ProudBiafran:

Dumb ass. You have not heard of nano technology.? When we ask you to research, you say no.

Lol. Take it from someone who actually knows something about state-of-the-art nanotechnology: you don't know what you're saying.
But please don't take this as an invitation to argue. I no get that power this morning.
Good morning.

Kobojunkie:

Who said anything about playing God? Why does the idea of de-population scare you so?

Because in their minds it means genocide.

I have stopped bothering to respond to most of these conspiracy theorists. I read the posts, gnash my teeth, and move on.
I do worry that the surfeit of information today has made people dumber instead of smarter. The most alarming part is that it appears to be a global phenomenon.

ottalo:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/covid-19-kano-in-trouble-says-ganduje/%3famp=1

The man must be a fool.
How can testing be the problem? Its like a wayward girl blaming shortage of test kits for her undetected pregnancy.
It's your ineptitude that caused the problem.
All testing would have done was to reveal your folly faster.

sparkyJ:

I want to apologise for making recommendations. I actually listed some symptoms for comparism. So that Op can be sure if its the same. Vaginal yeast infection is caused by Candida.

I won't accept your apology, but that's only because you don't owe me one. Maybe Op, but I'm sure he himself would gladly wave away any apologies. Thank you for your explanation though. It's always a pleasure to encounter people capable of saying "I was wrong". Sounds like such a small thing, but says a lot about an individual.

All the best SparkyJ!

MannyE:
Hello house, this is my very first post here and I need your advice medically (to the experts and anyone with a similar experience previously). My wife woke up last night and rushed to the restroom to pee, and since then she's been frequenting there. This is her first experience of this kind and it's quite disturbing how this is turning out. The lockdown exercise is limiting our movement and which hospital one can even go. Please, experts in the house, I would appreciate your say and advice. Thanks.

Good Lord!
I don't know what is wrong with your wife, but I know you should be extremely careful resorting to a forum like this for medical advice.
Someone actually diagnosed candidiasis from just frequent peeing! I can only hope you are not the one dashing them likes, because they are about to get you and your wife in big trouble, especially since they are now prescribing Ciprotab(!!) to treat it.

Do yourself a favor, google up candidiasis and Ciprotab, then do a better job of getting competent medical opinion.

Match never finish, you dey award trophy
Let's wait to get out of this mess first, aight?

Gjrich:

RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WRONG IS WRONG.

Why doesn’t the world praise Africa fighting the coronavirus?

Africa always gets the blame for everything wrong, I think many Africans and other people around the world know that and many accept that.

Let’s look at the African statistics on Coronavirus death rates and compare them to the rest of the world and you will see that the fear people (especially Chinese) have of Africans are totally unfounded.

I am starting with the world’s average and after that worst death rates per country, (death rates caused by the Coronavirus, total affected rounded up, actual deaths):

6.64% death rate: Worldwide confirmed cases: 2,064,700, deaths 137,108

16.58% France: 106,200, deaths 17,617

13.11% Italy: 165,100, deaths 21,645

13.06% United Kingdom: 98,500, deaths 12,868

10.41% Spain: 180,600, deaths 18,812

6.09% Brazil: 28,900, deaths 1,760

4.43% United States: 644,300, deaths 28,554

4.06% China: 82,300, deaths 3,342

3.56% Canada: 28,300, deaths 1,010

2.82% Germany: 134,700, deaths 3,804

2.15% South Korea: 10,613, deaths 229

Whilst the world is praising South Korea’s and Germany’s successful “attack” and control of the Coronavirus nobody bothers to look how Africa is doing?

5.38% Africa: 16,200, deaths 873

1.96% Sub-Saharan Africa: 8,100 deaths 159

4.44% Kenya: 225, deaths 10

3.52% Ethiopia: 85, deaths 3

2.94% Nigeria: 523, deaths 19

1.35% South Africa: 2,506, deaths 34

1.25% Ghana: 641, deaths 8

0.91% Ivory Coast: 654, deaths 6

0.63% Senegal: 314, deaths 2

Kenia, Ethiopia and some other countries are within the average ranges of Coronavirus in the rest of the world compared to outbreak and control figures.

But Ivory Coast, South Africa, my beloved Ghana and Senegal are doing far better than the all over-praised South Korea and Germany.

Our North African brothers are already doing far better than France, Italy and Spain, but are pushing the ones average African death rates up.

