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Ken4Christ:
Luke 18:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and IN TIME OF TEMPTATION FALL AWAY.

Jesus let us know that some believers can fall away in times of temptations.

no one is doubting this!
Only that it is usually very difficult to fall away only when one is grounded like i have said

Don't look for scriptures to support your preconceived opinion and ignore many others that are contrary.

the many others including the Luke 18:13 you quoted are not contrary to what i have said

And there are no scriptures in the bible that contradicts one another.

Luke 18:13 says when a Christian is not grounded in the faith, he can fall away
What i have said is when a Christian is grounded in the faith it is difficult for him to fall away.
I don't think that is difficult to understand

Ken4Christ:
Your defense is too long. You are just looking for ways to support your eternal security doctrine.

To depart from the faith means that they were once in the faith. So, please reexamine your doctrine before you lure so many into destruction.

What about the category of people the writer of Hebrews talked about. They were not only saved, they were filled with the Holy Spirit and even tasted of the power of the world to come. But he said, if such people fall away, it's difficult to restore them back to faith.

So, it means one can fall away at any level of maturity.

Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

This is why the scripture says that we should take heed, lest we fall.

It is extremely difficult for genuine Christians to fall away from the faith.

Now, consider trying to convince an extremely devoted Muslim to abandon Islam for another religion, that is how difficult to also convince a Christian to abandon his faith, especially those once that were born and brought up by Christian parents.
Some Christian's in their very hearts are deeply committed to Christ but they wount show it outrightly. It will be very difficult to even engage these kind of Christians into religious talk, talkless of getting them falling away.

This explains why Jesus said

John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Apus:
Acts 1:11 KJV
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

Your type would have even denied His ascension calling it a metaphor and not a reality.

I do not deny his ascension.
But his coming back in like manner those men of Galilee saw him ascending?
The two angels couldn't have start saying a thing like rapture which is out of context of all the events that happened at that moment.
What the two angels told them have been fulfilled already according to this scriptures

Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
Acts 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting

The coming of the Holy spirit is the like manner ascension of christ spoken by the two angels: and nothing more.
It was like those men of Galilee felt that christ has left them when they saw him ascending.
But the two angels assured them that he was going to come back in like manner to be with them as the holy spirit.
With that, they were encouraged to go back to Jerusalem to wait for the coming of the holy spirit.

Acts 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence

So, everything happened in that generation. And it happened as a complete package and a fulfilment of prophecy

Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Apus:
we live in the perilous times.

I soon discover that this statement is the height of delusion among Christians.
There is never a time in human history that was never perilous.
Humans have been struggling to survive from the on-set of time

keeping watch and ready for when He shall appear.

there is nothing to watch.

Christ never said he was going to appear!

If you have ever read in the bible that suggest Christ was going to appear, it was a metaphorical statement.

Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Please, this statement should not be taken for reality, It is metaphor.
It will take while for a brainwashed person to have a personal emancipation after understanding that the scripture is just a metaphor that is rightly or literally interpreted as THE POWER OR HIS RESURRECTION, not necessarily a cloud coming.

A better way to understand this thing is to look at it from this angle.
In Matthew 24, Before he was crucified, Christ was narrating the signs of his coming which was also signs of his death and resurrection to his disciples before the actual event happened in Matthew 25 and 26

Matthew 24:30 is one scripture that is responsible for the delusion in Christianity today.
And obviously, the delusion is credited to ancient orthodox theologians who wrongly interpreted the scripture

Where is the part that Vivian was traced and arrested for the offence she has done?
I thought she was Fred's secondary school classmate which means where she came from isn't a mystery, and most possibly she could be traced and get arrested?

Most cooked or fictional stories in Africa aimed at teaching morals are usually flawed with one mysterious part that is unresolved.

Dtruthspeaker:
Wow! See levels of delusion because you already know that you can never join the thief in Paradise.

