₦airaland Forum

Bjergtrolde:
Yes I agree half knowledge is bad.
Use google , its your friend. Everyone who gets to an Accident and Emergency Department should get triaged. That is how you determine who gets seen immediately and who can wait and who you can ask to get out of your department. Go read it up

Now let me school you. An accident an emergency department is not a bus. You do not take a certain number of passengers and shout shop and drive a way. It is the common access to a hospital. "We do not have space" is not an option.
Emergency Department is like a post office sorting office, you sort patients by specialty and dispatch those that need transfer to wards or for discharge, you stabilise and resuscitate those that need it. ( these are a minority of patients as majority are walking wounded).

Now when someone comes in, you triage and based on severity of new admission, you go and reassess those already admitted and prioritize your resources for use by the ill ones.

Finally, you were not discerning enough to see that I was responding to the garbage spewed by Bushdoc9919. Go read it.

You need to take a back seat on this topic,
You obviously have zero clue of the daily workings of the Nigerian Hospital.That same bed space on the wards have other equally severe cases waiting to be admitted.

No bed space is no bed space sad but that's it.You do not take responsibilty for a case you do not have resource or ability to manage no matter how emotional it gets, you stabilize if u can and refer.

Nigerian tertiary centers are overwhelmed, the no bed space matter has been recurring since and still no new hospitals, I'm a Dr in Nigeria and with my "connections" I have had 3 critical close patients rejected for no bed space in Nigeria I understand I move on quickly to find alternative centers for care.

Nigeria needs more tertiary centers perhaps we should just break it down to more hospital bed space for patients.

An opportunity to look critically at the health system and proved solutions... No its health worker bashing first.Makes us all feel good I guess till the next one happens.

Tertiary hospitals in Nigeria are not enough hence they are overwhelmed.

A quick thought.We do realize majority of theses hospitals we boast of were colonial period projects, meaning they were made to cater to the population then how many new tertiary centers have we put together in our states since then?

No bed space means a lot.It means the theatres may be fully booked as well major and minor.Anyone in Nigeria tertiary system knows surgery booking list can be as long as 2 yes for this reason and all sorts of emergencies keep the emergency section full as well.

I agree the nurses could have stabilized, give IV fluids and blood perhaps called the Doctors to attend to her on the "couch" or floor as was suggested till some reprieve and way forward was found but for how long do we want to continue that.

Engaging the leadership in dialogue is the way forward, and the people must do so with a clear understanding that the Doctor is not obligated to do beyond the scope of his calling.

Meaning a sane medic in a sane soceity will not accept to manage an emergency patient such as tgis on the floor totally not acceptable.

And we complain foreigners treat our people badly, this is precedence been set.

This is definitely not a dignifying way to respond to lateness amongst supposed professionals.

Fayose is a tout, Ekiti people are grovelling cowards with a massive inferiority complex, lack decorum and I suspect dignity.All infered from this picture.You see they watched as these people were debased and did nothing.

Fashola tackled lateness in Lagos we saw no pictures of people grovelling and kneeling, grown adults for that matter.

And we expect people to treat others better with dignity the hallmark of a civilized society , this kind of rubbish and Ill treatment will continue to trickle down in Ekiti mark my words....their tout of a leader as set the pace.

Dr Bashing.... Nigerians favourite.

Its unfortunate the practising ones been sacrificed on the altar of public opinion rarely use social media hence do not defend themselves ,the confidentiality clause also restricts them from proferring their sides of the story NMA really has to address that.

Now my contribution to this case and a few others and I'll say it as it is....

No's 1,that grieving patients lie.

Whether from the denial stage of grief, to the anger stage or watever other personnal vendata ish reason they ave, most Nigerian patients with all this horrid stories ave grief tainted tales hence it common sense that it cannot in any way be accurate. Same as a lie.

No's 2 , if you're not a health practitioner you should take a chill pill till you have the full facts.Because u can be certain there's so much at stake in the final decisions affecting life/ death in every case and till we've scrutinized them closely this shaming and blaming of health workers is plain irresponsible,unproductive behaviour that makes the nation loose confidence in its health system instead of addressing it to make it better,it also leaves bitter health workers who simply dump their sthetescope and hike.

