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Maguire and Cucurella Good combination |
Well, not all biblical stories were actually myths in the real sense. Some were natural phenomena that were presented as myrhs for a lay man to understand. Example is creationism |
Sand2022:Yes! Jehovah witnesses are terribly wrong by teaching themselves that Babylon the great implies religious groups other than their own Jehovah witness. It shows how myopic and deceptive the organization can be to them who are taking such teachings seriously. But however, if you understand the visions of Daniel in relation to revelations of John, you will have a critical explanation why Babylon the great is written in the book of revelation. Babylon the great refers to the idolatory practiced by that great ancient city called Babylon right from the old testament era of Daniel, Michaic and Abednego and perhaps even up to the era Jesus was crucified and there was on-set of Christianity. At that time, few people practiced Christianity and were persecuted by a vast majority of people practicing idolatry from the great city called Babylonian. Also, notice that practicing idolatry at that time was like practicing a religion. And Christianity was another new religion that had started springing up with few adherents. Not just only the idolarerers percecuted Christians, even the Jews who practiced Judaism had also persecute Christians. So, persecution was a spiritual battle mentioned by Daniel's prophecies which also reflected in the book of revelation as Babylon the great With this, Jehovah witnesses are only putting themselves into deception, not having a clue of what they are teaching |
ibis:SCAM! |
Whalis:Now, that your conscientiously contributions, though you did them in good fate, but they have gradually transferred it from their responsibility to your responsibility,it's a thing of the mind though. And now, they want you to start taking absolute control, whether you are ready or not. |
Whalis:were you contributing financially to the church such that, you were noticed as a high income earner? |
THE ONLY THING THAT CAN HINDER YOUR PRAYER IS IGNORANCE. THE MOMENT YOU KNOW, YOUR PRAYER IS ANSWERED LIKE THAT. EDUCATION IS THE ANSWER AND NOTHING MORE. EVERYONE NEED SCHOOL, WHETHER FORMAL OR INFORMAL |
Dtruthspeaker:what's this? .Off Point!you know it's the truth, you are busted on this Your opinion can't change the fact that they will remain church 4 years from now and there is nothing you can do. So relax jo ![]() |
Dtruthspeaker:no! God nor tell you anything! Na you won decide for yourself say these people must go to hell simply because they are doing wrong, and that isn't realistic. If you are doubting me, wait the next 3 or 4 years from now. We will visit these same churches matter again, you will always see that these churches will be waxed strong with more people becoming their member under the tattooed or dreadlocked pastor leadership. This tells you that God is still backing them no matter what you think about them. Infact, there are many pastors in Nigeria who have suffered controversial scandals in the past that were even more than tattoo or dreadlocks, their churches are still very strong today. Nobody went to hell. Trouble ke |
Dtruthspeaker:come throw them put for hell now, make we see ![]() Is it ya church? Is it ya God? |
Dtruthspeaker:by the way, is there any church in Nigeria that do not have atom of weed smoking? Mention it lets see! Is it that one that all their members do shake their heads and hold their waste in unism saying one thing for hours? Or is it the white garments that sometimes make cyclic movment's calling HOLY MICHAEL in a position like flock of fowls suffering from Newcastle desease? Or is it the ones tyeing banners on streets with loud speakers and some walking bare foots Or the ones being told 6 people should come out to donate one million each, followed by 10 people to donate five hundred thousand, and another 18 people fifty thousand each, then eventually everyone should have something to donate. and the rest of the church will come out with atleast, their hundred naira, five hundred naira, fifty naira, and even their android phones and i phones? Any way people ought to know that those places are not churches of God but event centres.that is your own opinion! As far as they are concern ,it is their church. God has ordained the church no matter what you think they do. It is between them and God, not you. So your opinion holds no water ![]() |
