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Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel's PM Concedes Defeat, Congratulates Netanyahu, Wishes Him Success by Phraences: 7:42am On Nov 04, 2022

Odingo1:
African man, Netanyahu will finish and hand over to another person and nothing will happen. Nigerians too like superstition and fairly tales without thinking on how their country will be developed.

Do good things on earth and bother less about superstories.

Gbam!! We need to focus on how to make our world a better place not all these end time and rapture stories and fasting and prayers. That's why Africa is where it is.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel's PM Concedes Defeat, Congratulates Netanyahu, Wishes Him Success by Phraences: 7:29am On Nov 04, 2022

I prefer Israel to be the 'Powerful Oppressor' than Palestine abeg. No more ISIS and Taliban controlled nations abeg....

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Crime › Kidnapped, Walked Barefoot For Six Hours And Slept Close To Decomposed Bodies by Phraences(op): 6:49am On Nov 04, 2022

Victim’s experience

A 22-year-old student of the Moshood Abiola Polytechnic (MAPOLY, Aminat Taiwo, who recently regained her freedom from kidnappers has narrated how she and other kidnapped victims walked from the Lagos Ibadan Expressway, Adjacent Dominion University where they were abducted for over six hours without shoes into the forest where they were camped, with serious beating.

The victim was abducted alongside her friend, Oluwatobi Orekoya, in a commercial bus they were travelling in to Ibadan, the Oyo State Capital to honour another friend who was getting married on October 29, they left Abeokuta on Friday. The distraught victim whose body was full of mosquito bites and marks of beating, told our correspondent that every one of them that were kidnapped sat close to decomposing bodies of victims that had been killed in their camp, when their family members didn’t come up on time with the ransom they demanded. She said the kidnappers even, “killed some abducted victims close to us and covered their corpses with plantain leaves, while the area was covered with the odour from decomposing bodies and maggots from the bodies. “They also threatened to kill us if our family members didn’t bring our ransom on time.

I was scared when I saw how people sitting close to me where being killed simply because of money. It was a bad experience living in the forest without food nor water.” She added that on one the days, “I don’t know how police got to know that we were in the forest. Immediately the kidnappers saw them we were asked to lie down, after a while the policemen left when they didn’t see us, but we were seeing them.” According to Aminat, it was a bitter experience, as they were not given water nor food for the three days that they spent in the forest with the kidnappers. She said: “My friend and I left Abeokuta around 3:30pm from Kuto Motor Park to Ibadan to honour the invitation of our friend who was getting married on Sunday, we decided to leave on Friday in order to assist her and rest before the wedding day.

It was some minutes to 4pm when we suddenly saw the kidnappers in Army uniforms and they were shooting sporadically. “What we thought was that they were chasing armed robbers, not until they got to our own bus and ordered everyone of us out of the bus, but some passengers escaped, I had also escaped, but they came to pick me up where I was hiding and marched me into the forest with others. We walked for over six hours without shoes and we were beaten severally. “It was the stray bullets from the sporadic shooting that hit the former Deputy Vice Chancellor of the University of Ibadan, Adigun Agbaje, the man is old, it was my friend and I who assisted him when he couldn’t walked fast. The old man was also complaining about his drugs, at the same time praying God should save him because of the gunshot injury he sustained.

“It is a lie when people say the kidnappers mounted roadblock to abduct us. It is a pure lie, there was nothing of such. We just saw them on the road shooting sporadically, we believed that they were chasing armed robbers, not until we were kidnapped that we knew who they were. They all dressed in Army uniform. “After staying a while in the forest, I was given my phone to call my parents, I was still talking to them when the Phone was collected from me and they told my parents to get N10 million each for me and my friend for our release. “Twenty-four hours later, the kidnappers agreed to reduce the ransom from N20 million to N4 million. But my parents were able to raise N2 million, while my friend’s family also raised N1.5 million and the total money we gave them was N3.5 million, before we were released to my father who brought the ransom to them in the forest. “I believe it was prayer that made them to collect such amount of money, while I was still in the forest some families paid N5 million to N8 million for the release of their family members in the kidnappers captivity.”

