₦airaland Forum

LegendHero:
This is in anticipation to the 70,000 FBI pages on Tinubu.

I am starting to love this Hundeyin guy. He is very strategic.

FFK failed to fleece the headless mob when he used to be their shepherd. But Hundeyin is more wiser, he is fleecing the headless mob of every penny because of their stupidity.

I’m sure when FBI drop the 70,000 pages, he will request KGB to drop 1million more pages on Tinubu.

You can continue to comfort yourself with delusion.

You need to know that Obidients are too many that even if about 1million of us decide to donate just 1k each, that would be 1billion Naira.

Now, tell me which Obidient you think would see 1k as being fleeced.

You must think Obidients are ragtags like the CORN people.

I know you lots are pained that he’s finally able to do what even Gani Fawehinmi could not do by exposing the fraud that your lord and saviour is.

But guess what, we will send him all the funds he needs to continue until Tinubu’s downfall is fully achieved.

Make I go donate my own 1k sef.

Rubbish!

Beolly:
Nobody is answerable to you lot. You want everyone to pander to ur thought in order to please you. FFK, Reno and Soyinka who went the length for you guys what's their fate today?

They are all smelling and their reputation damaged forever where they are defending CORN🤓

We want more victims.

We are craving for more idiots who want to tarnish their image because of CORN.

fergie001:
You will agree with me that this recent depositions only took place either this month or late last month.

They were not before the tribunal.

When they say a document is dumped before the Court is when it is tendered from the bar and the maker of the document does not come to testify to that document. South West (or Daley) College did not send depositions or even appeared before the tribunal, same as CSU.

The witness (even if he appeared before the tribunal) is not the maker of that document.

You must speak to those documents.

In the case of Peter Mbah, it is State Capture which can still be redeemed as we go upwards the Court

I like the fact that you acknowledged that Peter Mbah’s escape is a product of State Capture. It’s the reason Mbah kept visiting and revisiting Tinubu during the Tribunal. And I suppose it would be their payback to Ugwuanyi as member of the G5 to helped scatter PDP.

But I just want you to know that what you said about Mbah is also true of Tinubu.

The Tribunal ignored a lot of things and set a lot of dangerous precedences that if allowed to stand by the Supreme Court would set us several years backwards.

They said INEC had powers to choose how to transmit votes which they did. INEC chose to transmit electronically and they told the world that much. But on Election Day they INEC did the opposite of what they said and what was contained in their guidelines.

But the Tribunal looked at those things and said INEC did no wrong.

Abeg, whatever they wanna do with Nigeria, let them carry on.

But as far as I’m concerned, wrong will never be right in my eyes no matter how much it’s reinforced or laundered with propaganda by the most prestigious of media platforms.

fergie001:
It's his decision. Perhaps he is still celebrating his wife been conferred a SAN last week.

The documents were dumped on the tribunal. No witnesses from CSU and even the recent written depositions were not before the lower Court.

What was before the Court was the Diploma with which he got admitted to CSU. Like for example, the Govt College 1970 issue was unknown.
It took the rulings of the Court for CSU to give it to Atiku's lawyers only but recently.

The witnesses from CSU have to be in Court via subpoena. The only time the Supreme Court can accept any new evidence is if it bothers on JURISDICTION.

I have said it many times that Atiku has no intention of pursuing Tinubu in 2023, he wants him (Tinubu) out of 2027.

Well, the last thing I wanna do right now is go back and forth on anything that regards what the courts are going rule as regards the election. They can even go ahead and say that the 2022 Electoral Act was wrongly signed just to spare Tinubu. That’s their business.

But I followed the case at the Tribunal and I remember that these documents were all submitted to the PEPT through Atiku’s witness who got them from CSU through subpoena.

The discrepancies we have now were all noticed there.

The Southwest College degree with “F” on it was among what was submitted as well.

So, there’s nothing Atiku got from CSU that is not already before the court. What he has just succeeded in doing now is that he succeeded in putting more force of law to the documents.

Lastly, I don’t understand what you people mean when say evidence was dumped on the court…. All these are just jargons that the courts use to overlook the merit of a case and dwell into technicalities.

Or how about Peter Mbah’s case?

