, we have just one God who is the Father of our Lord Jesus. Ephesians 3:14-15, sheds more light.
Whether it is the God or a god the dictionary defined it as religion so long that believe factor is there .
The moment you believe in anything whether it is THE GOD or a god you are automatically into religion.
So,christianity is religion.
Note the the word religion is our common day use.
In bible days it was the word FAITH that was used.
For instance, we were justified by faith simply means we were justified by religion?
What religion?
The christian religion.
Remember,Jesus is the founder of the Christian religion. He founded the religion to justify men before God.
So,put that into consideration
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Not A Religion. It's A Family, A Father And His Children by paxonel(m): 11:52pm On Jul 12, 2017
Shawl001:
Most of us have grown up with the concept that, Christianity is a kind of religion or one of the types of religion. It's wrong. That is just the face-value. It is far more and greater. God divinely orchestrated a means to gather "man" to Himself. A means to impart them with His kind of life. To give man a perfect and loving world in which everyone will be able to relate with Him like a big family. And for that cause did Jesus come to Earth, to open a pathway for us to God. Through Jesus, anyone can come to God's presence anytime and commune with Him. Thus, Christianity is the family; God is the Father, and we (both angels and saints alike) are the children. AMEN!
Op, define religion from English dictionary?
The last time i checked,

RELIGION
the belief in a God or in a group of gods
,an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a God or a group of gods.
How does Christianity different from this definition or are you anti-education?
Culture › Re: I Want To Learn Itsekiri Language (get In) by paxonel(m): 3:02am On Jul 08, 2017
I love this thread, I'm so learning a lot
Christianity Etc › Re: The Science, Logic, And Common Sense Of Faith by paxonel(m): 6:42pm On Jul 07, 2017
MrPresident1:
‘Having faith’ is perhaps the most misunderstood term in the world. What is the meaning of faith, how does one have faith, how does one prove one’s faith? We will try to answer these questions in this study.

We will prove that there is no such thing as ‘blind faith’. Faith is not blind, and it is not deaf. Faith sees, faith is intelligent, faith is rational, faith is logical, faith is scientific, and having faith is wisdom.

There is no such thing as blind faith.
Absolutely correct,
Only that, most people with faith are currently ignorant of what faith is all about
Christianity Etc › Re: CHRISTIANS ONLY: Spiritual Explanation Need by paxonel(m): 12:08pm On Jul 03, 2017
GoodMuyis:
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same old story, old song like parrot.

But hahn still think your comment is still useful for the below
Obviously, you need a psychiatrist grin
It's people like you that are causing non christians to castigate Jesus Christ and Christianity and you are saying they are persecuting the church
Christianity Etc › Re: CHRISTIANS ONLY: Spiritual Explanation Need by paxonel(m):
GoodMuyis:
You dont need to display your folly here at least you should have read the headline before you comment,OR pretend as if you did not see the topic.

If you have problem with the Topic I cant help you


PrecisionFx same goes for as above, But watching the video below will help you a lil bit, Science is not all about Disproving God existence


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsDYBSQWdoo

If you cant watch Download its less than 5mb with 3gp option

http://ssyoutube.com/watch?v=NZbQBajYnEc
Do not come up with all these crabs to beg the question, I have seen the topic and I am in line with it.
i did not ask the question to disprove the existence of God. grin
Simple question!
How does speaking in tongues help the speaker and humanity in this modern day where technology have been helping people?
Why will you so stress yourself killing yourself to hunger, yet nobody is benefiting?
No answer!
I expected you to sincerely say i don't know why, perhaps you were brainwashed by some church beliefs.
Rather, you are begging the question by bringing a video to prove the existence of God which i never disputed
Na wa o grin grin
Let me say this,
There has never been a time in the history of mankind that a man spoke in tongues and it invoked the help of God.
We are the ones to use our brain and effort to help ourselves and others. So, all your speaking in tongues to weakness and collapsing are mere spiritual exercises which can never be translated to the physical and you are seen to be a lunatic person except you interprete what you are saving and there is positive impact grin
Christianity Etc › Re: CHRISTIANS ONLY: Spiritual Explanation Need by paxonel(m): 1:56pm On Jul 01, 2017
GoodMuyis:
Sometimes During my Prayer time (in tongues), I do have some unusual experience, doesnt happen always. And I will like to know whats going on.
After i must have prayed for sometimes, a moment will come when i will felt some kind of weight on my body, in which i do feel in body and in voice. Usally,when praying (with tongue) I do sound like a teenage speaking arabic, but after the strange moment, my voice becomes more deep as if the speech is coming by force out of my mouth. That doesnt stop me from praying though, I still continue till I had enough. But what is strange to me is after such moment I do felt exhausted, even till next day.

Initially I do think am hungry so I eat and drink (even sugary stuff) grin but still remain the same. Am aware that talking can get you exhausted and am a computer instructor who talks a lot, and drinking water will do, but this is different.