No wonder like Satan you want to take people to hell fire.

you are always being troublesome jumping into people's threads as usual to start quoting people when no one cares about you.
I for one, if i see your mumu comments I don't give a damn, but you are the one always jumping to quote me.
Now i have responded, you are running helter skelter like an unstable confused soul begging my question and bringing fallacious ad hominem instead of answering the question.

You counter the op that one can loose his salvation simply because he is a sinner.
Now the same you is changing your position that a thief who is a sinner is saved in paradise.

Can't you see how contradictive you sound?

Only Satan says one thing and the next time he contradicts himself with another statement.

Whoever listens to you does that at his own peril.

So get lost
Don't ever quote me again o.

No sense!

Dtruthspeaker:
Out of Point.

Lies!
Answer the question

Even The Lord, was been killed or crucified along with him,

Then why are you jumping up and down confusing yourself?

The man was killed, period!

But as I said this is a deviation. End of Story !

you are trying to deviate from the truth by hiding under a spiritual paradise, but you can't.

Because that spiritual paradise is not the same as what happened in reality.

In reality, the man was killed for his sin, and christ did not forgive him.

You are big bunch of lair, confused an ignorant

Dtruthspeaker:
See madness o.

A guilty sinner got a direct clearance and visa from the judge to paradise where eternal life is and you ask whether he died?

was he crucified or killed yes or no?

Dtruthspeaker:
What else is "this day you shall be with me in paradise" mean? You are just scrambling for something to say to protect your delusions.

You shall be with me in paradise means he did not die because he was forgiven according to your confusion that christ has power to forgive sins?

You think you can dodge your errors and lies?
You are being checkmated here.

You better go back to primary school

Dtruthspeaker:
And my counter which you could not argue is that Christ is The Law as proven by His Power to forgive sins. Common sense would have told you that it is The Law who has power to forgive and waive a sin.

Firstly, Saying that Christ is the law shows that you have a huge inability to identify two different entities even when the bible affirms that Grace from christ and works of the law are two different entities.

Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Secondly, He has power to forgive sins.
So, why didn't Christ forgive the thief, a sinner that was crucified with him after he acknowledged him as the Christ?
Christ will just tell him, i have forgiven your sins. With this my power, i thereby discharge you and acquitted. You are free from being crucified with me.

Eh, explain yourself, why christ didn't say so to him since he has the power to forgive sins?

Some of you, you will quote bible out of misunderstanding thereby putting yourselves into delusion

As i said you are irredeemably deluded.

someone who is terribly deluded is saying another person is deluded to cover his ignorance

Jesus used a physical things to explain the spiritual e.g. vine and branches, the good shepherd and the sheep. It was obviously you he told that he used earthly things to explain the heavenly things yet you pretend not to get it. Man, you are finished.

And this is definitely for you

Revelation 22:11-12

He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: [b]and he which is filthy, let him be filthy ...

it does not change the fact that spiritual things are not the same as physical things as simile are not the same as metaphor

You are deeply suffering from text-reading identity crisis and will fail simple exams drawn from books, because you can't simply read to your understanding.

A ball can be used to illustrate the movement of a cat does not mean that a ball is the same thing as cat

There is no point flogging this issue back and forth with you anymore.
If you like keep believing in lies it's your own cup of tea

Dtruthspeaker:
You have always loved your delusions irredeemably and if only you confined your delusions to damned self, then I won't have to contend you

search yourself

Is Christ not The Way, The Life, The Word?

How does man live? Deuteronomy 8:3 has already answered you.

bad argument:

Our discussion here is difference between Christ and the law. Romans 11:6

What is then the correlation between man does not live by bread alone with what we are discussing here?

When a thing is washed, does it mean it cannot be dirtied again? No

Again, there is no correlation with what we are discussing to this.

What we are discussing is Christ and his salvation which is a spiritual thing.
You don't use physical events like dirts again after wash to do illustration with spiritual cleansing especially when it get to do with the death and resurrection of Christ.

Romans 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

You know, I choose to remove some of your irrelevant statements to get you focus on what we are discussing here, perhaps you were been carried away by dead works as usual.

