₦airaland Forum

seunmsg:
I don’t give a fvck where the money is coming from. The intention is my concern and that is what I addressed. They both have the same intention and it’s quite hypocritical to condemn one and support the other.

If Obi is president and has access to public resources, he will do even worse than Tinubu to get voters patronage so stop crying because Tinubu is beating Obi gbajue to his game.

Northerners want a subsidized hajj and Mr. President has give them. They are Nigerians and they deserve whatever makes them happy. If you like cry from now till 2027, it won’t change anything.

I will be the last person to be surprised that you are supporting corruption.

That would be waste of surprise.

In your camp, anything goes; no morals, no standards, no regards for rule of law, it’s just grab it, snatch it and run with it.

Let’s see how that takes you.

Land cannot be empty

onadana:
I was expecting it,so was careful how much balance I had left in the account.I left N33,000 they took N30,000.I know of a lady they took N279,000 from her account.They cleaned it up.

Chai!

I can imagine the disorientation she will suffer from that.

Just imagine it took her sweat to save up that fund and had financial obligations waiting for her, then fiam, the funds she was hoping on will just disappear; everything. Naaaa! That’s painful

seunmsg:
If you see nothing wrong in Peter Obi attempting to bribe Northerners with borehole and food, why are you crying over Federal Government’s decision to subsidize hajj payment for Muslims? What’s wrong with two can play the game?

I don’t know if it’s shallow thinking or what, but how are you not able to differentiate that Obi is drilling those boreholes with his money while Tinubu is doing saraka to the north with our common patrimony to the tune of 90billion Naira.

How are you not able to make this simple differentiation?

grandstar:
They'll perform the actions of a commercial bank but only for a region i. e Southwest.

For some reason, I sense Tinubu has a hand in this.

I see many drawbacks as the low capital base may see the influx of sleazy fat cats and politicians setting up banks, especially non-interest banks.

What stops a Northern governor setting up such a bank to launder his I'll gotten wealth?

There are advantages and disadvantages to the present policy. But the biggest drawback is we live in a country where those responsible for bank failures rarely go to prison and where depositors (uninsured portions of their savings) wail in despair.

I come from an era from bank failures were very common.

You can imagine the reason for my misgivings with the policy.

My suspicion is that they are trying to run some bank owners out of business and try to use their men to set up new banks.

Tinubu has that tendency

Lagos-Ibadan Expressway press….

Na una go tire las las

If a fly flies past Labour Party National Secretariat, una go blow am out of proportion.

If Abure sneezes, you will headline it that Labour Party is on fire.

If NLC issues a statement, you will claim Labour Party has finally been uprooted.

While your online invalids dance around celebrating nothing.

Again, na una go tire las las.

Spoiler alert: Obi will be on the ballot in 2027; whether you lots like it or not.

Lol!

After seeing the serious inroads that Peter Obi is making into the core Muslim north, Bulaba has decided to try to measure up by bribing northern Muslims with subsidized Hajj.

Or tell me why an administration that claims it wants to implement the Orosanya Report would still be subsidizing Hajj whilst that report recommended that government should stop funding both Muslim and Christian Pilgrimages.

Fear don catch Emilokan while his supporters are on Nairaland living in fools paradise 😏

Buccalcavity2:
Again, these are all emotions. What do you then say of gbagyi people of southern Kaduna, okeogun people of Oyo, Esan people of Edo, Ebira of Kogi....
I do not support additional state creation in SE or any region. As we speak only 3 states of SE "can display potential" to subsist without federal allocation. None can subsist currently! This craze for dissociation should slow. Show us your proof of economic viability before you ask for state creation.

What are the economic viabilities of the states in the Northwest; a region that has 7 states?

NaMe4:
I used the word 'relatively'; when compared to other SE States. It could be less than 5% of the population as you stated.
From the reasons you gave, cultural factors and conflicts of interest were at play.

Well, whether you used relatively or not, the existing of a Muslim population was never part of the reasons for the creation of Ebonyi State.

Again, Ebonyi are not really culturally diverse from the rest of the Igbos as they share nearly everything in common.

