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Blitzking:
But it will make my children unable to afford things in my house cos in the first place it wasn't free for my children..so my children might starve to death cos a foreigner has a higher purchasing power..he would also rent all my room and store my food creating artificial scarcity for my children and remember my children are already shortchanged cos the little they had has already lost value. The question is how can I attract foreign investment without making my children suffer...economist in the house over to you we need to solve the riddle.

They will buy all those things with forex which will leave their pockets and be in yours. Your children will at first complain bitterly but will adapt and eventually find "ways". Meanwhile your neighbor becomes addicted to your cheap goods and stop making their own. Eventually you'll start giving them high-interest credit because your household lives on so little, eventually you'll own them!

DeepSight:
Clearly we have to take a step back. I can see now the problem with my not having explained why the universe cannot be eternal in the past, relying on the fact that you concurred that it had a beginning. That was a problem. Because there is a factor in there that we do not necessarily agree on, but glossed over. Here it is.

Matter cannot be eternal in the past because it is mutable. A thing that changes form cannot be eternal in the past.

Now, this is a statement that a lot of people seem to struggle with whereas some immediately grasp. I would ask that you take a few minutes to dwell carefully on it, and see if you find agreement with it before we proceed. If you don't, I will attempt an explanation.

Assume our reality is a simulation and discuss eternity, mutability, etc from that perspective

HellVictorinho6:
u dont understand

i was not talking about trains moving

i was talking about being preceded in the absence of time ...not possible.

But there is no time, there is only spacetime

HellVictorinho6:
how can u be sure the universe exists when u say it was preceded in the absence of time?

If the universe is a simulation or matrix, and that simulation was launched what we perceive as 13.8 billion years ago. Before that, well there's no b4 that from our perspective.

HellVictorinho6:
that they come from u does not mean u choose them

the environment makes u to produce them

it also makes u to do anything else

to choose means to suggest that u have control or the ability to withstand certain things

But you can see clearly from the illustrations how someone can be operating 100% sure they have freewill when in fact they don't! How it is very likely that free will is an illusion, that we only think we have freewill

*Politeness*
To illustrate what I said above check out these two videos, one is a minute, the other is 30 sec. Remember, this is just a fellow human who probably doesn't even know exactly why it works. If a fellow human can do this, what can a super being do? Also note that the guy doesn't remember being hypnotized, he thinks he's just operating of his free will.
So, outlandish as the notion may seem, the more you think about it, the more you'd tend to agree with Einstein viewpoint.
Also, Einstein used to keep a pen by his bedside and used to wake up and write down thoughts dropped into his mind. As he later refused to take credit for these thoughts, maybe he knows something we don't!

30 sec short
https://youtube.com/shorts/LyQ8krZpCtw?si=0g-fpB6HesZNDTv7

1 minute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ON_Q5RXr44?si=bbshYsaxBclZINzm

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Belial06:
This is a very inane childish way of looking at it. In that case why isn't everyone rushing to Venezuela?

If you don't understand something don't comment

*Politeness*
Floating is different from inflation. Also it depends on the type of country. Nigeria is the the type of country that CANNOT lose in the long run by floating her currency.
The only losers will be those who wish to travel, those who need to buy foreign, round trippers, blackmarketers, currency hoaders and speculators, corrupt government and CBN insiders, foreign countries who'd get less of our japa youths and brains and visa money!

HellVictorinho6:
There is no such thing as universe/EVERYTHING that exists



It makes no sense to say something happened..(past) ..in the absence of time.



There must be time if one thing must precede some other.

The entire big bang/universe concept is rubbish

As 4 thoughts, they are overrated.

Even death is overrated.

Whether u send that murny or not, it remains that way.



U think,hence ur thoughts.

They come from you.

Itz just part of what makes u. Thats why you call it yours.

But Einstein discovered (entirely thinking in his study) that time doesn't work like that, that it is intertwined with space and motion. He imagined two trains speeding in opposite directions. They'll record different times for an occurrence. Also the faster the soeed, the slower time gets till it stands still at speed of light and reverses beyond that - and you have time travel into the past!
As for thoughts, I'll try to think like Einstein. We know you cannot NOT think of something (eg a pink elephant) no matter how you try. We also know you can't decide what dream you'll have no matter how you try. We also know people can be hypnotized and told what to do - yet they'll swear it was a their free will, that they are not being controlled. All these will seem to indicate we have no power to override our own thoughts, yet those thoughts were just there - we're not the ones who chose them!

Gadafii:
mention any local manufacturer that are likely to replace these foreign ones, are you aware of how many local companies have folded the past one year,??!

If this is the case, why is dangote cemetery expensive since the source raw material locally??


