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The way these people are going with their lies, they would soon come round to tell us the blueprint with which Lagos is working on for a greater stride is drafted by one Ugochukwu somewhere and not Tinubu. Just watch out for this propaganda soonest. The one ascribed to a dead man about this topic has been refuted by the family not quite long after it got circulated on the internet yet being filled with hate induced into them by their grandparents, and without making his findings, the Op here still cited the same post the deceased family condemned as an evidence. It seems to me they all are in one group telling themselves to rewrite history to their taste. Thank God, the Grammies, the Nobel Laurette are awards by external bodies otherwise they'd have said it was influenced. Even so, some morons among them still believed Chinue Achebe was better than Wole Shoyinka. That's how dumb they can get. I don't blame them though; who never wish to be better than he really is? |
SarkinYarki:Perhaps, you meant to say only a fool would say Lagos is not working. Pray, why do you think the state gets so populated? D'you understand the FCT whom the independent body(Shell) rated only underdeveloped would be thirty years next year as Fct; same years the Lagos(rated a city) used with the status? Why hadn't the latter stagnated while Abuja overtake with all the money pumped into its developments? Why are investors still trooping into Lagos enmass and not to your percieved state with good governance. Kindly remind me again which state has the most projects ongoing in the country... either in housing, roads, industry, services and improving policy? Y'all complain about the traffic gridlock all the time but you fail to think that the state has the least landmass even with all the acquisitions from the sea while it has the most population of humans and cars all over the state. The 2018 estimate done on the third mainland bridge shown there were about nine hundred thousand movement of automobiles going through the region everyday; now, tell me why the roads won't be overwhelmed. And come to think of it, the state provided a waterway means but the system is being ignored by the same populace who want succour. Benbellamor:Like they say, things can only get better. But sometimes, traffic congestion is the price you pay for being a nation's commercial hub; ask New York City, ask Osaka, Japan. Yet, it doesn't mean they are no more a city. Infact, the Lagos is even rated a city (YEAH, OVERPOPULATED) while the Abuja you're hyping is rated an underdeveloped urban center. Perhaps, you've got to grab your dictionary to see the difference. ENG0701:Thank you. Thay want to see a bottle filled but still want to turn the uncapped bottle over and not spill the content. Abuja has a landmass 2X bigger than Lagos yet has an estimated population half of Lagos and they expect to have the same scenario. Infact, I don't understand. Thank God they ain't the investors accessing the potentials of all these states hence even the Lekki Ftz and Ibeju Lekki new Alaro city has amassed tens of new investment into the country through the state. Yet, somebody's saying Lagos is not working. I don't jnow what else he'd wanted the government to do. and when the government focus on upgrading the slums they point at, many of them shout again saying they are being marginalized. |
aztec:Thanks for the info. Just don't know whether they think at all before citing samples. Imagine him call USA into Lagos situation as if the White House authorizes the place a business must be stationed in the country; as if if any business comes into USA today and plan to station its base in the New York, the White House would stop them. Is it Lagos fault that it provide magnetic business environment for investors much more than any other state? Would they have had a situation where investment rather opt for another country because the FG's poking nose in their place of choice? Or do they think big investment would suddenly go for an untrusted environment because the FG directed them to? That's why I cited the Airline example... they would rather have another country and not any other state other than the one they trust. Those guys are big time clowns, I beg. So, Lagos would suddenly allow FG to tell them where the business they courted should be situated; Lagos wouldn't even allow it go to Abuja let alone Potor Republic. If they want development, it's time they started earning it not sitting down to be fed. No, it's not happening! |
foleskay:The same bullshit all over again ? Since Abuja had been the federal capital which would equate the years lagos had as one (30 years) around next year, what happens to the Airport at least, if having no chance of a seaport can be excused? Why hasn't the Airport overtaking MMIA as the busiest? Even when officials messed up landing equipments a while ago at the Lagos MMIA, the airlines coming in would rather opt for Ghana instead of any in Nigeria... Abuja, Port Harcourt, Kano, none else? To them it was either Lagos or nothing. Is that another political jargons from the FG?How many times do we have to show you guys this Lagos was already doing fine long before the amalgamation of all the regions? Was that a help from FG too? Fine, you cite samples from the USA. But you fail to provide evidence where the USA mandated or forced companies to site their business in any other place other than their place(s) of choice. Point blank, even in the USA, New York is what it is today because of the presence of