Now 3,that every health system that's strong came from a place as bad and sometimes worse than ours that strengthening a system involves taking a critical look at why and how we make it better not demonizing workers.

Now 4, that this seeming harmless bashing is having its repercurssions ,young doctors are leaving by droves.who wants to practice where ure underpaid,devalued abused and vilified.

That said.... Nobody transfuses at 27% except under very very rare circumstances,that an exchange blood transfusion is required in jaundice with high values which the baby that died probably had,that no bed space is a norm in Nigeria.I have had to refer as far as uch ibadan once instead of parambolating Lagos for space,that every doctor has given beyond his call of duty in Nigeria, yes every doctor .we are trained to do so and the system is run with a no excuses manner, that's the only reason we get results ingenuity beyond the call of duty, extra hrs ,working outside our jurisdiction, and yes we give our money all the time ( would u watch a child die because parents can't afford 500 or 2000 naira antibiotics?,or fever continue unabated because no pcm of 100 naira, or refuse to give iv drugs cos no canulla)that sometimes centers dont have methylated spirits and basic necesities from no funding ,hence asking for a functional ambulance is certain places is OYO, that most hospitals we still glorify were build in the 1960's for that era and standard and we have not added enough to cater to our growing population, hence no bedspace....I could go on.....

And that's a few of the truths in the industry.that the community should engage the system at the level of productive dialogue asking, what are the problems how do we make it better rather than this unproductive bashing that achieves nothing.

notoriousbabe:
I agree with you,so if the passengers are punished by NCAA what should be done to the airline bearing in mind that this wasn't their 1st,2nd nor 3rd time of doing such a thing? There are times people are pushed to the wall and when that happens,they are bound to react #teambeatdemall

Actually nothing, I repeat absolutely nothing will happen to those airlines till anyone, even if its just 1 of those passengers file an official compliant.Its like you slap someone on the road,if he doesn't press charges sure free to walk and that here is the problem Nigerians did not press charges instead they decided to get violent and became the wrong ones.

I'll cite an example with Ghanian passengers,if there flights get delayed the airline is obliged to provide food and drinks then accommodation under certain circumstances.they know their rights and they go to the right desk and report asap and get the matters redressed.its like efcc if no one presses charges they can't come investigating.....

Transpose here we hiss shout rudely stand on the tramac and now vandalise properties, no complaints registered so nothing done to the airlines.

That said its important I point out I have no affiliation to NCAA but I can defend them cos I got the mail on guidelines, regulations and processes on passengers rights 2ce and I don't travel so often so I assume every single person on that flight that as ever travelled by air in Nigeria before that incident got the memo...

So what more do passengers want?

Bollinger:
Good luck with that. You are preaching to a mob. They don't care that there are other means of solving a problem. Their base instincts kicks in anytime there is a problem because that is all they have ever known. And they want change, forgetting that change comes from each individual. I used to think Republicans were crazy; not anymore.

I am not preaching to a mob,I am preaching to any relevant authority out there reading this,that precedence has been set in reckless conduct by passengers at Nigerian airports without regard to the rule of law, and the safety of our airports.

A man reportedly stood on the tarmac recently stopping a plane from taking off, another group of disgruntled miscreants attempted to enter the pilots cockpit(they could have been charged with attempted highjacking of a plane and banned from flying in Nigeria at least) and now this.

This time blood was spilled.Ignorance of the law is not an excuse, because you see there are processes already instituted to protect passengers from all this but Nigerians don't make use of those channels.

So I hope someone, anyone uses the CCTV to address this matter and bring the perpetuators of this act to book.their judgement must be broadcasted to serve as deterrent to others in future.

If this report is true the perpetuators of that ugly situation should all be picked and prosecuted,assuming the CCTV camera is working.

NCAA sent out a memo to passengers on what constitutes an offence by the airlines and the proper way to address it.

The passengers could have reported to NCAA at the airport,they could have sued aero they had other options to manage this but resorted to violence at an airport.... they should be picked to set examples.

Do we have official speech writers at all? I doubt it.

Tanoids displaying classic stockholms syndrome,that's the one where the abused is sympathethic and loves his abuser and takes his plight as normal....