Why is tomorrows and onions fucking expensive since they are produced locally

It doesn't have to be big companies. People will learn how to make their own soaps and cough syrups, plus small mam and pap local manufacturers. Any local company that folds despite lack of competition from foreign-made (due to expensive dollar) should not be in business in the first place

Maxxim:
So this is an artificial condition, if the government did this on purpose why reassuring the masses on empty promises.
The irony is that this country won't be able to sustain this development cos we adopt American lifestyle which is the consumers type.
This is just like treating malaria with chemotherapy treatment

*Politeness*
See my post above. Actually the government just said, let's stop wasting resources trying to artificially hold up naira (with the attendant round-tripping, corruption, black market, hoarding, and speculation) and just let the market decide it's value with everything transparent.
No way it can be a bad thing in the long run.

Gadafii:
unfortunately the reverse is the case, more firms ad businesses are packing up on a daily, in fact international companies in their numbers have left the shore of Nigeria due tho this valueless naira e dollar and other factors

But those are companies who source their raw materials overseas. They'll be replaced by those who can source locally. Example, P&G will be replaced by local manufacturers of those items because people still have to use them. Meanwhile companies based overseas will arrange assemblage in Nigeria due to cheap labour. Devaluation is only bad for citizens wishing to travel or buy foreign. In the long run it is never bad for a country. Of course devaluation is different from inflation, which also affects prices of home-made.

fortunez1:
so why isn't it working here yet ?

ckc:
Honestly I don't understand all you saying. Truth be told

Validated:
So, investors are now flooding SW?
Tinubu is a Buffonish President

*Politeness*
Here's an obvious example: i read somewhere that floating has reduced the rate of japa. Who is losing? Those countries that would have gotten money from visa, etc, plus take our youth and brains. Tell me who is gaining? Remember this is just floating. If you intentionally totally devalue Naira, japa will stop completely and Nigerians will stop buying anything foreign!

ckc:
which one is people and investments? I don't want all those sweet economic jargons. Describe any benefit the way a layman will understand it.

*Politeness*
I modified my post. See above. It is not economic jargon, it is common sense. If my money can buy more in your house, I'd like your house and buy stuff from your house... until I realize I'm giving you all my money!

*Politeness*
It will bring in people and investments.
Don't you see US always accusing China of intentionally devaluing their currency?
Example, if Togo devalues their currency you'd be going there to buy stuff and vacations, but if they inflate their currency you won't go

*Politeness*
It is not economic jargon, it is common sense. If my money can buy more in your house, I'd like your house and buy stuff from your house... until I realize
I'm giving you all my money!

*Politeness*
Here's just one particular example: i read somewhere that floating has reduced the rate of japa. Who is losing? Those countries that would have gotten money from visa, etc, plus take our youth and brains. Who is gaining in the long run? Nigeria!

*Politeness*
Actually the government just said, let's stop wasting resources trying to artificially hold up naira (with the attendant round-tripping, corruption, black market, hoarding, and speculation) and just let the market decide it's value, with everything out in the open.

*Politeness*
With float and a single exchange rate, diasporan remittances will go through official channels and CBN will get a cut, while before most such remittances never actually made it into the country!

*Politeness*
Floating is different from inflation. Also it depends on the type of country. Nigeria is the the type of country that CANNOT lose in the long run by floating her currency.
The only losers will be those who wish to travel, those who need to buy foreign, round trippers, blackmarketers, currency hoaders and speculators, corrupt government and CBN insiders, airlines, foreign countries who'd get less of our japa youths, brains, and visa money!

goodyvin02:
At least his family will never be poor

Don't be so sure. One useless person can clear the whole money in one year and go massively into debt

DeepSight:
It is appeal to authority and nothing says he could not be wrong in any of his conclusions. Even scientific ones. New science continuously upends old science.

*Politeness*
That's why I say atheism is by far the most STUPID postion a person can adopt. See how you did not attempt to answer the questions as to where your thoughts come from? Or where your dreams come from? I have a friend who is a very devout Christian. She always dreams of same entity coming to have sex with her. When she's strong in her faith it doesn't happen. When she starts slacking off, it happens again. There are so many dimensions and levels to existence, it's as if we hardly know anything! See below, Einstein on us being like a child in a library. I'll add to it that the child can't read, doesn't know how many rooms are in the library, doesn't know how many libraries there are, and doesn't even know if the library is "real" or if he is in dream or hallucinating!
Imagine such a child making declarations, like nothingness cannot exist, or there is no God!

