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Education / Re: IPPIS: FG Paid Some Professors N8,000 As Monthly Salary – Abiodun Ogunyemi by proffemi: 5:56pm On Oct 30, 2020 |
Decimus:All ramifications? I hope you're not a Science or Engineering graduate making such a sweeping and patently false statement. Research funding? Infrastructure? Student facilities? I can tell you with 100% confidence that every single federal university has improved significantly in at least one of those areas over the last 20 years. You are even a clown to want to dispute that not most public universities in Nigeria are suffering from old, dilapidated hostels and inadequate lecture halls and ill-equipped labs.Don't be slow. Saying they are improving is hardly the same as saying they are world class or even of acceptable standard. That they still remain in relatively bad states despite the increased funding and interventions should tell you how bad things were, and how much is really needed to take them to world-class standards. You don't need to bother about my Alma mater...People get so selective about hiding information when they are lying freely. Mention at least one of those your two universities unless you're afraid or ashamed. I am in Obafemi Awolowo University for example. I'm neither proud of, nor ashamed of that fact. Challenge me, and I will tell you some of what TETFUND has done in my university. Mention your own university, and I will do same for it. |
Education / Re: IPPIS: FG Paid Some Professors N8,000 As Monthly Salary – Abiodun Ogunyemi by proffemi: 4:59pm On Oct 30, 2020 |
Decimus: Yes, it is just up the alley of an individual like you to argue from limited, myopic personal experience while rejecting *peer-reviewed, verifiable* facts. That something is improving globally does not mean that all local instances improve. I do not know your alma mater, but if you were to mention it, I'm sure interested posters will point out the recent TETFUND interventions there (assuming you *did* attend a university of course). I have neither interest in, nor time to cross swords with you. All I have time to do is provide evidence of your misconception, if you are interested. Re-calibrate based on superior information or stick with your preconceptions, it's up to you and no longer any business of mine. Sayonara. |
Education / Re: IPPIS: FG Paid Some Professors N8,000 As Monthly Salary – Abiodun Ogunyemi by proffemi: 4:13pm On Oct 30, 2020 |
Decimus: Daddy, take it to the bank: the universities are absol-100%-utely improving. And it is largely due to a program (TETFUND) that is ASUU's brainchild. Unfortunately, TETFUND has not completed its 20-year impact assessment study. But If you actually wanted to learn about a subject you've been posting on all day, the information is actually out there. Take this study for example : http://www.ccsenet.org/journal/index.php/jsd/article/view/39128 It focuses on EBSU, but the authors extrapolate to the entire Nigerian tertiary education system (as they well should), and you can see the clear trends. If you must post so aggressively on an issue, at least try to familiarize yourself with the facts! |
Education / Re: Muhammad Kiru: Kano Will Cancel Third Term If Private Schools Don’t Reduce Fees by proffemi: 7:19am On Oct 30, 2020 |
nedekid:Nigerians (maybe not you...) are capable of incredible cognitive dissonance. We all accept the sorry state of public primary/secondary education. Never mind that this sorry state was caused by their foolish clamor "free" education. At the same time, they vilify ASUU for being the last defender of public tertiary education. But for ASUU, the same phrase I highlighted above would apply to public tertiary education. By the way, I realize that you may well be sympathetic to ASUU's cause. Your comment just brought out my simmering disappointment with the state of the nation, especially with respect to education. 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: Tinubu's Full Statement On Lekki Shooting by proffemi: 9:29pm On Oct 25, 2020 |
Lanrelagboi: I can't stand Tinubu and I think his presidential ambition is the joke of the century. But "facts is facts": his defense passes the smell test, at least to logical people who have not been blinded by bias, hate or jealousy. The so many stupid things being said here only heighten my sense of disappointment as events have unfolded over the last few days. Yoruba youths lazily blaming Igbos for their hunger and hate-fueled rampage; Igbos just as hasty to resort to tribalism; so-called smart people swallowing propaganda; "peaceful protesters" trying to lock up public facilities during a curfew and expecting military personnel to play ludo with them, soldiers shooting live bullets (skywards or not) at unarmed protesters. My takeaway is that "people wey no well plenty on all sides of this matter". 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: Tinubu's Full Statement On Lekki Shooting by proffemi: 9:12pm On Oct 25, 2020 |
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Education / Re: ASUU To Fg: Why Do You Want To Spend Money On IPPIS When UTAS Is Free? by proffemi: 7:33am On Oct 20, 2020 |
