₦airaland Forum

joseph1832:
And I suppose you're the Architect of Knowledge?

lezz:
The truth is the first victim of war! Do not give in to European journals of Africa's state of affairs during colonialism and slavery; Do not be a willing post-colonial slave of Western propaganda. Africans sold mainly slaves to Europeans as slaves. Slaves of rival communities and tribes from the spoils of war.

Besides, Africans enslaved up to 1.5 million white Europeans in the 14th-16th century in the Barbary slave trade


Only a smattering amount of our ancestors in Calabar did that! Our ancestors in Western Nigeria and beyond worshipped them! Besides did not majority of Europeans burn scientist and opinionated people alive at an institutional level? See ya life?
And the West are so damn ingenious they invented the internet and social media and Yahoo boys are reaping them out in millions of Euros for decades now? Use your head.



You mean like the Pharos? Did not European kings do worse? Were not European kings who ordered and sanctioned the genocide of peoples in Native America, New Zealand, the aborigines of Australia, Congo, Ethiopia? Or the premeditated starvation to death of their own people in Ireland?


Your preconceived submissions are a sharp pointer to one who's a willing victim of mental and psychological defeatism.

Africans are a communal lot who never abandoned thier old parents or relations. Unlike the West where the government are forced to set up old people's home to look after aged folks whose sons and daughters are in the cities enjoying the Kaleidoscope of city vanity.

Folks die and are buried with strangers at funeral rites....damn!

Why don't you paint yourself with native chalk to be white....It's cheaper than the path you tread.

5minsmadness:
I hear u
There's a 99% probability that with all this your making mouth, your family will still give a list to your fiancee and you will blush with pride when he fulfils it all


I left the other 1% out for the sake of statistics

byvan03:
You and physical /spiritual realm are like 5 n 6 . In that case, the biblical method of serving the girl's father for a few years will suffice, am sure there won't be any cow required afterwards.

byvan03:
I can't wait for every damn thing to be scrapped, let's see what is there to hold onto. You totally got the drift. The koboko method should be the bride price, since they need something to win, money is too disposable . I doubt any man will subject himself to that without being blind,deaf and crippled in love. This method certainly will be more preserving for the institution. When you want behave like the devil's sanitary pad and remember how many strokes you endured to win her, you comport yourself.

cococandy:
Surprisingly guys are the one who want to uphold the practice of bride price. Even though they sometimes claim it is exorbitant.
And not surprisingly you're the ones who bring it up when you want mock women. "After I paid your bride price" bla bla bla. Most guys I've come across in this forum bring it up as avenue to mock women whenever the issues of equal treatment being discussed.

Does it take Einstein's IQ to deduce that the only reason why men want it continued is so that you can have something to hold over the woman for the rest of her life? Not that you care so much about culture. You only care about culture when it's the one that massages your egos and put women in a secondary position.

You and OP and the rest of you dudes should spare us your pseudo concern for 'our culture'. We know what you really care about. your fragile egos.

bukatyne:
@Bold:

The Bible says a man will leave his father & mother and cleave to his wife....

Isn't the husband the one to leave his family? Shouldn't women be the ones paying their husbands? At least, we have such in India and Britain (till it was cancelled).

@OP:

I really agree with byvan03 though we don't collect money and the wife's family present some gifts to he hubby's family and hosts the ceremony.

The term 'price' connotes a transaction.

omakay:
The bitter truth is that people are beginning to use this harmless traditional rite as a commercial means to an end. People now see the bride price rite as an opportunity to extract money and valuables from others all in the name of keeping tradition.

If we are really to go back to the original bride price requirements, we would truly discover now that 'padding' did not just start in the federal sector. It has being actively practiced in the traditional marriage sector too.

#PovertyIsAVirus

SalomonKane:
Can we see a link to the facebook age, OP? And verify if the story is accurate?

Lalasticlala, Dominique, please take note.

byvan03:
"Unclad wisdom" really? I can't even begin to punch holes on their "Unclad wisdom", too tired for that. The only thing returned is the token monetary price, what happens to every other thing on the list which they also accepted in cash or material? Why should the father be appeased? A culture mostly driven by greed and too much want. My opinion is born out of careful consideration and not prevailing circumstance. What do you think about the entire list being scrapped and the token itself which is always between 5-20k maintained? Don't you think it will make the process less commercial?

byvan03:
Why is it that your threads never escape a showdown? People end up cursing out themselves .

byvan03:
The assertion that the ancestors are full of wisdom is only for those that refused to think beyond norms and chose not to question conventions .

byvan03:
You said it means a lot to men, I suppose the same feeling you get when you buy an expensive car. The matter at hand has nothing to do with a woman's placement , whether out caste or free born, as a matter of fact totally unrelated.

byvan03:
There is nothing honourable about being priced, a woman's true worth should be priceless. A symbolic item would have made more sense than the long list and a few coin. Do you know that bride price is haggled? What's respectful about being priced like a commodity?

byvan03:
Being a requirement doesn't change the fact that it is monetary , humans should be priceless. It's hardly different from being sold.

byvan03:
Okay ooo, to each his own. A symbolic item like calabash, cowries e.t.c will serve as better price. I don't see anything symbolic about goat, yams, kolanuts and a few change. The term " price " is even worrying, very commercial . One will have to stick it out for this life time,i guess some things never change.

byvan03:
People get hitched because they want to forge a life with the one they love . It's not a favour to either party, so I can never understand purpose of the list. It makes it look more of a commercial activity , where the buyer expects to derive maximum utility from goods purchased .

byvan03:
I don't see how giving out a list and a few farm animals = honour for any woman . I really do hate the concept of bride price, a tradition that neither had usefulness nor purpose .

crackhaus:
Hmmm, this your list is inconclusive.

Our so-called Nigerian feminists still dey give list and collect brideprice before person fit marry dem na...why the confusion?

Your Category 5 should be:

[size=18pt]THE POST-MODERN CONFUSIONIST[/size]

IHATEPUZZY:
iyawo wa u know I do avoid e-fight

jez dunno y d fool wouldn't lemme be

Ishilove:
You used to use the silver tongue to caress my inner woman. Why the abrupt halt?

Ishilove:
You and your silver tongue.