Christianity Etc › Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by paxonel(m): 6:36pm On May 05, 2017*. Modified: 6:58pm On May 05, 2017 |
Ishilove: This is what happens when you don't handle your foundation. This life is very deep and mysterious. Big lie!!! Life is very sweet and straight foward if you understand Bible and know your way early enough. Only ignorant people who run after church and pastors says life is mysterious. Unfortunately,89% Nigerian Christian are like th. No proper education, na diabolism, church prayer and babalawo them know That why life is still mysterious in Africa |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of Simple Faith In The Finished Work Of Christ. by paxonel(m): 5:54pm On May 05, 2017 |
Pchinak: Careful there, because it's left for you to "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling".Philippians 2:12 Lie, So, it is people like you that are compelling people to work Una die well Na suffer una take swear for una selves? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of Simple Faith In The Finished Work Of Christ. by paxonel(m): 5:52pm On May 05, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by paxonel(m): 5:49pm On May 05, 2017 |
bizme: It wasn't the Church service of today that made me decide. It was rather several pieces of disappointment and dashed expectations that forced me to make up my mind today.
Following my conversion years ago, I had spent a substantial part of my youthful life in the service of God. No amount of discouragement from my Dad and peers would slow me down in the pursuit of the love and service of God my Father. At a point I had approached my parents that I was considering opting for pastoral school instead of University admission. I had at the time been offered an admission into one of the leading federal universities in the country. Eventually my dad's voice of reason prevailed and I went to University. In University, I lived and conducted myself as a man whose singular hope and passion was the pursuit of God, roving from villages to villages every week, preaching and pastoring village churches. Away from the demands of my studentship.
But in the real world, the popular promise that God always has my back has been no more than a sale's man's quip which is often far from the reality on ground. I have asked fellow Christians questions, but they have failed to provide me with answers that don't refer me back to the usual call to patience and perseverance. If I do not enjoy God's promises in the time of my youth, what then is the point? What is the point in repetitively making the same requests for years without answer from God?
I consulted widely, reading books and studying other peoples' experiences and I have come to this conclusion: that I am on my own in this world. That God probably finished His part when He created me; that the entirety of my fate and experience will hereafter depend on me and my societal factors. That all the praying and singing and clapping in the church are no more than a desperate attempt for most of us to believe in a God who has got no better job than bailing us out of our miseries...
Well, it has been years now and He hasn't bailed me out. My life, the experiences of it, has not been any better than that of those who have refused to acknowledge God or to serve Him. Henceforth, I'm going to turn my time and attention to more product things than church attendance. My woman isn't going to like this, but I feel like a fraud sitting there in Church today and refusing to say the prayers since all those I had said these past years don't seem to have been answered.
This is no feast for atheists. I don't have enough faith to be one. This is simply my step of courage to step outside profitless religion into personal effort to take my own matters into my own hands. And you don't have to agree with my conclusions, if you look at it carefully you will realize that I have no obligation to live my life based on others' experiences. Just mine. Op, you have just taken the right decision. Quit going to church, its useless to Christ. Read your bible you will see that Jesus never build any building called church. But it will be most profitable to maintain your believe in Christ for your eternal life at the end of your life, not for solving your problems. If you want to solve your problems go and work and earn money. Church has never solved anybodys problem, rather, it is you that is running at lost if you keep going, while the pastors are the once enjoying |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of Simple Faith In The Finished Work Of Christ. by paxonel(m): 5:26pm On May 05, 2017 |
An2elect2: Most times people in reaction to legalistic law keeping Pharisaical Christians (who subtly deny the grace of God and seek to obtain righteousness through the law thereby denying the finished work of Christ on the cross.) make phrases like this: THE CHRISTIAN LIFE IS SIMPLE. CHRIST HAS ACCOMPLISHED EVERYTHING. THE ONLY THING IS SIMPLE FAITH IN THE FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST. Wheew! Now what's wrong with this? Isn't this what salvation is about?