NYSC shouted on top of their voices on TV and in court that they did not issue Mbah’s NYSC certificate but the Tribunal still went ahead and ruled rubbish. Was that also dumped on the court? Was it not spoken to?

syntekelite:
Buharis intention were sinister and totally in favour of the northern oligarchs which in turn benefits the whole north... Buhari closed borders but the northern border was open, buhari banned 43 items yet which region locally produces most of the banned items - the north, the same buhari& emefiele then gave out loans they hve no intention of recovering to farmers and business men collateral free with low interests mostly to 95% of northerners at times multiple times to same individuals and companies, the same buhari/emefiele then banned crypto citing terrorism as an excuse so that bdc's which are owned by 90%northern elites jst like cows will continue to grow exponentially and become a force in the forex markets rise or fall..

I understand your points.

My position is that other things you mentioned might have been wrong but I still think placing FX restriction on those 43 items was a good policy if we look at it dispassionately.

The idea was to force people to produce those products locally if they can’t access forex to import them which would have helped increase local production and self sufficiency but things didn’t just go as planned.

Buhari got almost everything wrong but I think this wasn’t such a bad idea.

fergie001:
Falana was Tinubu's counsel on this same Certificate issues when it came up in 1999.

Falana stood in for Tinubu against Fawehinmi (whom Keyamo worked for at the time). For him to speak now, will be double-speak.

So he has vested interests for or against and will not speak about it.

On the forgery issue, the SC cannot accept new evidence that didn't translate from the lower Court. The lawyers themselves know, the main issues will arise in 2027, not this one.

I understand Falana’s precarious situation as regards the the case but with new evidences and facts now established, isn’t what someone like him who claim to be honorable supposed to do be to retract from whatever position he had taken in the past?

And about new evidence at the Supreme Court, i thought the lower court already have these documents through the evidence of the Atiku witness who got these documents through subpoena from CSU? Or have we all forgotten?

Falana is talking about EFCC and ICPC but cannot talk about Tinubu’s forgery and identity theft.

I don’t want to believe that Falana is just another CORN man😏

“Igbos hate themselves” crooners will be disappointed.

Fools are losing out on the propaganda they had against Ndigbo and Abia and Aba in particular, and I love it.

Southeast on the rise!

Ndi ala!

Lol!

Idiot is talking because he has not been given appointment.

Shebi the fool was defending Tinubu few weeks after he was sworn in?

What is he criticizing him now for?

Or maybe that’s a way for him to remind them that he still dey o😏

Ndi ala!

Mynd44:
When results are uploaded, it gives party agents a way to crosscheck the results of the elections with what was announced.

After the last presidential election, independent bodies determined to prove that Peter Obi won started collating presents based on IREV and none of them released their findings.

One by Mark Essien (a popular obidient) was abandoned midway after he saw that Tinubu truly won and the activity was going to affect Peter Obi's case at the tribunal.

So that is the point of the IREV. To verify the manually transmitted results


Unfortunately, people like Racoon and Penguin2 will not admit this because of their interests.

Ask Engineerboat though, he will admit.

How can you go to collate what is on the IREV when significant percentage of is there is unreadable?

Up to now, not all of the polling units has been uploaded to the IREV as regards the presidential election.

Is that what you will go to collate?

Mynd44:
Jii

The media were the ones who twisted what INEC had insisted. There is nowhere in the electoral law where INEC is mandated to transmit electronically.

IREV is only a backup to confirm results and not the primary method of transmission. In the buildup to the elections, a lot of nonsense were said by both media houses and social media influencers to give separate meaning to the electoral process.



Read This by engineerboat too. He is saying the same thing as me. There is no where INEC told anyone they will replace manual collation with electronic collation if they did, they were either misquoted or you heard wrong.

There’s no where I said INEC talked about Electronic Collation of votes but Electronic Transmission.

INEC promised to transmit results electronically as to mitigate against manipulation of the results/votes that would be collated manually.

We saw it in Edo.

We saw it in Anambra

We saw it Ekiti.

We saw it Osun.

Why did this practice change at the presidential election?

And talking about social media saying what INEC didn’t say before the election, was it Social Media that recorded Mahmoud Yakubu speaking at Chatham House? If yes, is there evidence that INEC denied that what Yakubu was recorded saying at Chatham House was not the position of INEC?

Mynd44:
The law does not mandate electronic transmission. I don't know where you all got this from

The law does.

That is, the law mandates electronic transmission of all elections conducted after the 2022 Electoral Act was signed into law.

But let’s assume the law didn’t make electronic transmission mandatory, that INEC was at liberty to choose which mode to use, what mode did INEC choose and told the world they’d chosen in the 2023 elections?

Yakubu himself, at Chatham House, told the world that INEC would transmit votes electronically IN REAL TIME.

Subsequent press statements and media engagements by INEC reinforced this message.

Even INEC guidelines for the election was tailored in that line.