The only way a washed thing remains clean is if it is not made dirty again.

you explain to me.
How is Christ made dirty again seeing that he lives in the spirit?
Or will you ascend to the spirit and bring him down to rubbed in the mud?

The way you people argue at times, you don't think before talking

Thus, anyone who returns to his formers sins or any sin eg drunkenness,covetousness, fornication,lying, stealing is dirty and they shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

you see yourself?

First, your illustrations are flawed.
Then you want to bring this to connect to your flawed illustrations to see whether it will match?

Keep trying your luck

Needless to remind you again, what are we discussing?
We are discussing Christ and his salvation

What has Christ and his salvation got to do with drunkenness, covertiousness, fornication and lying etc?

Absolutely nothing!

John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world:...

It is in this world that people practice drunkenness, covertiousness, fornication, lying, etc

And it is the laws of this world that judges these people, not Christ.

I wonder how it will be when a man is charged to court for his crime, and the judge says leave it for Christ to judge.

You are not being realistic.

You have to separate Christ from these things, they are not the same.

Christ's only judgement to man is, do you believe in him?
That's all.

Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life(which means,was not found believing in Christ) was cast into the lake of fire

Revelations even shows you that this is the standard of judgment in that even though The Lord may have washed and accepted you, He must not have any ought against you. E.g. the church in Pergamos in Revelation 2, who allowed and did fornication. which you say is washed.

14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication

you didn't see the word idols there, it is the word fornication that you choose to see, how then will you not be confused?

Now tell me, what kind of church do sacrifice idols together with fornication as it was practiced by unbelievers or idolaters of that time, is that church again?

Can't you see that they have already deviated from the faith into practicing idolatry that's why they were rebuked?

See He cleary stated who He wants here

4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

Meaning their garments were washed and that they were given clean garments and these made sure that it never got dirty (defiled) again.

yes!

On the bases that they deviated from the faith and nothing more.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Thus, you can see that what has been washed can be made dirty again unless the person ensures that he is not made dirty again.

I ask you the question again, what are we discussing here?

We are discussing Christ and his kingdom or salvation which has absolutely nothing to do with physical things like washing of dirty and mere human laws that help to check fornication, drunkenness, lying etc

Otherwise, our judges will hand over their cases for Christ to do the judgements himself

Deceive yourself no more!

it seems you have a very small brain to understand complex issues

Just get yourself emancipated from the grip religious doctrines for a start, may be that will help

Plus1234:
And so? Revelation 21 vs 8.But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Do you even understand the scripture at all?

You just carry scripture dey quote without understanding the insight.

Who are the fearful and the unbelieving ?
Do you think that there are Christians who don't believe in Christ?

What makes one a Christian
Is it not that he believes ?

John 3:16...whosever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

If you believe, you are not a woremonger.
If you believe you are not idolater.
If you believe, you are not a soccerer or lair

Before God, you are not classified into all these things.
Before God you were cleansed
You were justified
You were made righteous not by your works.

Tell me i have lied again

Dtruthspeaker:
And what things constitute a rejection of Christ?

nothing but rejection of Christ.

The law isn't Christ.
The law is the law, while Christ is Christ.
They are two different entity

Rejection or accepting the law does not constitute rejection or accepting Christ.

Is it the law you worship or Christ?
Choose one

Answer: 1 Corinthians 6:9-11,R Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? · Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor ...

And you didn't deem it fit to continue to verse 11 so that you will have proper understanding?

1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Since the scripture affirms that they were washed, sanctified, justified in the name of Jesus, can you now boldly say they are still thieves, nor covertous, nor drunkards anymore and that they will not inherit the kingdom of God ?

You don't have any such right to declare that.

Plus1234:
Lies. If you want to go to hell do so without taking people along with you. That was how a foolish pastor once said Ananias and Sapphira are both in heaven and said their body was destroyed for them to make heaven.This is a doctrine for the broad way,not the narrow way.

you have not quoted any scripture to prove your point.
Me, I have quoted John 3:6 to prove my point

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Therefore, you can't say I'm lying.
Rather, it is you who is trying to avoid scriptures to present your unrealistic traditional doctrines that have lied.