As for Einstein being just "authority" (someone else said he's overrated). I think it is a case of a pharaoh has come who doesn't know Joseph. Do you know Einstein was the person who persuaded Roosevelt about developing nuclear weapons that ended the war by showing him the Germans were in the process of developing it using his formulas. Do you know Einstein came up with his perception-changing theories in his study through thought experiments, with no technical equipments? I bet you still don't understand how time and space are a continuum, spacetime, and how our gravity is not a force exerted by earth but a curvature in spacetime.
So, there is authority, then there is authority. Especially when all the geniuses of our time are also saying we are likely in a simulation or matrix, and glitches abound that support that. All point to something or someone being behind our reality, not mere happenstance!

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OkoAnike:
Don't thank him yet, where did he get the Internet used... Because there's attitude level you get to, then bye to any network.

jamesversion:
How do fighter jets like F22 Raptor communicate with their base stations?

Ok, let's let Google settle it. See below

new2012:
I'm always not sure where does guys get their conspiracy theorems from. like what do they gain spreading such malicious-controversial news?

is it some sort of religious fanaticism or outright foolishness? I do not agree with the vaccine from a personal point of view and that's cause I doubt the actual origin of the virus itself, for instance I believe Nigeria was such a poor country that lockdown was a sin! those are my personal views and I can't share them as facts, but what do they gain from spreading such nonsense and claiming them a facts?

I'm in the tech space and will never forget when Pastor Chris 'Oyakhilome' said 5G was COVID, like what the actual Bleep? and he even claim God told him that. these religious fanatics are worst than cancer coz they spread not in the body but among multiple people destroying their thought process and actual mental capabilities.

*Politeness*
Well-said!
What gets me is the utter shamelessness. Example, see below, instead of this guy to just slink away after being shown he outright LIED in everything he posted, he goes on still posting nonsense! This is the same guy who placed a bet almost three years ago that ALL vaccinated folks would be dead within two years! (He changed his moniker, but he can't change his "voice"!

online4business:
It's easy to shout conspiracy theory because you want to believe the status quo.

I know this guy. The most rabid conspiracy nut on Nairaland. You changed your moniker but you can't fool me!

KnownUnknown:
E= MC2 is where Einstein’s authority begins and ends. It doesn’t matter if his God or Dog played dice, ayo, or fucking hopscotch. If he believed in a god, his god wasn’t any different than an uneducated person’s god. Both nonsense.
You can cite the pied piper playing at a distance or the pied piper playing in your closet but IT DOESN’T MATTER! Christ fucking Jesus, you are thick!

HellVictorinho6:
does it matter why he asked or what he meant by asking?

is einstein not overrated?

is he worth all these?

(** It seems my good friend LordReed has been banned. But I have a feeling he's still here with us )

😆Quite funny. But funny aside, let's analyze this Einstein. Have you ever pondered where your thoughts come from. Or where your dreams come from? Those are the kind of things Einstein spent months on end thinking about before comming forward with a position.
Considering that Einstein is arguably the most insightful human that has ever lived (in terms of insight into the true nature of our reality), it is not wise to dismiss his position on that topic as "Appeal to Authority"

LordReed:
Dumdum you've showed your hand already.

*Politeness*
Sooo, QED as usual
Now on to your next point:
I only quoted Einstein's statement: "I don't think God plays dice with the universe". I did NOT gratuitously keep meentioning God as you obvoously compulsively need to do!

LordReed:
At this point it's clear you are merely grandstanding with nonsense.

*Politeness*
Nope. Just won't let you get away with saying that a clearly pejorative, aggressive, rhetorical question was an earnest attempt to elicit information!
Really ridiculous!😅

Nonso92:
Yesterday's match was disheartening.

*Politeness*
It was an outright disgrace on world stage

LordReed:
Dumdum how is a question asking for clarification rhetorical? More you just reciting by rote. Engage your flagging brain cells for once.

*Politeness*
Old age is not a bad thing. In fact almost we all wish to live to a ripe old. Only that in your case it could be affecting your memory and cognition. So I hereby repost the convo. Note the part circled in green. That's the question you are insisting is an earnest request for info!

*Politeness*
Nonsense

online4business:
I show you facts yet you only respond with opinion.

facts about Vioxx
facts about FDA and big pharma
facts about Monsanto
fact that us is importing immigrants and keeping their borders open.

and heart dieases is now the leading cause of death in the US.

overtaken diabetes and cancer in less than 2 years?

no it's conspiracy theory at it's best... hide your head in shame if you cannot bring facts.

everything I outlined here is verifiable FACTS.

PEOPLE like you na them dey vote people like tinubu polite activists wey no fit show facts or figure na wetin.

na woke shoyinka wey don lose him voice after supporting tinubulation.

yet no ojuelegba protest ebi pa WA everywhere.

you nova learn anything continue being deluded like you voted a failure.