assortment of companies trusting and establishing in the state. Check your stat, the New York has the most concentration of commercial activities of all the states (mark this, BY FAR) in the USA and the much I know (and I stand to be corrected if you've got prove), the Tesla in San Fransisco, Ford in Ohio, Microsoft in Chicago, amidst others that stationed their headquarters away from the New York did so by choice and not by the authority of the White House. Remember these are private companies and they have their plans and aims. And how many companies had come out to say the FG mandated them to rather site their business in Lagos or beat it? Is it google that just came in? Is it Netflix? Are they the oil companies that left the Niger-Delta where they once had headquarters before relocating to Lagos owing to the incessant trouble from the clans? Or are they the new start-ups that sprung up taking the opportunities the state has to offer? Or did Innoson tell you the FG pressured him to rather site his plant in Lagos and not in the East? Or did BUA make the same claim over the sugar plant he's sited in Kwara state? If no, then, why is the bulls.hit of FG not decentralising Lagos? Ondo has port that the state government is courting investors to dredge, Ogun is building a mini-port around Itoikin by a private investor but the Easterns would rather put pressure on the FG to do this for their SS neighbour as if the Lagos seaport was not entirely functional before Nigeria or that the international Airports that they have functioning now is performing better than the MMIA despite having clamoured for it for years prior to having it. If you want a decongested Lagos, Onne port is there for you and is operational, so either go use it or shut the h.ell up whenever Lagos is mentioned. Enemy of Progress! |
MelesZenawi:Is that all you gat to say? Like really ![]() |
Like helinues had said, if the restructuring stuff is coming to reality, it's not going to be the Yorubas pulling the string; at least not now. Unless you care not to see the real picture on ground or you're just another tribe under the cloak of the Yorubas. Point blank, yorubas are right in the middle. If it breaks, good; if no one is bold to see it happen, fine. Yet, we won't be bully to submit our position; not through abuse, not through tantrums, not through FINGERING. The Yorubas are looking at the situation closely and monitoring our chances on both fronts, so they'll only take decision when they are entirely sure it's the only option left. We have interests and we have plans but like they say, you don't reveal your joker. It's a secret! Infact, I don't see any point in this opinion seeking, because no true yorubas would blab about our position or ask us to blindly tilt to a side 'cause such decision might come back to haunt. Remember, we have six zones. The answers lie hugely on what others agree to do not really what we want to do because our decision is clear. We stand in the middle. |
Good one from LASG. It may not be the best for now but trying to offer people-inclusive governance is a very good step and I, personally, commend you guys for that. We'll surely get there someday if we continue unrelented on this good path. Good bless Lagos State Government God bless the South Western states of Nigeria. God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria. |
helinues:Don't mind those guys... they can't stand the heat. Box him into a corner now and see him run off like a kid. Many a time, they would not reply their mention again if they realise you're ready for them. That's who they are... empty chest beating MelesZenawi:Quite fine that you know where the news can from and whose speech it was. But the Lagos-Ibadan news forgot to tell you the Yorubas ain't the ones agigating for that Biafra? Did the newscaster/speech presenter also remember to tell you what the Yorubas stand to gain pushing such propaganda for Biafra? Please, kindly lecture us on some of the benefits? Or perhaps, you think you're talking to kids? Unless you're one, which may not be far from the truth, I think some simple logic should have prevailed over the comment someone's make without evidence. You can always be a bigot, if you like but banter with sense. |
I sometimes wonder why some people think they are doing others favour sticking with them. Most time I see some certain people ranting that the Yorubas are afraid of division because "Lagos would lose its prestige should the Igbos break the country." Do these people think Alaba would suddenly no longer exist? Would the yorubas not invested in tradefair to keep it going after Nigeria? Ladipo, Computer village and Idumota et all already has good presence of the Yorubas (as well as above mentioned others and many others not included) and with buyers(customers) coming from even other countries so how come you think the markets would cease to exist because the entire country, not a certain tribe alone, split away? I beg to see the logic behind such irrational thought. Seeing how many of them lots are already saying it's one man for himself, I just have to beg them to enforce their politicians to get the Biafra for them. It's quite easy although it might take time. Lobby for allies among others, I'm sure the SS, the real south, ('cause SW is simply West, SE is simply East,) would readily partner if they go about their game right. They can then start by getting others in too from the middle belt/north-central with some certain promises of good bilateral relationship when the division comes to frition. Before they know it, they'd have gotten enough to win their way in the upper and lower chambers and thus effect a segregation without having to carry a gun, throw tantrums and blackmail. Let them do this and let everybody goes its way but one thing I won't condone is the feel you can blackmail others into giving you what you want. No! it doesn't work that way. It insults the humanity and logics of others to think you can fool them. Impossible. You can't force my hand to collect the equal right we share from me. You can only implore and befriend me to stand a chance. Basic! |