Yes there isn't anything wrong with Faith in Christ and His finished work. After all we are saved by grace through faith. We are justified by faith. We live by faith etc However there is a big difference between SIMPLE FAITH and SAVING FAITH. and you guessed right, it's SAVING FAITH the Bible is talking of!
Saving faith is simply a faith that is authored by God, comes from God and is perfected by God. It is a faith that conforms us to Christ and through it we learn obedience. This saving faith is not inborn i.e It isn't natural. It does not come by mental persuasion but by (spirit) hearing of the word of God. It is a gift GIVEN WHEN THE MAN IS NOT SEARCHING. We can't prompt God for it. It happens "out of the blue". An unexpected quickening.
Can someone believe in the finished work of Christ and still not be saved? POSSIBLE. There are many with such faith but have no experience of the new life. They walk about trusting in their faith in the finished work ~~faith in faith~~ (*shudders*) It is because of such, that many legalistic law keeping Christians question Christ's grace.
A man says he believes in the finished work of Christ and he believes salvation is by grace. But this man has not the substance of the hope he professes. There was never a time he saw how sinful he was, mourned over his sins and had a changed mind and will. This man has never been brought to his knees before a Holy God.
Deception is very real. And if any man thinks he is above deception, he has not known anything. That's why we are to prayerfully examine ourselves in the light of the scriptures. Salvation isn't something you "decide to have" Faith isn't something you can will.
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1
Op, where in the scripture is it written that someone can believe in the finished work of christ, yet he is still not saved. Contrary, the bible affirmed that whosever believe is saved automatically. John 3:16 |
Investment › Re: MMM Nigeria’s Members Get Paid For Mavros-2016 by paxonel(m): 4:13pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
lowkey28: chill bro. is it 2weeks yet Has anyone collected his 2016 macro? |
Investment › Re: deleted by paxonel(m): 4:51pm On Feb 20, 2017 |
knostbrown01: 5k and got 39k including part of my 2016 mavro are you sure |
Investment › Re: deleted by paxonel(m): 2:24pm On Jan 25, 2017 |
nellyquash: I can now access my mavro but can not get help don't know what the problem is.
Please any idea? did anybody pH this January with little amount and get help? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Set Free While Church Put People In Boundage by paxonel(op): 6:33pm On Jan 13, 2017 |
Anas09: You come open thread wey u no fit run? Noisemakers. I dey run the thread well, quiet maker |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Set Free While Church Put People In Boundage by paxonel(op): 7:18pm On Jan 05, 2017 |
Anas09: You are sooo lost. no, nigerians are currently lost in religion and tradition, partly the cause of the current recession in the country. everybody"s mind is full of one fear of juju or witchcraft as a result of churches teaching that witchcrafts or juju or whatever has the power to bewitch people,therefore lets pray pray till they die, but the bible did not teach that.white men know this. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Set Free While Church Put People In Boundage by paxonel(op): 7:09pm On Jan 05, 2017 |
Anas09: Why do you believe that Church is religion? check the definition of religion in dictionary |
Christianity Etc › All Pastors Prophesied That 2016 Going To Be A Great Year by paxonel(op): 8:52am On Jan 01, 2017 |
I keep marveled at nigerians, they forget that 2015 /2016 cross over night was filled with wonderful prophesies by all the pastors, that 2016 was going to be a year of good this and good that, unknown to them, it was a year of full blown economic recession and increase poverty. No prophecy rightly mentioned economic recession, not even that of the likes of ADEBOYE, OYEDEPO, KUMUYI, OYAKS etc. Yet, nigerians are still making the same mistake listening to these same men last night, prophesying. Una die well.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Set Free While Church Put People In Boundage by paxonel(op): 8:18am On Jan 01, 2017 |
MYJIST: that means you didn't understand the reason why you were there... most likely.... you were trying to prove a point... or be noticed Exactly! Just like every other christians are currently doing and, they cannot possibly enjoy themselves like that |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Set Free While Church Put People In Boundage by paxonel(op): 3:12pm On Dec 30, 2016 |
