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Christianity Etc › Signs Of The End Time by paxonel(op): 7:28am On Jul 23, 2023

Today, when people hear about signs of the end time, what will quickly come into their minds as sources of panick are purported unusual happenings/events on news and their immediate environment that they think will lead to the end of this world. But on the contrary, scriptures affirmed that generations comes and go but the earth remains forever(Ecclesiastes 1:4).
Hence, the earth has been existing billions of years ago without exhausting.(science will confirm this). and it will never suddenly go off simply because you believe in rapture or end time.

But again, when another scripture is talking about end time or the last day what exactly is it refering to. Does this scripture contradicts or negates Ecclesiastes1:4.?

Is the bible a contradiction of its own?

A scripture put it this away, SIGNS OF THE COMING OF CHRIST(otherwise known among the Jews as the Messiah) Matthew 24:3.

In summary of what the bible teaches, Daniel in his time prophesied about the coming of the Messiah who was to deliver Israel from captivity. But this deliverance wasn't just to deliver only Israel, but also the gentiles who were never held captive by the Roman empire.

So, Israel's captivity was a mirrage.
The real mission of the Messiah was to save the world from death which he succeeded in doing by subjecting himself to be crucified and also attend glory in resurrection.

THE COMING OF CHRIST IS ALREADY ACHIEVED AND WAS RECORDED IN THE BIBLE OVER 2000 YEARS AGO .

if this is so, why are Christians today still waiting for Christ ?
Are the regular unusual happens /events
They see on news and their environment amount to signs of the coming?

Obviously, they are not.
They are all events that were bound to happen and they have no connection or bearing to any signs of the coming and shouldn't be a blanket for any conspiracy theory formulation by pastors and religions
Therefore, whether things are better or not, life goes on forever as suggested by Ecclestiates 1:4

Christianity Etc › Re: Finally! Pastor Kumuyi Explains His Stance On Dancing In Church by paxonel(m): 11:14pm On Jul 22, 2023*

Dancing or no dancing has absolutely nothing to do with worship.

whether your church dances or not, it does not really matter

Christianity Etc › Re: Categories Of Pastors And Ministers That Will Miss Heaven by paxonel(m): 6:42am On Jul 21, 2023

Techobeys:
With due respect sir, I think you are lost.

with due honor ma, you have disappeared from the bible and you are following religion grin

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Even Jesus says he’ll tell some pastors that “I never knew you”

quote the bible verse let's see what is there.

You saw that i quoted bible verses before saying anything?
You can't just come and say anything on your own here

but you are saying otherwise.

people that say otherwise, they deliberately abandon bible to say things on their own, i didn't do that.

I can sense you are one of those hyper-grace people,

you can sense but you can't read my comments to know what exactly i stand for?
If you didn't read then you shouldn't comment because you'll be doing that in error.

On the contrary of what you sense, i stand for works, i also stand for grace.
According to the bible, i believe that works and grace are two separate entities that shouldn't be mixed like what the op is doing.

and all I’ll say is that you should repent your heart towards God and accept his word as true.

i should accept that if God gives grace to people including pastors then they should work for it?

You are joking!

Even the bad pastors who are doing bad things knows that there is grace and they are taking advantage of it, there is absolutely nothing anyone can do.

Pastor Charles T. Russell was a terrible pastor that mislead people for over a century now, nobody did anything to him

Christianity Etc › Re: Drums In Mountain Of Fire by paxonel(m): 7:44pm On Jul 18, 2023

ckc:
Please does anyone know why all branches of MFM in Nigeria do not play drums in their services? It makes praise and worship uninspiring. I asked one of the workers in the church and they could not provide any reasonable answer which means they are just following a doctrine they don't understand.

drum is a satanic instrument used by demonic waste shaking dance, that's why.

Especially that one that is called talking drum which is talking satanic talk

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Would A New Born Baby Go To After Death Heaven/hell Or Where Else? by paxonel(m): 7:30pm On Jul 17, 2023

ihesiuloa:
Great at least you are being honest, but I need answers based on the biblical accounts and spiritual reasoning.

collection of scriptures with careful reasoning reveals that whether the child will go to heaven or not, will depend on the faith of the mother or parents and not what the child does.
Because also, whether we go to heaven or not is totally dependent on our faith and not what we do.(Romans 3:28)

1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

And how do we know that when a child dies a believer he will resurrect a believer and not an unbeliever?