Only for INEC to turnaround on Election Day and do something contrary to what they have chosen and you think they are still within their right?

Paraman:
INEC will explain to the court how the results were collated from the polling units to the ward, from the ward to the local government, from the local government to the state

Then the court will give judgement base on the fact that INEC was able to explain how they arrive at the results that were called.

Exactly!

But not just explanations alone. They would also bring every supporting documents and ballot papers that they used in arriving at a winner.

This current practice where you tell an aggrieved candidate to go and look for evidence to prove that an election was rigged is just wrong. And it is why INEC always has the audacity to misbehave and rig elections and go ahead to frustrate aggrieved candidates by denying them of the things they need to seek redress.

Currently, according to our laws, the burden of proof of any claim of election rigging rests on the candidate who is alleging. It follows in the legal doctrine of “he who alleges must prove.” But I think this is wrong.

It is wrong because after INEC declares anyone winner, the aggrieved candidate usually relies on INEC to get the materials he needs to prosecute his case. And from experience, INEC sometimes frustrates such candidates or deliberately distort those documents or withhold some. This much was visible in the case of Peter Obi at the Presidential Election Petition Tribunal.

But should the law be amended to shift the Burden of Prove to INEC, whenever any candidate is aggrieved and he approaches the court, the responsibility would rest on INEC to demonstrate and prove to the court how they arrived at the result they used in declaring the winner.

This is good because when INEC realizes that they would have to prove how they arrived at winners in over 1000 constituencies, they would be forced to be so transparent that losers would have little to no reason to approach the courts.

This is part of the reforms needed to sanitize our electoral process.

In addition, there should be be severe consequences for INEC officials, including the Chairman, if they fail to abide by the letters of the Electoral Act or any other regulations guiding the conduct of elections.

A situation where the Chairman of INEC will oversee a sham in the name of election, and walk away without consequences should be a thing of the past.

I propose a 20 years jail term for any INEC chairman who fails to supervise an election according to the dictates of the law.

Similarly, I propose 10 years jail term for any other official of INEC whose department experiences any lapse during election or any adhoc staff who is proven to have deviated from the guidelines guiding the conduct of elections.

It should be made in such a way that people will be running away from serving in INEC for fear of going to jail. But their pay should be made handsome as motivation for the job.

We cannot continue in the path we are going right now or vultures will succeed in taking over Nigeria.

Nigeria must and will be sanitized to work for all Nigerians and not a select and privileged few.

drlateef:
I think you are senseless busy body. The real issues regarding his certificate have been properly thrashed by BBC investigators. How has his statement at Chartam house got to do with authenticity of his certificate? How has his attendance at Government college affected his CSU certificate authenticity? The different slight errors in age records and the F as female have been put down to clerical errors which are common. Basically everything you stated here has no sense at all. BBC is right, you are wrong.

Did you say Clerical errors are common?

Please give instance(s) of anyone who has had similar issues with his or her certificate in Nigeria or anywhere in the world.

abibun:
Will they be making the importation with naira

No. They won’t import with Naira but they can now approach CBN for dollars instead of going to black market which was adding to the pressure on the black market and making value of dollar to skyrocket.

Lol!

So Yakubu is saying that PEPT was wrong when it said INEC was at liberty not to transmit?

Very shameless fools.

Supported by more brainless fools.

The law mandates transmission then why did you not transmit the Presidential election?

Ndi ala!

ozo13:
thanks for the article.But may I ask how Nigeria is crediting billion of dollars to the British treasury .It sounds illegal or may be u just share more light on it.It looks confusing how we are crediting their Treasury

I didn’t say “Nigeria”, I said “Nigerians”.

Do you know how much the UK Government makes from Nigerians applying for Visa of any category?

Google it and you will understand my claim better.

yemex04:
Why is BBC closing its eyes to other obvious questions begging for answers?

Well they(BBC)did mention contacting Tinubu or his aides for clarification on the supposed Questions but didn't get Response before the press time.

Again, the headline & the details of the reportage were in order in my Opinion.. They simply said "There is no Proof Tinubu forged his CSU Certificate" fact checking the whole Transcript of the Deposition, there is indeed no proof that he forged his certificate but instead, there is a substantial Proof by the Testimony of the Registrar that he attended & graduated from the School.. So by the deposition & their supposed findings they couldn't have said "there's a proof"

So they did a balance & non partisan report on the subject matter unlike what we have around..

Still they closed their eyes on other things.

And even the headline of their article is enough to summarize the hatchet job they were out to do.