A leader is meant to serve,a good leader must be Humble as Ameachi as demonstrated.That's How to lead especially in a democracy,its not have your "master" Lord it over you as though in a feudal system where you worship the Leader and call him Lord etc.

Anyone can do a google search to show the same british pm riding a train,carrying his own bag etc,you all see nothing wrong with that but find this odd? Stockholms syndrome.

Just so Haters know this picture is actually a good example.

My recomendations for the military,its not everything that requires force and bullying to achieve when it comes to dealing with the "civillians"...

On the media/PR war,the appear to be doing not so well,and it stems from a lot of proir passive aggression against them by the populace not getting expression,

However this can be demoralizing at a time like this as this is the time the military needs the support of the people its men are dying for.

I'll recomend the military PR department start a project to launder the image of the nigerian military at home and abroad,america went as far as creating captain america during the war,PR and media has always been a tool that's developed u just don't sit on ur oars and hope for good press,nd with the advent of social media it becomes a more detailed task.I would ave expected pple employed to raise topics on this very nairaland and pass pro military comments on them with the dedication some have to buhari andMr President,sponsored adds on blogs,support the military events and things of that nature,its a diff war,itsd more subtle and its deff not about who has the loudest shouting voice,its who has the better strategy.

Kudos to the Men of the military,a lot of Nigerians Salute you all at this time.I salute you all too,Long Live the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

The word "slaughtered" as used here is inhumane,

Animals are slaughtered,the word reduces the gravity of the event.

Humans are Murdered,which is a serious crime in certain climes punishable by death.

juman:
The police cannot arrest governors.

But you know ogun governor sometimes behave someway surprising (trouble making).

Let him go and arrest Fayose first,they think the immunity clause is a joke,but then this is Nigeria,he got away with harrasing the speaker didn't he?

Arrest a Governor,did he really say this?

Does he have any knowledgeof the constitution he swore to protect?

They ave immunity,like it or not,they cannot be arrested.the constitution is written to put tyrants like this in check.

Let's paint the picture clearer so you get it,

Let's assume Mrs Patience Ebele jonathan calls for Donations for the noble cause of safeguarding and feeding 3 million internally displaced persons at this time how much will she be able to muster?(the 4b request from the senate for banquet hall/house to host visiting first ladies quickly comes to mind) and who are those who will donate?

Assume again Mrs Buhari makes this call for donations to this worthy cause,u know if I knew when she made this arrangement me sef would have donated to her cause,bring zahra to make the request and my donation will triple.

These are good people,that have shown leadership in crises to a worthy cause,this is what a first Lady does,she leads by example,not endorsing candidates all over the place,

To all beefers of this woman on account of this good deed,like the op who called her evil, Abeg park well,(May haters of this noble deed not get help in their own time of need say amen! Why are u quiet now,mumu)

I believe a lot of people read this pages,so I'll put this suggestion here.

We need a special unit/force for kidnapp cases in Nigeria.Presently Nigeria has 1 of the highest kidnap cases in the world,and the truth remains that statistic was based on reported cases,we know most families don't report but negotiate and pay the ransomes quietly.So the true picture would may place us as the highest kidnap zone in the world....

Its time we had an office/ agency specially kitted,funded and run for kidnap cases only,I'm sure should an office like that request for volunteers pple would turn up to work for them for free so manpower wouldn't be a problem.

But to sit and hope the same innefective police would somehow be equipped to serve this prpose overnight is asking for too much,its refusing to place value on the life of our citizens especially the most vulnerable,children and women and laslty if we can do it with the NDDC why can't we do it for kidnappings that has become so rife in the nation.

Onegai:
@phineas if you all are sooo wonderful, why is it that any serious doctor will tell you to go to Mecure (a lab run by Indians and staff with specialists) to do basic ultrasoundd? Why not Lagos Island, Massey, LUTH (where if they're not on strike, it's another kasala). Trauma care you guys are bad at, you're quoting your textbooks for me. Admit it that you are all in need to extensive training, stop defending the inexcusable. Nigerians are so prayerful because they have very little trust in their doctors.
Why not take a hard look at your profession and your colleague and ask "even if we had the equipment, will we stand shoulder to shoulder with our international colleagues?"
I do not rate young doctors in Nigeria very highly, the rot in the Education system affected you guys more than the older generation. You are not the only ones, it is the same issue I see with Engineers, Architects and other professionals. I am part of that group and I know my handicap and I don't blindly defend my colleagues because I am honest, even if I went online and read past my syllabus, I would still be unaware of things my international colleagues are aware of.
A nurse at LUTH said she wasn't aware pregnant women were meant to avoid Vit A (due to excess Retinol), that she has never heard that before. Another said (a while back) that a pregnant woman is not supposed to treat Malaria during pregnancy.