Can anyone relate to that, is it something I should allow or be careful of - Thanks

CC: Analice107, Bennyann, Gombs Flexiomor

==Modified==
I missed out some detail or used, coz I was in haste
1=> When I said weight, its not that am being pressed down, I mean feeling like my small body is being occupied by something big
2=> About my Voice, am not talking about being force or compel to talk, its feel like you are pushing a car and talking. And I wanted to pulse and continue its possible
After praying in tongues in this modern day(because you forget that bible days was ancient times, and at the time of ignorance of men God overlooked) what are your justification and benefits today?
A lot of scientists and analysts of success have done their researches and have invented technology and written books which have help other people to succeed in life, They are not ignorant again.
How is speaking in tongues now help other people and yourself?
Phones › Re: Android 6.0 Permission Demanding Problems by paxonel(op):
brighttech95:
just go to App Store and install button ulocker
Thanks
Christianity Etc › Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by paxonel(m): 9:34am On Jun 25, 2017
Sexina851:
Jw, no common sense
grin this not Jw.
let me ask you these questions,
do we Nigerians have common sense compared to europians?
Yes or no.
IsChristianity originated here in Nigeria?
If the answers to these questions are no, then Nigerians should start crying and mourning because, these foreign religions(Christianity and Islam) we have adopted to teach us moral values have holy books that is beyond our capacity to understand, Hence, we remain fantastically corrupt nations.
You see now, you are not even understanding anything in my post that's why it is JW and non sense to you. grin grin
we all understand that JW are confused people, but white men can never be confused.
I got this from their bible study and they are very very correct.
Or prove me wrong anywhere grin grin
Nigerians, we mumu die
Na primitivity be our problem
Nor be any witchcraft
Phones › Re: Android 6.0 Permission Demanding Problems by paxonel(op): 6:56am On Jun 25, 2017
Nbote:
Lol... Most tym its d screen overlay issue dat kips coming up.. Jus exit d app dats asking for overlay permission, go to settings and locate running services under developer options.. Simply close some of apps DAT are running and den go back and open d app asking for permissions again...
Yes, it's screen overlay.
Thanks for your response
Christianity Etc › Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by paxonel(m): 6:48am On Jun 25, 2017
luvmijeje:
As I earlier said, I'm happy you're an entertainer. Please strictly face your entertainment Bussiness. Don't venture into church business o.
Ofcourse i will not grin
Obviously i will be killed the way Jesus was killed.
Others are thriving well as pastors and are making so much money because, they are preaching what people want to hear, not necessarily following every steps of the scripture meticulously to arrive at a logical conclusion. Hence, the economic and social sphere in Africa keeps deteriorating. They are shouting change change but nobody is ready to accept new principles and way of life th ;Dat will change the current mindset of the people.
So, I'm so much satisfied seeing nothing is affecting me negatively grin
Christianity Etc › Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by paxonel(m): 4:40pm On Jun 24, 2017
luvmijeje:
I still have a lot of questions. You said Few people among his disciples saw him after he resurrected. Therefore, the saying that few people will enter the kingdom of God has come to pass

1. The Bible verse you're trying to quote is Many are called but few are choosen. But Jesus said all the tribes of the earth will see him coming. So where was it quoted in the Bible that Jesus called many after he resurrected but it's only few that responded?

2. The disciples were the only people that saw him, does that mean it will be only the disciples that will enter the kingdom of God?

You also said that few christians has grown to what is known as the biggest religion today, after 2000 years.
Now,google it!
What religion of the world has the highest adherents?
Now doubt, Christianity!
Hence,the parable of the mustard seed has come to pass.right now, all tribes of the earth are mourning.

3. But Jesus said His elect will be gathered together, have Christians gathered together?

4. But you said few will be choosen, but we are having billions and billions of Christians?

You also said, when Jesus was saying all tribes of the earth shall see him, he literally and prophetically meant all tribes of the earth shall hear about Christianity, today very few nations have not heard about Christianity.

5. But Jesus, He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. You didn't address this question o.
1. Exactly, that is the scripture! Many were called to follow him to Jerusalem where he will be crucified, hence there were about 5000 disciples who followed him, who eat bread and fishes he provided miraculously on their way to Jerusalem, But the moment they got to Jerusalem and he was about to be crucified they all ran away, even Peter who promised his royalty to death denied him 3 times. but at the end few disciples were chosen among the crowd. These are the disciples who saw him after his resurrection and they were just 120 out of the over 5000 who followed his on their way to Jerusalem. So Jesus never called many after his resurrection rather he called many before his crucifixion. But before he was crucified, he prophesied using parables that the few people representing Christianity after his resurrection will grow, nobody understood what he was saying until he died and resurected.
Luke 13:18-19 Then said he, Unto what is the kingdom of God(Christianity) like? and whereunto shall I resemble it(Christianity)?
It(Christianity) is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man(Jesus himself because he founded Christianity) took, and cast into his garden(this earth); and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the fowls of the air(people of all nations) lodged in the branches of it(Christianity).
This was his prophecy, they never understood.
2. It's not that the disciples will enter the kingdom tomorrow, they have already entered the kingdom of God Since 2000 years ago, few of them, and we are already in that kingdom which is Christianity. Think you will understand grin
3.He used the word gather together as if he was saying parable, gather was a figurative statement which means collection of chrisrians worldwide, not necessarily gathering.
4.Yes, I explained that in question 1,many disciples were called to follow him before the crucifixion but after the crucifixion few of them were able to make it into the kingdom hence few were chosen. Today, that few have grown to billions of people.
Luke 13:23-24 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved?
And he said unto them,
Strive to enter in at the strait gate(the gate of Christianity where salvation lies which is the point of crucifixion at Jerusalem because,these people were never yet christians): for many,(among these disciples) I say unto you, will seek to enter(Christianity), and shall not be able.
Do you understand it now?
He was talking to his disciples at that time, not us this current day Christians, we are already in, we are far better than them.
5. Yes, and i said sound of the trumpet is like a parable in the context of that scripture which literally means to call or gather people into Christianity worldwide by preaching, not necessarily using trumpet.
Have you ever read another sound of the trumpet in 1 Corinthians 15:52?
That one is a different kind of call entirely in the context of that scripture.
Non of these sound of the trumpets was used to represent rapture as asserted by today christians.
I will suggest that in your spare time, go back and read the book of Matthew and take it down to revelation, it will help you have a full understanding what the whole new testament is all about grin

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