Sub-Saharan Africa, yes:

Black Africa is doing a fantastic job controlling the outbreak! 1.96% death rate: Just take a look at the figures again.

6.64% World: 2,064,700, deaths 137,108

5.38% Africa: 16,200, deaths 873

1.96% Sub-Saharan Africa: 8,100 deaths 159

And all we hear around the world are demagogic statements about how Africa will be the next Coronavirus hell on earth, how Africa doesn’t have the financial and medical capabilities to control the outbreak, how Africans are spreading the virus and why we have to start testing Coronavirus vaccines on Africans first.

Why are people hiding the facts that, obviously this virus doesn’t survive high temperatures and high humidity well?

Why doesn’t anybody tell the world that Africans are because of their lifestyle and constant exposure to other diseases very strong, healthy people?

Why doesn’t anybody tell the world that always avoiding any exposure to Malaria, Typhoid, Flu, Salmonella and many other things have made the people in developed world the weakest people on earth?

Already, Sub-Saharan Africa is doing great. But just imagine if we could test every sub-Saharan African? That would even put our already good figures (although there is no good in these deaths) much further down.

So why is Africa, even during a dark outbreak of a pandemic, still branded as the world’s shithole (not my words but those of a certain American president) whilst we are doing far better than the rest of the world ?

bigtt76:
So this means Coronavirus had been with us since January 2020 or what?

I don't know if coro has been with us since January, but this guy very likely caught his coro right here in Lagos.

The disease runs its course over a few weeks, so it's unlikely he just died from an infection which he imported in January. Well, I suppose it's possible that he battled with complications from imported coro for close to three months, but then, I'm not sure we cay say coro killed him...

pmoye:
This is a very interesting question indeed, one that I have given extensive thoughts for some years now.

As a scientist I am not meant to believe in things that cannot be observed directly or indirectly. But as a scientist also I am trained never to doubt the existence or possibility of something just because it cannot be observed. I believe that with advancement in scientific innovation many of the things that we cannot yet 'see' shall become visible. A case in point is the existence of microorganisms which before the 17th century discovery of microscope by Antonie van Leeuwenhoek would have been a ridiculous concept for most people to believe. But now, we do not only 'see' erstwhile invisible microorganisms we can also clearly see subcellular dimensions even up to atomic resolution using spectroscopic and spectrometric techniques.

In the case of dogs, they do not see the full visible color spectrum as do humans. That is perhaps an indication that their sight overlaps with areas of the electromagnetic spectrum that human eyes cannot see. Let me quickly establish this: humans' retina (and ocular system) generally can only see photons whose amplitude and wavelength coincide with the tiny visible part of the electromagnetic spectrum while other parts ranging from the small-wavelength gamma rays to the large wavelength radiowaves can not be detected by the human eye. If then an entity (matter/wave) exists outside of the visible part of the spectrum, then human eye can not perceive it. This however does not mean that entity does not exist. Using the same example, the geometric dimension of unicellular organisms falls outside of the visible spectrum, so we don't see them unless we use aids (microscopes) to magnify them to the point that they can be seen. This also means that it is possible (not impossible) that other organisms (e.g. dog) can see outside of our own visible spectrum making the possibility that they see what to us is invisible, tenable. I firmly believe that at the very zenith of scientific development humans will be able to invent means of seen greater parts of the electromagnetic spectrum and then we might just be able to concretely see the existence of entities that religion and philosophy have labeled spirits.

Cheers.

I like you. A true scientist should never say "never".

But there is another important applicable scientific precept: Occam's Razor. No need to look for an extraordinary explanation for something if a satisfactory simpler explanation exists. Unfortunately for the African in us, , there is a simpler explanation this time.

And to sort of echo you (as well as show that I do believe in extraordinary ideas): in time, we WILL indeed see more than we do now. I believe in the existence of extra dimensions (although not in the normal spirituo-metaphysical sense!).

Daum:
...
Later she stopped but she lied down there. Less than 10 minutes again she stood up like she heard something and started backing again, this time we were concerned, we pointed our torch light at the direction but we couldn't see anything, it was then the old man told us to relax, that the dog knows why it is barking. She probably had seen an evil spirit or witch and as long as she keeps barking, the spirit can't come close.

...

No, dogs don't.