AntiChristian:you mean, religion is only reserved to condemn offences related to cultures while ethics are reserved to the real world? If that is the case, what is the essence of religion to the society that is consist of the real world? But contrary your cultures and traditions, this is what Jesus teaches Matthew 15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread(just like church traditions or religions forbidding tattoo and dreadlocks). Matthew 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? Matthew 15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother(Ethics): and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. I wonder how you guys who profess to have the holy spirit communicate like toddlers!well, real toddlers are the ones finding it difficult to distinguish between ethical laws and traditional laws and to decide, which one of the two laws should be upholded first on a situation where they clash Child trafficking would be in crime section not here!really? So assuming a news is carried that a popular pastor trafficks a child. Then it should not be condemned or discussed here on religious section? Others can be in politics or other sections!there are cases where pastors and Imams were outspoken against the excesses of some politicians, so that shouldn't be the case? Only politicians should condenm politicians, is that what you are saying? And your claim that God only looks the heart not the outward appearance is false!that's not what i said! I said that the church do not consist of anything physical. Rather, the church is the spirit in us. John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her,Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Mountain was a physical place of worship. The church shouldn't be seen as such The same thing applies to the man on dreadlocks or tatoo. His dreadlocks or tattoo has nothing to do with the church. If there are any consequences or punishment from God for keeping dreadlocks or tatoo, let him alone face it. He is entitled to it By their fruit you shall know them. A good fruit will produce a good tree and you'll see the manifestation of that tree as good!yeh! ![]() You know, the African cultural mind-set looks very good in you ![]() Look, i think there are good African cultures we should imbibe. But certainly, not this one the op has presented here . PFN and CAN in trouble ke ' over what? Tatoo and dreadlocks! He must be a joke ![]() |
Wetin concern PFN concern CAN for unserious things like Tatoo and dreadlocks sef And when are you Nigerians going to realize that the church do not consist of anything physical like the human body, tatoo, dreadlocks, congregation, church building and it altar, etc? Rather, the church is the spirit in you, therefore whatever physical ordinances, doctrines or beliefs you chose to practice, you are entitled to it and you will be held held responsible only if such beliefs, doctrines, ordinances goes against the law? For this ignorance, you will always find yourselves dedicating your quality time condemning what is not important. Meanwhile, the number of out-of-school children is becoming alarming, you will not condemn that one. Inadequate governmental policies on food production, job insecurity and poverty alleviation is there, you will not condemn that one. Yahoo Yahoo or internet fraud rate is surging among young people, you will not condemn that one. Illegal migration and child trafficking is common among you, you will not condemn that. Omo! wetin do us like this as a people? ![]() |
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MaxInDHouse:freedom of expression, yes! But definitely, not in every aspect. You can't go about stepping on other people's toes simply because you have freedom of expression. There are laws guiding everyone on this. Only that, third-world countries like those in Africa do not adequately enforce these laws and there are lawlessness in their societies, hence the question you asked earlier, "Can the actions of others around you cause a negative impact on your very existence" ? so you can't expect any society to be DOMINATED by people who wants to change their own mindset because it's a thing of PERSONAL decision not what could be imposed on others around you.Wrong! Go to developed nations in Europe, America ,UAE and Australia etc, sanity was imposed in their societies by virtue of enforcing laws, a long time ago. That's why these nations have more than 90% rate of literacy among their population, hence they are developed today. Now,, in your watchtower so-called organized group. You can't prove that you have anything different from otherwise. Like any other religious group you still have unlearned people among you, though it's normal. So, one may ask, what is really organize about the group that other religious groups do not have? Absolutely nothing! What we have today is produced by the families around us so if you want to trust the families to do this job then i'm sorry there can never be a peace loving environment because most families just wish their son or daughter gets rich at all cost.True! That is only because our society is still an evolving society in terms of literacy. Infact, most of our parents and grandparents who thought us did so to the best of their traditional knowledge without real formal education. But that wasn't the case in most developed nations And that is what i'm telling you right now that an organized people are working round the globe to help honest hearted and sincere individuals to make the needed changes.every other religious groups are doing the same as well. But that wasn't the way ideal societies were actualized. It was the effort of parents and grandparents of these societies that encouraged formal and informal education of their wards who later grow up to become political leaders, socialists and capitslists who influenced a better society through development and enforcement of effective laws and constitution |