And you know what?
Many African Christians are gradually being educated and are coming out of your kind of traditional ignorance.
You many not see them
But they are there even in the church you attend.

They know the truth deep inside them.
Salvation is a free gift from God whether you like it or not

Kingsnairaland:
John 10:28-29 says: “And I give to them eternal life, and they shall by no means perish forever, and no one shall snatch them out of My hand. My Father…is greater than all, and no one can snatch them out of My Father's hand.




God is not a confused God

He knows the end from the start

You can't be saved in Jesus then become unsaved.

There is nothing your child can do that will make him not to be your child...

absolutely right!

It is share ignorance for a Christian to fear that he can lose his salvation by any means order than him rejecting Christ.

Such Christians(funny enough, constitutes the vast majority of the type Christians we have in Africa) can never be decisive in making critical decisions or standing for what is right too,and are such they are largely hypocritical, seeing that they are completely oblivion of the fact that their salvation is of spiritual significance that is only embedded in their spirit and not in their body or bodily actions

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

In essence, Flesh and Spirit do not have the same bearing.

And a better explanation of this is that forfeiture of our spirit(wherein our salvation lies) is never part of the consequences of our actions in the fresh

....And God says let there be light, and there was light.

If God is not love, we wouldn't have created light in the first place.

And there is no loving God that will wish the destruction of the light or the world he has created, only terrists wish that

Myer:
Yea, a lot of people were religious. It exposed the difference between religion and worship.
Covid delivered the church from being religious and worshipping out of fear.

1. It helped us really understand the difference between the church as a Building and the church as a People.
2. Some of tbose who had idolised the building have been delivered. Some haven't.
3. Some of those who idolised pastors were delivered from pastor and prophet worship. Some pastors didn't handle/conduct themselves properly while some did.
4. Some of those who idolised tithes were delivered from tithes worship. They realised all the curses didn't fall on them when they didn't pay tithes. In fact some churches advised their members not to pay tithes and take care of their families. While some churches made sure they enforced tithes paymel even if it meant exposing their members to the Covid. I choose not to mention names.
5. It showed the Power /Authority of the government over the church. Romans 13
7. It exposed churches that did not fear nor respect the government. Even though Jesus Christ respected the government and obeyed the laws as long as it didn't not cause him to sin. Not going to mention names either.
8. It helped so many churches who condemned online churches or were reluctant, to finally have no choice but explore and invest in online church and social media opportunities. This expanded the reach of the church. And some churches are the better for it today.
9. It helped some families who were not having family fellowship to develop the habit of praying and studying the bible together.

I believe in every disappoint, there's a blessing if we really pay attention and pray for God's counsel.

And you're right a lot of churches hac failed in their purpose and divested in competition among themselves. Churches were increasing while godliness was conversely reducing. In fact, sin was ironically multiplying. It was as if as Grace abounded, sin abounded much more. Clearly Nigerians had continued in sin as Paul feared and asked, shall we continue in sin that Grace may abound? God forbid!

Nigeria was boasting of the biggest churches in Africa and even the world yet among the most corrupt in the world. It made no sense.
But through it all, God was also building his church.
There were churches that remained true and didn't compromise.

All this was prophesied in thebbible. We are in the last days and the bible warned us that there will be many false teachers, false prophets and false doctrines.
The Bible also warned of the Great falling away (Apostasy) as many will be lovers of self, rebellious, etc.
The Bible also teaches that there will be a new church.
The Bible also said a lot of hints about the last days that have happened, for as many understand eschatology. There are things that happened and that are happening that I am not sure if I'm at liberty to share yet.

In 2018 before the outbreak of covid 19 , i noticed that Nigerians were too religious, so i set up this thread saying that nothing last forever.

https://www.nairaland.com/4914481/church-going-tithing-necessary#74007289

Our religious nature has not taken us to anywhere better.