I think basically it had to do with the perceived marginalization they suffered under the old Enugu and Anambra states which brings us back to the need to address social ill.

This much is true today about the Southeast having just 5 states while others have 6 and 7. Or is that not a social ill?

grandstar:
Stop judging!

The 500bn capital base is not as draconian as it sounds. I won't be surprised if many of those expected to having done so already or can easily do.

The N200bn base is also easily achievable for those involved. 125bn in 2004 was $800m. N200bn today is $140m. It's only N75bn existing banks needs to hit the N200bn mark. 75bn is about $55m.

At the end of the days, perhaps the number of presently existing banks will be reduced to 15 from the current 21.

You also overlooked the new capital base for regional banks, merchants bank and non-interest banks. This will bring in more players into the industry.

How would regional and merchant banks stimulate growth of the economy?

onadana:
It did ooo...very well...it was bonanza that came at the right time.Guess what?They have started retrieving the money from any of you BVN linked account.Boom....i got a deduction last week from my account and the money was credited to my NIRSAL account.Nobody can escape repayment unless you don't have BVN.

Na that withdrawal go pain pass.

Imagine they withdraw your last card

Fearurcreeator:
They gave my company staff some 50k three times ,some 30k three times

Wow!

I didn’t know o

The truth is that Wike will actually self destruct.

I’ve never seen anyone like him before; not even in history books.

Right now, Wike can’t say that these are his friends and these are his enemies. No one can function like that for a long time.

Not even Tinubu in his evil machinations was that flippant. If anything he remained consistent and loyal to his group of friends and his circle since 1999 while picking up new ones who pass his loyalty test and dropping old friends who betray.

But not Wike, Wike can bulldoze the entirety of his old friends if they give him what he wants and jump into a new circle and he thinks that circle will trust him.

I will be here waiting to see the end of the game that Wike is playing.

NaMe4:
Some important factors considered in State creation:

Cultural factors
Religion
Potential for sustainable Economic growth and development
Conflict Resolution

Population and land mass are not cogent factors for creating a State

For instance, Lagos is densely populated. What benefit would creating a new State from Lagos achieve? Same as Kano. In fact, population should be a reason not to create a new State.

But if a people acknowledge they are different and not well-represented in the affairs of the State, that is a viable reason for agitation for a State.

Looking at the South-East, Ebonyi has a relatively high population of Muslims, and some cultural differences, which may have influenced the State creation.

Presently, except people such as the Igalas, etc in the South East make a case for State creation, creating a State from a relatively homogeneous people would achieve nothing.

I like the factors you enunciated and I can say that those have majorly been the determinant for state creation in Nigeria with the examples of the states I already cited above.

But just to correct a false submission you, Ebonyi has no high population of Muslims; not at all.

There’s a community of Muslims in Afikpo but they don’t make up 5% of Ebonyi population if I’m being generous. But if I want to be harsh, I can tell you authoritatively that they don’t even constitute 1% of Ebonyi population.

So, how did you arrive at that erroneous assertion that “Ebonyi has high population of Muslims?”

Like I stated in the body of the thread, the major reason Ebonyi State was created is because people from other part of Igbos used to, mostly, look down on Ebonyi people who they used to address, derogatorily, as “ndi Abakaliki”. It was difficult for the Abakaliki man to get appointments in the Old Anambra or Enugu States. As they were neglected in appointments, so also were infrastructural developments in their part of the state neglected as well.

All this was because they were considered timid, uneducated, unexposed, crude and everything negative. Some Non-Ebonyi Igbos still harbour these sentiments about ‘Ndi Abakaliki’ but it’s not as strong as it was in the 1990s.

So, the above was the compelling argument that led to the creation of Ebonyi State and not that “high Muslim population” erroneous submission.

Meanwhile, just like the Ebonyi argument was compelling, so also is the argument for the creation of a 6th state for the region equally compelling because of the need to balance in visible imbalance in the way Nigeria is presently structured that is making us lose out both in revenue sharing and in political arrangements.