MaxInDHouse:are there any society anywhere dominated by such organized people? What country or state is that, is it the kingdom hall or watchtower society or state or country? mention it let's see if they have achieved a better society for themselves so far. Do you think such an organization is rendering a humanitarian service to our world today or you will condemn their service all together due to some of their members still going through a rehabilitation process in their midst?there is no amount of humanitarian service that can replace the roles of the family and child upbringing towards a better society |
MaxInDHouse:I'm afraid, they can cause a negative impact on your very existence and there is nothing anyone can do about that. The solution to it will depend on how the society breeds individuals with better mind-sets. The more of such people we have in our society the better |
Saying God do not exist is like saying, you do not exist. Because you are actually the evidence of God's existence simply because you have faith in him. Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. When Christ was crucified, you were crucified with him, probably you were actually there at the point of his crucifixion, and you are still living till today though you had died several times. And you will continue to live in that manner forever and ever. Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. Mark the statement CHRIST LIVETH IN ME God lives in you., Your body is his temple. You don't need any other temple but your body. You don't need any other prophet but you and God. You are the prophet for yourself. If that is so, why then most times do we find ourselves running after pastors? It happens because we are ignorant of this fact. The day we know, that will just make the difference, from that point we will become fulfilled believers. Your success in your career and ambition is absolutely dependent on you looking inwardly and remain focus on doing what you know how to do best. |
TenQ:in the real sense, do we have any Muslim around today that is drinking pee? Over 96% of them must have boycott the idea since |
preciousee17:is there any English version for this scripture? Please post the scripture here, let's see. It's an extensive Word, not limited to consciousness.you are absolutely right! Only that, resurrection at that time before Christ was for the privilege of some few Israelites, and the gentiles were not included Infact, the Pharisees believed in resurrection of the dead before Jesus came.very true, you are correct Did you notice that the Scriptures stressed that it is the body that will be changed? Not the Soul.perfect I've already said that this Scripture was referring to sin.sin? Where? That when we come to Christ, our previous lifestyle of sin are ignored and we are starting all afresh.it is not limited to that. It goes beyond even after we have died. A new life and a new body is given us to live on. Therefore we have abundant life which is eternal “So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, that person is a new creation: The old has gone, the new is here!”ok Have you seen the buildup that led to that statement?yes, you are on point That scripture was all about repentance,No! Yes, there are other scriptures that emphasizes repentance but certainly, not this one. Right from verse 1 of that chapter 5 down to verse 17,nothing like repentance was mentioned. It was strictly the new creation through the death and resurrection of Christ. Why bringing a new born baby (new body and soul) into a discussion that talks about new body only?Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and HER SEED; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. 1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in CHILDBEARING, if they continue in FAITH and charity and holiness with sobriety. And also, Revelation 12:5 And she brought forth A MAN CHILD, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. Can you make something out of these scriptures in relation to resurrection of the dead with a new body I've been trying to explain since? Well here are my questions, and my end of replies...]consider this scripture Luke 19:11 ...and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear. We keep thinking that heaven is far away from us, meanwhile heaven is here in the real sense. What you are implying is that life for us ends here in EarthRevelation 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and THE KINGS OF THE EARTH do bring their glory and honour into it.. The question is, if heaven was far away beyond the clouds,away from this earth, how then do the King of the earth bring their glory to it? And remember Jesus teaching his disciples to pray that let thy will be done on earth? Remember the first instruction God gave to Adam and Eve that they should replenish the earth? For this reason Christ died and resurrect to restore back the eternal life Adam and Eve lost. Certainly, our body will change on this earth when we resurrect And it will be through childbearing or being a new creature at birth. |