Eje2019:None whatsoever. Not that this gives me any pleasure to say. Government is reconstituting its negotiation team, and ASUU branches have rejected the FG's initial offer (all empty *promises*). The negotiation dance is just commencing. If I had to guess, I'd say resumption should be sometime in November if both sides are willing to make reasonable compromises -as initial signs suggest. 1 Like |
Education / Re: ASUU To Fg: Why Do You Want To Spend Money On IPPIS When UTAS Is Free? by proffemi: 4:51pm On Oct 19, 2020 |
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Education / Re: ASUU To Fg: Why Do You Want To Spend Money On IPPIS When UTAS Is Free? by proffemi: 3:47pm On Oct 19, 2020 |
maasoap:Are you sure you're familiar with the details of this story? ASUU is 100% in support of government's so-called integrity testing. Neither ASUU, nor even the government have said otherwise. Please read some of Ngige's recent pronouncements on the issue to understand that the issue integrity testing. Popular? You mean the MULTIPLE government agencies that have opted out? Or the other university unions who initially went in happily that are now on strike because 8 months after, it is still not working? Mind you, I am not comparing universities and other agencies. Fact of the matter is that university autonomy is a thing, not just in Nigeria, but globally. More like employee dictating to his or her employerWhat I know for a fact is this: the story of university education in Nigeria has long been that FG either never shows cognizance of known global best practices, or demonstrates the appetite to embrace them. ASUU has had to force the FG to do the right thing in almost every instance. This might be no different. You can term that "dictating" if you wish, but I don't necessarily agree with that characterization. I myself prefer "educating". 1 Like |
Education / Re: ASUU To Fg: Why Do You Want To Spend Money On IPPIS When UTAS Is Free? by proffemi: 1:08pm On Oct 19, 2020 |
wellmax: E pele, Mr. Ignoramus with small English. Internet-savvy bunkum? Geez. Must you wield words bigger than you? For your information, my usage is very apt. Here's one definition: an ignorant or stupid person. Have you not shown yourself to be ignorant? Even when a teacher offered to show you evidence to the contrary, you would rather wallow in your ignorance. Says a lot about what sort of student you must have been. ASUU selfish my foot. TETFund (ETF) was ASUU's idea. Today it is what sustains not just universities but also polytechnics. It is what has allowed the construction of scores of facilities used by students around the country . Non-teaching staff are trained and funded from it. All of these based on the struggle of the same ASUU that twits like you label selfish. What you need to realize is that the baying of people like you is meaningless, apart from being a source of mild annoyance. You can change nothing, froth as you may. Abacha, Babangida, Obasanjo, they all bowed to ASUU. The present government will too, so don't get your bp raised for nothing |
Education / Re: ASUU To Fg: Why Do You Want To Spend Money On IPPIS When UTAS Is Free? by proffemi: 12:03pm On Oct 19, 2020 |
wellmax:That you're still asking this after the information I gave you earlier outs you as sentimental, mischievous, or a slow learner. I tried to politely correct you (no funding == no contributions; good funding == good contributions), but like many Nigerians, you prefer to stick with you unfounded and ignorant take on the issue. Check out all the strike by ASUU, if ALWAYS for selfish purposes. I was in school for 7 years for a 5 year course, without a single carryover. No thanks to ASUU. They are nothing but a selfish union, taking advantage of the government. No be their fault, na the way Nigeria be. Just like you, there are those of us who are working internally against strikes. Our motive may however shock you. The primary reason why ASUU doesn't see eye to eye with the government is the union's stand against high school fees. I have always opined that ASUU has no business keeping fees down. Let's ask for our rights and leave the government to sort out their sources: fees or taxes; wetin concern us? You'll soon get what you want: a world without strikes. I am tired of ignoramuses like you calling people like me selfish for my improperly-remunerated lifetime of service and for fighting the FG to keep education accessible to the underprivileged . The fight must stop. Two possible outcomes: either public universities become useless, neglected shells with all good lecturers moving to private universities that would proliferate, or government jerks up the tuition to sustain the high quality we demand. Neither of those outcomes is bad for ASUU. 1 Like |
Education / Re: ASUU To Fg: Why Do You Want To Spend Money On IPPIS When UTAS Is Free? by proffemi: 11:41am On Oct 19, 2020 |
gbengaeed: Simple. The idea of mainstreaming academics into the civil service goes against the spirit of university autonomy and global best practices. In any case, the post that you quoted wasn't defending either IPPIS or UTAS. If you're clicking the "Quote" button, please reply to something I actually addressed in the post you're quoting. . and bro. after 30 years in a job you should be planing your exit. though you start planning exit from Day 1.[/i]Again, my post says or implies nothing about preparing for retirement. |