Let us be honest, the system needs an overhaul. I don't have to be a doctor to know this.

I was waiting for your rejoinder and I am not surprised,2 things:

Firstly I cannot and will not discuss the issues and challenges of this profession with an untrained mediocre. It will be like discussing physics with someone in crèche with the antecedent hair pulling and name calling too, or trying to explain economics to an IQ below 70. I hope You understand me clearly..

2ndly bring one of those your esteemed consultants (who by the way are my colleagues) to read your write up so far and comments on this thread.If they are open and have the time for an online discussion to corroborate your opinions so far,Then we may be able to achieve some measure of progress.

That will be all (till then)

(and in case you missed it) this post means I'll leave your foolishness for anyone reading comments and enlightened on this things to decipher....

Onegai:
You have precisely 3 Neurosurgeons in Nigeria. In GH Lagos Island, doctors can't do PCR test (so when Ebola came, all Lagos doctors were scared, those that trained in Uniben even more so, because no-one had taught them how to do the test, even though Edo state has the most experience with Haemoraghic fevers).
Nurses from School of Nursing nowadays are taught a lot of Theory and little practicals. And most are not very good.
The machines at LUTH are so outdated, CT scan machine either caught on fire (last year) or they will take light. Same with Endoscopy at GH Lagos Island, no-one knows how to use the machine.
It isn't just equipment that is your problem in the Nigerian medical field. Most of you are badly trained (I have had doctors prescribe Cimetidine at a child's dosage, when I was in my 20s, I've had doctors declare I had Cerebral Malaria, when it is more common in children and young adults, I have had doctors treat me for all sorts, doubling anti-biotics without being able to write a clear referral, suspecting I had PID without a single test to rule it out etc). I have seen a doctor take out a clean appendix because the patient was constipated, I have seen doctors not accurately know that a patient with the right symptoms and age was having mini-strokes, they kept prescribing painkiller upon painkiller. I saw doctors who didn't know how to do examinations on the pelvis of a patient who had been treated a year ago for fibroids and was having pelvic pain be prescribed so much Diclofenac Sodium she OD'ed and they didn't know how to do charcoal activation to clear her bloodstream and could merely put her on drip, I have seen a patient die of a thyroid sugery that is a one-day affair in US on a Nigerian hospital, last week someone broke his arm and was taken to Igbobi, this week he died of an infection. I have seen asthma treated as malaria and they doctors treating the patient didn't know how to use the nebuliser the patient's parents brought. The patient's parents then had to donate 5 second-hand ones to the hospital, so that mistake never happened to another child.
You guys have to be trained properly. I'm speaking because I personally, off the top of my head, can count 2 Consultant Pediatricians, One Dermatologist, 1 consultant Gynaecologist, One Surgeon, 1 Neurosurgeon, I can't remember the last 2 what they studied and all of them either taught at LUTH or worked at UCH, Uniben, GH or another major teaching hospital.
None of them think half the doctors in Nigeria should be practicing, half of them think most of the teaching hospitals should lose their license to train certain fields of study (like Surgery in Medilag). All of them wonder why their colleagues don't further their education. Most of them don't trust their valuable patients to nurses (when one had a patient who needed to be monitored overnight for internal bleeding and his wound drained, he told doctors to do it and forbade nurses close to the patient).
I am sorry, but I really feel that firstly no doctors should be allowed to graduate, and massive enforced training for all doctors should be done for 5 years, overhaul all the medical schools, with upgraded equipment. Yearly testing of doctors should commence for another 5 years. We need a govt that should assume we have no doctors in Nigeria and place the country under a National Medical Emergency so we take drastic measures.
It is so bad that none of my family members will be allowed even in the smallest surgery in Nigeria, not even childbirth is an option in the nicest private hospital in Nigeria. I have doctors in my family and when they hear you're pregnant, will ask you when you're flying out to have the baby because they have lost confidence in 70% of their own colleagues.
And that is a shame.