preciousee17:understand the meaning of the word MIND. According to Oxford dictionary it refers to the mental consciousness of the body in relation to the environment. That means it is part of the body and not part of the spirit. The mind is located in the brain, it is centre of consciousness. And when the body dies, the mind siezed to be conscious of anything. Compare that to the soul which is the total self of person(his body + his spirit) Since the mind is part of the body, the mind dies with the body, but the spirit lives on. If you're a Christian, check the story of Prophet Samuel whose Soul was summoned from the grave by Paul, and he still remembered things properly.well, i don't think that story applies to the new covenant in Christ where there is resurrection of the dead. 1 Corinthians 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? When you read 1 Corinthians 15 from 35 down, you will notice that we will be given new body when we resurrect as Christians. In the old testament that wasn't so because Christ has not been crucified at that time talkless of resurrection. So, it was possible then, that Samuel could remember since he wasn't given a new body neither was he resurrected. New body implies that old things have passed away. 2 Corinthians 5:17 Also make reference to the Transfiguration of Jesus on the mountain where He was found speaking to Moses and Elijah, people who had died for ages.still the same thing. They all happened before Christ was crucified and were the shadow of things to come, and not the real thing. These Moses and Elijah never saw resurrection, hence the least person in God's kingdom is greater than them. Any other Bible passage to uphold your point?they are everywhere in the new testament especially Jesus parables. This scripture, I think you need to explain to me how you understand it. Cos after reading above and below, especially verse 19, it is understood that according to the Paul, If anybody accepts to walk with Christ, to live for Christ, then that person's previous sins and other lifestyle has been forgotten (forgiven) and everything starts afresh for the person. All things become new.walking or living for Christ there implies believing in Christ for eternal life. John 3:16 And eternal life implies resurrection in the last day. Remember, 1 Corinthians 15 suggest that our body will be changed when we resurrect. So 2 Corinthians 5:17 saying old things are passed away : it is strictly saying that our old body will pass away the day we die. And we will resurrect with a new body thereby making us a new creature. Do you see a new born baby? He has no memory or experience whatsoever unlike Samuels memory after he had died. Now that is a new creature |
preciousee17:realizing with what mind, dead mind ? Please dead people don't realize anything. They know nothing anymore and can never be said to be deceived at that state of their death, just like a new born born baby can never be said to be deceived at that state of birth. 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. |
I can say that, the evolution is rather a very gradual process and we have a very long way to go especially in Africa, in terms of understanding what the church should stand for. Europian churches have made significant progress over the years and are very much stable. But Africans, due to our dogmatic traditions that have infused into our church teachings, we have made our churches stagnant, hence our society as well. Anyway, kudos to all the churches mentioned above by the op. They have played their roles towards a better evolving church in the future |
Good weekend |
onumadu:certainly, you will always have people in this primitive Africa that we are living who believes in myths. But that doesn't mean that myths are real stories. So anyone who tells you that he is gifted with descerning spirit. Such person will scam you your money, and you will be the cause |
onumadu:who is feeding you lies about the existence of the so called spirit husband or spirit wife myths or have you ever seen any such thing in the bible? Please resist from lies and avoid such people who are feeding you with these lies for your own mental health. If possible avoid the yeye church and look for a church that are more realistic in their teachings to attend. |
Triton1996:They should wait till after the investigation now. The ones that still have matric number will be finished out soon, nor be uniben again? Remember the lady that came online some time ago to say she blocked her way although to graduate, what happened to her at the end? These idiots don't want to learn their lesson. |