Hope you are not trying to convince me that BBC is neutral here?

killsmith:
Thunder will not fire anybody.
Nigerians should take real action.
Personally I'll be boycotting the Premier league. I can't keep giving my hard-earned penny to these satanic criminals.

Football?🤔

Naaaah

killsmith:
The news from BBC was very insensitive. Taking Nigerians for fools.

That’s it right there…

They took us for a fool.

A case we followed and a deposition we read, they wanted to tell us that what we read is wrong and they are right.

Thunder fire them!

They’ve lost credibility forever as far as I’m concerned.

yemex04:
Penguin 2 it's been a while here, you are rarely seen or heard of here since after the PEPT Judgement, what's good nah?

Back to the Topic
Oya, start mobilizing your people to start boycotting anything BBC😁😂.. they are compromised.

On a more serious note, Courts or Authorites anywhere in the World will reckon with whatever the Official position of the CSU via its Registrar than any other Opinions.. anything aside theirs is a mere Speculation.. Imagine if CSU had affirmed your belleive that Tinubu never attended their School? Would you still have said the Man is prolly telling lies? You wouldn't have! So my Brother, tell yourself & others to eat the humble pie & accept that the Assumption that Tinubu never attended & graduated from CSU was just a misconception.. Follow the path of Kperogi. Thanks

Well, I’ve been maintaining a studied silence.

The PEPT judges went so low that even Tinubu supporters were dumbstruck. So, there was no need reacting to it.

I don’t know how conversant you are with our laws but you know if they things they said are upheld by the Supreme Court, we would be setting a very dangerous precedent for ourselves.

But I guess it’s all good since it serves Tinubu’s purpose.

About what you said about BBC’s reportage on Tinubu Diploma….

I totally agree with you that anyone reporting on the CSU case will report what the registrar said as the official position.

But my question still remains, was the authenticity of the Tinubu’s Diploma the only offshoot of the CSU certificate saga?

Why is BBC closing its eyes to other obvious questions begging for answers?

Isn’t that bias?

ALARAPE22:
You deserve to be nominated for best comment of the week. You have said it all. You owe me 1k.

I owe you 1k Abi na you owe me 🙄?

yoruboid:
Oya carry your incontrovertible facts to the Supreme Court and use it to upturn his Government. You guys are pained and your BP will rise

Relax, it’s gonna happen.

Watch as members of the estate will be instigated to come out and issue a statement that the chairman did not speak for them and they are very happy with the rice.

The next thing you will hear is that the man has been removed as chairman.

Then police will arrest him for embezzling estate funds in 2017😏.

The Ronu crooners will be here castigating the man for daring to speak against their lords and saviours.

Ndi ala!

Placing FX restrictions on these products was well intentioned but I guess other variables made it become unattainable for now.

The CBN is therefore right to lift the restriction for now so that the importers of those items will not be putting pressure in the black market which adds pressure to the Naira.

It’s an intricate situation really.

successmatters:
How much money dis Sullivan leave in their state coffers when he left?

And Oh, who is the current owner of the large plot of land carved out from the enugu legislative quarters now given to Spar and currently serving as a shopping plaza?

Night and day are different.

Don’t mind these jokers.

In fact, it was because of EFCC wanted to probe Sullivan’s government especially his involvement in the establishment of Spar and everything around it, that made him quickly defect to APC to which saw the probe stopped.

Not saying Sullivan wasn’t a good governor but he cannot be rated above Obi.

But the fools we are dealing with are just too biased and irrational to accept this simple truth.

Lumarstone:
Any thing said on BBC in defense of Tinubu's scandal is just the hand of APC Media team. They are very very strategic and financially equipped.

Not like I don’t know.

Just surprised that BBC could make their platform available for such thing.

It’s the lowest of lows such a platform can go.

yoruboid:
Based on your observation right?

Based on incontrovertible facts.

yoruboid:
If it pains you that much, go and start your news agency and write your own article and publish to a global audience

The BBC took its time, did a thorough investigation, contacted the school and have published their finds. You can publish yours

BTW, you are not a Supreme Court judge, neither is the BBC and they will rule on the matter based on facts before them and not your feelings

I’m not expecting any contrary reaction from you guys. That would be me deceiving myself.

But I ask you again, why did BBC ignore other observable discrepancies in Tinubu’s certificate to focus only on whether Diploma was forged or not?

Racoon:
Well said and articulate. Oil dey your head.

Thank you bro!

The ensuring that Tinubu doesn’t destroy everything left of Nigeria is a duty that must be performed.