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RomanceRe: Are You Proud Of Your Boyfriend? by pendo89(f): 11:21am On Jan 16, 2012
lol what a thread. grin Everybody is on Onila's issue not Orinkila.

Onila and Orinkila.
Foreign AffairsRe: Angola's AMAZING Post-War Transformation by pendo89(f): 8:11am On Jan 16, 2012
You need to visit their public hospitals.
The best medical care is free to all regardless of class and they have the best facilities. I just couldnt believe that a poor man could walk into any public hospital and get a dialysis,chemo,radiation,organs transplant for free free free!!!
What's more,education up to university level is free.

The only bad thing with Angola is the cost of living. Its very expensive to live in Angola. (I think its the most exp city to live in Africa).
Food is damn exp cz the people either don't care about farming or fear the explosives could still be lying in the farms.
Imagine them importing basic foods from foreign countries while the farms lie idle.

They have tried. I give them B+ .
TravelRe: Kenya Visa Needed by pendo89(f): 7:47am On Jan 16, 2012
kennybuda:
@chuksikem
No contact yet i herd the visa is being issued at piont of entry but am not realy sure about it, if you  any infor alert me pls
You have not contacted them yet but you heard about visa issues.Now anything not coming from source I do not take serious.
Why not call the embassy or write an email for clarification??
Lemmie make it easy by posting the rules here.

NIGERIAN HIGH COMMISSION IN ABUJA VISA OFFICE HOURS

Submission of applications - Monday – Friday - 10:00 a.m. – 1:00 p.m.
Collection of Passports submitted – Monday – Friday 1pm to 2.pm
             
Visa Requirements

1.    A valid Passport with at least one unused page for endorsement – to be submitted with the application.
2.    Passport should be valid for at least six months at the date of entry to Kenya
3.    A duly completed visa application form V.1 in duplicate
4.    Two recent passport size photo
5.    Travel itinerary or business letter
6.    Indicate your daytime telephone number

Any application not meeting the above requirements will be considered INCOMPLETE and will remain unprocessed.

Types of Visas and fee Charged

1.    Multiple Journey Visa (6 months- 1 Year)        N 17,600
2.    Single Journey Visa                                      N 8,800
3.    Transit Visa                                                N 3,600
4.    Diplomatic/Official Visa                                  Gratis
5.    Referral fee for Referred visas                        N 1,800

Please Note:
1.    A Visa is required prior to entry into Kenya
2.    Visas are usually issued valid for three months from the date of issue
3.    Multiple journey visa applications are referred to the Director of Immigration Services, Nairobi, for processing and approval. Process takes 8 weeks or more
4.    Visa Fee must be paid by cash and in Naira
5.    Cheques and Credit cards are not accepted.

Processing Time

•    Visa applications presented at the counter are processed within 4 days
    Referral cases take at least 1months- persons falling under referred cases are advised to apply at least 3 months before the proposed date of travel to Kenya.
•    Visa fee is Non-Refundable once visa is issued.

NATIONALS OF THE COUNTRIES LISTED BELOW REQUIRE REFERRED VISAS – APPLICATIONS ARE SENT TO NAIROBI FOR APPROVAL

Nigeria is one of the listed countries among many.
TravelRe: Kenya Visa Needed by pendo89(f): 7:33am On Jan 16, 2012
chuksikem:
Hi pendo

pls i need info or contact of a good travel agency , i want to arrange for a 3day romantic trip to kenya, kindly furnish me with info on how to go about it, and probably recommend any good travel agent.

Thanks
There's are so many I could list over 50 but I will refer you to one that I personally use and know very well.