Troy404:First of, this is my first comment on this thread albeit having been following up with all the arguments for a while now and probably, it may be my last too. Like I said, I'd always been a ghost reader but sometimes, something can't just be overlooked. I'm a nigerian, you know. This project in question, remember, is a reclamation from the sea. To fill out such magnitude of land itself was time and resource(s) consuming. Goodness! that's a 25km^2 landmass you're looking there for crying out loud. It's got to contain quite much everything you need in a city, from health to business, recreation, tourism and entertainments. Yeah, NO STADIUM but you can't have stadiums everywhere since the entire city of Lagos had got many already and this is only a score or thereabout of kilometers away from the ongoing airport and/or seaport constructions in Lekki, so no need for those either. This is just a project like the New York City in the state of New York. And please, live up to your word and kindly show us a 25km^2 estate in any part of kenya you're boasting about either ongoing or completed. Let's learn new thing from you. |
SLAP44:I may not argue with you over the few harrassments that happened at the time but that was patently while the war was ongoing on the other side, check your record. It wasn't before. The war didn't broke out all of a sudden, there were arguments, threats and warnings from authourities from both parties and there were preparations. Ojokwu didn't create the Bank and money during the war, it was before; so there was time to move whatever was necessary hence the reason why I pointed that unless the person wasn't paying attention or decide not to see the reality f it coming when his people had already began making plans.. |
Smoke55:First of, how do you come up with the 60-70% stats? What's the source? And remind me how many rich folks of yoruba background you know in the whole of Nigeria aside from the usual... the Adeleke, the Lanre Shittu, the Adenuga, the Otedola, the Alakijas, the who else? Do you care to name three more? Perhaps, I hold on on this for your reply before we continue over this business penetration of the Yorubas. How are the yoruba scared of competition and who told you they don't travel? You know the reason why most local Fuji stars (Kwam 1, Abass Obesere, Ayuba, Pasuma, Osupa, Barrister -God bless his soul- and Kollington to name a few) frequented and did so many shows in the USA, CANADA, ITALY, GERMANY, UK, ABIDJAN, SPAIN, HOLLAND et all back in the days? It was because of the large concentration of yoruba population in all these areas and it has even improved in numbers today because many more had moved. That they don't often run into the net of the authourities to blow the reality of their existence in those countries out of the water doesn't mean they are not always there. And mind you, check all these markets and you'll find different tribes dominating different sections. The Idumota has some many sect of Yorubas in good proportion to challenge any other in Cutleries, Clothings and Fabrics, Shoes, Jewelries and Accessories, Provisions, Sauces and Spices, Watches and Clocks, Creams and Make-up kits, etc. In some (if not many) Yoruba dominated. Now, go round all tha markets on the Island and see how many yorubas are in wealth. Go to Adeniji, the Oke-Arins, the Balogun, the Idumota, the Ereko, the Tom Jones, the Docemo, Pedro Street, etc and see the numbers of yoruba in importation. Do you know the Ojo has many markets than just the Alaba? Is trade fair the only market aound the mile2- Festac axis? What about Owode Onirin and what about Mushin? Is it only Ladipo? And even though, the markets dominated among them has an unmistakable presence of yorubas in them so as the ones dominated by the yorubas has unmistakable presence of other tribes, not Igbos alone? So how come Yoruba are not competitive? You should do a thorough investigation into these market before you jump at your competition illusion and Abia-made statistics. Well, to respond to your conclusion, the yorubas also seek better opportunities like any other nationals all over the world so comfortability doesn't come into play here. At least, everybody has a target and you can't be comfortable until you meet your target. That's why the Chinese are her in the first place. They see oppoertunites in the land, and come around to tap into it. Kudos to the yorubas for creating such an atmosphere. |