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Most times, Christians today look at Faith as one supernatural means to pray and achieve miracles or immediate solution to their problems. But that isn't the primary purpose. For us to understand why we have faith, there are three things to consider scripturally: 1. Without faith, it is impossible to please God . Hebrews 11:6 2. Faith is synonymous to religion and nothing more. For instance, the Jewish religion(the old covenant) made the Israelites to have zeal for God especially in the old testament. Romans 10:2 So the old covenant represents one religion or faith (Judaism) The new covenant represents another religion or faith (Christianity) So invariably, the first point is ssying WITHOUT RELIGION IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE GOD 3. Faith as any religion, is associated with cultures and traditions: what that means is that, various faiths or religions comes with various tribes and cultures. For instance, the Jewish tribes in the old testament was associated with the old covenant which was the faith Abraham their forefather had with God. Hence, Abraham was justified by his faith or religion. Romans 4:3 Similarly, the gentiles were associated with idolatry and that was their faiths or religions. Hence, according to the old testament God hates idolatry which was their religions. Little wonder we see Christians in Africa today after reading the bible, we tend to go against or destroy idolatry like ogun, orunmila, sango etc, and to seek God.(but we don't do that to Islam, and i wonder why?) Don't get me wrong, treat all religions equally, whether they are Islam or African traditional worshippers. Also, when you read the book of Daniel, after Nebuccadnezar had held the Israelites in captivity, there were gods or deities in Babylon that Daniel, Shadrack, Mishak and Abednego had refused to worship. Babylon was a culture or a kingdom that was associated with their own faith or religion which was also idolatry. So, when Nebuccadnezar saw the statue in his vision, each segments of that statue were made of different kind of materials such as bronze, silver, gold, brass, Iron and clay mixed to form the feet(Daniel 2:33).These segments of the statue represents various kingdoms or cultures with their religions that were to rule the world after Babylon is conquered. For instance, the Jewish society at the time Jesus was crucified was a mixture of cultures(Acts 2:5),which represents the mixture of iron and clay Nebuccadnezar saw at foot of the statue in his vision. The dominant culture of these cultures or traditions among the people were to impose their faiths or religions to the world which refers to people living in that region at that time, not necessarily the whole world. (reference to mark of the beast or 666.Revelation 19:19-20 or Babylon the great.Revelation 18:10-21) which these figures represents religions that dominated and persecuted Christians at that time(also known as the end time. Matthew24:1:2. Hence they were the Antichrists) at the time they dominated and rule world(the biblical region over 2000 years ago compared to our current era). These notable kingdoms were Israel and Babylon, The Median and Persian Empire(Daniel 5:28), the Greek, empire and The Roman Empire(the time of Christ's crucifixion and resurrection), including the Barbarian cultures that later conquered the long trending Roman empire at 15AD. (Historical account not included in the bible) Matthew 24:6 (Jesus talking to his disciples at mount olive) And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars (That is, wars among these empires) see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.(ie the crucifixion of Christ is not yet) HOW DOES FAITH APPLIES IN TODAY'S WORLD? Among the segments of the statue Nebuccadnezar saw, there was a stone that came out to struck all the other segments into pieces and grow to become a great mountain which will never be destroyed but last forever (Daniel 2:44-45) . This stone represents a Faith or religion(not necessarily any culture or tradition), and that religion is Christianity (which is the resurrection of Christ. Also check Jesus mustard seed parable .matthew 13:31-32. And compare that with the stone in Daniel 2:34-35). Daniel 2:35 Then was the iron(one religion or faith and it culture.eg The Jewish culture, religion and the Gracian empire), the clay(another religion and it culture.eg Roman empire), the brass,(another religion and it culture.eg Persian empire) the silver(another religion and it culture.eg Greek empire), and the gold(another religion. eg Babylon and the median empire)), broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone(Christianity or Jesus Christ) that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth. This vision of Nebuccadnezar has been fulfilled today. To confirm this, Google it, what religion currently on earth is the largest and see the answer for yourself. AND HERE LIES THE EVIDENCE OF THE EXISTENCE OF GOD ALMIGHTY WHO CANNOT BE SEEN, FOR THOSE THAT ARE STILL DOUBTING.(Hebrews 11:1) Daniel 4:3 How great are his signs! and how mighty are his wonders! his kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and his dominion is from generation to generation. Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Christianity is God's kingdom that has been fulfilled. It is the kingdom that Christ preached(mentioned in all his parables before he was crucified). All Christians ought to preach God's kingdom (but unfortunately, we end up preaching vain works instead of faith as the only basis of our salvation, confusing ourselves). Christianity is the only religion that deserves all tribes, cultures, traditions, people, races across the world.(Habakuk 2:14 prophesy) |
IconicR:she is not in the position to give any institution. All she would have done is to draw her mums attention to their mismanagement with evidences. Then let her mum handle the matter. |
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