Education / Re: ASUU To Fg: Why Do You Want To Spend Money On IPPIS When UTAS Is Free? by proffemi: 11:14am On Oct 19, 2020 |
gbengaeed:People locked in a job paying less than 550k per month after 40 years of arduous mental labor are crooks ? Lol. Bros, fear God. 1 Like |
Education / Re: ASUU To Fg: Why Do You Want To Spend Money On IPPIS When UTAS Is Free? by proffemi: 10:49am On Oct 19, 2020 |
DEADALIVE:Believe me, nobody is stopping you. You are only lucky that the anti-tuition school of thought in ASUU still has the upper hand. I pray you get what you want , and I pray you (and not just your children) partake in it fully. |
Education / Re: ASUU To Fg: Why Do You Want To Spend Money On IPPIS When UTAS Is Free? by proffemi: 10:46am On Oct 19, 2020 |
maasoap: I usually avoid posting about IPPIS because the issue is complicated.| I do want to address the fallacy behind your point above, which is an all too common riposte. The academic-government compact is one that is not defined by the NIGERIAN FG!!! It is governed by global best practices that have been in place for decades. Why should it shock you that ASUU knows more about these best practices than the FG? Yes, an informed employee can educate the employer since the rules are dictated by conventions that are more powerful than this particular employer. Academic staff are not regular civil servants. Why should this be the case in Nigeria? 3 Likes |
Education / Re: ASUU To Fg: Why Do You Want To Spend Money On IPPIS When UTAS Is Free? by proffemi: 10:35am On Oct 19, 2020 |
wellmax: You guys should stop asking this question. It only shows you're oblivious of current affairs. Just the most recent example : https://ace.aau.org/ace-1-centers/acegid/ They (and other Nigerian collaborators) were the first in Africa to sequence the NCOV-SARS2 virus. The same Africa that contains South Africa, home to the continent's best universities! They have also indicated that they are capable of producing a vaccine if properly funded. The lesson for you is this: the Center is funded by the World Bank and not FG. Do you think it is a coincidence that we suddenly start having world-class contributions when adequate funding was provided? Isn't this what ASUU has been singing to people like you and the FG for years? Sidon there dey ask JAMB question. 4 Likes |
Education / Re: ASUU, FG Meeting Inconclusive, Adjourned by proffemi: 8:30am On Oct 16, 2020 |
TGM2015: You are preaching to the choir here. The lecturers are alive to their responsibilities, so I have no idea what gives you the right to spew the implied accusations you started off with. 1 Like |
Education / Re: ASUU, FG Meeting Inconclusive, Adjourned by proffemi: 7:53am On Oct 16, 2020 |
I had to log in to respond because your post just rubs me up the wrong way. TGM2015:What do you mean "push"? You mean as in force government to accept their solutions where appropriate? So now, they must not only teach and do research, but also possess government and force uptake?? Anyway, for any lecturer to be relevant in his or her fields, to get to be recommended for professorship or maintain his/her professorship; they must write for research journals and publications. And the research must make sense, so, those researches you are referring to may not be for the purpose of helping the government but helping themselves to attain and maintained their career.Convenient way to downplay their contributions, right? You mean the research group that was the first in Africa to sequence the SARS-COV2 coronavirus did it just for promotion? Or that the COVID-19 vaccine they are about to start producing (the only one in Africa that I am aware of) is just for them and their grandmothers And again, you are referring to individual ASUU members and not ASUU as a union. Has ASUU as a union proffer solution(s) to any Nigeria problems before? If at all they have, what did they do to make it a reality? At least in the last 10 years, ASUU must have gone on strike for over 3 years accumulatively to get the government dance to their demands on what and how they MUST be paid.I'm sure you know what a trade union is. So I hope you don't have any unrealistic expectations. Now for your information, over the years, ASUU has made immense contributions to the nation. If you aren't too young, then you probably know that ASUU was one of the fiercest voices of opposition to successive military juntas. But closer to their core mandate, ASUU came up with the idea of TETFUND, one of the most innovative funding schemes for education anywhere in the world. TETFUNDis the only reason why the universities are where they are today (they would have entirely collapsed). In fact, the FG now regularly dips into TETFUND to fund all sorts of programmes that have nothing to do with tertiary education. 4 Likes |
Politics / Re: Akeredolu: I Won't Reduce Tuition Fees Of Tertiary Institutions In Ondo by proffemi: 4:07pm On Oct 08, 2020 |