But they can see and hear things you cannot. Unfortunately, the reason is nowhere near as exciting as you'd hope. You see, their eyes are sensitive to portions of the electromagnetic spectrum that ours are not, and their ears can perceive up to 3 times the highest frequencies humans can. It's simple, boring biology.

factormatt6:
. Maybe you are benefiting from the loot hence you are blind to see the truth. I am exposing government inadequacy, lies and ineffectiveness.

Okay o. Redouble your efforts.

factormatt6:
. You clearly didn't want to you that there is ineffectiveness in the system. So many lies we have been told. Call black black don't look the other way.

Yes, I always call black black.
When NCDC mess up, I call "black".
But right now, people like you are also clogging their bandwidth, thereby compounding the problem you think you are exposing. So, yeah, I call "black".

factormatt6:
I never trust the system hence I needed to be sure they are what they claim to be. Quick response my ass

NCDC may have their issues, but you do realize that people crying wolf like you are part of the problem, don't you?
I heard an unsubstantiated report that well over 50 % of calls and messages to NCDC are spam calls or people "trying to sure they are what they claim".
Please leave them alone, let them do their work to the extent possible.

Bevista:
Very funny. The bolded statement might be true...but to what end? A good example is the huge funds big pharma pump to developing countries in the guise of health NGOs. Do you know what that's all about? It's no fvckin aid, it's part of their cost in testing out their drugs before they submit them to the FDA.

Africa is being used as Guinea pigs but because the budget is so immense, all government officials and country directors who enjoy huge financial benefits from these programs just turn a blind eye. Go read about how India kicked Bill Gates out after it was discovered that his polio vaccines were causing infertility in women. And yes, that Tedross slowpoke who heads the World Health Organization is a bloody Bill Gates stooge. Bill is the highest funder of the WHO after the US.

Look at the Twitter video below and it will tell you a lot about the motives of that Eugenist. You can also click the link below to read about how the slowpoke intends to chip the entire freaking world hiding under vaccinations. You lot need to wake up and stop listening only to mainstream authorities and media. The entire system is rigged.

https://twitter.com/JewelzJonez/status/1246884946880405506?s=20

https://www.biometricupdate.com/201909/id2020-and-partners-launch-program-to-provide-digital-id-with-vaccines

You may not know (but I do) how much of their funding is no-strings-attached.
And where is the evidence you have of their eugenic agenda? You think a few twitter threads and a random website are sufficient to impeach years of public, proven service?

Haaaaaaa. You Africans are an ungrateful lot.

Edit: I have nothing more to say on this subject.

Staro:



Lol ... Some of you are too dumb and ignorant.

This woman with her husband singlehandedly got rid of Polio in Nigeria.
You ungrateful lot feels it's not enough, you're asking for a hospital.

Nonsense !

Don't mind ignorant and superstitious Nigerians o. While they were doing whatever it is Nigerian youths do, Melinda and her husband pumped in millions dollars of their money to do something the entire Nigerian government couldn't. All she's done is to sound a note of warning based on trends. She's not saying it WILL happen. She's saying it's a real possibility based on what she knows about our healthcare system.

On cue, the ignoramuses who know jack-shit about the healthcare system have emerged howling from the woodwork, defending the integrity of their fatherland. Pathetic.

canDy4eva:


Abi o...
Forgive me

Just having a little fun at your expense. It was obviously an auto-correct typo.

onoja12:
What trash work,in which health sector,please name one hospital they built in Africa or one clinic.they have been here pumping vaccination to kill the population and stop birth.

Slaves like you need to be given there vacines more,so they can help you and your family as for the rest of us,we do not wish to see any of the gates in Africa ever again.by the way it is now public knowledge that none of the gates children were ever vacinated. that tell you all you need to know

If you don't know, ask.
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has pumped millions of dollars into healthcare research and capacity building in Nigeria.
AFAIK, they have done far more for healthcare in Nigeria than any other couple of individuals, bar none.

canDy4eva:
RIGHTEOUSNESS EXHAUSTS A NATION

Confucius could not have said it better ma'am

Acmepreneur:

What about me that had similar experience in 2017. I almost died as the cough wan kill me. Naturally, Cough isn't my disease, but this one came with a fever and lasted for up to 1month. Even my neighbours con dey ask me wetin happen. I'm introvert,live alone, no friends and I don't mix, i cover very well when im coughing outside, so no one contracted it or I didn't see anyone else with it.
I used cough drug, but when it didn't work, I neglected it, since I had loads of assignment to do, I just told the cough say if u like make you kill me, I go do this assignment. It went by itself.
Then another bad experience in 2019, I began to wonder why I kept having this cattarh, maybe it's a flu (never knew flu dey Nigeria before this time as we often call everything cattarh) was there wasn't any cough. It was becoming incessant, so I started taking Vitamin C, and it stopped. When I don't have Vc, I take guava leaves, boil and drink the water
Does it mean it was covid17?