Romans 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

Since the child died a believer, certainly he will also be raised a believer.

But if the child's parents were adherents of other religions like Islam, atheism etc and not the Christian faith, then the child dies forever and will not resurrect

Christianity Etc › Re: Some Benefits Of Religion by paxonel(op): 3:05am On Jul 16, 2023

Christianity Etc › Re: Isa Is Not Jesus (There Is No Muslim Jesus) by paxonel(m): 2:47am On Jul 16, 2023

At the end of the day it's a free world, everyone are entitled to their beliefs.
.No Muslim can come into the heart of any Christian to take away what he or she already believes,

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
John10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

neither do any Christian interested in taking away what Muslims believes
.
The most important thing is, you are alive and believing or doubting something

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Still Go Out On Outreah? by paxonel(m): 2:57pm On Jul 15, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
So they're all contradicting themselves {Act 23:7-8}

you are just quoting scriptures you don't even know the content of the very scripture you quote and in your mind you think people are so myopic, they don't see grin

Go back and read those scriptures again whether you will see Jehovah witnesses specifically mentioned there talkess of the scripture mentioning rivalry between jw and Christians .
Then, if it is not Jehovah witness how do they teach you to conclude that the scripture has anything to do with it jehovah witnesses ?

This is one of the reason your teachings are full of fallacies

but they're rejecting Jehovah's Witnesses just as all first century Jewish religions were rejecting Jesus and his disciples. John 15:19

Another fallacy!
No correlation in this statement that will warrant a right thinking person to jump into conclusions like this

Thanks for proving that only Jehovah's Witnesses stands out!

Ofcourse when a falsehood is very obvious it will always stand out clearly.

I know there are falsehood among Christians too, but this your own is very clear like, mehn!
For more than a century now people are still following a teaching/doctrine that a primary school drop out formulated a century ago.

Omo, religion strong o grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Still Go Out On Outreah? by paxonel(m): 1:54pm On Jul 15, 2023*

MaxInDHouse:
they want Jesus and his disciples to tell people that both Pharisees, Sadducees and all other Jewish religions had God's approval just as you're expecting us to accept different sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines today as Christians!

Hello!
Is your mind here? grin

How does this analogy you put up here correlate?

The point is, you don't have any choice but to accept these sects you claim to reject being that they are all saved through faith in Christ. Otherwise, you would have totally ignored them a long time ago rather than you jw's bashing them with your outreach and doctrines they have clearly rejected and have ignored you jws to do your thing.

And moreover,the Pharisees and the saducees in the bible were never of the same faith with Christians so your analogy that i want you to accept Christians just like the Jews want Jesus and his disciples to accept the Pharisees and the saducees DOES NOT FOLLOW.

You know what it means to say a statement in relation to another statement does not follow.?

It's a fallacy called Non sequitur.

Needless to point, your jw teachings are always full of fallacies the reason being that the founder of your organization was a primary school drop out, how will he possibly understand fallacies?
And you allow a primary school drop out to manipulate your brains?
Wow! grin

Like seriously?

That's why Christians are rejecting you people.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Still Go Out On Outreah? by paxonel(m): 6:29am On Jul 15, 2023*

MaxInDHouse:
Definitely you don't even understand what the synagogues stands for!
Synagogues are worship centers where Jews meet for their sacred service to God

I say it is worship place for the Jews. You say it is worship centre, what is then the difference?

, it stands as the religion of Jews

is the religion of the Jews Christianity?

If we're to go by your analogy Jesus and Paul aren't supposed to go into the synagogue to convert anyone because the Jews their are worshiping the same God that Jesus and Paul want to preach!

There are many monotheistic religions that worship the same God with Christianity but they are not of the same faith with Christianity.
Examples are Judaism, Buddhiism and Islam.

By Jesus, Peter and Paul's standard of outreach, these Juddaists, Muslims or Buddhists need to be saved that's why Jesus and Paul went to their synagues to convert them.

Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

Imagine, after all the great things these isrealites did for God in the old testament, yet they still need to be saved

But, how many times have you Jehovah witnesses ever preach to Muslims about Jesus, talkless of you people going into their mosque to convert them?
There has never been any such thing.

Rather you are looking for fellow Christians in catholic, winners, rccg, deeper life, Christ embassy etc to convert.
Is your outreach not a show of eye service same with that of all these churches like that?

You people have turn Christianity into a joke like a farmer who is avoiding the field and is looking for fruits to harvest inside his own storage.

Una get sense o grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Still Go Out On Outreah? by paxonel(m): 1:24am On Jul 15, 2023*

Your outreach are always counterproductive.

Your targets are never Muslims, Atheists, Hinduists, Bhuddists and every non Christians to win souls for Christ. Rather, your targets are always fellow Christ'ians who belong to other denominations.

This is how Paul did his outreach

Acts 17:17 Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him.

He will go straight into the synagogue.

You know what synagogue was?
It was the worship place of Judaism, just like the mosque.

No wonder Jesus, Paul and the martyrs were killed.

But all you winners
All you Christ embassy
All you Jehovah witness
All you deeper life
All you rccg etc

And some will do alter call inside church saying they are winning souls, nor be juju be that?
How many Muslims, Traditionalists, Hinduists, Atheists person dey see inside church?

Scammers!

Ya all are joking when it comes to outreach, you ain't no doing the real thing but eye service so that people will not get talking that you are not following the footsteps of Jesus, Paul and the early Christians.

Ya'll ain't sincere

Christianity Etc › Re: Some Benefits Of Religion by paxonel(op): 4:52pm On Jul 13, 2023*

Christianity Etc › Re: Categories Of Pastors And Ministers That Will Miss Heaven by paxonel(m): 2:04am On Jul 13, 2023

Ken4Christ:
Galatians 5:19-21

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Notice verse 21 says that those who commit these things written in the passage will not inherit the kingdom of God. And this letter was written to the church warning us to desist from such acts.

paxonel

what the scripture says is very true!
And it is also applied in revelation.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Meaning, everyone were judged according to their works, but no one was justified into heaven.

Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Then after that, the book life which was the second book was brought and there was a roll call from this second book.

Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

This was done after the roll Call.

OUR DESTINY IS IN OUR HANDS

Christianity Etc › Re: Categories Of Pastors And Ministers That Will Miss Heaven by paxonel(m): 1:51am On Jul 13, 2023

Ken4Christ:
Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

And what is this heavenly gift?
It is the gift of salvation.

How do you get the gift of salvation?
It is by believing in Christ.

So these people once believed, later they lost that belief just like many Christians ended up becoming atheists

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5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6 If they shall FALL AWAY , to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put
him to an open shame.

The passage above let us know that it's possible for some believers to fall away.

paxonel

it is possible only if at some point they decided to disbelief. At that point they have fallen away

Christianity Etc › Re: Categories Of Pastors And Ministers That Will Miss Heaven by paxonel(m): 1:36am On Jul 13, 2023

Ken4Christ:
Please, explain the verse of scripture below:

Romans 11:21
For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

When you read it from the previous verse

Romans 11:20 Well [because of unbelief they were..

Because of what?
Because of unbelief

So God will not spare any natural branch that loose his belief in Christ

And John 3:16 says that whosoever believes in him should have everlasting life

This invariably means whosoever does not believes in him will not have everlasting life.

So, all Christians have believed.
Call them fake pastors
Good pastors or whatever.

You can now see that our destiny is in our hands.

Christianity Etc › Re: Categories Of Pastors And Ministers That Will Miss Heaven by paxonel(m): 12:56am On Jul 13, 2023*

THERE IS NO SINGLE SCRIPTURE THAT SUGGEST THAT ANY CATEGORY OF PASTORS OR ANY CHURCH MEMBERS WILL MISS HEAVEN NO MATTER THEIR ATROCITIES, SEEING THAT THERE IS GRACE CLAUSE THAT IS ATTACHED TO THEIR SALVATION THROUGH CHRIST.