*Politeness*
They did such a number on you, you're talking like a lunatic.
The border and how to stem Immigration are the biggest issues in their presidential election this year. Heart disease has been the leading cause of death in US since 1950 (see below). Do you get news from any other place other than YouTube?? Once again, all top officials took the vaccines and boosters to encourage people to take them. How many have died? How many people have died in Nigeria and other vaccinated countries??

LordReed:
Dumdum stop trying to assume you can read my mind. If you had an honest bone in your body you'd have accepted my explanation and provided a response but because you are only trying to deflect you persist in nonsense. You've dragged this out over how many days now just to not answer a simple question. You stink.

*Politeness*
Well, sir, unless you invent your own language, we have norms. You don't get to make your own rules as it suites your current debate. If you ask someone Einstein's religion, then retort with "why should we care." right after they answer you, it means BOTH your questions were aggressive rhetoric questions!

online4business:
Let's put things in perspective because people are determined to be RIGHT THAN LEARN.

RNA gene therapy was tested on ten mice's no long term studies was conducted.... yet it was approved for emergency use authorization... By who?

Vioxx the most advertised drug in America killed more Americans from heart attack than the vitenam war.... So for figure.

Fzier paid billions in fine for Vioxx but here's the kicker no OFFICIAL WENT TO JAIL.

YOU CAN'T TAKE Rna short and booster not have heart condition or Cancer.

Why is American military calling back soldier who didn't take the shot back to resume duty....

I'll tell you those who took the shot have started showing signs of hearts condition.

People who know next to nothing come out and try to tell everyone about how ignorant they are.

It's not your fault... You have been decived by the medical complex who want everyone on drugs... Period.

You'll be flat out derelict in your responsibility to your health not to investigate and find out the following.

Do drug companies pay money to doctors for every drugs they recommend to patients in the US.

Why is drug the first line of action for cancer and heart dieases patients when change in lifestyle has no side effects.

How much do drug companies fund elections in US UK and new Zealand.

Why do drug companies in the US have immunity from prosecution when their products cause harm.





If you know all these it'll be as clear as daylight.

However if you refuse to learn and continue to believe in the propaganda it's your fault.

Why is Florida Texas and Alaska border open for immigrants from south America to come to America and they get paid.

Why is the news not on CNN and other news channel?

People are dying suddenly and it must be covered up period

Also find out about Monsanto (the evil corporation)

Henry Kissinger talk about depopulation through food companies.

Other foods to avoid are aspartame Splenda sucralose potassium acesulfame and many more.

Those cause cancer based on thousands of studies yet the FDA and other three letters agencies continue to use them.

What about the red and blue dye that trigger ADHD in kids?


This is the end of my rant

You can't save anyone they've got to save themselves.

Go save yourself and investigate all my rant here.


Would you be rather right than rich?


Remember suffering are lessons for those who don't want to learn. (Sara Sara pare)

*Politeness*
Poor guy, they really did a number on you. I suggest you stop watching YouTube. Infact, delete it from your phone. They really have you all mixed up. Millions of people took the vaccines including here in Nigeria (where you couldn't board a plane without proof of vaccine). How many people have died? You conspiracy nuts said ALL who took vaccine would be dead within 2 years! Instead of hiding in shame you double down producing more nonsense conspiracies!

ecolime:

To my fellow Nigerians, show the super Eagles some love. They did their best which unfortunately wasn't good enough to win the trophy.

Stop the cyber bullying.

*Politeness*
They'd have received more love if they didn't embarrass us in front of the biggest audience. It wasn't even a bit close
They probably were too scared of the referee. That second goal could have been easily avoided by Ekong. Even the first goal, no one was near the guy

LordReed:
You are just a dummy and I say that without any reservations.

Why should we care is a question designed to elicit a response outlining why Einstein's religion is an important part of your submission. Your dumbarse self failed to understand such a simple concept and even repeatedly spelling it out for you still fails to stimulate what ever geriatric brain cells you still have left.

You are intellectually no different from a nursery school pupil whose only ability is to recite from rote.

*Politeness*
That's one of the pitfalls of a forum like this. I could actually be debating with a bot and not know it.
Listen closely:
Once again, if you were asking a real question and not a rhetorical question, you would ask "why should we care?" right after someone had said "Einstein was never a Christian". You DON'T first ask the person "what religion was he?" then follow with "why should we care?". If you do, the question is rhetorical and just part of your continuing aggression towards the person.
Hope you finally get it

drimzsmoke:

Weyrey alasho, na HERBAL medicine you studied. Ogbeni, get the f**k out of my mention!!!!

*Politeness*
Seems our man has totally lost it. What's all these laugh emojis sir? And why did you stop?
Is it not people that practice herbal medicine? You sure u ok sir?

drimzsmoke:
You studied medicine and you became a registered nurse, is that it

What branch of knowledge do nurses study??