Lol. I no know which year of release your own COVID be o.

Seriously, OP's symptoms sound suspiciously like COVID. Not just the cough alone; not just the fever alone...its about how both started and fed off each other. Plus the entire course of the infection makes it sound like COVID. But he was also smart enough not to say with any certainty that it was COVID. Your own meanwhile sounds like a nasty infection, but them never been release COVID that time

AFOLSNETWORKS:

...Kindly note I cannot categorically say what we had was COVID-19 because no such investigation was carried out on any of us. The result of the doctor retuned NEGATIVE FOR LASSA FEVER VIRUS and no other viral test was conducted. When Nigeria had the index case for COVID-19, I called NCDC to know if I could get an antibody test but was told they were currently only conducting antigen test for people who show symptoms for COVID-19.

The essence of this write up is to know you can beat a viral infection. Viral infection is not a death sentence but shouldn’t be allowed to progress. Full recovery is also possible if prompt and proper measures are taken.

Stay Safe, Healthy & Secured!

Waoh.

As far as I'm concerned, you just provided the first evidence of something many of us suspect: that COVID-19 is out there in Naija. I really, really hope you get the antibody test done (so you can confirm).

But before then, congrats on dodging a real bullet. And your wife sounds like a real MVP. Kudos to her.

lamzybaby:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF3UbBer0Mw
https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/breaking-coronavirus-15-chinese-doctors-arrive-in-nigeria/%3famp=1

Why are they standing like servicemen?
Just wondering...

0m0nnakoda:


You cannot comprehend simple English
First the remark was not directed at you
The question I asked was not about "normal" age but normal child
Stop constituting a nuisance
You claim to be a Lecturer and cannot comprehend simple English

Pedantic dunce.

How do you arrive at 11 ? What is " normal"?

Were you in fact asking about about how he arrived at 11 or not?

I wonder where a retard like you got the guts to jump in my mentions accusing me of irrational, non-evidence based thinking when I never invited your opinion?

0m0nnakoda:


The first point on curriculum is irrelevant and tangential

How do you arrive at 11 ? What is " normal"?

Who is normal? What does that mean?
Is it normal to score 310 in JAMB?

This man. I thought you had been educated on this topic, but obviously, I was wrong, if you are still asking what constitutes "normal" age for primary 6 equivalents.

The World Bank link I sent you shows that the mean age of commencement of elementary school globally is approximately 6 years.
Or are you disputing that fact?

If the mean is 6 and primary school takes 6 years, I hope you can do the simple arithmetic? Normal is in the 11 - 12 range. Unless you know more than generations of educationists around the world!

Hope you have your answer now, or do you just like arguing?

0m0nnakoda:

I don't believe you are Lecturer ,whether roasted or half roasted

Too bad for you. I am, and if I say so myself*, I am a pretty decent one.
I think we can go our different ways now. You are off your high horse. You have been educated. All that's left is for you to lash out. I won't be here for that.



* I know the sort of pedantic sort I am dealing with here, so let me make it clear: I'm not just saying so myself. I have student feedback and even the odd international award to back it up!

0m0nnakoda:

You claim to be a Lecturer but cannot reason
You want us to believe we will fix the problem of half baked graduates with this measure My point is is there any evidence to support the imposition of age 12 as the best age to get into secondary why not 10 or 11

You say "why not 10 or 11", but you refused to complete the assignment I gave you. If you did, you would find out that the mean age in developed countries + 6 years of primary school is close to 12 years.

You are trying to tell us there is research. I brought in the UK example to show you that 11 is just as fine .

I never said 11 is not fine. Your beef all along has never been on whether 11 or 12 is better. Please re-read you history if you've forgotten.

0m0nnakoda:

Quick search ?you are interesting

If you scroll up this thread you will see it has already been mentioned by another person I spoke with that people leave school at 16 in the UK before going to College ( A levels).
I also,mentioned that Obasanjo changed that system which we inherited from the British in 1976
Do not be petty, it is ugly

You are the one that talked about research my question is there research recommending this age of 12 ? why not 10 11 or 14?