How the ransom was paid

The victim’s father, Chief Kayode Taiwo said he was at home the fateful night when the unfortunate information reached him through his younger daughter, saying Aminat had been kidnapped. “Immediately, I asked her mother to call her phone number, the phone was ringing but no response, the following day, I went to Mowe Police Station and Area Command at Obafemi Owode to lodge a complaint and they promised to track her phone number. Unfortunately, the tracker, tracked the kidnappers to Owode, whereas they were in a forest on the Lagos Ibadan Expressway.

“On Friday night, my daughter called back that the kidnappers are threatening to kill her and her friend if we didn’t bring the ransom on time. On Saturday morning she called again that the kidnappers said if we have N4 million that I should bring it to Ibadan and I told her what we have was just N2 million, as at that period I did’t have any money, it was after then that I went to town to beg for money.

“Luckily, I was able to raise the N2 million and the family of my daughter’s friend also raised N1.5 million and I took the N3.5 million to them at Ibadan, with my younger brother, where I was told to bring the money. When I got to Ibadan I spent two hours, I was ordered back to Onigari area, after spending another two hours, I was also asked to come down to Dominion University area, it was there they finally came out to me and they were fully kitted in Army uniform and fully armed to the teeth.

“The kidnappers didn’t cover their faces, immediately after collecting the money from me and asking me how much the ransom I brought was, I told them it was N3.5 million for my daughter and her friend. The person who collected the money then ordered one of them to go back into the forest and bring my daughter and her friend, that was how we paid for their released. “When we were about to leave, the kidnappers’ leader asked my daughter about her phone and she then told him she couldn’t find it, the kidnapper’s leader said we should go home and thank Allah that she was not killed.

Immediately I saw my daughter and her friend I was crying, because mosquito had bitten all her body and she was dirty and her foot was injured, because of the distance they walked in the forest.” He added that, before he left the area some other family members of kidnap victims also brought ransom to secure the release of their loved ones. “The leader of the kidnappers gave me his phone to direct a man who was bringing ransom to secure the release of his family member that was also abducted, I was the one directing the man whom the kidnapper said was bringing N8 million ransom. He also told me nobody can track his phone number, he said they only operate in that area once in a week. The victim’s father used the opportunity to plead with the government, “the government should fortify our security and deploy soldiers and police to the Lagos Ibadan Expressway to protect innocent travellers.”

The kidnappers tried to abduct another couple

Sunday Taiwo, the victim father’s immediate younger brother, said it was celebration galore when they brought Aminat back home from the kidnappers den, as sympathisers had gathered in their house waiting for her arrival. After raising the money, it became another issue of who will take the money to the kidnappers, because the victim’s father was afraid, I followed him to deliver the ransom to them. It was family members and some good Samaritans who gave us the money.

He said: “When we eventually got to the front of Dominion University where we were asked to wait, it was one towing vehicle operator who first came, followed by two motorcyclists who are working with them. “After we had waited for a while, the kidnappers dressed in Army uniform just walked out of the forest to collect the money from us. We were even afraid that we might be kidnap as well. We were already there by 2pm and we left by 6pm.

“They also tried to kidnap a couple who were fixing their car that had problem, the couple were almost knocked down by a speeding vehicle when they were trying to escape from the kidnappers.” Also speaking, Habibat Taiwo, the victim’s younger sister, said before her elder sister left her hostel at Abeokuta for the journey she sent her a message. She told me it was she and her friend that were embarking on the journey and “I wished them well. I was surprised when she called me few hours later that she and her friend had been abducted along the Lagos- Ibadan Expressway.

Culled from newtelegraphng.com

Science/Technology › Re: UK Man Becomes First To Receive Bank Microchip Implant For Making Purchases(PIX) by Phraences: 6:32am On Nov 04, 2022

I like this. I hope technology gets cheap and everyone can implant chip so when you know you about to be kidnapped elevated adrenaline will send off a signal with your location..