SLAP44:What part of the Western region was active in the civil war? Till the war was over, was one a spot of the battle? Go read history and throw away the hate instil in you by the oral record of your parents/grandparents. Lagos was even hosting African cultural activities during the war (Festac66) and despite the war, the non-participants (Igbos) who stayed back in Lagos were not in any way threatened. Or is there a record, killing went on in Lagos too? My dear, the closest the war got to the west here was the Bini-Ore road and that was it. So, where was the bullet flying in the west? And for your information, this wasn't a sudden break-out. The civil war revved up for months with warnings and threats. It led to Ojukwu's train (Biafran army) making some arrangements in readiness, which include but not limited to the creation of the BANK OF BIAFRA, the creation of the Biafran dollars, the purchase of ammunitions and the calling back of all eastern indigenes. No war ever break out suddenly, unless you're not paying attention or failing to see the reality; it gives everyone a little time to take a decision before it blows open. Check all records! And Biafra/Nigeria civil war was not any different. |
darfay:Wow, the above comment of yours should be all thanks to 'the good' upbringing. Oh! lest I forget, if i'm a silly Yoruba boy, what does that make you with your unnecessary emotional rants? Hey, you've got to grow up whatever your age. it ain't doing you no good; not a bit. I rest here. |
EmekusTHEgreat:Do you care to expantiate on this? What about the many Abuja residents moving to Lagos? Of all the states in the nation including the FCT, which has often attracted more influx of incomers everyday? Even majority of the politicians who are the major driving force of the rich environments in Abuja still has their houses in Lagos if not all. I'm sure youn know Lagos is more than just the politicians, it houses so many rich across board whose main home and grand investment are stationed here? If we have to base our comparism on the percentage of indigenes of each state in another, there's no contest for Lagos stands at a very vantage point against any other; so don't bother to go there. |
darfay:Look through all my posts and you'll realise I don't trade insults. It doesn't just cut it for me as some good pointer for a good argument or a reliable arguer. But be as it may, I can still go ahead to give my mature response in respect to your post. We are sharing ideas and that's what matters. Besides, I ain't some of these eastern guys who run out of thread immediately they see they're being boxed to a corner. First off, it just ain't what you produce alone but how effective the revenue generated is/are being used. Nigeria is a big oil producing country but consider the state of the nation's development to, say, South African's, for example. In the same interest, Lagos has got more projects on ground, not just development, than each of all these oil producing states. However, does Makoko start and end with the sight at the seaside? What happens to the upper side of it, especially those close to Alagomeji? Worst slum in world? Could you produce the worst pix of Makoko (which is often of the seaside, of course) and I'll show you an even worse one from Port Harcourt? Pray, tell me where the bushes and farmlands are in Ajegunle. Ain't the roads in Ajegunle outlined? How do you compare that with villages with propably few roads inward, pathways into farmlands, abandoned areas of bushes and probably muddy roads on some other places? Tell yourself the truth, the Ajegunle and Makoko I mentioned would be a beauty if paired against many of those villages. Fact! Thank God, you easily omit the Bariga, and the Oworo I mentioned. That's a step forward. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks. |
fxdee:Don't mind that guy, Uyo would be an El Dorado and majority of their billionaires would be spending multi-millions on owning a house in the Lagos he was trying to condemn. He stated that apart from the Island, nothing is in Lagos until I made him see that the Omole, the Okota, the Festac, the Ikeja, the Yaba, the Magodo, the Ogudu, the Surulere are on the mainland and are quite better in term of development to whatever his Uyo may present. Even the slums in Lagos are better than most parts of Akwa Ibom state. Or can he compare Ajegunle, Makoko, Bariga, Orile, Oworo et all with all the villages in Akwa Ibom? These slums are regarded as such by the standard of the City of Lagos but are better than an average town in many other states. That's the basic truth. |
KingRabota:What part of Magodo are you living and feeling the stench? Why are people like this? Even the closer Ikosi ain't feeling no shit. You're the one that's trying to tribalised because you started it. Mind you, I put majority of the Nollywood movies because most village stuffs are being acted out of Lagos. Was being a slum the reason why Lagos is always considered among the top cities of the world when developments are being measured. Try to tell yourselves the truth, you're the ones being biased because at the end of the day, all the slums you might consider in Lagos is far better than most places in Akwa Ibom. Plain fact! |
KingRabota:Lagos is a massive slum, agreed but do you care why 80% of the entire nollywood movie are being acted there? Where have you visited in Lagos? Did this scenery beat the Stadium road at Iponri, Lagos? What about Ikeja, especially the Alausa, the Airport Road, Opebi, the Agidingbi et all? What about Yaba or do we have to say, the Ogudu environ? All these places are on the Mainland, have you been there? What about Magodo and the neighbouring Shangisha? Did these places beat the Festac if not for the construction that's going there now that's made the road inward a little rough? Have you heard of Omole Estates? What about Okota... does these places hold a candle to it? I don't want to go into the Island, that's why I stop here. Even though Lagos has its slums, it's not in the category of development as the entire Akwa Ibom. Some slums might be dirty like the Makoko, Bariga, Ajegunle, Orile and co, yet they are still way better than most places in Anambra, maybe save your Uyo for the development on ground and revenue generation. And we wait until we dig out Uyo properly. We hope by that time we don't find any dirt attach to a part. I rest my case. |