You accuse me of being petty, but you started by jumping into my mentions accusing me of fallacy, and implying that I am a half-baked lecturer?!
Them are fightin' words pardner! Okay, we're not fighting, but I hope you catch the drift?

0m0nnakoda:

Quick search ?you are interesting

If you scroll up this thread you will see it has already been mentioned by another person I spoke with that people leave school at 16 in the UK before going to College ( A levels).
I also,mentioned that Obasanjo changed that system which we inherited from the British in 1976
Do not be petty, it is ugly

You are the one that talked about research my question is there research recommending this age of 12 ? why not 10 11 or 14?

Check my most recent post.

I wasn't being petty. I just dislike know-it-alls, especially those who actually do not know what they are talking about. Sorry, it's not personal.

0m0nnakoda:

Mr Lecturer spare us the verbose bombast and address the specific issue of 12 years
In the UK the age is 11 have they gone astray?

Ogbeni, please visit this page: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/se.prm.ages
I'm sure you can calculate the mean age yourself.
Since you need education in this area, I suggest you not just use the UK figure, but extract the ages for all developed nations.
Tell me if the mean+6 ends up closer to 11 years or 12 years.

Are you happy (and properly educated) now?

0m0nnakoda:

Mr Lecturer spare us the verbose bombast and address the specific issue of 12 years
In the UK the age is 11 have they gone astray?

Ah, I see. Now that I have ripped you and the uninformed high horse you were riding (shushing some who told you he was a trained educator), you think I am bombastic.

Now that you have done a quick Google search, your problem is now the +1 year difference from UK?

Are you even serious?

0m0nnakoda:

After all that dissertation you did not address whether there is evidence that changing secondary school admission age to 12 will fix the problem and what evidence there is for that
You contradict yourself

Was it that same matured design that is producing the half baked graduates you were lamenting about? D

What do you mean by contradicting myself? The evidence we need exists in DOZENS, if not scores of studies that show that learning outcomes are better when learning takes cognizance of all aspects of personality development. I do not even have a single reference to give you because this is an established fact in the discipline!

You mentioned international best practices.

Do you have the tiniest glimmer of an idea what international best practices are in this area?
And yet, you want your opinion to override decades of cognitive and educational psychology research Do you see why I think you are an ITK?

bukatyne:


Is this a joke?

When there will be rich kids everywhere to fill the slot.

Just sit and look.

No, it is not a joke. Lagos is just correcting a serious error in the system. Things will also tighten up nationally, and the Industry will indeed adjust to the new normal.

0m0nnakoda:


Fallacious argument

"As a university teacher "

If indeed you are what you claim you would recognise the fallacious and unscientific nature of such an argument.
That is just like saying

As a Nigerian ...... I know the problem and solution to Nigeria's problems

There are as many opinions as there are Lecturers

Maybe the problem is half baked Lecturers and not kids being rushed. Who knows

Without evidence that is just speculation.
I thought the university system encourages rational evidence based thinking

Is this 12yr old limit the solution to the problem you describe?
Evidence?
International practice?

Lol. I have been watching your comments, but decided to ignore you.

Educational systems are not designed based on the opinions and intuitions of individuals. Cognitive and educational psychology are serious, matured disciplines. It may interest you to know that my opinions are not just based on subjective personal experience, but on years of training and research related to cognitive/educational psychology.

Edit: by the way, yes, the problem of half-baked graduates may also be due to half-baked lecturers, just as it is CERTAINLY partly due to students who form ITK where they would have been better served learning from, and listening to experts. Like you.

shekhaz:
This is a welcome development but it needs to get to employers of labour as well. They only recruit young graduate of 21. How can a child finish secondary school at age 18 and complete higher education in 3 years?
I am happy with what Lagos state has decided but 11 years is better. The private schools are the main source of this problem. I work in a school where a boy of 8 was admitted into jss1 just because his father can afford to pay the school fees.
My only problem with this directive is how will they enforce compliance? Parents threaten withdrawal in school and force school owners to admit toddlers to secondary school.
There was even a mother that told me upfront that her daughter must leave primary school at age 9. She can't afford to be spending so much tuition in primary school. Then again, the federal government needs to join this to make it work. A parent can easily take their child to Ogun state for admission or any other state. It should be enforced by the federal ministry of education

The employers of labour will adjust to the new normal.