As a matter of fact, there are no statistical indices to show that those who are more prayerful or engaged in spiritual battle of fire die by fire prayer intensivity for many years, or those who were more church active, or more babalawo or juju practicing, or more Islamic mosque conscious, are the most wealthiest or happiest Nigerians among the Nigerian population

You know, I have always encourage people to go to church so that they will understand the bible and their religion Christianity.
But unfortunately, church has failed in their responsibility to teach people the truth, thereby also exploiting ignorant church members to make wealth for themselves over the years.
So, I have also encouraged people to stop going the moment they notice exploitation.

But it was as if people felt that if they don't go to church regularly, their world will collapse rhereby giving the ecploiters the edge.

Now, since the on-set of the covid meltdown in 2019 till now, the economy has turn sore and biting harder.
Through adaptivity, most people have realized that if they don't go to church, nothing will happen, heaven will not break loose.

Now, the exploiters are becoming broke.
To continue managing their private jets and their exorbitant lifestyles are becoming more prayerful.

The lesson is, nothing last forever except God

Janosky:
Oga, there are medical treatment options available to choose from.
JWs avail themselves of these.

Please resist the urge to speak as if there is only a single form of medical treatment in our hospitals.

ok,

What if there were no other options will you continue to support the doctrine?

I don't think so

Why will someone refuses blood transfusion and will want to die because of some mere doctrinal befiefs postulated by another fellow human being who had lived and died years ago without understanding what he postulated ?

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
So this won't cause insults or abusive speeches, thanks for the open mindedness.

When God created Adam and Eve it was meant to fill the earth through happy (nuclear) families {Genesis 1:28} they weren't created to die for any reason unless they choose death themselves {Genesis 2:17} so when death came {Romans 5:12} each creature return to dust from which we were all created {Ecclesiastes 3:20} and the energy actuating our breathe returns to God who gave all creatures that active force in the beginning! Ecclesiastes 12:7 compare to Genesis 2:7

So how do generations keep coming?
It's through the reproduction process as each creature keep mating with it's kind! Genesis 1:24

Reincarnation is an idea gotten from pagan teachings as philosophers are deliberating on how generations upon generations are coming and going but they don't know where they are going to.

According to God's word it is appointed that man (who was created in God's image) is to die (ONCE) and after his death judgment will follow {Hebrews 9:27} the reason why humans will account for his actions is because we were created with the ability to reason and choose what is right unlike all other creatures and for the fact that God made us like demigods on this planet to bring in innovations that will make the planet more beautiful man wasn't created with an expired date all other creatures will die but not man.
So at death we have finished our journey and there is no longer any opportunity to return unless God found us worthy to come back {Job 14:13-15} and live forever when all badness is done away with! Psalms 37:9-11, 29
Jesus' sacrificial death has paid for Adamic sin so all faithful people throughout the earth has been given a day in which they will be called back to enjoy life forever in Paradise on Earth while those who don't give a damn about God will routine forever in their graves! Psalms 9:17

No one will be allowed to come back and pass through this stressful condition again once you have tasted it you're the one that will choose through your deeds that you want to live forever where only good people like you exists but if you join evildoers simply because they system has become so bad due to the deeds of bad ones then you're on the same road with them! Matthew 7:13-14

May you have PEACE!

ok

Atiku is on point!

Obviously, certificate forgery is the case.
And if that is the case, then only a corrupt minded person will want to defend it.

And i also notice that people that are defending this scandal will not focus on the issue, but fallaciously resolve to attacking the person of Atiku who is pushing the discovery.

Everyone have their right to say their mind when they notice that something isn't right

MaxInDHouse:
I have engaged you in the past and discovered that you don't like to engage JWs in scriptural discussions like this so i won't like to annoy you today.
REINCARNATION has nothing to do with God's word, if you promise me that this won't result to annoyance on your part i will share what the Bible teaches on that subject.
May you have PEACE!

annoyance? 😀

It is natural to have a differ opinion. So, if you see me opting out, it doesn't mean I'm annoyed.
It means that, there is nothing i can do to convince you. And certainly, it will take a sound reasoning for you to convince me. So, I'll rather allow you with your opinion and go with mine

MaxInDHouse:
Just amazed at the competency of a real Bible scholar on this forum.