Crime › Re: Four Men Gang-rape Co-tenant's 13-year-old Daughter In Anambra by Phraences: 1:28pm On Nov 03, 2022

Animals in human skin. And Madam, give that poor child and her father chair to sit now!!!. What is all this?!!!!

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Crime › Re: 64-Year-Old Nigerian Woman Stabbed To Death By Her Son In London by Phraences: 1:25pm On Nov 03, 2022

And they probably did naming ceremony/child dedication when this boy was born and all the prayers in this world were heaped on his head. cool

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Travel › Re: Canada Plans Record Immigration Targets Amid Labour Crunch by Phraences: 10:23am On Nov 03, 2022

sweetkev:
I swear, that's the major problem. Spending more than 5 million for visa processing and other difficult procedures. Why can't they just do it like American visa lottery whereby people would be selected randomly after filling a form.

If you don't suffer for it, you might not value it.

Fashion › Re: Photo Of N3m Louis Vuitton Button Shirt Sparks Mixed Reactions On Social Media by Phraences: 10:12am On Nov 03, 2022

Zoharariel:
When I was growing up, I used to be very crazy about all these designers clothings & accessories.

But as I grew older, I started gravitating towards 100% London Cottons like Thomas Pink, Hawes & Curtis, TM Lewin & Charles White. (I’m not talking about the fake TM’s that are being packaged and sold at Shoprite).

The problem I have with these kind of overrated LV shirt is that once I wear it once, I immediately lose the urge to wear it again.

If I had the money, would I buy expensive LV, Dior or Gucci shoes and belt? The answer is Yes.

But shirts, trousers, jackets, hoodie? Sango forbid bad thing.

I get your point. Cos clothing is so obvious and you can't be repeating shirts everyday.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Becoming An Athiest The Next??? by Phraences: 10:30pm On Nov 02, 2022

Kobojunkie:
Why should God have answered your Davido's prayers?

Has your Davido been a faithful servant of God for God to owe Him an answer?

How can you expect to count on a God you blatantly refuse and reject every chance you get?

Una dey use una brain so?

Davido is just an example. Use your brain!!! Believers and unbelievers, faithful servants and unfaithful servants go through suffering and pain. What is now the benefit of knowing God if you are still suffering as unbelievers? And don’t mention eternal life!!!!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Becoming An Athiest The Next??? by Phraences: 6:28pm On Nov 02, 2022

MaxInDHouse:
It's not by hypocritical prayers but doing things in the right way!

No make me laugh. He is waiting for us to get it right before he shows himself. Rotflmao cheesy

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Becoming An Athiest The Next??? by Phraences: 6:17pm On Nov 02, 2022

MaxInDHouse:
God can be perceived through intelligent reasoning, a kid can use his brains to decipher strange things happening when people are doing what they shouldn't have done without a SUPREME BEING controlling them.
The reason we can't see God is because God only makes Himself visible when pleased not on demand!

And all these years he has not been pleased by anybody abi? After all the mountains of prayers Nigerians have been sending to him.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Becoming An Athiest The Next??? by Phraences: 6:15pm On Nov 02, 2022

Maynman:
what makes something visible? In order for something to be visible to the human eye, it needs to interact with light in the visible electromagnetic spectrum (about 400 - 700nm for humans).

Air can be measured and put in a vacuum.
I can carry air and store air.

A kid can use barometer and measure air without believing in any deity.

The reason we can’t see air is because air absorb light instead of reflecting.

We also know what air is and what it contains.
Air is mostly gas
It's a mixture of different gases. The air in Earth's atmosphere is made up of approximately 78 percent nitrogen and 21 percent oxygen. Air also has small amounts of other gases, too, such as carbon dioxide, neon, and hydrogen.

It seems one has to be dumb to be a deity worshipper

Good response.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Becoming An Athiest The Next??? by Phraences: 6:10pm On Nov 02, 2022

MaxInDHouse:
Have you seen air before?
Does air exist?