Ken4Christ: Deep within, you know the truth. You are just trying to be silly. Easy life is sweet but it leads to destruction. Receive Jesus into your life as your Lord and personal Saviour and deliver yourself from the coming wrath of God. "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?". (Revelation 6:17). it only lead to destruction when one is desperate but if you follow morals and principles you will truly enjoy this life. now go get yourself enjoyed and stop deceiving yourself with this wrath of God thing. God n or dey vex say you dey enjoy |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Set Free While Church Put People In Boundage by paxonel(op): 2:57pm On Dec 30, 2016 |
MYJIST: well don't be so conclusive.. I have enough premises to prove that they are not enjoying. i have been like that before |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Set Free While Church Put People In Boundage by paxonel(op): 3:46pm On Dec 28, 2016 |
MYJIST: don't be surprised that people engaged in this activities you call bondage are happily enjoying their service.. they are not enoying anything |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Set Free While Church Put People In Boundage by paxonel(op): 8:50pm On Dec 25, 2016 |
Koleman: Op replace church with religion Church is religion, we all know that. But christ is not religion. Thats why the best place to be this christmas is bear palour But drink responsibly |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Set Free While Church Put People In Boundage by paxonel(op): 8:48pm On Dec 25, 2016 |
MYJIST: nah... not that ... not me... I'm not for my pastor... it transcends far beyond that reality.. it's all about God!!! Ok |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Set Free While Church Put People In Boundage by paxonel(op): 8:36pm On Dec 25, 2016 |
 HARDDON: Sometimes i just wonder what some people use to think !: their bum or brains! Mteeeeeeeeew
See this one.
lol |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Set Free While Church Put People In Boundage by paxonel(op): 8:30pm On Dec 25, 2016 |
MYJIST: hmmm.... all the best to you Lie
You are not wishing me any best deep inside.
Why should i mention your pastor |
Christianity Etc › Jesus Set Free While Church Put People In Boundage by paxonel(op): 8:18pm On Dec 25, 2016 |
.. whoever believe should not perish but have everlasting. But churches are saying to believe only cannot save you. In addition to your believe you must repent of sin. Example :kumuyi and adeboye, etc Now, the question is, has anybody repented? The answer is no. All have sinned(including kumuyi and adeboye) ...... Says the bible. Also, religion (all churches) compelled people to be commited to church services and ordinances, making them pay so much and enrich pastors even at recession. My advice is.... FLEEEE!!!!! Go and enjoy your life Life is sweet out there |
Christianity Etc › Re: 12 Reasons You Need To Give Your Life To Christ Today! by paxonel(m): 7:49pm On Dec 25, 2016 |
Please enjoy your life. Life is sweet. Don't mind op and all these religjous people. They will go and enjoy their lives after they will come here and shout, give your life to christ |
Investment › Re: deleted by paxonel(m): 11:19am On Dec 12, 2016 |
RealityShot: Most people gh on Tuesday or Thursday that's why you get PH matches on those days... But some novice can gh on Saturday and the then you will be matched on Saturday.. Lol Matching occurs whenever there are gh orders.. WHENEVER thanks |
Investment › Re: deleted by paxonel(m): 1:47pm On Dec 02, 2016 |
please i want to ask, has anybody been matched to pay in days of the week other than tuesdays and thursdays? or can they match people to pay during weekends? |
Investment › Re: deleted by paxonel(m): 9:29am On Nov 23, 2016 |
fellis: No oo.
Go to the chat box in the top part of that box with the name of the guy that is supposed to pay you. Write a message to him telling him to pay immediately or you will report him for uploading fake proof. This is to ensure that the system has evidence that 1. He uploaded fake proof 2. You drew his attention to the fact that he hadn't paid.
Next, you go to your bank tomorrow and get stamped and signed statement of account. Keep it with you. After 48hrs if he hasn't paid, upload it to that same chat box but this time address your complaint to CRO.