Armaggedon:
If you give states 60 percent resource control and end federal allocation, the argument about criteria for states creation will die a natural death.
Nigeria is a so strange that viable states sponsor state with larger landmass from the federal allocation. A state claims large landmass but has a cute hunger and very unproductive.

Do you know that I almost ran mad the day I heard that one of the criteria for distribution of FAAC allocation is Landmass.

I don’t know if there’s anywhere else in the world such a thing happens.

nlreserve:
No, the 5 states should be merged. Even the carved out igbos in other regions should be added back to SE as one state. That would be better.

How about merging all states in Nigeria so that the country can become a one state country?

How about that?

Which Nigerians?

Abeg you people should always be specific because me I did not receive shishi.

And I know I’m not the only one who didn’t receive anything from govt throughout the Covid.

Except we now have a new name and a new country 😏

flokii:
If that's the case, then North Central should have at least 5 more states and South West should have at least 3 more States. Let me not talk about North East.

This is why I didn't for once buy into their Obi bullshlt.. It's all part of their plans to get an extra State carved out from South South region, take control of Lagos and Abuja and turn Nigeria upside down with lo0psided appointments.

I wonder when Yoruba leaders will wake up and start placing tax on illegal migrants flocking into South West en masse. Very docile tribe.

North Central should have 5 more states because of what? Because of landmass? Is that what determines state creation?

And where did you see that they want the new state carved out of Southsouth?

Why I’m not bothered by all these shenanigans is that whichever side that wins, Peter Obi is good.

If Abure wins, Obi is good.

If the NLC wins, Obi is good.

That’s why I’m sitting idly by and getting entertained by their roforofo fight while Agbado miscreants are drinking panadol on headache that clearly doesn’t concern them.

This is a people that are supporting a party that has a National Chairman that was caught on camera stuffing stolen funds in his babaringa.

These louts’ equivocation stink🤦

emkz:
Mop up most of the funds stolen by certain people. Force those who took funds out to repatriate them as a way of cleaning the funds. Attract more foreign investors who want to make money from our economy. Making the banks stronger and competitive. Get them to be involved in the core practice of banking instead of funding rubbish.

How would having about 5 commercial banks with 500billion naira capital base attract investment?

Warning: I would want this thread to be as intelligent and informing as possible, so, I implore every respondent to eschew every irascibility, irrationality and illogicality and only make intelligent and informed contributions devoid of primordial sentiments and ethnic biases. Let’s try to come up with something that can actually serve as reference point for a sociological researcher and policy framers.

With the above foundation already laid and believing that every respondent to this thread will cooperate accordingly, let’s now go into the meat of this thread.

I posted a thread about the Southeast gathering lawyers to sue the Federal Government to demand the creation of a 6th state for the region and trillions of Naira lost since 1999 due to the imbalance and some responses to the thread left me scratching my head and cringing.

Comments like ”the whole of Southeast can fit into Kaduna twice”, ”Oyo state is bigger than the whole of Southeast”, kept reoccurring.

On a critical assessment of what such respondents meant, you could see that what they were referring to was the landmasses of the States they were comparing to the Southeast and not population.

This left me thinking and asking myself what should really determine the creation of states. Should state creation be determined by landmass even if you have about 10,000 people in the expanse landmass, or should it be determined by population density even if they are squeezed into a tiny land area?

I ask this question because most of those who expressed disagreement with the demands of the Southeast did not offer any intelligent or compelling argument against such disagreement but mostly shallow tribal slurs.

For context purposes and so we better understand what we are talking about, let’s cite instances/examples of countries (not states in a country) that have lesser landmass and population than every state in the Southeast but yet are countries with voting rights in the United Nations and nobody said “no, you can’t be a country because your country is not up to a county in the United States.”

1) Tuvalu: Tuvalu 🇹🇻 is country with a population slightly above 11,000 (by 2021 estimates) and a landmass of about 26sqm. For context, Ebonyi State is above 5000sqm in landmass.

2) Nauru: Nauru 🇳🇷 is a country with a landmass of about 21sqm

3) Malta: Malta 🇲🇹 is country with a landmass of about 316sqm

4) Liechtenstein: Liechtenstein 🇱🇮 is a country with about 160sqm

5) Seychelles: The Islands of Seychelles 🇸🇨 is made up of about 100,000 people (by March 2024 estimates) and a landmass of 455sqm.