SO, USING THE FEAR HEAVEN OR HELL FIRE TO GET PEOPLE REPENT OF THEIR EVIL WOUNT WORK ESPECIALLY FOR POVERTY STRICKEN THIRD WORLD AFRICAN COUNTRIES WHICH INCLUDES NIGERIA. SO YOU ARE JUST WASTING YOUR TIME POSTING THIS.

THERE ARE OTHER BETTER ALTERNATIVES WHICH ARE THE ROLES OF THE FAMILY AND SOCIETAL CULTURES TOWARDS EDUCATING MINDS FROM THE SCRATCH ON HOW TO LIVE BETTER, WHICH IS WHAT AFRICA IS TERRIBLY LACKING.

AGAIN, HOW MANY AFRICAN PARENTS AND TRADITIONAL INSTITUTIONS ARE EDUCATED ENOUGH TO FIT INTO THAT ROLE?

Christianity Etc › Re: Some Benefits Of Religion by paxonel(op): 12:24am On Jul 13, 2023

So, what are the benefits of atheism, can someone list them?

Christianity Etc › Re: Some Benefits Of Religion by paxonel(op): 6:16pm On Jul 12, 2023

Chronosvineberg:
You do have a point, ever since I left Jesus and started my romance with the devil. Na me and shege de live o

Christianity Etc › Some Benefits Of Religion by paxonel(op): 5:00pm On Jul 12, 2023

1.Religion Initiates social connections with other members
2. It creates a sense of belonging to a group
3.It offers trustworthy and safe social engagement
4. Provides moral guidelines to live by (i.e. the importance of doing the right things)
5. It teaches compassion, forgiveness and gratitude
6. It provides spiritual gratification of the mind
7. It is a source of hope for supernatural interventions which positively influences mental health and emotional wellbeing.
8. It accepts any person, whether they are part of a religion or not
9. some religious sects are dedicated to build intelligence of locals encouraging them to learn how to read and write
10. They provide material needs to the poor among them
11. Religion encourages unity among tribes, races and the various economic classes in the society
12. it kicks against polical and social excesses/decadence and acts as a voice for good societal and cultural values
13. some religious organisations build and manage private educational institutions.
14. Some religious leaders provides counselling and family support to their members

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Any Biblical Prophecy About Rise Of Islam? by paxonel(m): 3:37pm On Jul 08, 2023

Janosky:
Carry your Mumu post to the dustbin.

James 2:19
You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder."

Oga,You don't seem to understand that there is difference between believe and Faith.

1. Muslims believe that Jesus is Messiah is very relevant, contrary to your FALSE claim.

2. Oga,is it irrelevant that Christians believe Moses was a prophet?
Christians do not put faith in Moses,in the same manner that Muslims do not put faith in Jesus & demons do not put faith in God, but believe God exists.
3. James 2:19, Oga understand the difference between faith and believe.
Or according to your faulty analogy, Christians believe in Moses the prophet is irrelevant.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Any Biblical Prophecy About Rise Of Islam? by paxonel(m): 2:13am On Jul 08, 2023

Janosky:
Yes !

"Jesus, who is known as Isa in Arabic, nor do they consider him divine, but they do believe that he was a prophet or messenger of God and he is called the Messiah in the Quran. However, by affirming Jesus as Messiah they are attesting to his messianic message."
Jesus in Islam - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki › Jesus_in_Islam

Also, screenshot PROVEN evidence.

you are not getting the question i asked and you are jumping into it to post irrelevances.

Your colleage in your organization who is more intelligent than you and understood the question i asked has run away, you are here biting a pie you cannot chew.

Do Muslims believe in Jesus Christ?
when I say believe i mean believing in him as the founder of their religion or faith called Islam, not believing that he was a prophet or Messiah

Christians too believe that Moses was a prophet.
But do Christians believe that Moses founded the Christian religion?
The answer is no!

The same question, do Muslims believe Jesus as the founder of the religion they believe in?

Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Any Biblical Prophecy About Rise Of Islam? by paxonel(m): 1:23am On Jul 08, 2023*

Janosky:
Carry your GIBBERISH outta here.