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bende7t:Too bad. But we'll survive, my brother. We'll always survive. |
Ardar:If Yoruba is one of the dumbest, what does that make the IGBO? You can tell yourselve the truth if you like or keep decieving yourselve, who cares? By the way, how you guys spread and milk that motherfvcker Kanu's lies all this while makes it an insult to the word dumbest if such is used for you. |
The topic need to be altered. The easing of the lockdown only come into play on Monday 4th. Don't spread misinformation. |
I think the way the president is going so far, the lockdown will be relaxed. How much? I don't know. |
Smithkafors:Sorry I COULDN'T RESPOND TO THIS EARLIER, it's down to some fault with my pc. But the links you posted seemed not to buy with your sentiments. Infact, it supported why I opened this thread. In the first one the CBN governor and his train of officials visited the facility and was amazed at how far and big the project had gone. So in his speech, the CBN governor pledged support because, as he said, a project of that magnitude and in that phase of completion should be in the focus and interest of the FG. Now consider that he wasn't there to see an empty site but an ongoing construction with some phases already completed even and it was because of the look of things on ground that made him asked the company if they'll need support for the FG would be ready to help seeing the position of things. Dangote wasn't the one who asked for support but Emefiele was the one who pledged; and unlike Innoson, he had been constructing his project with focus on so many interests than just the Nigerian society. The second link saw Emefiele said it might be probable in future that the nation might be reduced to source their forex FROM the Dangote's group and not the other way round. Go back and read the content of your link properly. Although in the course of the article, it was stated that the FG was ready to help with every Naira should in case its assistance is needed. THe Dangote group had to thank the CBN governor and rather asked for the support he got with the Cement factory that had make the production self sufficient and another point of export. Here, what we should rather ask ourselves is the support he got with the Cement factory. Perhaps, you know it's a favourable policy. He was just asking of an environment that wouldn't destabilise his plan over the project. How is that too much of a asking? Remember this guy already had his targets in mind which are not primarily Nigerians but the SOUTH AMERICANS, ASIANS, EUROPEANS and the NORTH, CENTRAL AND WEST AFRICANS hence the construction of the refinery facility to meet the standard of the World requirements. It's even there in your links, all you need is just go through them. So how's he like Innoson? It was the CBN who wanted to help but the Dangote is self sufficient. Early this year or thereabout, the Dangote group had even went on to sell bonds in the UK stock to power/fund the Cement factory that was suffering due to the focus on the refinery. He even planned on crashing into the US stock too before the Covid19 saga hence I couldn't get more of the story. Please, Dangote and Innoson ain't mate. Them being in the same sentence is an insult to the billionaire Kano indigene. Read through your links carefully and you will realised it's in support of my observation. Thank you. |
ceaser:Amen. May God bless you too. |
I've always said even the most educated of these guys still exude ignorance. They are just so blinded by hate, jealousy and lies so much so that they fail to think straight. Now look at another chest-beating and propaganda. They just can't stand the name Awolowo and the greatness of the man for the treatment he gave them during the war and the way he put the Zik in his place when the latter tried to stake a claim to western (Nigeria) politics. If they have their way, they'd erased the name (Awolowo) from history entirely but unfortunately for them, the record is eternal. They can only peddle fake news attached to dead man like this to massage their ego. Long live Awolowo legacy Long live the Yoruba kingdom Long live all South-West States. |
Dobson43:It's never too late to try. What should be the problem is not making effort; whosoever is making effort to right some situations should be encouraged and commended. |
Kudos to the Yoruba nairalanders and every indigene of south-west states in the country and beyond: your comments so far is an indication of greater days ahead. How everyone of us has come out with one voice to condemn atrocities this man committed without being emotional and sentimental with tribalistic tendencies is a big thumb up. WE NEED TO KEEP THIS UP. |
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? Since Abuja had been the federal capital which would equate the years lagos had as one (30 years) around next year, what happens to the Airport at least, if having no chance of a seaport can be excused? Why hasn't the Airport overtaking MMIA as the busiest? Even when officials messed up landing equipments a while ago at the Lagos MMIA, the airlines coming in would rather opt for Ghana instead of any in Nigeria... Abuja, Port Harcourt, Kano, none else? To them it was either Lagos or nothing. Is that another political jargons from the FG?