I dont want to play agent by furnishing you with all details. That is the agents job because your paying them to do so.
What matters most is when you intend to travel,(low or high season), the no. of people,your budget plus have a valid visa
The agent will help you decide the destination. June - August are pretty cold months in Kenya.But the coastal weather is all round.
ok am diverging too much info. I will connect you to the agent and you can proceed with mail communication.

will post email of the agency.
TravelRe: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by pendo89(f): 7:05am On Jan 16, 2012
lemmie guess.This photo was taken from the rooftop of KICC
gallivant:
I see that however,its becoming a problem.There is a need for civil education and proper planning(obviously there is a need for footpaths on a freeway!)before we embark on major changes.As of now,Kenyans are not ready for highways.Took this today on a bus from Thika. In all photos there are pedestrians or some cyclist where really, they have no reason to be on the damn road!
Please tell me your not serious. Highways are made for vehicles not people. If there's one country in need of super highways in EA its Kenya. The traffic is just too much!! Jeez! youv never been caught in traffic.
Besides the highways are being constructed on super busy and major routes from the city.
Problem with Kenyans is that they hate taking the long route to arrive at their destination.They are always on the move and want to move faster.
Am also guilty.I hate walking on pavements.I think its just some phobia I have.A phobia of crowds so you are most likely to see me competing with vehicles if I am taking a walk.


Now I miss shags!!after seeing Thika road. sad
Foreign AffairsRe: Us Troops Urinating On Dead Bodies by pendo89(f): 7:15am On Jan 13, 2012
hahaha@ bringing 'piss' to the middle east.
No respect for the dead?
Dating And Meet-up ZoneRe: How Did Your Day Go? by pendo89(f): 7:01am On Jan 13, 2012
There are threads I just enjoy reading.
Freecocoa gal grin grin grin you cracked me up by giving the guy evil aunt hellen's no!! shocked
you are soo funny.
TravelRe: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by pendo89(f): 6:48am On Jan 13, 2012
yep its fully protected. Some well connected dudes thought they could build houses right in the park. They got demolished.
The encroachment was a big challenge but its well preserved.
TravelRe: Kenya Visa Needed by pendo89(f): 6:36am On Jan 13, 2012
Hey Kenya has a high commission in Abuja.

http://kenyanigeria.org/
For visa requirements check >>http://kenyanigeria.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12&Itemid=20.
Its pretty detailed but note carefully the list of countries needing further referral and approval from Kenya.


Contacts

No 21, Yedseram Street, Maitama, Abuja
P.M.B. 5160, Wuse Head Office, Garki, Abuja
+234-09-2208015 | +234-09-2208021 / 22
+234 816 474 9510
info@kenyanigeria.com

Please try contacting them.
TravelRe: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by pendo89(f): 6:29am On Jan 13, 2012
Let people have kids. If they can afford why not? If the resources match up its fine.
Yesterday the goverment destroyed parts of kibera slum as part of the slums upgrade project.
Upper hill is a city on its own.Most businesses moved there and its booming with activity.

I love going home from work cz the scenery is too beautiful.The road from the airport to mombasa road is at times graced with girraffes,zebras and antelopes. Occassionally one may see a hyena.
TravelRe: Kenya Visa Needed by pendo89(f): 7:16pm On Jan 12, 2012
sorry check my other post below.
RomanceRe: Would U Tolerate A Partner That Comes Home Late In The Night? by pendo89(f): 1:27pm On Jan 12, 2012
@ sexkillz

This is my last post on this thread. angry

Several things can make a partner come home late and job is one of them. You have not asked why we are sticking to job even though the op never specified it? Al tell u why. Its cz as far as am concerned its the only genuine reason a partner can give for coming late everyday.
Any other excuse is vain but note I said 'everyday'.


There's one department where I work called the declaration department.They are always the last to leave because of deadlines plus the work is just too much.
The co pays for their taxi and they leave office even at 9 pm when work is too much. The industry I work for operates 24/7 cz planes operate on scheduled time,clients may be late in getting docs ready,lack of space in planes and goods must go cz you assured the flower farmer his roses will be in Amsterdam for auction by 10 am the following day!!  plus day staff cannot leave work undone till the night staff arrive to pick up.
You cannot rule out delays cz we drive on roads and anything can happen.
That staff must make sure everything is in order before she/he calls it a day!! Time becomes irrelevant in such instances.