The truth is bitter to your soul.

it seems you are a new comer on NL religion section and you don't know how to address people abi?

Na you go run o grin

Is this what the confusionist, Charles T. Russel has turn you into?
Just like your mentor Russel, you sound very unintelligent like one violent fundamentalist who want to prove his point by all means without reasonable premises.

It seems you are still living in 1914 this morden era, perhaps you had experience situations where you are talking to people and they will just ignore you because you don't know what you are doing.
That's what I'm saying!
people will simply leave you and your organization behind to wallow in the past

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Christianity Etc › Re: How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by paxonel(m): 9:28am On Jul 06, 2023

vdestro:
Saying we should follow the ways of the Europeans is enough to bring it up.

the op was specific enough to discuss evolution, not gender confusion

Christianity Etc › Re: How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by paxonel(m): 9:24am On Jul 06, 2023

vdestro:
Are you saying that In other words, that monkeys, apes and human beings were brothers who had a common parent (ancestor) now extinct?

the words brothers and parent cannot be used in this context as they never lived together as a family and they will never do so grin

Christianity Etc › Re: How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by paxonel(m): 7:51am On Jul 06, 2023

Workch:
we almost know the primate species. They are catarrhines.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by paxonel(m): 7:50am On Jul 06, 2023

vdestro:
You brought it in by saying that Africans are not following the Europeans.

but I don't mention gender confusion?

Christianity Etc › Re: How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by paxonel(m): 7:35am On Jul 06, 2023

vdestro:
Ok. I did not care to know which is earlier or later, i only remember those 2 names, and that is not the point i wanted you to address.

My point was, you said man "did not evolve from them" plus man evolved from them

paxonel:
The theory says man have a common ancestor with these creatures, not that man evolved from them
that's what it suggest!
And, according the theory, homosapien being the most recently EVOLVED PRIMATE

Is this not contradictory?

They have a common ancestor means that there is an extinct primate species(which is still not known) that both homosapien and monkeys or Ape originated from. That extinct primate is their common ancestor and the origin human evolution, not monkey's or Ape.

You can Google the question "Are humans evolved from Ape or monkey's ?"
Read the article from Wikipedia

Christianity Etc › Re: How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by paxonel(m): 5:43am On Jul 06, 2023

vdestro:
So, as Europe is practicing the religion of gender confusion and madness, Africans should follow them?

you are jumping into what has nothing to do with this thread.
Moreover, gender confusion or whatever, isn't religion

Or as they are shooting themselves in the malls and streets and schools, Africans should follow them?

you should rather be concern with your security in the North and South East.
You cannot come and compare the security structure in most Europian countries with what is obtainable in tropical Africa

O Lord, please do come and burn this world as you planned to do.

waoo!
Interesting grin

Madness is everywhere.

we know!

But in Africa, it combines with tribalism, poverty, insecurity, illiteracy, hunger, job insecurity, electoral fraud, corruption, underdevepment poor schools and religious intolerance

Christianity Etc › Re: How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by paxonel(m): 8:40pm On Jul 05, 2023

Workch:
those things don't matter with someone without brain. Do you think that they are not seeing it?

who say they don't have brain?

Possibly, some of them might just begin to think over it and decides to carry out full investigation

Christianity Etc › Re: How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by paxonel(m): 8:34pm On Jul 05, 2023

vdestro:
See, the bold, is it not contradictory? Did the theory not say homosapiens evolved to homoerectus, which they say is man?

no!

Homoerectus was a primitive version of homosapien having smaller brain and lower intelligence, but they were able stand perfectly erect like homosapiens

Christianity Etc › Re: How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by paxonel(m): 8:22pm On Jul 05, 2023

Workch:
you are wasting your time trying to educate conservatives.
They are the African literals I am talking about in the OP

I know!

Atleast let them be aware that Europe who imported the religion to Africa are currently doing very well now, while Africa practicing the same religion is lagging behind for this same reason

Christianity Etc › Re: How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by paxonel(m): 4:15pm On Jul 05, 2023

Aemmyjah:
Where do the apes come from?

God created them, who knows when?

Probably they must have evolved from other species

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