I feel it on my face. I assure you if an unseen being holds my hand and i feel the pressure of his touch, i will also believe.

Sight, hearing, touch, smell, and taste. The five human senses. Can you see God, hear him, touch him, smell him, taste him??

I can't see air but i can feel it on my skin.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Becoming An Athiest The Next??? by Phraences: 5:28pm On Nov 02, 2022

MaxInDHouse:
Imagine a person who disagree with the idea of a SUPREME BEING wanting to talk about the purpose of life!

The problem with atheists is the way they will be dodging questions but expecting you to answer all the questions that comes to their minds, i have dealt with him several times so he began running away from me using insults as a shield because he realized that i'm not interested in exchange of insults but intelligent talks which himself and all his professors in Atheism can't withstand!

Atheists don't dodge questions because they have nothing to prove. He who asserts must prove. People who say there is a God that cannot be seen with two naked eyes are the ones that need to prove it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Becoming An Athiest The Next??? by Phraences: 5:26pm On Nov 02, 2022

Image123:
It's not made up but the reality of many. The problem is that you think fulfillment is all about money or this life. We've met people with so much money and fame and power and are still miserable. i guess you're suffering from the disease of prosperity gospel syndrome where you think benefit of being a Christian is all about health and wealth. We have atheists regretting and weeping at the end of their lives like babies despite all the so called accomplishments. If only in this world you have hope, you are quite the miserable man.

Where do you see atheists weeping huh

You have an overactive imagination!!!!

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Politics › Re: Fayose In Court Over Unpaid ₦‎900 Million Legal Fees by Phraences: 5:25pm On Nov 02, 2022

He probably bribed the judge in advance plus other mobilization fees. Always collect your money upfront. Never trust a politician....

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Becoming An Athiest The Next??? by Phraences: 1:46pm On Nov 02, 2022

LordReed:
LoLz! Where do you people get all these things about atheists being miserable and purposeless from? I am an atheist and I am not miserable and purposeless. Do you just make this stuff up or is someone feeding you this garbage?

They make this stuff up cos they can't comprehend that people can stop believing in God and still live a fulfilled life.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Becoming An Athiest The Next??? by Phraences: 1:40pm On Nov 02, 2022

11 days ago Davido prayed for his Son on his birthday. I'm sure his grandparents and other people also prayed for him. And yet today the boy is no more. Prayer does not work. And if you can't count on God when you need him the most, how can you be sure he exists.

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Romance › Re: My Experience As An Atheist In The Dating World. by Phraences: 8:02am On Nov 02, 2022

kingxsamz:
You've deflected but no wahala. He hardened Pharaoh's heart, he confused many people building a tower because they planned to live as one. He literally drowned everyone because he was pissed. He killed a man for pulling out during sex. Omo, I can go on and on.

When Christians say God is kind, it's like saying your kidnapper is kind for killing others and leaving you.

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Romance › Re: My Experience As An Atheist In The Dating World. by Phraences: 7:59am On Nov 02, 2022

I was born a Christian and to be honest i have always felt the bible was contradictory when read with an open mind through the lenses of logic and common sense. But if you bring up these contradictions, you are told God is too big for man to understand, his ways are not our ways etc.

If God is real, i don't know how to describe him. Why drive out Adam and Eve because of Apple? Why send your son to die? Was there no other way? Why disappear from the face of the earth so your creations cannot even talk to you and be comforted by you? Why ask us to have faith in an unseen and unheard being knowing fully well people will bow down and worship if they can see you and hear you.

The old testament to be honest describes a good that is partial and cruel in some ways. Wars, killing, fighting in the name of God etc.

Then certain aspects of the bible especially new testament shows acts of kindness.

Then the multiple religions on Earth. Most Christians are that way because they were born into a Christian household and same goes for people in other religions. Which belief is now the Truth?