Now these declaration guys some female married and with kids are dropped at their doorsteps if they work late into the night.They get paid extra allowance for that.
You know what? I have never heard any complain and none has quit job over that. And they still manage stable families.

When I talk about late I am not talking of night shift workers who go home at 6 am.I am talking about that Flight attendant whose plane lands at 10 pm in his own countryand he/she must go home. The airline provides transport 24/7 for such staff.
And what about the lecturer and his evening classes? There are married people studying after work no? and they need a lecturer no?? If the classes begin at 7 pm to end at 9 pm where do they go?? No according to killz they must quit.
Some shopping malls close at 9 pm.They are full of lady cashiers and attendants.What happens to them? sexkillz insists they must quit!

Think worldwide plus many other careers too. Some partners work 2/3 jobs to make ends meet. After the normal day job they go work an extra 2 hours to boost income. Get rid of hacienda mentality

Yeah I know extra income is bullshiotology to you cz you only need love to survive!!! undecided


My other examples (those u say are offpoint) were in ref to your 'quitology theory'. Life doenst work like that is my 2 cent advise to u.
I would however wish to point this one out.I don't support both partners coming in home late esp where kids are involved.
In such a case on must sacrifice and there's has been a thread on that before.

My final advise to you. Make sure you sexkillz can tolerate your wife's career before you say I do. Make sure her career will never land her a night job or make her work late.


@ chima .
oh yeah they are. Am teaching them how to respect gals.They are in the 'I hate gals stage'

**nuclear bomb now*
TravelRe: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by pendo89(f): 12:16pm On Jan 12, 2012
Yeah get back and get lost is the motto grin grin

Just keep to mombasa road,its easier cz its 2 lanes. I use thika road to go shags but I still haven't mastered the diversions.

Nbo has changed I swear when you look at the developments you feel this urge to go box Nyayo. grin
Democracy is a good thing.
RomanceRe: Would U Tolerate A Partner That Comes Home Late In The Night? by pendo89(f): 11:58am On Jan 12, 2012
sexkillz:
[color=#000030]It's either her Job or her Family! That one no hard to choose! It's the quintessentially st[i]u[/i]pid wife that will choose her Job over her family![/color] grin grin grin
You got a loong long way to go killz.  No sane married woman with kids will sacrifice her family for her job!!

Next her coming home early is not a sign of her true devotion to family,neither is her coming late. Mrs sexkillz will come early cz she dreads the consequences.

Do you know the number of  irresponsible/carefree women who come home early everyday?

Sexkillz wake up from slumber! What makes you think that a wife who is supposedly the bread winner will quit her night job because the struggling or jobless hubby wants her home at 7 ? And which sane jobless/struggling man will demand that his wife quit her job in order to be home by 7 because he loves her too much?? Sexkillz everybody is trying to make ends meet and 2 incomes are better than one. Love is also responsible and responsibility means being able to provide well for ur household.
She's not prostituting 4 christ' sake but working to bring food home or supplement the family's income. And if you doubt her then you got trust issues and you are better of without her!.

If the hubby is rich that's a different game but rem what I said, some people derive satisfaction from working and keeping busy.Income is not the driving factor. Now pray that you dont land yourself such a wife cz ul never force her to quit.

The whole issue of insecurity I understand based on where one is located but some places have proper security and most companies who's staff work late into the night provide transport. And even if they dont I doubt any good company would send staff home late when they know that transport is an issue.
(We are just assuming that its work keepin her out late not friends.)