And many more….

Now, above are examples of countries with less than 1000 kilometer square of landmass but are countries regardless. Nobody asked them not to be countries because they are not the size of Kogi, Borno, Oyo, Niger, Kaduna or Benue.

So, where did those that held that position get it from? What is their authority? What is their reason d’etre?

Shouldn’t state creation, like the creation of countries, be about addressing social ills?

Even in Nigeria, the creation of state has, historically, always been guided by the need to address a certain social ill especially the need to give minorities the right of self governance away from the bigger states where they were under the mercy of bigger ethnic group.

This was why Bayelsa was created from Rivers to give the Ijaws self governance over themselves.

It’s the reason a state like Ebonyi was created to give Abakaliki people self governance over the rest of Igbos who discriminated against them then.

Nasarawa was carved out of Plateau for this reason to give Muslims self governance over themselves away from Plateau that was predominantly Christian. And many more….

So, if historically the need to address social ill has majorly informed the creation of states in Nigeria, what is wrong if such consideration is brought to bear again by creating a 6th state for the Southeast to bring them up to par with other regions of the country which have 6 states each; except for Northwest that has 7.

Why should that injustice persist?

Penguin is a bird of reason!

Nlfpmod
Mynd44
Fergie001

When I said in the other thread that buffoons have taken power in Nigeria, it seemed like I was just hating on Tinubu government but it’s the truth.

Or tell me what this particular policy is meant to achieve.

Explain it to me like I’m in nursery school.


In the end, what they will achieve is that banks come together and merge together so they can get the 500billion naira base capital. That’s how we will end up having about just 5 commercial banks remaining.

So, ultimately they will end up shrinking Nigerians’ choices and leaving us at the mercy of just few banks who will treat us as they like because our options are limited.

If you disagree with this, then tell me the advantages of this policy.

I’ll wait

ufotunang:
The 5 states that they gave you people...you people cannot develop the states and provide better lifes for your people and you want another state

Which region has developed theirs?

Konquest:
Anioma is NOT ethnically MONOLITHIC, so cannot be fully called Ibo. I have been reading about the fascinating history of the various folks that make up the Delta North area since the 1980s and I have friends from there.

Anioma is historically made up of communities or towns that were founded within the last 600 years or a little more by migrants who came from several ethnicities such as Bini-Edo, Esan-Edo, Yoruba, Igala, Nri, etc. Some communities also have mixed settlements with different quarters housing migrants in specific towns. Igala-associated communities such as Ebu (Agatha Amata is paternally from there), Asaba,
Illah, etc, exist.

The folks of Agbor have direct links with the Bini people and just a few years ago, the Dein of Agbor made a royal proclamation telling his subjects NOT to give Ibo names to their children because the Agbor or Ika folks have their own language. That story was posted here on NL.

Idumuje Unor in Aniocha North LGA was founded by Esan people or migrants with Idumuje being of Esan origin. Idumuje Ugboko folks also came from Idumuje Unor.

=>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idumuje-Unor


Several communities in Ikaland and Aniocha North LGA have founders and migrants from Bini, Esan, Yorubaland, etc. The Olukumis of Ugbodu, Eko Efun (Ukwu Nzu), have Yoruba forebears and founders. The traditional rulers of these Olukumis towns (in Aniocha North LGA where Onicha Ugbo, Onicha Olona, and Onicha Uku are also located with Issele-Uku serving as the LGA HQ) have been interviewed several times in the media and they clearly identified themselves as having Yoruba ancestries due to the fact that they belonged to Yoruba trading communities who left the Benin area due to upheavals their centuries ago and moved into the Esan area where they stayed for some years before migrating further to establish their new communities on virgin lands centuries back in what is now in Aniocha North LGA, an area close to the Delta State and Edo State borderlands.


The folks in each town or clan in Delta North of Delta State in Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika, Oshimili know full well their ancestries and historical links to these core migrant ethnicities that make up Anioma.