Meto1234:Skul? You tink sey na everibodi here bi ur mate? (hey, just trying to speak your lingo ) Not a student mate. Countless students born after I started lecturing have graduated from the university. |
Politics / Re: Akeredolu: I Won't Reduce Tuition Fees Of Tertiary Institutions In Ondo by proffemi: 12:06pm On Oct 08, 2020 |
DeejaywonDJ1: If you saw the chart I posted, then you know that Nigeria's tax regime can't support free education programmes. But as I said in another post, continue the demand for free tertiary education, you hear? You will soon get it. But when you do, nobody go tell you when you go waka borrow money attend Covenant University. Of course by then, you and the FG would have totally wrecked public tertiary education. All I would have to say then would be "congratulations, you got what you wanted". 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: Akeredolu: I Won't Reduce Tuition Fees Of Tertiary Institutions In Ondo by proffemi: 11:24am On Oct 08, 2020 |
DeejaywonDJ1: Obviously you now see the folly in demanding for "free" education that ends up costing the student his future. Government cannot wait to "develop her citizens" first before charging fairly for education. At least I wouldn't do it, because - going by the posts on this thread alone - the citizens are not ready to be developed. If they were, they'd be willing to swallow some bitter truths. However, our citizens prefer to be hoodwinked. People like that don't have the spine to put in the hard work required to "develop her citizens" (sic). In any case, the clamor for free education is preventing the commencement of the much more important conversation: how do we put scholarships in place to ensure that deserving poor students have access to tertiary education that is priced fairly enough to guarantee some minimum quality? That is an important conversation, but people like you make it impossible to have it cos you muddy the waters with your misguided shouts for free education. 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: Akeredolu: I Won't Reduce Tuition Fees Of Tertiary Institutions In Ondo by proffemi: 10:57am On Oct 08, 2020 |
The problem with most Nigerians and the reason why the ruling class will play them like fiddles forever is that they are always penny wise, pound foolish. The want the verisimilitude of getting their rights, even if they are actually being swindled. The elites know this, so they manipulate them by singing populist songs while mortgaging their futures. Nothing is ever FREE. Not education, not healthcare. Someone is paying for it. In the countries you are comparing yourselves to, they fund thee programs through heavy taxes. Here in Nigeria, you don't want to pay taxes, yet you don't want to pay for education. Everyone (even ASUU sometimes!) seems to assume government will fund everything from oyel money. Never going to happen. So what happens? The elites smirk and make the promise you what you want to hear. Because you do not deserve honest leaders. Consider what happened to secondary education in Nigeria. After so many years of the masses demanding for free secondary education, they now have it. But guess what? Except for a few notable exceptions, "free" secondary education is a sad mistake that I m sure nobody on this thread will go for unless they had no choice. The poor think they have won that battle. The elites simply smirk again as their kids who attended expensive private schools grab all the openings in sight, while the children of the poor suffer for their parents' collective myopia. A friend in one of the best departments in my university recently carried out a survey. He found out that over 90% of students in his department who took the survey were admitted from private (paying) secondary schools. So what happened? The poor got their "free" secondary education, but it is basically useless. Most of them struggle to get into polytechnics. They graduate and then start cursing the FG and creating Nairaland threads about how their education is useless. How won't it be useless? They got the "free" education they wanted. Take it from me, education cannot be "free" and "fit for purpose". You have to choose one. And while you do it, respect the man who has the balls to tell you the truth, because the one who will smirk and lie to you is waiting to destroy your life and those of your children with a useless free product. 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Politics / Re: Akeredolu: I Won't Reduce Tuition Fees Of Tertiary Institutions In Ondo by proffemi: 10:29am On Oct 08, 2020 |
DeejaywonDJ1: Obviously you're the one that's dumb and ignorant. The point is that countries with stronger social policies fund education by spreading the cost through higher taxes. The Nigerian economy is not structured that way, and so we use a model where the cost is borne directly by the student. If you prefer pictures, there's a chart to educate you on Page 3 of this thread. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: Akeredolu: I Won't Reduce Tuition Fees Of Tertiary Institutions In Ondo by proffemi: 10:25am On Oct 08, 2020 |