Sexkillz puppy love doesn't work in marriage. In marriage people practice dog/tough love.That means accomodating what we dislike as long as they don't go against the values we treasure.
Some of the things we may dislike include a wife working late but tolerating her and both of you agreeing to work around it till she gets a day job if you prefer.
What are u gonna do if she wears a hairstyle u dislike yet she believes its fashionable? Cut of her hair and burn her wigs??
If your child is getting bullied by the neighbourhood kids will you move house?  What if he performs poorly will you change schools??

I will tell smthing. Many tough situations in life come to make us strong.They are platforms to greater challenges so quiters never make it.
You can tolerate some bullshit cz it will teach you a good lesson and make u strong.I am not talking about compromise but tolerance.

That word you like using called 'quit' doesn't work that easy in marriage set up. Its easier said than done. Go talk to married peeps and let them tell u  how the world we live in sometimes puts pressure on marriage but instead of quiting all the time they devise ways of dealing with it.

I told you that some dating principles work only for a dating couple.You can quit while dating but u tolerate some(not life threatening poo) in marriage.
Your reasoning is somewhat skewed cz u believe love is the remedy to all things.

If I love her I can take a bullet for her,I can ask her to quit her job,I can ask her to give me 7 kids,I can ask her to wear only what I choose and cook what I want.

Love is great but love without wisdom makes men and women behave silly.

** I throw a bomb on thread** grin grin
TravelRe: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by pendo89(f): 7:45am On Jan 12, 2012
Masai if u havent been to Thika road of late don't even dare driving there without a guide!! Kenyan drivers are getting lost trying to navigate cz what they were used to has been removed.New lanes,diversions etc and the roads crisscross each other in away that would make you find yourself back in the city where you actually drove from, while you are thinking you are heading to safari park!!  grin grin
It has happend to smbody.He kept going round and round he gave up and asked the chinese where they have taken his route!!
TravelRe: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by pendo89(f): 7:30am On Jan 12, 2012
I am so happy they are getting rid of roundabouts which have been the cause of unnecessary traffic.Embakasi one gone,Museum hill gone,Gsu round about, gone,Globe cinema roundabout gone even the one at nyayo stadium is going.
God bless china and Kenya grin grin

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7bNh02_t_gk/TWin36-YiyI/AAAAAAAAA0M/dbGMAPWfIGw/s640/Flyover.jpg

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There is road construction everywhere in Nairobi.This is only Thika road.Theres lots more at Embakasi and Mombasa road.
Fly overs I am just happy that traffic will be a thing of the past.
TravelRe: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by pendo89(f): 7:12am On Jan 12, 2012
Masai I saw the estate.
Now are you trying to organise a honeymoon package or assist him buy property?? You cant have a honeymoon in a residential place lol,Its a honeymoon,There's a difference.

Nway Thika road pics

https://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/35533758.jpg
Thats how it looks like.It should be ready by July this year.
TravelRe: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by pendo89(f): 6:52am On Jan 12, 2012
People are walking on the road because the footpath is still under construction.The road is just near completion and many times there's fresh tarmac or closed roads.
It will be impossible to even cross that highway unless u want to die fast. There's just no stopping for vehicles.

Read the paper below to help you understand the vision 2030 project.

http://www.tatucity.com/DynamicData/Downloads/NM_Vision_2030.pdf
RomanceRe: Would U Tolerate A Partner That Comes Home Late In The Night? by pendo89(f): 6:31am On Jan 12, 2012
[quote author=Mrs, Chima link=topic=843288.msg9946354#msg9946354 date=1326329620]Pendo Sis