You know, being an intellectual myself (or an intending intellectual) the last thing I would do is to rubbish a supposed product of research.

But then, even these products of research have to be interrogated because ethnophilosophy has thought us that in researching the origin of ethnic groups, the researcher’s bias(es) can affect things a great deal.

Now, considering that the Biafran Civil War ended in 1970, and you are citing a research conducted from the 1980s, you would not blame me if I argue that the researchers who came up with what you are citing as authority now, had premeditated end in conducting their research and that is to try to deny the Anioma people of their Igbo heritage through distorted history of the origin of the different peoples of Delta North.

In statistics and in sociology, even something is 80%, 100% is assumed; even an area contains 80% of a particular tribe, you assume that area belongs to those people even though there are some percentage of other people within the area.

Anambra is indisputably an Igbo State but there are Igala people carved into Anambra. Would therefore tell anyone that addresses Anambra as an Igbo State that he’s wrong?

Ondo is considered a Yoruba State but there Ijaws in the riverine area of the state, would you therefore tell anyone that addresses Ondo as a Yoruba State that he’s wrong?

My point is clear, that there some fractions of people in Delta North who might trace their origin to other ethnic groups other than Igbo doesn’t take away the fact that Delta North is majorly inhabited by the Anioma people who are Igbos.

Dubetex96:
E reach him turn the enormosity of Nigeria problem become unbearable.

A dunce excuse from Agabado camp.

Very funny set of humans.

They are a pitiable set of people

He built Lagos

He tamed the Atlantic.

Now, the opolo eye can’t tame simple electricity grid nearly one year after.

And I can bet my early morning poo that we would still be talking about grid collapse in 4 years to come.

But when Peter Obi went to Egypt to understand their power infrastructure by himself, fools were foaming in the mouth.

Tax, tax and more tax

That’s how they will end up killing existing businesses and impoverishing the people the more with heavy taxes.

This is where Obi is different. Being a trader, he understands that multiple and heavy taxation is bad for both small, medium and big businesses.

Foolish and brainless people have taken over the reins of power.

Pathetic!

Only a fool will believe and masturbate over this. And I’m not surprised to see them in large quantity above.

Looking critically into the so called “Obidient” who insulted Rufai Oseni, you would observe some noticeable defects.

First, his (or her) handle (name) is “Onyekashi”. No Igbo will render his name as “Onyekashi” even in search Twitter handle. If anything, we know the tribe that is used to rendering “Chi” as “Shi” in pronunciation of Igbo names. And that’s why you hear them say “Iya Shukudi” instead of “Iya Chukwudi”, “Shinedu” instead of “Chinedu”, etc.

Again, the effort invested in including all Obidients in the comment gives off the intention to include every Obidient in the hatchet job.

No Obidients speaks for a fellow Obidient. Every Obidient expresses his independent opinion that seemingly aligns with views of others but can never claim to be speaking for everyone.

So you see, the problem with you people is that you are too shallow to even do an impersonation job well.

And only fools will buy this utter display of foolishness.

TopBanter:
They are naturally backwards and regressive. Other regions ,especially the SW, are talking restructuring, regional Autonomy, restructuring, Star policing, modern ranching for livestock and so many many productive and forward-thinking idea while Igbo leaders are graveyard silent and hiding under their desk.

When they do speak, it is to talk of State creation that is as redundant as a 1945 black and white TV that weighs more than a human being . They are just a big, hideous joke. No wonder Igbos are leaving the SE in droves daily.

If only you read beyond the headline, you would have saved yourself from public embarrassment.

Because you would have seen that they talked about devolution of power in the communique.

Again, they talked resource control in a way that would allow the different regions grow at their own pace.

Have you seen you are actually the one suffering from everything you accused the Igbos of?

AareGaa:
Go and form your Biafra and stop stupid analysis on nairaland

I thought you were going to make effort to logically disprove any of my claims but no, you descended into illogicality.

Where in this thread did you see Biafra and what brought about Biafra here?

DeepThroater:
Then do and stop pussing about.

Go back and read my full reaction and react accordingly and stop saying what you don’t know.