onecoder: Please don't quote me unless you know what you're talking about. I just posted a chart above that should stop all the ignorant babbling. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Akeredolu: I Won't Reduce Tuition Fees Of Tertiary Institutions In Ondo by proffemi: 10:11am On Oct 08, 2020 |
DeejaywonDJ1: It's the smart ones like you that get themselves and others into trouble. Tertiary education is not free anywhere. Countries with "free" tertiary education fund it from substantially increased taxes. Here's a chart I got from a friend. It doesn't contain your full list of countries, but I'm sure you can complete the chart if you so desire. Summary: for a country with low tax regime like Nigeria, STOP EXPECTING FREE TERTIARY EDUCATION! 4 Likes 1 Share
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Politics / Re: Akeredolu: I Won't Reduce Tuition Fees Of Tertiary Institutions In Ondo by proffemi: 10:00am On Oct 08, 2020 |
onecoder: Actually, *you* are the one conveniently forgetting that citizens pay for the "free" education through heavy taxes. Or perhaps you didn't know? 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Akeredolu: I Won't Reduce Tuition Fees Of Tertiary Institutions In Ondo by proffemi: 9:58am On Oct 08, 2020 |
DeejaywonDJ1:Tertiary education is never free. In the case of Germany, it is funded through a heavy tax regime. 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: Akeredolu: I Won't Reduce Tuition Fees Of Tertiary Institutions In Ondo by proffemi: 9:11am On Oct 08, 2020 |
Johnnyessence: Nigerians like free things, yet they'll be the first to complain about the quality. Free tertiary education? Kwantinue. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Education / Re: October 12 Resumption: We Can’t Work On Empty Stomach, Strike Indefinite – ASUU by proffemi: 6:12pm On Oct 06, 2020 |
Xixtie: Really sad when an ignoramus shouts louder than those trying to inform her. If all you've said about your "dad" are true, then one can conclude that he is one of the rotten eggs giving ASUU a bad name. You've just come here to open his "yansh". You should be ashamed of yourself for the aggressiveness with which you are defending your baseless stance. 2 Likes |
Education / Re: I Graduated With A 2.2, How Do I Become A University Lecturer? by proffemi: 9:54pm On Oct 02, 2020 |
IamDavid: Most posters don't know what they're talking about. It depends on the university, and when (what year) you apply. Some universities (like mine) are returning to a minimum of 2.1 for lecturing jobs. Wouldn't matter if the candidate had higher degrees. Posters mentioning (former) lecturers who graduated with 2.2 or 3 degrees should note that this is just reflective of the rot that has overtaken the system due to anemic funding. 2.1. is generally the minimum requirement for lecturing gigs, and with the NUC increasingly tightening standards, this minimum is likely to become applicable nationwide in the near future. Is it worthwhile to sit for JAMB again and start all afresh? I'm still in my mid twenties and the drive is high. I know I can do it, but is it necessary / worth it?Probably not. If you're dead set that this is what you want, find a university that accepts 2.2. But be warned: you will find yourself competing with 1 and 2.1. students. I've been involved in multiple Selection interviews for my department, and we've always had so many 2.1's that we rarely shortlisted 2.2s even when the university allowed them to apply. Good luck. 2 Likes |
Education / Re: I Regretted Going To University by proffemi: 9:12pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
michkings: NO sir. The goal of university education is not to place a qualified graduate in a better position. It is first and foremost to teach how to think. Secondly, it is to give you sufficient knowledge about a course of study that the graduate can function at a minimum level in a specific discipline. It is the responsibility of the student to find and nurture something of value in themselves which can be amplified by their education. Agreed that some |
Education / Re: I Regretted Going To University by proffemi: 9:00pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
nokia1000: Sorry OP, university education is not a guarantee that you will get a job. Its primary function is to teach you how to think. When you know how to think, have ideas, and apply yourself (both as a student and after), you will make it. If no job offer comes along, such an individual will have something valuable to offer society, which can be the basis of a business. Problem is, many students have ZERO idea what they want to do with their lives and show little interest in finding a unique skill or enterprise to call their own. They float though the university passing whatever course they are required to pass, apparently in the hopes that once they brandish a certificate, there'll be a job waiting somewhere. This is what happens to such individuals. Sorry if I sound harsh, but we need to be honest with ourselves; not just for your sake, but for the sake of current students visiting this thread. 3 Likes |
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