You can lead the horse to water, but you can't make it swallow.   wink  Rest your beautiful fingers and come see the babies on Nairaland's Cutest Baby Contest thread.  The babies are just lovely and we need to get you ready for one.   tongue[/quote]oops! too late. I am watching my two lovely boys grow now while still in my youth. smiley
checking out 'Amya's baby pic. Pretty blue eyes.
RomanceRe: Would U Tolerate A Partner That Comes Home Late In The Night? by pendo89(f): 10:48pm On Jan 11, 2012
^^ mature thinking
RomanceRe: Would U Tolerate A Partner That Comes Home Late In The Night? by pendo89(f): 10:03pm On Jan 11, 2012
sexkillz:
[color=#000030]Is cheating the only fallout of coming home late? Do you or do you not wonder about the kind of frienships he keeps at night? What do you really understand by marriage if i may ask? Cos the kind of responses and permissiveness makes it look as if you are in an open relationship! [/color][color=#000030]Yes! But that was not the question was it? I asked you, can a good man get bad or not? Cos you made it sound as if he aint prone to vices, simply because he is a good man![/color][color=#000030]So not tolerating nocturnal activities means i'm suffocating my wife? shocked Not girlfriend o, wife? Yeah right!. . . Tell that to the birds!. . . cheesy[/color][color=#000030]Who ever claimed of being superman in a relationship! Have you heard the word preventive measures before? My wife is responsible to me, true or false? Or would you claim "Mrs independent" under my own roof too? You are married dammit! cheesy[/color][color=#000030]Eventualities happen irregardless of whatever, but the dangers of the night tips the scale. . . Dont even argue! wink[/color]
[color=#000030]If i fail to plan, i have planned to fail! That is why i'll date before marrying, i should have sorted out those issues prior to getting married. If it doesnt suit me, i waka! but then, relationships, especially marriage is about sacrifices! So everyone that puts necessary measures in place to safeguard their relationships, get disappointed? Haha! I'd rather try. . . cool[/color][color=#000030]In a dating game, come home when you like and see if i give a flying rat's arse! When you married, rules change! If you cant bend to some rules, DONT get married! If its her job, i've made myself clear! What else would or should keep a family woman out late at night? Bullshit! This aint father and mother stuff! You are aspiring parents for gawd's sake! Love doesnt make rush decisions.Its understanding and tolerant, and makes reasonable sacrifices that would be beneficial to the couple and the whole family in extension![/color]
i thought i gave up on this gosh.

Why should I be bothered abt the friends he keeps at night? I cannot control a man. If hes got friends I will know them during the day and if he insists on meeting them at night then its non of my biz. I dont think I married a stranger,so I should be confident or else lose sleep wondering who he s talking to.

There are other fall outs of coming home late. But your solution of quiting job I am not in favour of.

Who is a good man? >The one who puts the interest of his family first regardless of time.Its not the one who is home by 5 pm sharp!!
And both men can turn out bad.

A good positive nocturnal activity/job which puts bread on the table is highly welcomed. Stop making night workers look weird. Seems to me that you cannot marry a doc/nurse/lecturer/flight attendants/people that work in the travel industry plus many many more.
Sexkillz just marry the lady at the village stall next to your house and ul live happily everafter.

Your wife is responsible to u and vv. Responsibility is freedom not control/domination. You owe each other respect and understanding so dont force her to quit if she doesnt want to.  Bt shes your wife so whatever u do its your biz.

Yeah who in their right minds marries without dating? And how many couples that date end up splitting? Its not a safeguard you know.People hide inadequacies during courtship so saying you have planned well is not 100% true. The reason life is a risk.

What keeps a wife out late is her job. If you dont feel comfortable with that make sure you know your wife's career before marrying cz u can't keep asking her to quit all the time or  move houses.

But if you love her too much why not go pick her at her place of work? You can take a bullet for her rem so why worry about crime??
RomanceRe: Would U Tolerate A Partner That Comes Home Late In The Night? by pendo89(f): 6:25pm On Jan 11, 2012
Well said chima.
RomanceRe: Naija Babes On Da House B/w These Two Men Wich One U Go Prefer As Ur Husband? by pendo89(f): 6:18pm On Jan 11, 2012
waiting for smbody to chase something across the thread. grin grin
RomanceRe: Would U Tolerate A Partner That Comes Home Late In The Night? by pendo89(f): 6:00pm On Jan 11, 2012
@ chima
See thats exactly what am talking about.
Theory will make us believe it was due to nagging and spying.Well they provoked the feelings of revenge but even then, he had the power to control but he went ahead with revenge to make himself feel better.