To be sincere, if we had a cruel/erratic God i wouldn't mind if i can see him and hear him for myself and hear his rules directly from his mouth.

Right now i am an Agnostic leaning towards Atheism. No more praying, church etc. And i feel like i have set myself free.

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Celebrities › Re: Davido And Chioma’s Son, Ifeanyi Is Dead; Drowns In A Swimming Pool by Phraences: 9:33am On Nov 01, 2022

Humans and Risk Management. Smh!!! Not everything is binding and casting, night vigil, NSPPD prayer etc!!! After what happened with Dbanj, i expected Rich parents with swimming pool to have learnt from the lesson. When something bad happens, you will see people saying "Not my portion" "I pray against untimely death in my family" etc... Something that could be avoided. Big mansion, affluent enviroment, yet no swimming pool barrier!!! RIP Ifeanyi.

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Family › Re: In my late 20s; I Don't Desire The typical Marriage, But I Want To Have Children by Phraences: 8:51am On Oct 31, 2022

Op, you are not alone. My own case is that both marriage and children, i fancy none. I don't trip over children or babies and i am not interested in carrying them. I only take a second look at beautiful babies in real life or Tv and that's it. I don't feel the urge to start propagating.

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Crime › Re: Lagos-Ibadan Expressway: Students Fundraise Ransom, Kidnapped Mates Released by Phraences: 7:47am On Oct 31, 2022

mastermaestro:
Contained in which North? North Korea? This must be a joke.

Before 2015, where we hearing about kidnapping in the south and west?

Crime › Re: Lagos-Ibadan Expressway: Students Fundraise Ransom, Kidnapped Mates Released by Phraences: 7:33am On Oct 31, 2022

sterlingD:
Why did we allow this to happen to us? Why did we allow ourselves to get to this point?How could we have allowed things to get to this point?

Something that was contained in the North now spread to the East, now encroaching to the West!!!!

Crime › Re: Lagos-Ibadan Expressway: Students Fundraise Ransom, Kidnapped Mates Released by Phraences: 7:30am On Oct 31, 2022

Kurumaru:
This Menace is gradually crawling close to Lagos.... All engagements outside Lagos unreachable by air, are temporarily suspended for me...

And no interstate evening travel!!!

Nairaland General › Re: Ever Gone From Grace To Grass? by Phraences: 6:38am On Oct 31, 2022

Mekanus:
I am an atheist and don't believe in those things. For over 10 years now I've not prayed nor performed any ritual. I live my life without believing that there's a supreme being out there caring for me. Whatever I need, I work towards it and seek help from my fellow humans.

When bad things or disappointments happen how do you cope? I mean have you never felt like God is punishing you and felt the urge to pray?

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Nairaland General › Re: Ever Gone From Grace To Grass? by Phraences: 6:32am On Oct 31, 2022

Martinez39s:
So? If humans can't explain or figure out something, does that prove your god is real?

@emboldened

Your experiences are telling you that there is no god and prayers are useless. You have seen that outcomes occur regardless of prayer, but you misconstrued life's teaching and saw it as god doing whatever he pleases and as "what will be will be".

Isn't this remarkably similarly to God's non-existence and the facts that we are on our own and life will run its course as if there is no God?

Love your comment. How can you say prayer is useless and still believe God exists? That we don't know how the sun or moon or oxygen came about does not mean anything to me..

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Nairaland General › Re: Ever Gone From Grace To Grass? by Phraences: 6:18am On Oct 31, 2022

seanwilliam:
It’s well.
Seriously I learnt so much from this thread.
Summary of the lessons
1. When you’re rich , be humble
2. Look out for yourself and plan ahead for unforeseen events
3. Help people around you to grown ( some of them will always come back to reciprocate)
4. Weather you’re a believer or not, life will still show you shege
5. Money that’s not put into work will finish no matter how much
6. Not all opportunities lost can be regained
7. Life happens to anyone, but we’re mostly architects of our misfortune.
8. People especially women will lose respect for you when you go broke .
9. Surrounding oneself with lovely family and friends is very important
10. Que sera sera, whatever will be will be.