You believe you're knowledgeable about the Nigerian health System, you are not.Not about the state of service delivery and definitely not about the personnel. To adequately criticize the system you have to be within or have been within the system.

1stly Nigeria has at more than 11 trained neurosurgeons working in Nigeria not 3, and more qualify every year after 7 years of intensive postgraduate training working round the clock literarily.A medic treating asthma as malaria are u kidding with all the obvious breathlessness wheezing and other tell tale signs? as well as the fact that the patient is a known asthmatic? tell me they misdiagnosed cystic fibrosis, or an ailment not commonly seen here, and I'll believe you write with no malice but asthma?

someone overdosed on Diclofenac and your first thought Sir/Ma in Nigeria was activated charcoal in Nigeria, really? Like what are your primary concerns, Gastric mucosal ulceration with bleeding, an acidosis and renal damage perhaps amongst others and to buttress the fact you have zero clue of the Nigerian health system, your first point of concern was finding activated charcoal? where have u ever seen activated charcoal in Nigeria, remember its taken this person a while to be discovered and to reach the hospital.

On their inability to do a PCR (hope you are aware most of the lab strengthening in Nigeria for PCR was done via foreign organization donations? they are meager like a few per state and definitely not within the jurisdiction of the Clinical Dr's in Nigeria, they are not doing PCR yet "the others" are shouting "stealing" of roles .

An appendectomy for constipation, we've established you're kidding right? and Lastly, Please tell me the gold standard for diagnosing a pelvic inflammatory disease and how many Nigerians consent to that with the risk of a negative result and we'll come back and discuss why you probably had just blood tests and Vaginal swabs with an abdominal scan before a diagnosis of pid was made.
My point your post was designed with malice to give a dog a bad name and you Sir/Ma are in no position to judge the system, you see you are not trained enough to cast that stone, you should find one corner and do your pity party with your other family members.

back to the topic

Dr Bashing, Naija's favorite past time.Is the practice here without flaws, no, but then I hope we are all aware one of the top leading causes of death in the US is medical error from prescriptions, yes Google that, you see they discovered tired Doctors made life threatening errors(Yes even in the hallowed US) the systems response to that was to reduce the hours their doctors (residents) work to not more than 48-72 hours per week. No system you see is without its flaws and if you will criticize, please do it objectively and truthfully.

I"ll not bother typing out the problems in the Nigerian Health sector seeing its not the topic here but I'll discuss LASUTH. The personel (medics,nurses etc) patient ratio is alarming. The staff there are ill equipped and overworked, LASUTH almost never has bed spaces for new emergencies not willing to wait for this reasons, and that's all I'll say.

As for this case, they should consider suing the Apollo Hospital and other Indian hospitals involved in issuing such unguarded statements,its not the first,its starting to be a habit.Its a calculated effort to win over naïve Nigerian patients,which if the referral letter truly carried the LASUTH Letterhead the relatives should be sued for fraud shikena. Yes its possible the wound was infected and they did not carry the relatives along on management and please what bite wound does not get infected, its a dirty wound for crying out loud and one of the aims of management is to control and treat an infection in it, I can assure you there's no Nigerian nurse that will dress a wound five times a day in Nigeria's teaching hospital with the ratio of like 1 nurse to 20 patients sometimes. if you like write it as such the best you can hope for is to send your registrar's or house officers to dress twice daily, after "begging" the nurses to dress at least thrice daily. Add that to the fact that there is no accountability should the Nurse refuse to follow the orders or she dresses just once (which is why you send your interns)and the fact that Nigerian hospitals where on strike forty percent of the time last year you start to get the true picture in a case like this

Nigeria has equally seen lots of mismanagement cases by Indian and foreign hospitals, you don't see anyone crying spilt milk on Indian hospitals/colleagues and for those who don't know its one of the codes of practice in medicine.Lots of cases diagnosed here were said to be wrong including cancers which turned out to be right, Dora comes to mind and I've seen other examples with CA that is.