I had this problem before, the idiot uploaded fake pop but I reported him and showed my bank statement to CRO to prove he hasn't paid and he was blocked at once.
If you know what to do, Mnm is easy to work with. I have made more than a million from it. Thanks He eventually paid the money and the issue is resolved |
Investment › Re: deleted by paxonel(m): 4:22pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
knostbrown01: yeah but reversing your time now.... after 48hrs the money would be confirmed payed That means,the system will automatically confirm him(not me) after 48hrs , even when i have not received the alert? |
Investment › Re: deleted by paxonel(m): 12:52pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
chamzyc: Please someone was supposed to pay me since Tuesday and the person didn't make the payment, not until it was 2hrs for his time to elapse and he uploaded a fake screenshot to stop the time. I have tried calling him but it seems the number he uploaded has not been in use for a while or blocked. What should I do? Has the person payed you now? Or were you matched with a new person to pay you? |
Investment › Re: deleted by paxonel(m): 12:19pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
loosecanon50: MMM makes it clear that u should PH with spare money (money that is readily available), not money that is on expectation. Remember that there are usually no certainties, ppl may fail to pay and that may put a big hole ur plan.
Well, in order to answer ur question, yes if the participant does not fulfil his pledge after 48hrs, he will be blocked and another person will be assigned to u immediately, being monday or even tmrw being sunday. That will in no way affect the other Ph, its a seperate request on its own.
But in case of next time, dont play such games, always ph with what u have at hand not what u r expecting as proceeds from ur last ph, else u may complicate ur formular someday and be choked.
Peace Thanks! I just noticed that the guy uploaded a fake teller to stop the count or to extend his time till Monday. He called me and promise that he will pay the money on Monday. What he did, is it possible that it will extend his time? |
Investment › Re: deleted by paxonel(m): 6:04pm On Nov 12, 2016 |
loosecanon50: MMM makes it clear that u should PH with spare money (money that is readily available), not money that is on expectation. Remember that there is usually not certainty, ppl may fail to pay and that may scatter ur plan.
Well, in order to answer ur question, yes if the participant does not fulfil his pledge after 48hrs, he will be blocked and another person will be assigned to u immediately, being monday or even tmrw being sunday. That will in no way affect the other Ph, its a seperate request on its own. Thanks! I just noticed that the guy uploaded a fake teller to stop the count or to extend his time till Monday. He called me and promise that he will pay the money on Monday. What he did, is it possible that it will extend his time?
But in case of next time, dont play such games, always ph with what u have at hand not what u r expecting as proceeds from ur last ph, else u may complicate ur formular someday and be choked.
Peace |
Investment › Re: deleted by paxonel(m): 12:32pm On Nov 12, 2016 |
I was matched to be payed this wednesday and the person who was to pay me called at the end of his 48 hours on friday night only to tell me that the money is not ready.please i want to know,when will i be matched with a new person who will pay me?. Also i have already pledge for last week which is to due on tuesday this coming week(two weeks after the pledge) so that i will be matched with someone to pay him. Now If i'm to be matched again on monday next week,to replace the guy who failed to pay me this week, will that in anyway affect my matching with the person who i am to pay this coming tuesday? Because the money from my new match is what i intended using to pay for tuesday |
Investment › Re: deleted by paxonel(m): 5:37pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Boo3nity: Does MMM pay tax? How dare you say an organisation that evades tax in its host country is trustworthy? How do you seek redress on issues bothering on MMM activities as its stakeholder? And you have the guts to say say MMM is not scam? #bloodfire You know,nigerians na big mumu o. So, because you dey collect one small peanut as help u won invest ur life? U don die!!! Nor get sense run first. For me,i don collect mmm money enough I don run. I nor put 10 kobo again |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by paxonel(m): 6:35am On Sep 13, 2016 |
flexybobo: When God rejected Cain's sacrifice and accepted that of Abel, it was actually a torment for Cain. Just like Cain killed Abel, christians were persecuted and killed by the Jews. @paxonel, you have a point, i understand were you are driving at do you see that? thanks! |