Truth be told when somebody cheats he always had the thought in mind,just waiting for an opportune moment to manifest itself.
The thought behaves like an animal with antenna. The antennas keep sensing the wrongs and feeding the thought till the ripe time when the body responds.

You cannot stop a bird from flying over your head but you can stop it from laying eggs
Jokes EtcRe: Dead Man In Mortuary Impregnates Woman by pendo89(f): 5:48pm On Jan 11, 2012
Hahahahah
This is the craziest bullshiotology I have heard of in a looong loong time.
Wait a sec. Nope I wont ask cz the questions are just too many.
RomanceRe: Would U Tolerate A Partner That Comes Home Late In The Night? by pendo89(f): 5:35pm On Jan 11, 2012
sexkillz needs to sit under some old married men to get tips on reality. Life is not a theory and not all theory works in marriage.
Things are dealt with as they come and at times the word love is never mentioned
I strongly believe if a bullet was aimed at ur wife u will dive for cover and disappear in seconds. grin grin
RomanceRe: Would U Tolerate A Partner That Comes Home Late In The Night? by pendo89(f): 5:23pm On Jan 11, 2012
sexkillz:
[color=#000030]It's future wives like you that'll tolerate bullshit and misguide other ladies other ladies into thinking bullshit is acceptable! angry
Which is more preferable, in terms of safety, creating time for the family and ETC? #Coming home early or #Coming home late?
When a man is married, he should realize that he has left the "single" status, and cannot choose to come home whenever he likes even if his wife approves of it!
[/color][color=#000030]It is theoretical attitudes like yours that makes a good man cheat on his wife because he knows she trusts him and doesn't care! So a good man doesnt go bad? Yeah right! So what happens when your "good man" husband  goes bad? Is once good, always good? How would you find out? since he is not smelling of female fragrances or alcohol? angry[/color]
Really?? So if I dont mind his coming late or dont trust him, it will it increases his chances of cheatinghuh? Don't you think the reverse is more likely to happen??

are u for real? He can go bad regardless of the time he arrives home!!! What makes a bad guy/lady has nothing to do with home arrival time or HAT!!

Have you ever heard of suffocating love? You may think you are practising love while in essence you are suffocating your partner.
The reason I said you are full of theory.You believe Love is flawless and that you have the power to protect and save. Well be be prepared for any eventualities. People like u end up doing crazy things becz the believe nothing can and should go wrong since they put all necessary measures in place to safeguard their relationship only to be disappointed.

People in love give each other freedom,they risk,they trust their partners enough and at the same time realise they are humans capable of falling.
They  do not try to Father or Mother each other,
Love doesnt make rush decisions.Its understanding and tolerant.
Marriage is not a dating game.
RomanceRe: Would U Tolerate A Partner That Comes Home Late In The Night? by pendo89(f): 1:33pm On Jan 11, 2012
sexkillz:
[color=#000030]I'm not the one that'll allow my husband freedom to do whatever! Neither am i the one that'll allow my husband come home anytime he likes because he is having a good time with friends! That's only found in movies! grin
I am telling you what families have been doing to save their marriages and their families!
Na you be the theory Mama! cool
[/color]
There's a way you irritate.
So you coming home early is enough to save ur marriage?? angry angry

Oooh puuliz where is Chima,Kokoye and r231 when you need them.
killz if my hubby walks in late and he's a good man I wouldnt care. But if he comes home early to sit on the couch ,watch TV and grow belly then Lord have mercy.
RomanceRe: Unmarried Ladies Out There: Do You Want To Get Married? by pendo89(f): 1:25pm On Jan 11, 2012
^^
Most do, do but when,why [/b]and to [b]who is what really matters.

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