Now For Nigerians: your medical teams nurses, Drs etc work round the clock with remunerations, settings and systems foreigners cannot imagine and definitely not produce results with, they work unrealistic hours at the cost of personal health, family and work life balance.We really should not pull them down but ask sincerely what are the problems, how can we help fix this. If we refuse to do that, the exceptionally good ones and the ok ones with any dignity left will leave, its happening already and its Nigerians that will reap the consequences with time.

All this kids on nairaland,so with all the topical issues raging in the nation its Buhari's certificate that's the matter arising.

Nonsense Smear campaign from brats not worthy of carrying the generals shoe.

"At least Ssce" was the requirement? He has provided unrefutable proof that he has attained academic and professional excellence in his field beyond the ssce.hey jobless youth give that a thought,Undisputed professional excellence.

Cmmon @ seun pls ban this hateful comments now,there's something like responsible use of social media,you def can do something about it.

This is international relations matter too,a culture is been formed on the very pages of this ur platform,

Please wield ur powers carefully and for good,Thank you..

Does anyone have a copy of this report,its wrong to criticize what you have not seen/read really.

I don't know who is worse the camera men suggesting those poses or the people that actually agreed to them.Nothing cool about this pictures,I'll caption them money can't buy class.(The bridal train ones,and the sooo tight dress pix)

I sincerely hope they are not from nigeria,hopefully some hidden village in another african country....

@ seun

Pls threads like this should have its comments censored,This is why people don't report Rape,

This platform should not be an enabling factor for bashing this lady and any person accused of rape,its a sensitive topic,let the courts do their job

This post promotes doctor Bashing,something nigerians love,typical pull him down syndrome and our habit of playing the victim in every situation and refusing to take responsibilty.

So the poorly Paid overworked Nurse actually did her weight, Bp and other vitals? The Dr patiently takes a history of her illness,thereby excluding all other possiblity including a "brain tumour from Fever" she fears probably caused in this part of the world from TB,or HIV which may have given her a "cough" or other symptoms he actually took time to rule out despite his obviously overworked state and her poor attitude whilst the same person in this facility apparently dispenses medications and all he gets his more attitude and Insults.
Till she disposed of her meds

This article is more than sarcasm,its a Nigerian attitude,If your Dr Diagnosis malaria,nothing stops you from getting a second or Third opinion,but this culture of shaming Dr's and Nurses by people who aren't trained is classic inferiority complex that stems from an unjustified sense of adequacy...

To buttress my point,are examples, a man comes in with eye problems,the Dr Diagnosis an advanced brain tumour and recomends surgery,the relatives go around screaming ignorantly he came in with only eye problems o and they wanted to do surgery,we dismiss it to the anger stage of grief, a child with very high respiratory rate,u ask them not to feed orally explaining fear of aspiration,they say don't mind them they ave come again,child is eating well,they feed the baby aspirates ,dies u hear he only had pneumonia o... ,next you hear of assault to the health workers,one even drew a gun over matters they are not trained to judge,and it gets worse they shot practitioners who explained there was no space in the morgue, no sentence followed,In nigeria examples abound.

its more than grief now,ItS becoming a culture in Nigeria,of disrespect to the profession that gives so much despite its handicap,and those who still have any sense of decency would do well to condem this trend..

May God bless the people's General.
For a Buhari Thread I will Log in and post a positive comment,
Its the least I can do in Honour of his patriotism to the Land.

May Your service not go unrewarded,
In heaven and on Earth.

The Ekiti State Governor has actually accepted the unconstitutional decision,it is left for the speaker to take the matter to the court of law and knowing how slow the process ussually is, Knowing it will first be addressed at the court of appeal and later the supreme court.

This scenarios are an abuse of the system,one that became rampant only in our recent history (minority votes overthrowing the majority)seeing how it had not been addressed in the past,no group of persons prosecuted for it,led to its appearance again on the national stage ,well planned,well executed,Police gates ,teargass and all...... What they did not count on/for was the determination of the "other lawmakers" not to allow this evil go unchallenged immediately this time.

I Heard all sides and diverse arguments on the matter of Tambuwal and Co versus the IGP / "the codes of acceptable conduct in soceity",I believe we are yet to address the real matters arising,which are

-some members allowed in and seated and others locked out and what was the intention of those seated?