So reincarnation is supported in God's word.

Wow!

accept it or leave it, reincarnation is real.

Romans 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

If we die as Christians, we believe that we will come back and live as Christians.

Come back by what means?

Through childbearing.

1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

And through childbearing, a new body will be given to us by birth.(New birth in Christ). At that point we will become a new creature.
Old things have passed away at our previous death in old age

1 Corinthians 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

That means we are coming back with a new body
.

In Nigeria, life happens to everyone by chance.
Only those who have the opportunity gets what they want

MaxInDHouse:

Explain your laff

It's true now,
You did not see it in the scripture i quoted?

lavivi:
Can Somebody Die and still Come back to earth again?

In my opinon, I truly believe that there is Re-incarnation.
Re-incarnation is the coming back of ones' spirit after Transition(physical death).
In Re-incarnation,[/b]former male body can take up a female body on new life.

However, Nobody knows/knew how many times he had been on earth as
this is could be your last chance of Re-incarnating;Do not be carried away that you may come back to life again, Live your life as if this is your last 'life Chance' for Salvation
Humans re not gifted to know their past life( Live in the present) Just as you may not recall your activities when you re in tender age.
One Earthlife is/may not be enough to experience or mature in spirit to enter the paradise.

[b]Re-incarnation is mention and suported in the bible (eg)
1. Malachi 4;5 (but before  the great day and terrible day,I will send you Elijah)
   compare Mattew 11 vs14 ( Jesus Christ said  ''John is
   Elijah whose coming was predicted'' J
2. Jesus did not deny Re-incarnation Matt 16 vs 13-19 : mark 8 27-28 ( when  he asked who do you think I am, ''some said you re prophet that come back to life = [Re-incarnation) When peter said '' you re de messiah'' Christ still did not say there is no Re-incarnation like when he rejected Marriage in heaven Mark 12 vs 18-27

                  Argument point
1. It's appointed unto man to die once after whic comes Judgement
    ( the Death mentioned is not physical death but Spirtual death, Lazarus and others that was raised of physical death,Transition or sleeping as Christ called it)
2. ''John the baptist denied that he was Elijah '' JOHN 1 vs 19- 23
  ( he denied because he is not permitted to his past life; but Christ knew when he said John the baptist is Elijah is to come)


          Readers please read & react without prejudice and biasness!

Re-carnation is scriptural, only that the term Re-carnation was never used in the bible, it is a recent term
But the term resurrection was used instead.

Read 1 Corinthians 15:35 down.
You will see how the bible described resurrection of the dead.

Our body will be changed.
A new body will be given to us to continue to live on.

This trend has no end, it is forever and ever.
John 3:16

There is a common saying among some African societies that life does not have duplicate. This idea is very useful to discourage people from embarking on risky attempts like jumping off a cliff or some suicide missions.

But as good as the statement, is it really true that life does not have duplicate?

John 10:10 ....I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it MORE ABUNDANTLY

So, in the real sense there are eternal and endless duplicates of life in abundance for those who believe in Christ.

It follows that, every duplicate of life given to you which is a free gift from God, deserves a better living.

I know that mumu conspiracy theosts were waiting for the unfortunate to happen in Israel, so that they will feed on the situation and start postulating their mumu theories of end time, Antichrist that does not have any relevance.

Over 700 irsaeli have died between yesterday morning and now, all they do is to take advantage of the situation to postulate rubbish theories

IS CHRISTIANITY ABOUT CHRISTIANS BEING PERSECUTED AND BEING DENYING THEMSELVES OF GOOD THINGS OF LIFE?

THE ANSWER IS NO!

RATHER, CHRISTIANITY IS ABOUT SALVATION.

IF YOU WANT PERSECUTION OR SELF DENIAL AS A CHRISTIAN WHY NOT JUST SIMPLY RELOCATE TO PALESTINE OR NORTHERN KADUNA AND STOP SAYING WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW?

The moment i saw 1914, I stop reading.

what is 1914 ?