Nairaland General › Re: Ever Gone From Grace To Grass? by Phraences: 6:32pm On Oct 30, 2022

2Radii:
Am sorry to say this and God should forgive me for this.

See, connection no dey here to make ooh, na inside a remote area we no dey inside map

The tin is that not that I am jobless, I am not hungry as well, I have a wife and a daughter I take care of, I do send money to my father and my mum, friends also use to have some cuts when they are down.

I am not financially ok but I use to have a savings of an average of 100k every month(makes more than 200k in a month)

I wish I can go to a gathering where I can connect with people who are financially bouyant than I am but oops...if only I will even find those I am more financially stable than.

Before I got to this stage bro I have had several setback, bad dreams, eating in the dream(imagine eating in the dream and u belleful Wen u woke up), I went to school but the certificate didn't amount to anything, I had to learn a trade like an illiterate from someone who didn't go to school.

I dont want to say that before I was riddled with hardluck in all my endeavours, until God changed everything (the funny tin is that He changed it for me when and after I lost faith in religion)

See bros, talk plenty jare.

Or perhaps the universe tilted and your stars became aligned!!! cheesy

Don’t mind me jare!!! grin

Nairaland General › Re: Ever Gone From Grace To Grass? by Phraences: 6:17pm On Oct 30, 2022

Kutunban:
Most times what people call grass is actually the Grace that will take you to the Grace which you see or think as Grace.

God's grace is unending. Grass which you refer to is what the Christians call long suffering, which is a fruit of the spirit according to the Christian Faith.

Life is never easy, I'm not a Christian or Muslim but I believe in God and God is the creator of all things including the Grace which you experience and the grass which you think you are experiencing. This is the only process that you can move to higher dimensions.

But the unenlightened ones run away from this truth.

Aspire to Perspire!!!!!

Nairaland General › Re: Ever Gone From Grace To Grass? by Phraences: 6:04pm On Oct 30, 2022

2Radii:
See u

Why didn't u ask me the reason I lost faith in prayer and church?

See guy, everybody has his own share of the breakfast ooh, couple of weeks ago I told my mum to pls take good care of my daughter, you have to see how my mum was practically crying and paranoid..

As I am like this, I am into a mini depression, church a no dey go again, cant remember the last time I tasted, prayer is not my tin, a con become wicked..

Imagine me telling my parents that if I find out they are the ones behind my predicament they won't find it easy..lol...

Bro make I just shutup before I offend God, God should forgive me .

But bro... Hmmmmmm, my own dey my body ooh, but I thank God cus He's alive and always be alive.

Go there with a selfish and business oriented mindset. To make friends and connection and later to ask for help. Even to keep busy. If you are jobless, join a society. Rich people do charity abroad just to get tax cuts. When you operate from a business mindset you will see other advantages of church and community. During COVID 19 lock down some churches were sharing provisions. Instead of going to church to look up to God, go there and look around for who will help you. If you notice the particular church can’t help, change churches. If Pastors can pretend to hear God, you too can pretend for the church members that your faith is unwavering.

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Nairaland General › Re: Ever Gone From Grace To Grass? by Phraences: 5:48pm On Oct 30, 2022

2Radii:
Alaye calm down

You can't hate or fight what u don't see...

Leave God alone to His wonders..

I am sure if I ask you to explain how Oxygen, vegetations, earth(soil), light and darkness (day and night), even you..came into existence you would be blabbing to to prove a point

GOD IS ALIVE, JUST THAT HE WONT DO WHAT HE WONT DO, THAT IS WHY I DONT PRAY AGAIN,

me self no dey pray ooh, but a dey thank my GOD for all His wonders.

I hope the first statement is true though from the total silence all around me i no dey sure. But you are right that anything wey wan happen go happen. Life is random. It’s just like a gamble. Some are born whole, some with all manner of genetic diseases. So many examples of the randomness of life.

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