-we all would agree that whatever ruling those seated while other members where locked out would have been ilegal,but we have seen this happen time and again in Nigeria,with those decisions upheld.

with this thread we may be able to identify in our recent political history cases where minority votes in state house of reps where allowed to stand.

So I'll start by quoting the case of Ekiti State this last week,where 7votes out of 25 was upheld as sufficient to impeach their Speaker of the house with the Present Governor already accepting the outcome of this illegal action

2ndly "the September 6, 2010 impeachment of the Speaker and the Deputy Speaker of the Ogun State House of Assembly and suspension of 15 members of the House, including the impeached Speaker, by only nine (9) members of the 26-member House

llegal impeachment of Governor Joshua Dariye on November 6, 2006 by a six-member faction of the 24-member Plateau State House of Assembly

I believe there where more of instances like this in various state House of assembly in Nigeria (I hope nairalanders who remember this incidences can please cite this examples) however the point remains this incidence at National Level is not a new affair in our nation,the reps where wise enough to identify that and I believe whatever actions they took in their resolution of that matter was obviously targetted at proctecting the shards of our fragile democracy.

Wat post is he about to contest for?

Raiders:
I feel really sad for your comment because you are a man that reason like a female. Our generation is different from that of our grandparents where the man work and the wife stay at home to raise the kids. The economy situation in Nigeria is different from that of our parents and it now require both couple to work so as to keep the family financial situation good. More women attend school and get good jobs unlike in the past. In a modern African home, it is now require both the spouse to help pay the family bills. Its no longer the sole responsibility of the husband to pay all the family bills. No man wants to marry a wife that will spend all day watching dstv. Women should also work and help with the home finances too. The days of our grandparents is over and we are in a mordern society.

Actually nothing has changed,in the era of this grandparents,women worked and had income,they were farmers,nurses,teachers and artisans,women made and kept their income,which was how they could singlehandedly send many of their children to school in a polygamous setting,it was not dependent on the man.

Why is this generation of men trying to shirk responsibilty is what I don't get.Some Nigerian men of today ask women to bring all their income,this much I'm sure of.I repeat nothing protects this women when his relatives or second wives come calling in the future,or when he excercises his african right and sends her packing out of his house.this is why what obtains abroad cannot be set as the yardstick for nigeria...the women should always remember this.

And for the men, Don't get married if you can't afford to simple.and definately don't start demanding a womans income to assist you make ends meet,its inexscusable in africa.

I'm passionate about topics like this because I detest injustice,and by virtue of my profession have seen a lot of women with issues such as this.

To prevent abuse and ensure responsibilty each spouse may bring a percentage of their income to run family expenses,say 50percent each or whatever suits their fancy.so if the man earns way less than the woman,he must still drop that meagre amount that forms the percentage,That's his contribution that's what makes him responsible.But to ask a woman to drop all her income on the table,must be a temporary arrangement and must be a request not an order.demanding for ALL in any other form whether she is a spendthrift or whatever reason is criminal.

A man like that is a lazy thieving opportunist sponging of the woman.He needs to get real and find work that will bring in more income and please let's all not endorse this wrong on this pages,pple who practice this evil are here seeking validation

We must as a society speak out and condem with one voice practices such as this that has impoverished families and women for generations.This issue is as real as it gets in our society.

I repeat a woman MUST again MUST have a seperate savings for the rainy day.

authority2006:
Yoruba culture and some religion sects, really? Liar!

I ussually don't quote to reply posts but for yours I'll make an exception.

It is common,very common that some yoruba women bring their earnings at the end of the month ,kneel and put it on the table infront of their husbands who decides how the money is distributed/spent,he can keep it all if he wishes,just like she kneels to serve his food etc.

It is a primitive culture certain sects or religious bodies actually still promote.

At the end the woman is ussualy exploited and taken advantage of.

That said,there is no reason whatsoever for a man to demand for his wives salary save in the form of a loan,and that's a request she's free to decline.

Men who demand money from women as a right by virtue of marriage are freeloaders women would be wise to avoid in courtship.

If he demands for money while dating you,run! A man must be able to clean up his own mess,not use u,such a man is an opportunist at best.